From K4mccall at outlook.com Sun Aug 1 05:48:47 2021 From: K4mccall at outlook.com (Karen McCall) Date: Sun Aug 1 05:48:52 2021 Subject: [Athen] [WebAIM] Acrobat Reader X Portfolio Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK, on a "hunch" I copied the PDF Portfolio from the SD card to an external hard drive It opens no problem. So apparently you can archive PDF content, especially portfolios, but they can't be archived on SD cards or CD's and have to be archived on internal or external hard drives. Sigh. Thanks to everyone who responded. I hadn't tried this before because I haven't had any problems opening PDF content, including portfolios, from storage devices like SD cards. Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of L Snider Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 1:30 PM To: WebAIM Discussion List Cc: ATHEN Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Acrobat Reader X Portfolio Problem Hi Karen, I have Acrobat Pro XI on one of my training computers. If you can't fix it otherwise, let me know and I am happy to help. I believe XI was okay, but I think X was taken out of the list of stuff they open a while back (just my experience). Cheers Lisa On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 6:04 PM Karen McCall wrote: > I have 2 PDF portfolios that were created against my better judgement > in Acrobat 10. > > I can't open either of them in Acrobat Pro DC. I get a message saying > I can only open them in Reader X. > > Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Adobe Reader X? > > Or, does anyone know how to open a PDF portfolio created inX in Pro DC. > I've even tried opening it in other apps. > > There is no help of the Internet that I can find. > > ...I can't find a setting in Pro DC to allow me to open X files. > > Cheers, Karen > > Get Outlook for > iOS ka.ms%2Fo0ukef&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cceeacbcf52ed443be09c08d95448de37% > 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637633494221347830%7CUnkn > own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi > LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=FnbudwxLmvynRgK4LUcL0IKaBX6%2FZKIz%2Bo > %2FRnX5s6Kw%3D&reserved=0> > _______________________________________________ > To manage your subscription, visit > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist.w > ebaim.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cceeacbcf52ed443be09c08d95448de37%7C > 84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637633494221347830%7CUnknow > n%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLC > JXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=25TsuEB5W2x1bUnFiLJgLIQrz7MHraAUDFn9fGd% > 2BfF0%3D&reserved=0 List archives at > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebaim > .org%2Fdiscussion%2Farchives&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cceeacbcf52ed443be09 > c08d95448de37%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63763349422 > 1347830%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLC > JBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=fqjc5tMSNuaF%2BJDcTyF7%2 > B9rtIYns%2BOaly1DNnRv1Ao4%3D&reserved=0 > Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org > _______________________________________________ To manage your subscription, visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist.webaim.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cceeacbcf52ed443be09c08d95448de37%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637633494221347830%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=25TsuEB5W2x1bUnFiLJgLIQrz7MHraAUDFn9fGd%2BfF0%3D&reserved=0 List archives at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebaim.org%2Fdiscussion%2Farchives&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cceeacbcf52ed443be09c08d95448de37%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637633494221347830%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=fqjc5tMSNuaF%2BJDcTyF7%2B9rtIYns%2BOaly1DNnRv1Ao4%3D&reserved=0 Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org From lsnider at gmail.com Sun Aug 1 06:29:30 2021 From: lsnider at gmail.com (L Snider) Date: Sun Aug 1 06:30:14 2021 Subject: [Athen] [WebAIM] Acrobat Reader X Portfolio Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Karen, that is so weird! Thanks for sharing! Cheers Lisa On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 9:48 AM Karen McCall wrote: > OK, on a "hunch" I copied the PDF Portfolio from the SD card to an > external hard drive It opens no problem. So apparently you can archive PDF > content, especially portfolios, but they can't be archived on SD cards or > CD's and have to be archived on internal or external hard drives. > > Sigh. > > Thanks to everyone who responded. I hadn't tried this before because I > haven't had any problems opening PDF content, including portfolios, from > storage devices like SD cards. > > Cheers, Karen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of L > Snider > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 1:30 PM > To: WebAIM Discussion List > Cc: ATHEN > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Acrobat Reader X Portfolio Problem > > Hi Karen, > > I have Acrobat Pro XI on one of my training computers. If you can't fix it > otherwise, let me know and I am happy to help. I believe XI was okay, but I > think X was taken out of the list of stuff they open a while back (just my > experience). > > Cheers > > Lisa > > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 6:04 PM Karen McCall wrote: > > > I have 2 PDF portfolios that were created against my better judgement > > in Acrobat 10. > > > > I can't open either of them in Acrobat Pro DC. I get a message saying > > I can only open them in Reader X. > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Adobe Reader X? > > > > Or, does anyone know how to open a PDF portfolio created inX in Pro DC. > > I've even tried opening it in other apps. > > > > There is no help of the Internet that I can find. > > > > ...I can't find a setting in Pro DC to allow me to open X files. > > > > Cheers, Karen > > > > Get Outlook for > > iOS > ka.ms%2Fo0ukef&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cceeacbcf52ed443be09c08d95448de37% > > 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637633494221347830%7CUnkn > > own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi > > LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=FnbudwxLmvynRgK4LUcL0IKaBX6%2FZKIz%2Bo > > %2FRnX5s6Kw%3D&reserved=0> > > _______________________________________________ > > To manage your subscription, visit > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist.w > > ebaim.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cceeacbcf52ed443be09c08d95448de37%7C > > 84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637633494221347830%7CUnknow > > n%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLC > > JXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=25TsuEB5W2x1bUnFiLJgLIQrz7MHraAUDFn9fGd% > > 2BfF0%3D&reserved=0 List archives at > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebaim > > .org%2Fdiscussion%2Farchives&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cceeacbcf52ed443be09 > > c08d95448de37%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63763349422 > > 1347830%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLC > > JBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=fqjc5tMSNuaF%2BJDcTyF7%2 > > B9rtIYns%2BOaly1DNnRv1Ao4%3D&reserved=0 > > Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org > > > _______________________________________________ > To manage your subscription, visit > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist.webaim.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cceeacbcf52ed443be09c08d95448de37%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637633494221347830%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=25TsuEB5W2x1bUnFiLJgLIQrz7MHraAUDFn9fGd%2BfF0%3D&reserved=0 > List archives at > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebaim.org%2Fdiscussion%2Farchives&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cceeacbcf52ed443be09c08d95448de37%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637633494221347830%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=fqjc5tMSNuaF%2BJDcTyF7%2B9rtIYns%2BOaly1DNnRv1Ao4%3D&reserved=0 > Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org > _______________________________________________ > To manage your subscription, visit http://list.webaim.org/ > List archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives > Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From justinr at disability.tamu.edu Mon Aug 2 08:53:19 2021 From: justinr at disability.tamu.edu (Romack, Justin) Date: Mon Aug 2 08:53:44 2021 Subject: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9e9d918ddd8f4979a4bd5808f8b6a8da@disability.tamu.edu> Howdy Keith! Yes, we've hit the same wall with the older model of the Echo. I have a couple of newer Livescribe models (a couple of Livescribe 3's and an Aegir), but I'm on the fence as to whether or not we'll double down on these models. I have several reservations of models other than the Echo... most notably the necessity of pairing an external device to get audio recording and the fact you can't physically tap the notes with the pen to start playback of audio (though I realize you can do this by using the notes synced in the app.) I'm holding out to see what Livescribe does with an updated Echo. It baffles my mind a company with such a great product could be so out of touch and slow to respond to a market like ours, but another topic for a different thread. As for notetaking apps: I recommend OneNote in many situations. It's easy to use, we have Microsoft365 access for our campus and it's cross-platform. We piloted Glean last year and, while I know it's changed some, I still don't see Glean's value over other options on the market. Students weren't raving when we discontinued our pilot either, so I let their opinion validate my own. :) I'm still convinced that, in many cases, a good ol' fashioned digital voice recorder with a visible timestamp beats many high-tech notetaking solutions. I really avoid encouraging students use typed notes with OneNote unless they're already typing notes.. as I value the learning potential afforded to most student who take handwritten notes. Glad you asked this question! Our Livescribe journey has been on my mind this apst week. Be well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Keith Kolander Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 1:50 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens Hi, The Livescribe Echo pens have been popular, and still are, despite being discontinued. Remaining ones are hard to find, and have more than doubled in price. Even the notebooks have jumped in price quite a bit. Are you using any alternatives at the moment, or laying low and waiting for the Echo 2 to come out? Also, if any of your students are using notetaking apps, are there any that they seem to prefer using? Thanks, Keith Keith Kolander Adaptive Technology Specialist St. Charles Community College Cottleville, MO 63376 kkolander@stchas.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Robin.Eckelberry at ppcc.edu Mon Aug 2 08:59:58 2021 From: Robin.Eckelberry at ppcc.edu (Eckelberry, Robin) Date: Mon Aug 2 09:00:28 2021 Subject: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens In-Reply-To: <9e9d918ddd8f4979a4bd5808f8b6a8da@disability.tamu.edu> References: <9e9d918ddd8f4979a4bd5808f8b6a8da@disability.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <999cec8c497043039f92c34c01289a00@ppcc.edu> Hi all, Another option for handwritten notes with synchronized recordings is AudioNote for iOS. or AudioNote for Android There is also an updated AudioNote2 Students would probably need to have a tablet with a stylus, though. Sincerely, Robin From: athen-list On Behalf Of Romack, Justin Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:53 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Howdy Keith! Yes, we've hit the same wall with the older model of the Echo. I have a couple of newer Livescribe models (a couple of Livescribe 3's and an Aegir), but I'm on the fence as to whether or not we'll double down on these models. I have several reservations of models other than the Echo... most notably the necessity of pairing an external device to get audio recording and the fact you can't physically tap the notes with the pen to start playback of audio (though I realize you can do this by using the notes synced in the app.) I'm holding out to see what Livescribe does with an updated Echo. It baffles my mind a company with such a great product could be so out of touch and slow to respond to a market like ours, but another topic for a different thread. As for notetaking apps: I recommend OneNote in many situations. It's easy to use, we have Microsoft365 access for our campus and it's cross-platform. We piloted Glean last year and, while I know it's changed some, I still don't see Glean's value over other options on the market. Students weren't raving when we discontinued our pilot either, so I let their opinion validate my own. :) I'm still convinced that, in many cases, a good ol' fashioned digital voice recorder with a visible timestamp beats many high-tech notetaking solutions. I really avoid encouraging students use typed notes with OneNote unless they're already typing notes.. as I value the learning potential afforded to most student who take handwritten notes. Glad you asked this question! Our Livescribe journey has been on my mind this apst week. Be well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Keith Kolander Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 1:50 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens Hi, The Livescribe Echo pens have been popular, and still are, despite being discontinued. Remaining ones are hard to find, and have more than doubled in price. Even the notebooks have jumped in price quite a bit. Are you using any alternatives at the moment, or laying low and waiting for the Echo 2 to come out? Also, if any of your students are using notetaking apps, are there any that they seem to prefer using? Thanks, Keith Keith Kolander Adaptive Technology Specialist St. Charles Community College Cottleville, MO 63376 kkolander@stchas.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ecmatson at uidaho.edu Mon Aug 2 10:29:57 2021 From: ecmatson at uidaho.edu (Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu)) Date: Mon Aug 2 10:30:05 2021 Subject: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens In-Reply-To: <999cec8c497043039f92c34c01289a00@ppcc.edu> References: <9e9d918ddd8f4979a4bd5808f8b6a8da@disability.tamu.edu> <999cec8c497043039f92c34c01289a00@ppcc.edu> Message-ID: Tablets have come down in price to the point where they aren't too much more than the Echos. Anyone trying a tablet and stylus this fall as a replacement to get that tactile feel of writing notes? I definitely have reservations about doing that, but still might be an option. Last I checked, OneNote on Android could sync typed notes with audio, but couldn't record while writing with a stylus, but that's been a couple years ago. Anyone know if Microsoft found a way to make recording audio and using a stylus work together? We're going to offer Sonocent again this fall, but the I'm with Justin in that I didn't get anyone begging to have Glean back. With their pricing model there I can't see using it over OneNote which we have access to as part of our Microsoft contract. As for pairing with phones to record on the Symphony / Aegir / LiveScribe 3 models, again I agree with Justin that I don't like it. However my younger students are more and more using their phone for everything and seem to be loving the Symphony models. I definitely have a group that the Bluetooth pairing and phone out is too much, so hoping my stock of Echo's gets them to graduation or LiveScribe releases an updated model soon. It's August 2nd! Good luck with fall startup everyone! Eric Matson | Assistive Technology Specialist Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 Pronouns: He / Him / His This communication may contain privileged, non-public or other confidential information. If you have received it in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and immediately delete the message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the contents. Thank you. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Eckelberry, Robin Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:00 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens Hi all, Another option for handwritten notes with synchronized recordings is AudioNote for iOS. or AudioNote for Android There is also an updated AudioNote2 Students would probably need to have a tablet with a stylus, though. Sincerely, Robin From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Romack, Justin Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:53 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Howdy Keith! Yes, we've hit the same wall with the older model of the Echo. I have a couple of newer Livescribe models (a couple of Livescribe 3's and an Aegir), but I'm on the fence as to whether or not we'll double down on these models. I have several reservations of models other than the Echo... most notably the necessity of pairing an external device to get audio recording and the fact you can't physically tap the notes with the pen to start playback of audio (though I realize you can do this by using the notes synced in the app.) I'm holding out to see what Livescribe does with an updated Echo. It baffles my mind a company with such a great product could be so out of touch and slow to respond to a market like ours, but another topic for a different thread. As for notetaking apps: I recommend OneNote in many situations. It's easy to use, we have Microsoft365 access for our campus and it's cross-platform. We piloted Glean last year and, while I know it's changed some, I still don't see Glean's value over other options on the market. Students weren't raving when we discontinued our pilot either, so I let their opinion validate my own. :) I'm still convinced that, in many cases, a good ol' fashioned digital voice recorder with a visible timestamp beats many high-tech notetaking solutions. I really avoid encouraging students use typed notes with OneNote unless they're already typing notes.. as I value the learning potential afforded to most student who take handwritten notes. Glad you asked this question! Our Livescribe journey has been on my mind this apst week. Be well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Keith Kolander Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 1:50 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens Hi, The Livescribe Echo pens have been popular, and still are, despite being discontinued. Remaining ones are hard to find, and have more than doubled in price. Even the notebooks have jumped in price quite a bit. Are you using any alternatives at the moment, or laying low and waiting for the Echo 2 to come out? Also, if any of your students are using notetaking apps, are there any that they seem to prefer using? Thanks, Keith Keith Kolander Adaptive Technology Specialist St. Charles Community College Cottleville, MO 63376 kkolander@stchas.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Robin.Eckelberry at ppcc.edu Mon Aug 2 11:28:58 2021 From: Robin.Eckelberry at ppcc.edu (Eckelberry, Robin) Date: Mon Aug 2 11:29:35 2021 Subject: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens In-Reply-To: References: <9e9d918ddd8f4979a4bd5808f8b6a8da@disability.tamu.edu> <999cec8c497043039f92c34c01289a00@ppcc.edu> Message-ID: <3d1be331e2244466aa412722e7936bb0@ppcc.edu> Hi Eric, OneNote on iPad was the last I checked (last week), and when recording audio, it still blocks the ability to do any notetaking (typed, drawn, handwritten, etc.), which I find very odd. I had a student using a Surface Pro and handwriting in OneNote, with recording, for math, specifically. The Surface Pro ran the desktop version of OneNote, so simultaneous recording and notetaking was possible. I have not had any luck using the Livescribe+ app. On an older iPad (version 9), it downloads but does not launch. On a newer iPad (version 14), it will not even download. So, right now, I am not able to even demo my Livescribe3 pen to show students how the Symphony (or limited, which is the only in stock) would work. I am not sure what the trick is to getting the app to work! It was never a problem before. Sincerely, Robin From: athen-list On Behalf Of Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 11:30 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Tablets have come down in price to the point where they aren't too much more than the Echos. Anyone trying a tablet and stylus this fall as a replacement to get that tactile feel of writing notes? I definitely have reservations about doing that, but still might be an option. Last I checked, OneNote on Android could sync typed notes with audio, but couldn't record while writing with a stylus, but that's been a couple years ago. Anyone know if Microsoft found a way to make recording audio and using a stylus work together? We're going to offer Sonocent again this fall, but the I'm with Justin in that I didn't get anyone begging to have Glean back. With their pricing model there I can't see using it over OneNote which we have access to as part of our Microsoft contract. As for pairing with phones to record on the Symphony / Aegir / LiveScribe 3 models, again I agree with Justin that I don't like it. However my younger students are more and more using their phone for everything and seem to be loving the Symphony models. I definitely have a group that the Bluetooth pairing and phone out is too much, so hoping my stock of Echo's gets them to graduation or LiveScribe releases an updated model soon. It's August 2nd! Good luck with fall startup everyone! Eric Matson | Assistive Technology Specialist Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 Pronouns: He / Him / His This communication may contain privileged, non-public or other confidential information. If you have received it in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and immediately delete the message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the contents. Thank you. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Eckelberry, Robin Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:00 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens Hi all, Another option for handwritten notes with synchronized recordings is AudioNote for iOS. or AudioNote for Android There is also an updated AudioNote2 Students would probably need to have a tablet with a stylus, though. Sincerely, Robin From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Romack, Justin Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:53 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Howdy Keith! Yes, we've hit the same wall with the older model of the Echo. I have a couple of newer Livescribe models (a couple of Livescribe 3's and an Aegir), but I'm on the fence as to whether or not we'll double down on these models. I have several reservations of models other than the Echo... most notably the necessity of pairing an external device to get audio recording and the fact you can't physically tap the notes with the pen to start playback of audio (though I realize you can do this by using the notes synced in the app.) I'm holding out to see what Livescribe does with an updated Echo. It baffles my mind a company with such a great product could be so out of touch and slow to respond to a market like ours, but another topic for a different thread. As for notetaking apps: I recommend OneNote in many situations. It's easy to use, we have Microsoft365 access for our campus and it's cross-platform. We piloted Glean last year and, while I know it's changed some, I still don't see Glean's value over other options on the market. Students weren't raving when we discontinued our pilot either, so I let their opinion validate my own. :) I'm still convinced that, in many cases, a good ol' fashioned digital voice recorder with a visible timestamp beats many high-tech notetaking solutions. I really avoid encouraging students use typed notes with OneNote unless they're already typing notes.. as I value the learning potential afforded to most student who take handwritten notes. Glad you asked this question! Our Livescribe journey has been on my mind this apst week. Be well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Keith Kolander Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 1:50 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens Hi, The Livescribe Echo pens have been popular, and still are, despite being discontinued. Remaining ones are hard to find, and have more than doubled in price. Even the notebooks have jumped in price quite a bit. Are you using any alternatives at the moment, or laying low and waiting for the Echo 2 to come out? Also, if any of your students are using notetaking apps, are there any that they seem to prefer using? Thanks, Keith Keith Kolander Adaptive Technology Specialist St. Charles Community College Cottleville, MO 63376 kkolander@stchas.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Mon Aug 2 11:50:44 2021 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Mon Aug 2 11:51:11 2021 Subject: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Livescribe echo pens In-Reply-To: <3d1be331e2244466aa412722e7936bb0@ppcc.edu> References: <9e9d918ddd8f4979a4bd5808f8b6a8da@disability.tamu.edu> <999cec8c497043039f92c34c01289a00@ppcc.edu> <3d1be331e2244466aa412722e7936bb0@ppcc.edu> Message-ID: I also find this odd. The videos I've watched indicate this is possible. I'm pretty sure my student has done this, but I think she is using an Android device. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Eckelberry, Robin Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 1:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hi Eric, OneNote on iPad was the last I checked (last week), and when recording audio, it still blocks the ability to do any notetaking (typed, drawn, handwritten, etc.), which I find very odd. I had a student using a Surface Pro and handwriting in OneNote, with recording, for math, specifically. The Surface Pro ran the desktop version of OneNote, so simultaneous recording and notetaking was possible. I have not had any luck using the Livescribe+ app. On an older iPad (version 9), it downloads but does not launch. On a newer iPad (version 14), it will not even download. So, right now, I am not able to even demo my Livescribe3 pen to show students how the Symphony (or limited, which is the only in stock) would work. I am not sure what the trick is to getting the app to work! It was never a problem before. Sincerely, Robin From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 11:30 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Tablets have come down in price to the point where they aren't too much more than the Echos. Anyone trying a tablet and stylus this fall as a replacement to get that tactile feel of writing notes? I definitely have reservations about doing that, but still might be an option. Last I checked, OneNote on Android could sync typed notes with audio, but couldn't record while writing with a stylus, but that's been a couple years ago. Anyone know if Microsoft found a way to make recording audio and using a stylus work together? We're going to offer Sonocent again this fall, but the I'm with Justin in that I didn't get anyone begging to have Glean back. With their pricing model there I can't see using it over OneNote which we have access to as part of our Microsoft contract. As for pairing with phones to record on the Symphony / Aegir / LiveScribe 3 models, again I agree with Justin that I don't like it. However my younger students are more and more using their phone for everything and seem to be loving the Symphony models. I definitely have a group that the Bluetooth pairing and phone out is too much, so hoping my stock of Echo's gets them to graduation or LiveScribe releases an updated model soon. It's August 2nd! Good luck with fall startup everyone! Eric Matson | Assistive Technology Specialist Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 Pronouns: He / Him / His This communication may contain privileged, non-public or other confidential information. If you have received it in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and immediately delete the message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the contents. Thank you. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Eckelberry, Robin Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:00 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens Hi all, Another option for handwritten notes with synchronized recordings is AudioNote for iOS. or AudioNote for Android There is also an updated AudioNote2 Students would probably need to have a tablet with a stylus, though. Sincerely, Robin From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Romack, Justin Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:53 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Howdy Keith! Yes, we've hit the same wall with the older model of the Echo. I have a couple of newer Livescribe models (a couple of Livescribe 3's and an Aegir), but I'm on the fence as to whether or not we'll double down on these models. I have several reservations of models other than the Echo... most notably the necessity of pairing an external device to get audio recording and the fact you can't physically tap the notes with the pen to start playback of audio (though I realize you can do this by using the notes synced in the app.) I'm holding out to see what Livescribe does with an updated Echo. It baffles my mind a company with such a great product could be so out of touch and slow to respond to a market like ours, but another topic for a different thread. As for notetaking apps: I recommend OneNote in many situations. It's easy to use, we have Microsoft365 access for our campus and it's cross-platform. We piloted Glean last year and, while I know it's changed some, I still don't see Glean's value over other options on the market. Students weren't raving when we discontinued our pilot either, so I let their opinion validate my own. :) I'm still convinced that, in many cases, a good ol' fashioned digital voice recorder with a visible timestamp beats many high-tech notetaking solutions. I really avoid encouraging students use typed notes with OneNote unless they're already typing notes.. as I value the learning potential afforded to most student who take handwritten notes. Glad you asked this question! Our Livescribe journey has been on my mind this apst week. Be well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Keith Kolander Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 1:50 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens Hi, The Livescribe Echo pens have been popular, and still are, despite being discontinued. Remaining ones are hard to find, and have more than doubled in price. Even the notebooks have jumped in price quite a bit. Are you using any alternatives at the moment, or laying low and waiting for the Echo 2 to come out? Also, if any of your students are using notetaking apps, are there any that they seem to prefer using? Thanks, Keith Keith Kolander Adaptive Technology Specialist St. Charles Community College Cottleville, MO 63376 kkolander@stchas.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hunziker at arizona.edu Mon Aug 2 14:24:42 2021 From: hunziker at arizona.edu (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) Date: Mon Aug 2 14:25:06 2021 Subject: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Livescribe echo pens In-Reply-To: References: <9e9d918ddd8f4979a4bd5808f8b6a8da@disability.tamu.edu> <999cec8c497043039f92c34c01289a00@ppcc.edu> <3d1be331e2244466aa412722e7936bb0@ppcc.edu> Message-ID: Wow, I just checked my iPad pro with OneNote and Robin is correct. When you insert an audio recording in your OneNote, there is a "pop-up" showing that a recording is taking place and everything behind is grayed out/unavailable. That's a big fail for design... I'm going to email the Microsoft Accessibility Team and find out what happened/what's the plan because we need to change our strategy for student suggestions if this is going to remain this way.... Bear Down, Dawn Dawn Hunziker Assistant Director, Digital and Physical Access | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 11:51 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Livescribe echo pens External Email I also find this odd. The videos I've watched indicate this is possible. I'm pretty sure my student has done this, but I think she is using an Android device. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Eckelberry, Robin Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 1:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hi Eric, OneNote on iPad was the last I checked (last week), and when recording audio, it still blocks the ability to do any notetaking (typed, drawn, handwritten, etc.), which I find very odd. I had a student using a Surface Pro and handwriting in OneNote, with recording, for math, specifically. The Surface Pro ran the desktop version of OneNote, so simultaneous recording and notetaking was possible. I have not had any luck using the Livescribe+ app. On an older iPad (version 9), it downloads but does not launch. On a newer iPad (version 14), it will not even download. So, right now, I am not able to even demo my Livescribe3 pen to show students how the Symphony (or limited, which is the only in stock) would work. I am not sure what the trick is to getting the app to work! It was never a problem before. Sincerely, Robin From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 11:30 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Tablets have come down in price to the point where they aren't too much more than the Echos. Anyone trying a tablet and stylus this fall as a replacement to get that tactile feel of writing notes? I definitely have reservations about doing that, but still might be an option. Last I checked, OneNote on Android could sync typed notes with audio, but couldn't record while writing with a stylus, but that's been a couple years ago. Anyone know if Microsoft found a way to make recording audio and using a stylus work together? We're going to offer Sonocent again this fall, but the I'm with Justin in that I didn't get anyone begging to have Glean back. With their pricing model there I can't see using it over OneNote which we have access to as part of our Microsoft contract. As for pairing with phones to record on the Symphony / Aegir / LiveScribe 3 models, again I agree with Justin that I don't like it. However my younger students are more and more using their phone for everything and seem to be loving the Symphony models. I definitely have a group that the Bluetooth pairing and phone out is too much, so hoping my stock of Echo's gets them to graduation or LiveScribe releases an updated model soon. It's August 2nd! Good luck with fall startup everyone! Eric Matson | Assistive Technology Specialist Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 Pronouns: He / Him / His This communication may contain privileged, non-public or other confidential information. If you have received it in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and immediately delete the message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the contents. Thank you. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Eckelberry, Robin Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:00 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens Hi all, Another option for handwritten notes with synchronized recordings is AudioNote for iOS. or AudioNote for Android There is also an updated AudioNote2 Students would probably need to have a tablet with a stylus, though. Sincerely, Robin From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Romack, Justin Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:53 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Howdy Keith! Yes, we've hit the same wall with the older model of the Echo. I have a couple of newer Livescribe models (a couple of Livescribe 3's and an Aegir), but I'm on the fence as to whether or not we'll double down on these models. I have several reservations of models other than the Echo... most notably the necessity of pairing an external device to get audio recording and the fact you can't physically tap the notes with the pen to start playback of audio (though I realize you can do this by using the notes synced in the app.) I'm holding out to see what Livescribe does with an updated Echo. It baffles my mind a company with such a great product could be so out of touch and slow to respond to a market like ours, but another topic for a different thread. As for notetaking apps: I recommend OneNote in many situations. It's easy to use, we have Microsoft365 access for our campus and it's cross-platform. We piloted Glean last year and, while I know it's changed some, I still don't see Glean's value over other options on the market. Students weren't raving when we discontinued our pilot either, so I let their opinion validate my own. :) I'm still convinced that, in many cases, a good ol' fashioned digital voice recorder with a visible timestamp beats many high-tech notetaking solutions. I really avoid encouraging students use typed notes with OneNote unless they're already typing notes.. as I value the learning potential afforded to most student who take handwritten notes. Glad you asked this question! Our Livescribe journey has been on my mind this apst week. Be well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Keith Kolander Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 1:50 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens Hi, The Livescribe Echo pens have been popular, and still are, despite being discontinued. Remaining ones are hard to find, and have more than doubled in price. Even the notebooks have jumped in price quite a bit. Are you using any alternatives at the moment, or laying low and waiting for the Echo 2 to come out? Also, if any of your students are using notetaking apps, are there any that they seem to prefer using? Thanks, Keith Keith Kolander Adaptive Technology Specialist St. Charles Community College Cottleville, MO 63376 kkolander@stchas.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hunziker at arizona.edu Mon Aug 2 15:07:43 2021 From: hunziker at arizona.edu (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) Date: Mon Aug 2 15:07:52 2021 Subject: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Livescribe echo pens In-Reply-To: References: <9e9d918ddd8f4979a4bd5808f8b6a8da@disability.tamu.edu> <999cec8c497043039f92c34c01289a00@ppcc.edu> <3d1be331e2244466aa412722e7936bb0@ppcc.edu> Message-ID: Hi all, A little research and it looks like using an iPad with OneNote has limited note-taking while recording audio for 2 years.... Adding in COVID time-blur, that might be about right for timing since I last looked at this option and showed a student how to use it. The thread I found that discusses this has people stating that Microsoft made this change so that it's a "Windows-exclusive feature." Notability is being noted as the app to use on an iPad for this type of functionality but I haven't verified. This is such a disappointing find since that feature availability across all devices was such a nice benefit.... At any rate, I did email Microsoft's Accessibility Team - If they confirm anything different from what I've found, I'll be sure to share. Dawn Dawn Hunziker Assistant Director, Digital and Physical Access | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 From: Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 2:25 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Livescribe echo pens Wow, I just checked my iPad pro with OneNote and Robin is correct. When you insert an audio recording in your OneNote, there is a "pop-up" showing that a recording is taking place and everything behind is grayed out/unavailable. That's a big fail for design... I'm going to email the Microsoft Accessibility Team and find out what happened/what's the plan because we need to change our strategy for student suggestions if this is going to remain this way.... Bear Down, Dawn Dawn Hunziker Assistant Director, Digital and Physical Access | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 11:51 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Livescribe echo pens External Email I also find this odd. The videos I've watched indicate this is possible. I'm pretty sure my student has done this, but I think she is using an Android device. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Eckelberry, Robin Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 1:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hi Eric, OneNote on iPad was the last I checked (last week), and when recording audio, it still blocks the ability to do any notetaking (typed, drawn, handwritten, etc.), which I find very odd. I had a student using a Surface Pro and handwriting in OneNote, with recording, for math, specifically. The Surface Pro ran the desktop version of OneNote, so simultaneous recording and notetaking was possible. I have not had any luck using the Livescribe+ app. On an older iPad (version 9), it downloads but does not launch. On a newer iPad (version 14), it will not even download. So, right now, I am not able to even demo my Livescribe3 pen to show students how the Symphony (or limited, which is the only in stock) would work. I am not sure what the trick is to getting the app to work! It was never a problem before. Sincerely, Robin From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 11:30 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Tablets have come down in price to the point where they aren't too much more than the Echos. Anyone trying a tablet and stylus this fall as a replacement to get that tactile feel of writing notes? I definitely have reservations about doing that, but still might be an option. Last I checked, OneNote on Android could sync typed notes with audio, but couldn't record while writing with a stylus, but that's been a couple years ago. Anyone know if Microsoft found a way to make recording audio and using a stylus work together? We're going to offer Sonocent again this fall, but the I'm with Justin in that I didn't get anyone begging to have Glean back. With their pricing model there I can't see using it over OneNote which we have access to as part of our Microsoft contract. As for pairing with phones to record on the Symphony / Aegir / LiveScribe 3 models, again I agree with Justin that I don't like it. However my younger students are more and more using their phone for everything and seem to be loving the Symphony models. I definitely have a group that the Bluetooth pairing and phone out is too much, so hoping my stock of Echo's gets them to graduation or LiveScribe releases an updated model soon. It's August 2nd! Good luck with fall startup everyone! Eric Matson | Assistive Technology Specialist Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 Pronouns: He / Him / His This communication may contain privileged, non-public or other confidential information. If you have received it in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and immediately delete the message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the contents. Thank you. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Eckelberry, Robin Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:00 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens Hi all, Another option for handwritten notes with synchronized recordings is AudioNote for iOS. or AudioNote for Android There is also an updated AudioNote2 Students would probably need to have a tablet with a stylus, though. Sincerely, Robin From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Romack, Justin Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:53 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Howdy Keith! Yes, we've hit the same wall with the older model of the Echo. I have a couple of newer Livescribe models (a couple of Livescribe 3's and an Aegir), but I'm on the fence as to whether or not we'll double down on these models. I have several reservations of models other than the Echo... most notably the necessity of pairing an external device to get audio recording and the fact you can't physically tap the notes with the pen to start playback of audio (though I realize you can do this by using the notes synced in the app.) I'm holding out to see what Livescribe does with an updated Echo. It baffles my mind a company with such a great product could be so out of touch and slow to respond to a market like ours, but another topic for a different thread. As for notetaking apps: I recommend OneNote in many situations. It's easy to use, we have Microsoft365 access for our campus and it's cross-platform. We piloted Glean last year and, while I know it's changed some, I still don't see Glean's value over other options on the market. Students weren't raving when we discontinued our pilot either, so I let their opinion validate my own. :) I'm still convinced that, in many cases, a good ol' fashioned digital voice recorder with a visible timestamp beats many high-tech notetaking solutions. I really avoid encouraging students use typed notes with OneNote unless they're already typing notes.. as I value the learning potential afforded to most student who take handwritten notes. Glad you asked this question! Our Livescribe journey has been on my mind this apst week. Be well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Keith Kolander Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 1:50 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens Hi, The Livescribe Echo pens have been popular, and still are, despite being discontinued. Remaining ones are hard to find, and have more than doubled in price. Even the notebooks have jumped in price quite a bit. Are you using any alternatives at the moment, or laying low and waiting for the Echo 2 to come out? Also, if any of your students are using notetaking apps, are there any that they seem to prefer using? Thanks, Keith Keith Kolander Adaptive Technology Specialist St. Charles Community College Cottleville, MO 63376 kkolander@stchas.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Tue Aug 3 06:24:45 2021 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Tue Aug 3 06:25:20 2021 Subject: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Livescribe echo pens In-Reply-To: References: <9e9d918ddd8f4979a4bd5808f8b6a8da@disability.tamu.edu> <999cec8c497043039f92c34c01289a00@ppcc.edu> <3d1be331e2244466aa412722e7936bb0@ppcc.edu> Message-ID: Thank you for checking this. I have some students that will need to change their plans. How completely disappointing. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 4:25 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Livescribe echo pens Wow, I just checked my iPad pro with OneNote and Robin is correct. When you insert an audio recording in your OneNote, there is a "pop-up" showing that a recording is taking place and everything behind is grayed out/unavailable. That's a big fail for design... I'm going to email the Microsoft Accessibility Team and find out what happened/what's the plan because we need to change our strategy for student suggestions if this is going to remain this way.... Bear Down, Dawn Dawn Hunziker Assistant Director, Digital and Physical Access | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 11:51 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Livescribe echo pens External Email I also find this odd. The videos I've watched indicate this is possible. I'm pretty sure my student has done this, but I think she is using an Android device. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Eckelberry, Robin Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 1:29 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hi Eric, OneNote on iPad was the last I checked (last week), and when recording audio, it still blocks the ability to do any notetaking (typed, drawn, handwritten, etc.), which I find very odd. I had a student using a Surface Pro and handwriting in OneNote, with recording, for math, specifically. The Surface Pro ran the desktop version of OneNote, so simultaneous recording and notetaking was possible. I have not had any luck using the Livescribe+ app. On an older iPad (version 9), it downloads but does not launch. On a newer iPad (version 14), it will not even download. So, right now, I am not able to even demo my Livescribe3 pen to show students how the Symphony (or limited, which is the only in stock) would work. I am not sure what the trick is to getting the app to work! It was never a problem before. Sincerely, Robin From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 11:30 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Tablets have come down in price to the point where they aren't too much more than the Echos. Anyone trying a tablet and stylus this fall as a replacement to get that tactile feel of writing notes? I definitely have reservations about doing that, but still might be an option. Last I checked, OneNote on Android could sync typed notes with audio, but couldn't record while writing with a stylus, but that's been a couple years ago. Anyone know if Microsoft found a way to make recording audio and using a stylus work together? We're going to offer Sonocent again this fall, but the I'm with Justin in that I didn't get anyone begging to have Glean back. With their pricing model there I can't see using it over OneNote which we have access to as part of our Microsoft contract. As for pairing with phones to record on the Symphony / Aegir / LiveScribe 3 models, again I agree with Justin that I don't like it. However my younger students are more and more using their phone for everything and seem to be loving the Symphony models. I definitely have a group that the Bluetooth pairing and phone out is too much, so hoping my stock of Echo's gets them to graduation or LiveScribe releases an updated model soon. It's August 2nd! Good luck with fall startup everyone! Eric Matson | Assistive Technology Specialist Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 Pronouns: He / Him / His This communication may contain privileged, non-public or other confidential information. If you have received it in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and immediately delete the message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the contents. Thank you. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Eckelberry, Robin Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:00 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens Hi all, Another option for handwritten notes with synchronized recordings is AudioNote for iOS. or AudioNote for Android There is also an updated AudioNote2 Students would probably need to have a tablet with a stylus, though. Sincerely, Robin From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Romack, Justin Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:53 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Howdy Keith! Yes, we've hit the same wall with the older model of the Echo. I have a couple of newer Livescribe models (a couple of Livescribe 3's and an Aegir), but I'm on the fence as to whether or not we'll double down on these models. I have several reservations of models other than the Echo... most notably the necessity of pairing an external device to get audio recording and the fact you can't physically tap the notes with the pen to start playback of audio (though I realize you can do this by using the notes synced in the app.) I'm holding out to see what Livescribe does with an updated Echo. It baffles my mind a company with such a great product could be so out of touch and slow to respond to a market like ours, but another topic for a different thread. As for notetaking apps: I recommend OneNote in many situations. It's easy to use, we have Microsoft365 access for our campus and it's cross-platform. We piloted Glean last year and, while I know it's changed some, I still don't see Glean's value over other options on the market. Students weren't raving when we discontinued our pilot either, so I let their opinion validate my own. :) I'm still convinced that, in many cases, a good ol' fashioned digital voice recorder with a visible timestamp beats many high-tech notetaking solutions. I really avoid encouraging students use typed notes with OneNote unless they're already typing notes.. as I value the learning potential afforded to most student who take handwritten notes. Glad you asked this question! Our Livescribe journey has been on my mind this apst week. Be well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Keith Kolander Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 1:50 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Livescribe echo pens Hi, The Livescribe Echo pens have been popular, and still are, despite being discontinued. Remaining ones are hard to find, and have more than doubled in price. Even the notebooks have jumped in price quite a bit. Are you using any alternatives at the moment, or laying low and waiting for the Echo 2 to come out? Also, if any of your students are using notetaking apps, are there any that they seem to prefer using? Thanks, Keith Keith Kolander Adaptive Technology Specialist St. Charles Community College Cottleville, MO 63376 kkolander@stchas.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I get a message saying I can only open them in Reader X. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Adobe Reader X? Or, does anyone know how to open a PDF portfolio created inX in Pro DC. I've even tried opening it in other apps. There is no help of the Internet that I can find. ...I can't find a setting in Pro DC to allow me to open X files. Cheers, Karen Get Outlook for iOS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 8916 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From K4mccall at outlook.com Wed Aug 4 07:29:56 2021 From: K4mccall at outlook.com (Karen McCall) Date: Wed Aug 4 07:30:15 2021 Subject: [Athen] Acrobat Reader X Portfolio Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I put the file on an external hard drive and it opens no problem. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 9:22 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Acrobat Reader X Portfolio Problem I have Adobe 17, rather than DC...do you think that might work? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D7891B.A9BE1CD0] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Karen McCall Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 3:04 PM To: ATHEN > Cc: webaim-forum@list.webaim.org Subject: [Athen] Acrobat Reader X Portfolio Problem I have 2 PDF portfolios that were created against my better judgement in Acrobat 10. I can't open either of them in Acrobat Pro DC. I get a message saying I can only open them in Reader X. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Adobe Reader X? Or, does anyone know how to open a PDF portfolio created inX in Pro DC. I've even tried opening it in other apps. There is no help of the Internet that I can find. ...I can't find a setting in Pro DC to allow me to open X files. Cheers, Karen Get Outlook for iOS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 8916 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From smarositz at csudh.edu Thu Aug 5 09:34:58 2021 From: smarositz at csudh.edu (Stephen Marositz) Date: Thu Aug 5 09:35:09 2021 Subject: [Athen] Job Announcement Message-ID: Greetings, and please excuse cross-posting California State University, Dominguez Hills is hiring an accessibility support assistant. If you know anyone who may be interested, please direct them to the below link for more information and to apply. https://careers.csudh.edu/en-us/job/503395/accessibility-support-assistant-administrative-support-assistant-ii They will be working with an outstanding team. Thank You Alex Marositz J.D. ATAC Information Security and Compliance Office Information Technology California State University, Dominguez Hills E: smarositz@csudh.edu https://www.csudh.edu/it/security-compliance/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lydia at autistichoya.com Mon Aug 9 10:52:00 2021 From: lydia at autistichoya.com (Lydia X. Z. Brown) Date: Mon Aug 9 10:53:09 2021 Subject: [Athen] =?utf-8?q?Berkeley_CA=3A_=E2=80=8BCenter_for_Accessible_T?= =?utf-8?q?echnology_hiring_Executive_Director?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just the messenger: Listmates: The Center for Accessible Technology, in Berkeley, California, is seeking candidates for the position of Executive Director. Those of you who are local may be aware that our Executive Director Dmitri Belser passed away earlier this year ( there will be a memorial in September at the Ed Roberts Campus ? let me know if you need more information). I have attached the posting for the position as a Word document, or the same information is available through the links below. - Our website - LinkedIn - Indeed For folks who are not familiar with our organization, we are focused on the use of technology to support the ability of people with disabilities to live independently. This overarching mission takes multiple separate forms. Those on this list may be aware that our policy team works primarily before the California Public Utilities Commission to support reliable and affordable access to vital services including electricity and broadband. This has included a lot of work in support of low-income communities generally, as well as efforts to regulate ride-hailing services (Lyft and Uber), work to support the availability of speech-generating devices to allow people to access telecommunications, support for eliminating utility debt accumulated during the Covid crisis, and many other items that may not immediately come to mind when you think about utilities. This work is similar in many ways to the complex litigation that is the focus of many DRBA members, except that proceedings have numerous parties and take place in an administrative setting. We also have a web accessibility team that works with other nonprofits, government agencies and private companies on compliance with web accessibility standards, including a unique tester bank that focuses on real-world usability. And we have AT specialists who provide direct services, primarily to students, to ensure that they have access to adaptive equipment and other necessary support. We are looking for someone with a background in one of these areas and an interest in the others, as well as an openness to additional concepts that may come up in the future to advance our overall mission. Applications are being accepted now. Please feel free to distribute these materials further. Thanks. Melissa Melissa W. Kasnitz, Legal Director Center for Accessible Technology 3075 Adeline Street Suite 220 Berkeley, CA 94703 510-841-3224 x 2019 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Curious what setups you might have used or tried for screen reader users with Braille displays to: Scenario 1: follow along with live captioning so that the Braille streams or scrolls across the display without the need for user to continuously scroll or navigate to find the newest caption or current line (essentially the user's cursor/place is linked to where the captioner is writing the most recent captions and has the effect similar to a screen reader echoing everything that a user types). In this scenario they may not be able to read back further than the current line or caption, similar to a ticker tape display. Scenario 2: Same as scenario 1, but adding the ability for the user to scroll back through the captions without interrupting the live captions. When desired they can jump back to sync up again with the live captions. Setup questions: 1. What interface/application did you provide or did the user use to display the captions? 2. If browser based, which browser was used? 3. What screen readers worked or didn't work? 4. What settings did you have to change on the interface/application and screen reader to get it to work? 5. Which cursor did the user utilize? 6. What limitation were there and what feedback did you receive? Thanks for any experiences you can share and please take care through this busy fall prep season, Todd Schwanke (he/him) University of Wisconsin - Madison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marsh058 at umn.edu Wed Aug 11 04:28:56 2021 From: marsh058 at umn.edu (Scott Marshall) Date: Wed Aug 11 04:29:41 2021 Subject: [Athen] ISO document remediation contractors Message-ID: Hi all - Someone here at the University of Minnesota would like to talk with a couple of folks who do document remediation work on a contract basis. I know that's a broad description. If you are or know someone who does this work and you'd like to learn more, would you send me a note off-list and I'll make an introduction? Thank you! Scott -- Scott Marshall (he / him) Associate Director University of Minnesota Disability Resource Center o. 612.626.4954 m. 612.245.7632 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lgreco at berkeley.edu Wed Aug 11 09:45:39 2021 From: lgreco at berkeley.edu (Lucy GRECO) Date: Wed Aug 11 09:46:24 2021 Subject: [Athen] ISO document remediation contractors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hi you might want to check out scribe it might bee a lot more cost effective https://pneumasolutions.com/scribe-for-education/ Lucia Greco Web Accessibility Evangelist IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration University of California, Berkeley (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco http://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 4:30 AM Scott Marshall wrote: > Hi all - Someone here at the University of Minnesota would like to talk > with a couple of folks who do document remediation work on a contract > basis. I know that's a broad description. If you are or know someone who > does this work and you'd like to learn more, would you send me a note > off-list and I'll make an introduction? > > Thank you! > > Scott > > -- > Scott Marshall (he / him) > Associate Director > University of Minnesota Disability Resource Center > > o. 612.626.4954 > m. 612.245.7632 > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ecmatson at uidaho.edu Wed Aug 11 14:20:42 2021 From: ecmatson at uidaho.edu (Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu)) Date: Wed Aug 11 14:21:18 2021 Subject: [Athen] 2004 Merchant of Venice Descriptive Audio Message-ID: Hey all, Anyone know if there is a descriptive audio track anywhere for the 2004 film version of the Merchant of Venice? Didn't see it listed as a feature in the Amazon or iTunes versions. Pretty new to finding descriptive audio tracks, so other than a google search, any other places I should be looking? Thanks! Eric Matson | Assistive Technology Specialist Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 Pronouns: He / Him / His This communication may contain privileged, non-public or other confidential information. If you have received it in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and immediately delete the message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the contents. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justinr at disability.tamu.edu Thu Aug 12 07:35:49 2021 From: justinr at disability.tamu.edu (Romack, Justin) Date: Thu Aug 12 07:36:02 2021 Subject: [Athen] 2004 Merchant of Venice Descriptive Audio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Howdy! I couldn't find a source that had an audio description for this title. The American Council of the Blind maintains a good database of titles with AD through their Audio Description Project: https://adp.acb.org/ If not available commercially, I've had some luck working with our library's media procurment procurement team to get AD from production companies directly via their sources. We had a blind student in a film class last fall where we were able to get five of fiteen titles with AD commercially, and then another five titles via the library's sources. It sure helped cover ground! Hope that helps. Thanks, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 4:21 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] 2004 Merchant of Venice Descriptive Audio Hey all, Anyone know if there is a descriptive audio track anywhere for the 2004 film version of the Merchant of Venice? Didn't see it listed as a feature in the Amazon or iTunes versions. Pretty new to finding descriptive audio tracks, so other than a google search, any other places I should be looking? Thanks! Eric Matson | Assistive Technology Specialist Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 Pronouns: He / Him / His This communication may contain privileged, non-public or other confidential information. 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It's very exciting to talk with these potential employees and see their excitement for music, teaching music, and desire to learn something music-related outside of their typical academics which can be very beneficial for them (and their students) in the future. Anyone familiar with SharpEye 2? BailleMuse? MuseScore? Would love to talk with you! Please email me at: hascher@uark.edu! Stay well all! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT *she, her, hers* Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Thu Aug 12 18:14:42 2021 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype@gmail.com) Date: Thu Aug 12 18:15:12 2021 Subject: [Athen] Music conversion to braille music In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I can help. Wink On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 5:49 PM Heidi Scher wrote: > Hello all! > > In all my years of being involved with document conversion, this is the > first that I've been requested to do music! Yes - I'm excited! I've > actually got some great resources from the student's high school > instructors who didn't have assistance with converting the scores. > > But I'd like to chat with someone in postsec who has some experience with > converting to MusicXML and then to braille music. We are also in the > process of hiring some student workers who are upper-class level in music > education. It's very exciting to talk with these potential employees and > see their excitement for music, teaching music, and desire to learn > something music-related outside of their typical academics which can be > very beneficial for them (and their students) in the future. > > Anyone familiar with SharpEye 2? BailleMuse? MuseScore? Would love to > talk with you! > > Please email me at: hascher@uark.edu! > > Stay well all! > > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director - AT > *she, her, hers* > Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas > 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 phone > 479.575.7445 fax > +++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Wink Harner Assistive Technology Consulting and Training Alternative Text Production Portland OR. foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Doug.Mantle at kings.uwo.ca Fri Aug 13 06:11:27 2021 From: Doug.Mantle at kings.uwo.ca (Doug Mantle) Date: Fri Aug 13 06:11:56 2021 Subject: [Athen] FW: [N.O.A.T.] One Week to go! - Don't miss the upcoming VoxAid and Dragon webinar Friday, August 20 @ 1:30pm Eastern In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good day! Passing along this invitation for those who?d like to join us?. Take care everyone! Happy almost September! Doug Subject: [N.O.A.T.] One Week to go! - Don't miss the upcoming VoxAid and Dragon webinar Friday, August 20 @ 1:30pm Eastern Happy Friday Everyone! Only ONE Week To Go... Don't forget to take just a moment and register so you can join us for this fantastic webinar... Join The Network of Assistive Technologists as we welcome Michael Shepherd, author of Dragon Professional - A Step Further. Michael is also the driving force behind VoxAid - Software that provides hands-free control and navigation of popular software applications by voice. VoxAid installs 1000's of bespoke Dragon commands into Dragon Professional Individual, Group, Medical, and Legal, enhancing users hands-free control when using various AT Software. Join us and find out more about ? Creating custom voice commands ? Automating repetitive tasks by voice ? Controlling more than just Office using Dragon and your voice ? How to use Dragon to go beyond dictating text For more details and to register, please visit the N.O.A.T. Events Website. After you register and you are enjoying that 'free time' we all have loads of... Take a moment and check out the VoxAid website and maybe even pick up a copy of Dragon Professional - A Step Further We look forward to seeing you online Friday, August 20, 2021 at 1:30pm Eastern If you have any questions, please reach out. Take care! 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While Scientific Word may end up in the realm of open source software (good thing), math talk & the algorithm that produces the interface for Scientific Notebook & between Dragon NaturallySpeaking & Scientific Notebook is unlikely to be replicated because of copyright & proprietary restrictions. In any case, here is the press release, now a couple of months old. My suggestion is that you share the Scientific Notebook licensing information with those on your campus who have this program and want to continue using it. I received this on another listserv this morning. SOURCE: Jane Fridrich Assistive Technologist Laurier University Hi, the website of MacKichan software makers of MathTalk and Scientific Notebook have closed June 30th. We used scientific notebook as a great math conversion tool. An unfortunate casualty of COVID? The open source code sounds promising... >From their site: https://www.mackichan.com/ MacKichan Software, Inc. has gone out of businessSales have ceased for Scientific WorkPlace, Scientific Word, and Scientific Notebook MacKichan Software, Inc., after providing word processing software for those who speak the language of mathematics for forty years (under several names), closed its doors on June 30, 2021. This marks the end of sales and support for the MacKichan Software products. All owners of Scientific WorkPlace, Scientific Word, or Scientific Notebook should have a serial number that was included in their purchase. This number is also included in the license file for your installation as the last line in the file. If you need to install your software on a new or different computer, you will need to re-activate the software on that computer using that serial number. The software can be activated as before, using the Help/Activate menu item. This contacts the MacKichan Software licensing server, which we will keep running for at least two years. Sites with permanent site licenses will, of course, be free to use Scientific WorkPlace, Scientific Word, and/or Scientific Notebook as long as they like. Those sites that have paid for maintenance with home-use satellite licenses can continue, but will be unable to create new satellite licenses after their maintenance agreement expires. We expect to make Scientific Word an open source product eventually. Since both Scientific WorkPlace and Scientific Notebook contain the proprietary computer algebra system MuPAD, they cannot be made open source. When the open source project for Scientific Word is established, an announcement will be made here. We hope to make version 5.5 of Scientific Word available in the future. It currently contains several components that are licensed and not owned by MacKichan Software. These components need to be removed, and our intention is then to make Scientific Word version 5.5 open source. Barry MacKichan President MacKichan Software, Inc. July 1, 2021 The latest released version of these products is 6.1.2. To update your program to the latest release, click here. The same page also contains links to the installers for version 5.5 and the manuals for versions 5.5 and 6. Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexis_delevett at cuesta.edu Fri Aug 13 15:53:09 2021 From: alexis_delevett at cuesta.edu (Alexis Delevett) Date: Fri Aug 13 15:53:37 2021 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: Music conversion to braille music In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello! This is quite timely since we are also preparing to have low vision students participate in music classes this semester, some of whom are unfamiliar with Braille music notation. I have evaluated software that is able to apply character recognition to images of sheet music and have found that while they do an amazing job there are enough errors to make me wish for a human in the middle. Are there perhaps sheet music digitization services that anyone can recommend? ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of foreigntype@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 6:14 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Athen] Music conversion to braille music I can help. Wink On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 5:49 PM Heidi Scher > wrote: Hello all! In all my years of being involved with document conversion, this is the first that I've been requested to do music! Yes - I'm excited! I've actually got some great resources from the student's high school instructors who didn't have assistance with converting the scores. But I'd like to chat with someone in postsec who has some experience with converting to MusicXML and then to braille music. We are also in the process of hiring some student workers who are upper-class level in music education. It's very exciting to talk with these potential employees and see their excitement for music, teaching music, and desire to learn something music-related outside of their typical academics which can be very beneficial for them (and their students) in the future. Anyone familiar with SharpEye 2? BailleMuse? MuseScore? Would love to talk with you! Please email me at: hascher@uark.edu! Stay well all! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT she, her, hers Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Wink Harner Assistive Technology Consulting and Training Alternative Text Production Portland OR. foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lydia at autistichoya.com Fri Aug 13 18:29:51 2021 From: lydia at autistichoya.com (Lydia X. Z. 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Each of these is an in-page link to a note below the table that applies to the entire series. I'm having trouble remembering whether or not it's a problem for differently named links to lead to the same destination. Any clarity you can provide would be helpful! Best, Michele Michele Joy Bromley, CPACC IT Accessibility and Content Lead Office of Information Technology (OIT) Portland State University (PSU) [image: Portland State University logo] Phone: 503-725-8395 Email: help-accessibility@pdx.edu Website: pdx.edu/accessibility/digital ?The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.? ~ Tim Berners-Lee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From krista at inclusiveinstructionaldesign.com Tue Aug 17 11:52:19 2021 From: krista at inclusiveinstructionaldesign.com (Krista Greear) Date: Tue Aug 17 11:52:58 2021 Subject: [Athen] Job posting - Accessibility Strategist Message-ID: I am looking for a new co-worker! Come be an Accessibility Strategist with me at Blackboard (aka Strategic Consultant). It?s an awesome job, working with colleges and universities all over the world regarding their systemic accessibility issues. We tend to use Blackboard Ally as a catalyst for our work but get to do any type of consulting service that is around accessibility. *Pros* - Pro #1 ? we report to one of the BEST managers ever. For example, he had no prior accessibility experience but has learned to remediate documents to truly understand this work. Very organized, extremely supportive, and super fun! - Pro #2 ? it pays more than most higher education document accessibility / media specialist roles. - Pro #3 ? it was remote before COVID and will stay remote. It does require travel but frankly the amount of travel is dependent upon clients interested in us coming onsite. - Pro #4 ? it?s a wonderful combo of working with people and tech. You get the best of both! Sadly, due to reasons I don?t fully understand, we are unable to accept applicants from California, Colorado or Massachusetts. *Additional Info* - Previous accessibility experience is required. Consulting experience is not. - Most interested in applicants to support clients on the West Coast (but you don?t have to live there, just be willing to work more of those hours than East Coast hours). - Previous experience with Blackboard Ally is a plus but not a requirement. - I?m happy to chat with serious applicants. 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Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation feature. > On Aug 17, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Lane, Lori wrote: > > ? > Good afternoon! > > I was asked about the Panopto video platform, but I don?t know how accessible it is. I evaluated their website, and it is not accessible. So this makes it possible that their video platform could not be accessible. Their VPAT and literature make strong claims about the accessibility of the video quiz: > > https://support.panopto.com/s/article/Learn-About-Accessibility-Features > > Please share if you have experienced or know anything about their video platform. > > Thank you! > > Lori Lane > IT Accessibility Specialist > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kndeibel at syr.edu Tue Aug 17 12:44:43 2021 From: kndeibel at syr.edu (Kate Deibel) Date: Tue Aug 17 12:45:33 2021 Subject: [Athen] Anyone knows about Panopto video platform? In-Reply-To: <453B9C5E-CA31-419B-8091-436F660853B4@gmail.com> References: <453B9C5E-CA31-419B-8091-436F660853B4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Any opinions or facts on Panopto?s abilities to handle audio descriptions? Both standard and enhanced AD? Katherine (Kate) Deibel | PhD Inclusion & Accessibility Librarian Syracuse University Libraries T 315.443.7178 kndeibel@syr.edu 222 Waverly Ave., Syracuse, NY 13244 Syracuse University From: athen-list On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 3:27 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Anyone knows about Panopto video platform? If you?re looking to use the player, uploading videos, or using the management platform, it?s very accessible. Their desktop lecture capture app is not. They were supposed to be releasing a web based version of the lecture capture application and it?s been a long time Sense I?ve looked for it. Using the player with a screen reader is wonderful and the options are great. The only problem is if you?re doing lecture capture as a professor or student who needs to record the project. We?ve had to work out alternatives in those situations. Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation feature. On Aug 17, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Lane, Lori > wrote: ? Good afternoon! I was asked about the Panopto video platform, but I don?t know how accessible it is. I evaluated their website, and it is not accessible. So this makes it possible that their video platform could not be accessible. Their VPAT and literature make strong claims about the accessibility of the video quiz: https://support.panopto.com/s/article/Learn-About-Accessibility-Features Please share if you have experienced or know anything about their video platform. Thank you! Lori Lane IT Accessibility Specialist University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glen.walker at gmail.com Tue Aug 17 13:10:26 2021 From: glen.walker at gmail.com (glen walker) Date: Tue Aug 17 13:10:54 2021 Subject: [Athen] Link Accessibility Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds like a footnote link. It's perfectly fine to have diff links with diff names point to the same destination. There's nothing inherently wrong in WCAG regarding it. When I have links like that, I like to have a link in the footnote that takes me back to the original link (table cell in your case). I do that by dynamically updating the HREF attribute of the footnote link to point back to the destination. Glen On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:50 AM Michele Bromley wrote: > Good morning, all! > > Apologies for cross-posting. I'm working with a client who is really > committed to making their HTML degree maps as accessible as possible. There > are several external and in-page links in their template. We've discussed > descriptive link names that clearly indicate purpose, etc. We've also > discussed the importance of naming links differently/uniquely if they lead > to two, separate destinations. > > In one of their course tables, there are three, separate links in three, > separate cells that refer to courses in a series (e.g. English 101, English > 102, and English 103). Each of these is an in-page link to a note below the > table that applies to the entire series. > > I'm having trouble remembering whether or not it's a problem for > differently named links to lead to the same destination. Any clarity you > can provide would be helpful! > > Best, > > Michele > > > Michele Joy Bromley, CPACC > > IT Accessibility and Content Lead > > Office of Information Technology (OIT) > > Portland State University (PSU) > > [image: Portland State University logo] > > > > Phone: 503-725-8395 > > Email: help-accessibility@pdx.edu > > Website: pdx.edu/accessibility/digital > > > > > ?The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone > regardless of disability is an essential aspect.? ~ Tim Berners-Lee > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Shaun.Hegney at sfcc.spokane.edu Tue Aug 17 14:59:25 2021 From: Shaun.Hegney at sfcc.spokane.edu (Hegney, Shaun) Date: Tue Aug 17 14:59:45 2021 Subject: [Athen] Job posting - Accessibility Strategist In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Krista, I hope your doing well, its good to see your still around. :) Do you have some time to talk this Friday over the phone or via zoom? I'm very interested in hearing more about the job and what it is Blackboard is looking for. Thank you, Shaun Hegney Program Specialist 2 Disability Access Services Spokane Falls Community College Phone: (509)-533-3544 Email: Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Krista Greear Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:52 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Job posting - Accessibility Strategist WARNING: This email is sent from outside CCS email systems. This email failed one or more security checks. Do not open attachments or links unless you are expecting this message. If you need assistance, contact the IT Support Center at (509) 533-4357 or email ITSupportCenter@ccs.spokane.edu I am looking for a new co-worker! Come be an Accessibility Strategist with me at Blackboard (aka Strategic Consultant). It's an awesome job, working with colleges and universities all over the world regarding their systemic accessibility issues. We tend to use Blackboard Ally as a catalyst for our work but get to do any type of consulting service that is around accessibility. Pros * Pro #1 - we report to one of the BEST managers ever. For example, he had no prior accessibility experience but has learned to remediate documents to truly understand this work. Very organized, extremely supportive, and super fun! * Pro #2 - it pays more than most higher education document accessibility / media specialist roles. * Pro #3 - it was remote before COVID and will stay remote. It does require travel but frankly the amount of travel is dependent upon clients interested in us coming onsite. * Pro #4 - it's a wonderful combo of working with people and tech. You get the best of both! Sadly, due to reasons I don't fully understand, we are unable to accept applicants from California, Colorado or Massachusetts. Additional Info * Previous accessibility experience is required. Consulting experience is not. * Most interested in applicants to support clients on the West Coast (but you don't have to live there, just be willing to work more of those hours than East Coast hours). * Previous experience with Blackboard Ally is a plus but not a requirement. * I'm happy to chat with serious applicants. Review the Blackboard Accessibility Strategist job description. 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Thank you, Shaun Hegney Program Specialist 2 Disability Access Services Spokane Falls Community College Phone: (509)-533-3544 Email: Shaun.Hegney@sfcc.spokane.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Krista Greear Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:52 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Job posting - Accessibility Strategist WARNING: This email is sent from outside CCS email systems. This email failed one or more security checks. Do not open attachments or links unless you are expecting this message. If you need assistance, contact the IT Support Center at (509) 533-4357 or email ITSupportCenter@ccs.spokane.edu I am looking for a new co-worker! Come be an Accessibility Strategist with me at Blackboard (aka Strategic Consultant). It's an awesome job, working with colleges and universities all over the world regarding their systemic accessibility issues. We tend to use Blackboard Ally as a catalyst for our work but get to do any type of consulting service that is around accessibility. Pros * Pro #1 - we report to one of the BEST managers ever. For example, he had no prior accessibility experience but has learned to remediate documents to truly understand this work. Very organized, extremely supportive, and super fun! * Pro #2 - it pays more than most higher education document accessibility / media specialist roles. * Pro #3 - it was remote before COVID and will stay remote. It does require travel but frankly the amount of travel is dependent upon clients interested in us coming onsite. * Pro #4 - it's a wonderful combo of working with people and tech. You get the best of both! Sadly, due to reasons I don't fully understand, we are unable to accept applicants from California, Colorado or Massachusetts. Additional Info * Previous accessibility experience is required. Consulting experience is not. * Most interested in applicants to support clients on the West Coast (but you don't have to live there, just be willing to work more of those hours than East Coast hours). * Previous experience with Blackboard Ally is a plus but not a requirement. * I'm happy to chat with serious applicants. Review the Blackboard Accessibility Strategist job description. Krista -- Krista Greear Accessibility and Inclusivity Crusader ATHEN Executive Council Vice President Access Technology Higher Education Network -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There are too many to list individually. We now have more than 700 software listings and 322 colleges represented. Our news is that you can now provide software reviews. I was hoping as many of you could login and provide a review of software you use in your job. It's very short and if you don't have an account its free and we don't provide your information, email to vendors. We're having a contest so the large and small schools with the most reviews at the end of September gets FREE socks. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rate & Review link is at the top of the software listing page [image] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [image] Jeff Dillon Director of Web Services Information Resources & Technology California State University, Sacramento 916.278.7343 l 6000 J Street l Sacramento, CA l 95819 ---------- End Forwarded message --------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Reviewform.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 28204 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please check the forwarded message below for details. > > Thank you. > > Kind Regards, > Laura > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: > Date: Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 7:57 PM > Subject: Digest for list uwebd > To: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Dillon, Jeff" > To: "uwebd@lists.uakron.edu" > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 16:37:30 +0000 > Subject: [uwebd] EdTech Connect launches reviews! > Hi Everyone, > > Thank you to so many on this list who have helped launch EdTech Connect ! > There are too many to list individually. We now have more than 700 software > listings and 322 colleges represented. > > Our news is that you can now provide software reviews. I was hoping as > many of you could login and provide a review of software you use in your > job. It's very short and if you don't have an account its free and we don't > provide your information, email to vendors. > > We're having a contest so the large and small schools with the most reviews > at the end of September gets FREE socks. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Rate & Review link is at the top of the software listing page > [image] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > [image] > > Jeff Dillon > > Director of Web Services > > Information Resources & Technology > > California State University, Sacramento > > 916.278.7343 l 6000 J Street l Sacramento, CA l 95819 > ---------- End Forwarded message --------- > -- Laura L. Carlson Information Technology Systems and Services University of Minnesota Duluth Duluth, MN U.S.A. 55812-3009 http://www.d.umn.edu/itss/training/online/webdesign/ W3C Invited Expert Accessibility Guidelines Working Group https://www.w3.org/groups/wg/ag/participants Pronouns: she/her/hers From hascherdss at gmail.com Wed Aug 18 08:18:52 2021 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Wed Aug 18 08:19:41 2021 Subject: [Athen] Anyone used a Moleskine Pen+ ??? Message-ID: Hi all, With the Livescribe Echo pen difficult/impossible to find at this time, we've been looking for possible alternatives to suggest to students. Is anyone familiar with the Moleskine Pen+ and the Moleskine Notes app? It looks like it's similar to the Livescribe Pens that use a separate app for recording and linking to the written notes. Thanks for any info you can provide! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT *she, her, hers* Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamie.bird at slcc.edu Wed Aug 18 08:46:54 2021 From: jamie.bird at slcc.edu (Jamie Bird) Date: Wed Aug 18 08:47:16 2021 Subject: [Athen] Anyone used a Moleskine Pen+ ??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Our institution has absolutely loved Otter.ai as an alternative to Smart Pens. It records, transcribes, and plays back audio similarly to Smart Pens or Notability. A student can also search the transcription, attach pictures, and it creates ?most used? keywords from the recording. The remote account management and support for each student is very simple as well. Sincerely, Jamie Bird Pronouns: she/her/hers Assistive Technology Coordinator Salt Lake Community College Disability Resource Center 801-957-4659 | STC-053A jamie.bird@slcc.edu [Title: Logo - Description: Salt Lake Community College Logo] From: athen-list On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 9:19 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Anyone used a Moleskine Pen+ ??? CAUTION: This is an external message from: athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu. If you have questions regarding its validity, please review how to identify suspicious emails. Hi all, With the Livescribe Echo pen difficult/impossible to find at this time, we've been looking for possible alternatives to suggest to students. Is anyone familiar with the Moleskine Pen+ and the Moleskine Notes app? It looks like it's similar to the Livescribe Pens that use a separate app for recording and linking to the written notes. Thanks for any info you can provide! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT she, her, hers Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 8028 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Wed Aug 18 09:07:36 2021 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype@gmail.com) Date: Wed Aug 18 09:08:36 2021 Subject: [Athen] Anyone used a Moleskine Pen+ ??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Heidi et al ATHEN--ites The Moleskine and set has not received very good reviews: the pen is overly large and difficult to hold onto for some people. The focus of the camera is difficult to get set straight & at the right angle on the paper. A fully charged pen only lasts about four hours which may not be enough to cover a student for an entire day's worth of classes and/or notetaking. It's handwriting recognition is subpar. It just doesn't seem like a good bargain investment as a notetaking/recording accommodation for students. I have heard that the Neo-Smart Pen is a much more reliable and robust product. Here's a link for more information:https://www.neosmartpen.com/en/ Take a look and see what you think. Hopefully others will have recommendations for more tools that can replace the hard to find Echo pens. Wink Harner Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 8:20 AM Heidi Scher wrote: > Hi all, > > With the Livescribe Echo pen difficult/impossible to find at this time, > we've been looking for possible alternatives to suggest to students. Is > anyone familiar with the Moleskine Pen+ and the Moleskine Notes app? > > It looks like it's similar to the Livescribe Pens that use a separate app > for recording and linking to the written notes. > > Thanks for any info you can provide! > > Heidi > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director - AT > *she, her, hers* > Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas > 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 phone > 479.575.7445 fax > +++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lorilane at illinois.edu Wed Aug 18 11:47:37 2021 From: lorilane at illinois.edu (Lane, Lori) Date: Wed Aug 18 11:48:02 2021 Subject: [Athen] Anyone knows about Panopto video platform? In-Reply-To: <453B9C5E-CA31-419B-8091-436F660853B4@gmail.com> References: <453B9C5E-CA31-419B-8091-436F660853B4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you all for the responses. I appreciate different experiences and views. Very helpful! Lori Lane IT Accessibility Specialist University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign From: athen-list On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dell Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 2:27 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Anyone knows about Panopto video platform? If you?re looking to use the player, uploading videos, or using the management platform, it?s very accessible. Their desktop lecture capture app is not. They were supposed to be releasing a web based version of the lecture capture application and it?s been a long time Sense I?ve looked for it. Using the player with a screen reader is wonderful and the options are great. The only problem is if you?re doing lecture capture as a professor or student who needs to record the project. We?ve had to work out alternatives in those situations. Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation feature. On Aug 17, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Lane, Lori > wrote: ? Good afternoon! I was asked about the Panopto video platform, but I don?t know how accessible it is. I evaluated their website, and it is not accessible. So this makes it possible that their video platform could not be accessible. Their VPAT and literature make strong claims about the accessibility of the video quiz: https://support.panopto.com/s/article/Learn-About-Accessibility-Features Please share if you have experienced or know anything about their video platform. Thank you! Lori Lane IT Accessibility Specialist University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bryantm at seminolestate.edu Wed Aug 18 12:20:05 2021 From: bryantm at seminolestate.edu (Marshall S. Bryant) Date: Wed Aug 18 12:20:15 2021 Subject: [Athen] [External] Re: Anyone used a Moleskine Pen+ ??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, We are trying out the Livescribe Symphony pens since the Echo is hard to find. The good part is that it will still use the same notebooks as the echo. The main difference that I am not a fan of is that the pen needs to pair with another device so that device can record lectures. I?ve had students interested in this device and hopefully will get some use out of it. They all carry smartphones or tablets anyway, so they like the idea. Marshall Bryant Adaptive Technology Specialist Seminole State College of Florida 407-708-2460 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of foreigntype@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:08 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [External] Re: [Athen] Anyone used a Moleskine Pen+ ??? CAUTION: This email originated from outside the College. Make certain you trust this sender before clicking on any links or attachments. Heidi et al ATHEN--ites The Moleskine and set has not received very good reviews: the pen is overly large and difficult to hold onto for some people. The focus of the camera is difficult to get set straight & at the right angle on the paper. A fully charged pen only lasts about four hours which may not be enough to cover a student for an entire day's worth of classes and/or notetaking. It's handwriting recognition is subpar. It just doesn't seem like a good bargain investment as a notetaking/recording accommodation for students. I have heard that the Neo-Smart Pen is a much more reliable and robust product. Here's a link for more information:https://www.neosmartpen.com/en/ Take a look and see what you think. Hopefully others will have recommendations for more tools that can replace the hard to find Echo pens. Wink Harner Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 8:20 AM Heidi Scher > wrote: Hi all, With the Livescribe Echo pen difficult/impossible to find at this time, we've been looking for possible alternatives to suggest to students. Is anyone familiar with the Moleskine Pen+ and the Moleskine Notes app? It looks like it's similar to the Livescribe Pens that use a separate app for recording and linking to the written notes. Thanks for any info you can provide! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT she, her, hers Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list Please Note: *** Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.*** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Additionally, if you know of any and have implemented them at your university, I would like to talk more about the process. We know about Otter.ai and are curious if other services are available or are being used by universities. Sincerely, Tomas Gregg, CPACC Accessibility Analyst UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Center Indiana University 812-856-4112 [Main Office] togregg@iu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Thu Aug 19 16:09:11 2021 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Thu Aug 19 16:09:46 2021 Subject: [Athen] Inquiring about ASR Caption Solution for Mobile devices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42F4AE81-02D3-46CB-8746-1B15D2EA72A8@gmail.com> Take a look at Ava. They have ASR applications that will work on mobile devices and also desktops. They also have the availability of live transcriptionists for an up charge. It?s something that I was looking at to supplement services that we provide and not for replacing traditional cart services. https://ava.me/ If you?re looking at getting other campus partners on board it can do speech recognition and language translation which could be helpful to incoming international students while getting adjusted. Jeff Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation feature. > On Aug 19, 2021, at 5:56 PM, Gregg, Tomas A wrote: > ? > Greetings, > > Our office is looking at Automatic Speech Recognition (ASR) Caption services that have a mobile interface option and can be managed across a university system. The use case would be for a student that is participating in a group setting and can view the captions on their personal device(s). > > I am reaching out to the group to see if anyone knows of an ASR Caption service that would meet the above criteria. Additionally, if you know of any and have implemented them at your university, I would like to talk more about the process. We know about Otter.ai and are curious if other services are available or are being used by universities. > > Sincerely, > > Tomas Gregg, CPACC > Accessibility Analyst > UITS Assistive Technology and Accessibility Center > Indiana University > 812-856-4112 [Main Office] > togregg@iu.edu > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Fri Aug 20 06:59:41 2021 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Fri Aug 20 07:00:50 2021 Subject: [Athen] Anyone used a Moleskine Pen+ ??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks so much for the input, Wink! I appreciate it!! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT *she, her, hers* Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:08 AM foreigntype@gmail.com < foreigntype@gmail.com> wrote: > Heidi et al ATHEN--ites > > The Moleskine and set has not received very good reviews: the pen is > overly large and difficult to hold onto for some people. The focus of the > camera is difficult to get set straight & at the right angle on the paper. > A fully charged pen only lasts about four hours which may not be enough to > cover a student for an entire day's worth of classes and/or notetaking. > It's handwriting recognition is subpar. It just doesn't seem like a good > bargain investment as a notetaking/recording accommodation for students. > > I have heard that the Neo-Smart Pen is a much more reliable and robust > product. Here's a link for more information: > https://www.neosmartpen.com/en/ > > Take a look and see what you think. Hopefully others will have > recommendations for more tools that can replace the hard to find Echo pens. > > Wink Harner > Wink Harner > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > The Foreign Type > > Portland OR > foreigntype@gmail.com > 480-984-0034 > > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 8:20 AM Heidi Scher wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> With the Livescribe Echo pen difficult/impossible to find at this time, >> we've been looking for possible alternatives to suggest to students. Is >> anyone familiar with the Moleskine Pen+ and the Moleskine Notes app? >> >> It looks like it's similar to the Livescribe Pens that use a separate app >> for recording and linking to the written notes. >> >> Thanks for any info you can provide! >> >> Heidi >> +++++++++++++++ >> Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC >> Associate Director - AT >> *she, her, hers* >> Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas >> 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 >> Fayetteville, AR 72701 >> 479.575.3104 phone >> 479.575.7445 fax >> +++++++++++++++ >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Fri Aug 20 07:01:15 2021 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Fri Aug 20 07:01:58 2021 Subject: [Athen] [External] Re: Anyone used a Moleskine Pen+ ??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: HI Marshall, I appreciate that information! I will be interested in your thoughts on the Symphony pen. I know that some others didn't like it - probably because of the need for an additional device for recording. Thank you! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT *she, her, hers* Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 2:20 PM Marshall S. Bryant < bryantm@seminolestate.edu> wrote: > Hello, > > We are trying out the Livescribe Symphony pens since the Echo is hard to > find. The good part is that it will still use the same notebooks as the > echo. The main difference that I am not a fan of is that the pen needs to > pair with another device so that device can record lectures. I?ve had > students interested in this device and hopefully will get some use out of > it. They all carry smartphones or tablets anyway, so they like the idea. > > > > *Marshall Bryant* > > *Adaptive Technology Specialist* > > *Seminole State College of Florida* > > *407-708-2460* > > > > *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] *On > Behalf Of *foreigntype@gmail.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:08 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [External] Re: [Athen] Anyone used a Moleskine Pen+ ??? > > > > *CAUTION:* *This email originated from outside the College.* Make certain > you trust this sender before clicking on any links or attachments. > > Heidi et al ATHEN--ites > > The Moleskine and set has not received very good reviews: the pen is > overly large and difficult to hold onto for some people. The focus of the > camera is difficult to get set straight & at the right angle on the paper. > A fully charged pen only lasts about four hours which may not be enough to > cover a student for an entire day's worth of classes and/or notetaking. > It's handwriting recognition is subpar. It just doesn't seem like a good > bargain investment as a notetaking/recording accommodation for students. > > I have heard that the Neo-Smart Pen is a much more reliable and robust > product. Here's a link for more information: > https://www.neosmartpen.com/en/ > > > Take a look and see what you think. Hopefully others will have > recommendations for more tools that can replace the hard to find Echo pens. > > Wink Harner > > Wink Harner > > Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production > > The Foreign Type > > Portland OR > foreigntype@gmail.com > 480-984-0034 > > This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive > quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 8:20 AM Heidi Scher wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > With the Livescribe Echo pen difficult/impossible to find at this time, > we've been looking for possible alternatives to suggest to students. Is > anyone familiar with the Moleskine Pen+ and the Moleskine Notes app? > > > > It looks like it's similar to the Livescribe Pens that use a separate app > for recording and linking to the written notes. > > > > Thanks for any info you can provide! > > > > Heidi > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director - AT > > *she, her, hers* > > Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas > > 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 phone > 479.575.7445 fax > +++++++++++++++ > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > Please Note: *** Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most > written communications to or from College employees regarding College > business are public records, available to the public and media upon > request. Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public > disclosure.*** > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bryantm at seminolestate.edu Mon Aug 23 07:57:20 2021 From: bryantm at seminolestate.edu (Marshall S. Bryant) Date: Mon Aug 23 07:57:37 2021 Subject: [Athen] [External] Re: Anyone used a Moleskine Pen+ ??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Heidi, To me the pen is very nice and feels well in the hand. One big plus is that there is no OLED to go bad like on the Echos. Everything seems to function like the Echo and it even uses the same notebooks so you don?t need to restock (except for ink cartridges). I really hate the idea of no onboard microphone to record. The good thing is most students have phones and can use the app on that device. The negative to that is that not all instructors like the idea of a phone out in class. Most of our Echo pen?s OLED is out and we need a replacement, and hopefully this will do the trick until the echo2 comes out. I?m trying to find the time to put together some ?how to? videos on the basics of this new pen. Marshall Bryant Adaptive Technology Specialist Seminole State College of Florida 407-708-2460 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 10:01 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [External] Re: Anyone used a Moleskine Pen+ ??? HI Marshall, I appreciate that information! I will be interested in your thoughts on the Symphony pen. I know that some others didn't like it - probably because of the need for an additional device for recording. Thank you! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT she, her, hers Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 2:20 PM Marshall S. Bryant > wrote: Hello, We are trying out the Livescribe Symphony pens since the Echo is hard to find. The good part is that it will still use the same notebooks as the echo. The main difference that I am not a fan of is that the pen needs to pair with another device so that device can record lectures. I?ve had students interested in this device and hopefully will get some use out of it. They all carry smartphones or tablets anyway, so they like the idea. Marshall Bryant Adaptive Technology Specialist Seminole State College of Florida 407-708-2460 From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of foreigntype@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:08 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [External] Re: [Athen] Anyone used a Moleskine Pen+ ??? CAUTION: This email originated from outside the College. Make certain you trust this sender before clicking on any links or attachments. Heidi et al ATHEN--ites The Moleskine and set has not received very good reviews: the pen is overly large and difficult to hold onto for some people. The focus of the camera is difficult to get set straight & at the right angle on the paper. A fully charged pen only lasts about four hours which may not be enough to cover a student for an entire day's worth of classes and/or notetaking. It's handwriting recognition is subpar. It just doesn't seem like a good bargain investment as a notetaking/recording accommodation for students. I have heard that the Neo-Smart Pen is a much more reliable and robust product. Here's a link for more information:https://www.neosmartpen.com/en/ Take a look and see what you think. Hopefully others will have recommendations for more tools that can replace the hard to find Echo pens. Wink Harner Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 8:20 AM Heidi Scher > wrote: Hi all, With the Livescribe Echo pen difficult/impossible to find at this time, we've been looking for possible alternatives to suggest to students. Is anyone familiar with the Moleskine Pen+ and the Moleskine Notes app? It looks like it's similar to the Livescribe Pens that use a separate app for recording and linking to the written notes. Thanks for any info you can provide! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT she, her, hers Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list Please Note: *** Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. 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Assistive Technology Specialist - This position will remain open until 11:59 PM on September 06, 2021 Please go to our job opportunities page to apply. https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/Clackamascc?sort=PostingDate%7CDescending Felicia J. Arce M.Ed, ATP Disabilities Coordinator She/her/hers pronouns (learn about gender pronouns here) Clackamas Community College 19600 Molalla Ave, Oregon City, OR 97045 503.594.3189 * felicia.arce@clackamas.edu [Clackamas Community College] Education That Works * www.clackamas.edu Notice: This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are notified that by law, any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. 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Again--this is NOT for students requiring accommodations--but for the whole classroom and to reduce teacher strain. Thanks for any input! Karen -- *Karen Latimer, ATP* *Senior Assistive Technology Specialist* *Delaware Assistive Technology Initiative * *Center for Disabilities Studies* *461 Wyoming Rd. * *Newark, DE 19716* *302-831-7469* *www.udel.edu/cds * **NOTE: Our Centers are now open 2 days a week BY APPOINTMENT ONLY. Please call your local ATRC for times and days.* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhayman at olympic.edu Tue Aug 24 08:40:37 2021 From: dhayman at olympic.edu (Hayman, Douglass) Date: Tue Aug 24 08:40:50 2021 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] - Classroom amplification for instructors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Karen, As an occasional live audio person in addition to my day job in IT Accessibility I think that when you try to address a group of people and amplify the speaker you get more clarity with a larger, more robust speaker. In addition to a full PA system I own this little puppy that is nearly the same price as the Chattervox but would require something like a Shure SM-58 mic for another $100. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SRM150Pack--mackie-srm150-compact-pa-system-with-stand-and-cable And with additional mini-jack stereo out Y cable with RCA ends you could also get the output of many laptops. Not sure what scenarios you?re envisioning and how many units you?d need. On working with others on small setups like this it was helpful to print out a step by step instruction sheet and affix it to the gear as many get confused or intimidated by such gear. If you reached out to a company like Sweetwater who does audio for bands, studios, churches and so on, they?d easily come up with a bundle that would meet your needs. My sense with Chattervox is that it is overpriced and the small speaker once turned up, would distort too much to be clearly heard by the audience. Doug Hayman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Olympic College dhayman@olympic.edu (360) 475-7632 (currently working remotely and don?t have access to this phone) From: athen-list On Behalf Of Karen Latimer Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 7:35 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXTERNAL] - [Athen] Classroom amplification for instructors CAUTION: This email came from a non-OC system or external source. Beware of phishing and social engineering! Hi all, I have been tasked to find some solutions for staff that will be headed back into the classroom, masked, in order to help with clarity and amplification. Some of these instructors will be in our standard university classrooms, others will be out in the community (where they won't know what is there until they arrive-and may not have wireless access). We have a few Chattervox (all inclusive) systems in our inventory for amplification--but wondered if anyone had tried anything else before I started my research? Again--this is NOT for students requiring accommodations--but for the whole classroom and to reduce teacher strain. Thanks for any input! Karen -- Karen Latimer, ATP Senior Assistive Technology Specialist Delaware Assistive Technology Initiative Center for Disabilities Studies 461 Wyoming Rd. Newark, DE 19716 302-831-7469 www.udel.edu/cds *NOTE: Our Centers are now open 2 days a week BY APPOINTMENT ONLY. 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In addition to a full PA system I own this little puppy that is > nearly the same price as the Chattervox but would require something like a > Shure SM-58 mic for another $100. > > > > > https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SRM150Pack--mackie-srm150-compact-pa-system-with-stand-and-cable > > > > And with additional mini-jack stereo out Y cable with RCA ends you could > also get the output of many laptops. > > > > Not sure what scenarios you?re envisioning and how many units you?d need. > On working with others on small setups like this it was helpful to print > out a step by step instruction sheet and affix it to the gear as many get > confused or intimidated by such gear. If you reached out to a company like > Sweetwater who does audio for bands, studios, churches and so on, they?d > easily come up with a bundle that would meet your needs. > > > > My sense with Chattervox is that it is overpriced and the small speaker > once turned up, would distort too much to be clearly heard by the audience. > > > > Doug Hayman > > IT Accessibility Coordinator > > Information Technology > > Olympic College > > dhayman@olympic.edu > > (360) 475-7632 (currently working remotely and don?t have access to this > phone) > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Karen Latimer > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2021 7:35 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] - [Athen] Classroom amplification for instructors > > > > CAUTION: This email came from a non-OC system or external source. Beware > of phishing and social engineering! > > > > Hi all, > > I have been tasked to find some solutions for staff that will be headed > back into the classroom, masked, in order to help with clarity and > amplification. Some of these instructors will be in our standard > university classrooms, others will be out in the community (where they > won't know what is there until they arrive-and may not have wireless > access). > > > > We have a few Chattervox (all inclusive) systems in our inventory for > amplification--but wondered if anyone had tried anything else before I > started my research? Again--this is NOT for students > requiring accommodations--but for the whole classroom and to reduce teacher > strain. > > > > Thanks for any input! > > Karen > > > > -- > > *Karen Latimer, ATP* > > *Senior Assistive Technology Specialist* > > *Delaware Assistive Technology * > > *Initiative * > > *Center for Disabilities Studies* > > *461 Wyoming Rd. * > > *Newark, DE 19716* > > *302-831-7469* > > *www.udel.edu/cds * > > **NOTE: Our Centers are now open 2 days a week BY APPOINTMENT ONLY. 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We honor their past, present, and future generations, who have lived here for millennia and will forever call this place home. Hi all, I have been tasked to find some solutions for staff that will be headed back into the classroom, masked, in order to help with clarity and amplification. Some of these instructors will be in our standard university classrooms, others will be out in the community (where they won't know what is there until they arrive-and may not have wireless access). We have a few Chattervox (all inclusive) systems in our inventory for amplification--but wondered if anyone had tried anything else before I started my research? Again--this is NOT for students requiring accommodations--but for the whole classroom and to reduce teacher strain. Thanks for any input! Karen -- Karen Latimer, ATP Senior Assistive Technology Specialist Delaware Assistive Technology Initiative Center for Disabilities Studies 461 Wyoming Rd. 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MathType would require a lot of time to re-create each equation/expression (or even just copying/pasting the LaTeX into MathType). EquatIO is a similar story. No comments on Grind EQ's potential. What are your best recommendations for this professor? What else am I missing? Krista -- Krista Greear Accessibility and Inclusivity Crusader ATHEN Executive Council Vice President Access Technology Higher Education Network -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.gardner at viewplus.com Tue Aug 24 15:21:22 2021 From: john.gardner at viewplus.com (John Gardner) Date: Tue Aug 24 15:21:52 2021 Subject: [Athen] Pandoc, EquatIO, Grind EQ, MathType In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Christa, the best course of action at this point may be for him just to make the LaTeX source available to people who request it. Anybody can read LaTeX source, though it is awfully cumbersome. But it is accessible. He might try to open it in Tex2Word however. I haven?t used that app in several years, but it was surprisingly good when I did. And the places that it has troubles may not be hard to fix. Back when I used it, the Word document could be read with any screen reader that could read MathType. And it was pretty cheap. http://www.chikrii.com ? products ? tex2word John From: athen-list On Behalf Of Krista Greear Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 3:06 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Pandoc, EquatIO, Grind EQ, MathType I met with a math professor who is authoring a Linear Algebra book and wants to make it available via OER. The book is already constructed in LaTeX (about 300 pages). The current plan is to distribute it as a PDF because it's visually appealing. But the professor is concerned about accessibility and is willing to change formats / do some reasonable amount of work to make it so. That said, they have already looked at Pandoc and found it to be too complicated. MathType would require a lot of time to re-create each equation/expression (or even just copying/pasting the LaTeX into MathType). EquatIO is a similar story. No comments on Grind EQ's potential. What are your best recommendations for this professor? What else am I missing? Krista -- Krista Greear Accessibility and Inclusivity Crusader ATHEN Executive Council Vice President Access Technology Higher Education Network -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Wed Aug 25 09:06:38 2021 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Wed Aug 25 09:08:02 2021 Subject: [Athen] Pandoc, EquatIO, Grind EQ, MathType In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, since I produce an awful lot of accessible math? There is no way but the manual labor way, for the most part. It is possible with MathType to convert the LaTex into MathML, although I?ve not done that in several years and I believe there are some issues in doing it. MathType is a cumbersome process, but will produce the best output, and with html files, anyone can use them. Visually they can look as nice as a PDF, with a bit of work on the front end. I do applaud the professor who is wanting to take this on. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Krista Greear Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 4:06 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Pandoc, EquatIO, Grind EQ, MathType I met with a math professor who is authoring a Linear Algebra book and wants to make it available via OER. The book is already constructed in LaTeX (about 300 pages). The current plan is to distribute it as a PDF because it's visually appealing. But the professor is concerned about accessibility and is willing to change formats / do some reasonable amount of work to make it so. That said, they have already looked at Pandoc and found it to be too complicated. MathType would require a lot of time to re-create each equation/expression (or even just copying/pasting the LaTeX into MathType). EquatIO is a similar story. No comments on Grind EQ's potential. What are your best recommendations for this professor? What else am I missing? 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You can also go to clean HTML Best George From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 10:07 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Pandoc, EquatIO, Grind EQ, MathType Well, since I produce an awful lot of accessible math? There is no way but the manual labor way, for the most part. It is possible with MathType to convert the LaTex into MathML, although I?ve not done that in several years and I believe there are some issues in doing it. MathType is a cumbersome process, but will produce the best output, and with html files, anyone can use them. Visually they can look as nice as a PDF, with a bit of work on the front end. I do applaud the professor who is wanting to take this on. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Krista Greear Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 4:06 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Pandoc, EquatIO, Grind EQ, MathType I met with a math professor who is authoring a Linear Algebra book and wants to make it available via OER. The book is already constructed in LaTeX (about 300 pages). The current plan is to distribute it as a PDF because it's visually appealing. But the professor is concerned about accessibility and is willing to change formats / do some reasonable amount of work to make it so. That said, they have already looked at Pandoc and found it to be too complicated. MathType would require a lot of time to re-create each equation/expression (or even just copying/pasting the LaTeX into MathType). EquatIO is a similar story. No comments on Grind EQ's potential. What are your best recommendations for this professor? What else am I missing? Krista -- Krista Greear Accessibility and Inclusivity Crusader ATHEN Executive Council Vice President Access Technology Higher Education Network -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sample Pretext book on the web: https://pretextbook.org/examples/sample-book/noparts/html/sample-book.html Same content as a PDF: https://pretextbook.org/examples/sample-book/noparts/sample-book.pdf Some people in the Open Community really like PreTeXt, because you can integrate practice problems from WeBWorK as formative assessment. [cid:image001.jpg@01D75EA2.7393FBF0] Nazely Kurkjian, CPACC (she/hers) SUNY System EIT Accessibility Officer The State University of New York H. Carl McCall Building - Albany, New York 12246 From: athen-list On Behalf Of kerscher@montana.com Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 12:42 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Pandoc, EquatIO, Grind EQ, MathType The WordToEPUB software does have a laTex to EPUB converter, and it does the math as well. You can also go to clean HTML Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 10:07 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Pandoc, EquatIO, Grind EQ, MathType Well, since I produce an awful lot of accessible math? There is no way but the manual labor way, for the most part. It is possible with MathType to convert the LaTex into MathML, although I?ve not done that in several years and I believe there are some issues in doing it. MathType is a cumbersome process, but will produce the best output, and with html files, anyone can use them. Visually they can look as nice as a PDF, with a bit of work on the front end. I do applaud the professor who is wanting to take this on. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image003.png@01D799B1.B2A88A50] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Krista Greear Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 4:06 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Pandoc, EquatIO, Grind EQ, MathType I met with a math professor who is authoring a Linear Algebra book and wants to make it available via OER. The book is already constructed in LaTeX (about 300 pages). The current plan is to distribute it as a PDF because it's visually appealing. But the professor is concerned about accessibility and is willing to change formats / do some reasonable amount of work to make it so. That said, they have already looked at Pandoc and found it to be too complicated. MathType would require a lot of time to re-create each equation/expression (or even just copying/pasting the LaTeX into MathType). EquatIO is a similar story. No comments on Grind EQ's potential. What are your best recommendations for this professor? What else am I missing? Krista -- Krista Greear Accessibility and Inclusivity Crusader ATHEN Executive Council Vice President Access Technology Higher Education Network -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2973 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From hunziker at arizona.edu Wed Aug 25 13:19:16 2021 From: hunziker at arizona.edu (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) Date: Wed Aug 25 13:19:44 2021 Subject: [Athen] Tool for typing/scribing math and science In-Reply-To: <851652bdb4e54078ad997188df4aa3ee@disability.tamu.edu> References: <851652bdb4e54078ad997188df4aa3ee@disability.tamu.edu> Message-ID: Hi Justin, We've had students use a touchscreen device (like an iPad or Surface) and a notepad option where they can use a part of their hand, finger, etc. to write equations without a lot of pressure required for writing. I'm not sure this will meet the needs of the student but it's an option that may work. Dawn Dawn Hunziker Assistant Director, Digital and Physical Access | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Romack, Justin Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 10:35 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT][Athen] Tool for typing/scribing math and science External Email Howdy y?all! I?m working with a student who has difficulty with hand/eye coordination and, as a result, has issues with legibility of their hand-written text. This student is in an Engineering program and will be taking Calculus this fall. We looked at Equat.IO and the student had concerns it may not include support for notation/symbols for Calculus-level mathematics. Can anyone speak to this concern? If not Equat.IO, are there other tools we should look into? The student can type and use a mouse, so we?re not necessarily looking at Dragon or speech-to-text. Grateful for any direction you can provide, wonderful colleagues! Best, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Wed Aug 25 16:35:07 2021 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype@gmail.com) Date: Wed Aug 25 16:36:02 2021 Subject: [Athen] Tool for typing/scribing math and science In-Reply-To: <851652bdb4e54078ad997188df4aa3ee@disability.tamu.edu> References: <851652bdb4e54078ad997188df4aa3ee@disability.tamu.edu> Message-ID: Justin, a couple of ideas come to mind. You might try Panther Math with an iPad ( https://www.ctdinstitute.org/library/2014-10-23/panther-math-paper). There used to be a fairly simple program called virtual pencil/virtual algebra but I think it's fallen into the cave of antiquities. If the student is able to type, even one fingered, MathType might work. If the student needs to work at a faster pace with more volume, I strongly recommend using dictation software for math. If you can lay your hands on a copy of MathType with Scientific Notebook & Dragon NaturallySpeaking I know firsthand that it will work seamlessly up to the level that you indicate your student needs to be able to use. And there is no difficulty in the correct complicated function signs needed. The student can compose using dictation, and a copy can be printed out and were sent to the instructor with the flawless clean typography that Scientific Notebook puts out. You might also reach out directly to John Gardner who lurks on our list and occasionally response :-). He's an excellent resource for technology for math. Let me (or any of us) know if you need more help on any of this and we can troubleshoot/brainstorm some more. TTFN, Wink Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 10:36 AM Romack, Justin wrote: > Howdy y?all! > > > > I?m working with a student who has difficulty with hand/eye coordination > and, as a result, has issues with legibility of their hand-written text. > > > > This student is in an Engineering program and will be taking Calculus this > fall. We looked at Equat.IO and the student had concerns it may not include > support for notation/symbols for Calculus-level mathematics. Can anyone > speak to this concern? > > > > If not Equat.IO, are there other tools we should look into? The student > can type and use a mouse, so we?re not necessarily looking at Dragon or > speech-to-text. > > > > Grateful for any direction you can provide, wonderful colleagues! > > > > Best, > > J > > > > > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > *Justin Romack* | Assistive Technology Coordinator > > Disability Resources | Texas A&M University > > 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 > > > > ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > *DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS *| One Division. One Mission. > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There are many benefits to working with UNT, including fully paid insurance for the employee and Texas does not tax employee wages. _________________________________________________________________ +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT *she, her, hers* Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu Thu Aug 26 18:06:45 2021 From: Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu (Kluesner, Bryon) Date: Thu Aug 26 18:06:56 2021 Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil speech to text using an iPad Message-ID: Hi all, I am familiar with and recommend the speech to text option in "write" for PC users within the desktop Kurzweil 3000. Can anyone provide directions on how to use this feature on an iPad? My Kurzweil rep suggested I go to kurzweil3000.com, but I didn't know where to go from there. On a side note, the student does not like Dragon. Any other speech to text programs you can recommend? Thanks, Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 352 University Center Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any other speech to text > programs you can recommend? > > Thanks, > > Bryon > > Bryon Kluesner, RhD > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > Disability Resource Center > University of Tennessee at Chattanooga > 352 University Center > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > 423-425-5251 > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Wink Harner Assistive Technology Consulting and Training Alternative Text Production Portland OR. foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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One Mission From: athen-list On Behalf Of tristenbreitenfeldt@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 2:43 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] Tool for typing/scribing math and science Hi Justin, While it is important for your office to accommodate this student with technology and other accessible tools, It might be better for this student in the long run to learn to write/read LaTeX. This is a robust language which should provide the student with all of the mathematical/Scientific notation they need both in school and in their eventual career. So, you might consider gently suggesting that the student begin learning LaTeX. While learning this language on top of their classes is indeed going to be difficult, it will most definitely be of benefit. Tristen Breitenfeldt [JAWS Certified, 2019] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Disability Services, Technology Specialist Pellissippi State Community College 865-694-6751 865-539-7699 (fax) Schedule a training East TN Region Accessibility Specialist Tenessee Board of Regents-TN eCampus PSCC Access for All Blog PSCC Accessible Format Facebook Page (PSCC-Disability Services) PSCC Access4All Twitter Feed (@Access4allPSCC) From: athen-list On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 9:07 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [External] [Athen] Kurzweil speech to text using an iPad CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi all, I am familiar with and recommend the speech to text option in "write" for PC users within the desktop Kurzweil 3000. Can anyone provide directions on how to use this feature on an iPad? My Kurzweil rep suggested I go to kurzweil3000.com, but I didn't know where to go from there. On a side note, the student does not like Dragon. Any other speech to text programs you can recommend? Thanks, Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 352 University Center Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu Fri Aug 27 10:43:49 2021 From: Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu (Kluesner, Bryon) Date: Fri Aug 27 10:43:58 2021 Subject: [Athen] [External] Kurzweil speech to text using an iPad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Alice, I have bookmarked the site for future review. Have a nice weekend. Bryon Bryon Kluesner RhD, ATAC Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 615 McCallie Ave., Dept. 2953 Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 Member of Division of Enrollment Management and Student Affairs From: athen-list On Behalf Of Wershing, Alice D. Sent: Friday, August 27, 2021 8:52 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] [External] Kurzweil speech to text using an iPad Hello, Look at this information on how to use Kurzweil on different devices. Alice Alice D. Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P., C.P.A.C.C. Disability Services, Technology Specialist Pellissippi State Community College 865-694-6751 865-539-7699 (fax) Schedule a training East TN Region Accessibility Specialist Tenessee Board of Regents-TN eCampus PSCC Access for All Blog PSCC Accessible Format Facebook Page (PSCC-Disability Services) PSCC Access4All Twitter Feed (@Access4allPSCC) From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 9:07 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [External] [Athen] Kurzweil speech to text using an iPad CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. 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Publisher swears there is no electronic copy except a costly purchasable one on Inkling. Student has a physical hard copy of the book, and has shown it to me. The ISBN doesn't even pull this book up on Amazon or Google. Thanks! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 Pronouns: He / Him / His This communication may contain privileged, non-public or other confidential information. If you have received it in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and immediately delete the message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the contents. Thank you. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:46 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Anyone have files for... Human Spaceflight: Mission Analysis & Design 2nd ed by Larson? I have the first, but not the second. Publisher swears there is no electronic copy except a costly purchasable one on Inkling. Student has a physical hard copy of the book, and has shown it to me. The ISBN doesn't even pull this book up on Amazon or Google. Thanks! 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ATN denied the request, saying they were not the copyholder, so I found the copyholder and requested from them and got a denial too. -Susan From: athen-list On Behalf Of Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 11:39 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Anyone have files for... Hey Susan, Guessing the publisher declined you through Access Text, but just in case I did find the book through a Title search in A.T. It looks like the same book, but like you said, I can't find the book on Amazon or Google, so not 100% sure it's the same book. Human Spaceflight: Mission Analysis and Design, 2nd Edition Larson ISBN-10: 1733167900 ISBN-13: 9781733167901 (c) 2015 Publisher: McGraw Hill Thanks, Eric Matson | Assistive Technology Specialist Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho Phone: 208.885.6307 | atext@uidaho.edu| Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 Pronouns: He / Him / His This communication may contain privileged, non-public or other confidential information. If you have received it in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and immediately delete the message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the contents. Thank you. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:46 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Anyone have files for... Human Spaceflight: Mission Analysis & Design 2nd ed by Larson? I have the first, but not the second. Publisher swears there is no electronic copy except a costly purchasable one on Inkling. Student has a physical hard copy of the book, and has shown it to me. The ISBN doesn't even pull this book up on Amazon or Google. Thanks! Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D79D97.BD0AC0A0] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 8916 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu Mon Aug 30 16:52:34 2021 From: Bryon-Kluesner at utc.edu (Kluesner, Bryon) Date: Mon Aug 30 16:53:02 2021 Subject: [Athen] [External] Kurzweil speech to text using an iPad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Alice, Thanks for the link. Are you familiar with this aspect of Kurzweil? I have been able to demo on the PC side, but not with the IOS or on an iPad. If you have been able to demo this to students, can I connect with you tomorrow for a brief demo? I want to show a student on Thursday this feature. I am free at 10, 1:30, 3, or 3:30 if you have time. Thanks, Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 352 University Center Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Wershing, Alice D. Sent: Friday, August 27, 2021 8:52 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] [External] Kurzweil speech to text using an iPad Hello, Look at this information on how to use Kurzweil on different devices. Alice Alice D. Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P., C.P.A.C.C. Disability Services, Technology Specialist Pellissippi State Community College 865-694-6751 865-539-7699 (fax) Schedule a training East TN Region Accessibility Specialist Tenessee Board of Regents-TN eCampus PSCC Access for All Blog PSCC Accessible Format Facebook Page (PSCC-Disability Services) PSCC Access4All Twitter Feed (@Access4allPSCC) From: athen-list On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 9:07 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [External] [Athen] Kurzweil speech to text using an iPad CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi all, I am familiar with and recommend the speech to text option in "write" for PC users within the desktop Kurzweil 3000. Can anyone provide directions on how to use this feature on an iPad? My Kurzweil rep suggested I go to kurzweil3000.com, but I didn't know where to go from there. On a side note, the student does not like Dragon. Any other speech to text programs you can recommend? Thanks, Bryon Bryon Kluesner, RhD Adaptive Technology Coordinator Disability Resource Center University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 352 University Center Chattanooga, TN 37403 423-425-5251 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lorilane at illinois.edu Tue Aug 31 10:38:21 2021 From: lorilane at illinois.edu (Lane, Lori) Date: Tue Aug 31 10:38:27 2021 Subject: [Athen] BTAA institutions using Ally, anyone? Message-ID: Good afternoon! Does anyone in Big Ten Conference want to identify themselves (name of institution) using Blackboard's Ally? Online learning has increased and remains to be in demand. We need to know how many schools in the Big Ten are using it. We may consider moving in that direction. Thank you! Lori ------- Lori Lane, M.Ed. 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Under supervision, with considerable latitude for independent initiative and judgment, the Assistive Technology Specialist will test applications and services to ensure their accessibility, participate in the procurement of technologies, train CIS personnel in accessibility guidelines, and conduct research and recommend tools and services to ensure accessibility for students, faculty and staff with different disabilities. The Specialist will also provide guidance and training on websites and other CUNY-generated content both within CIS and the Central Office. Finally, the Specialist will serve on the CUNY Technology Accessibility Task Force in developing and fulfilling recommendations to ensure accessibility CUNY-wide. Please note: I'm not involved with this search, but just passing it along as a favor to my colleagues at Central Office. 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It's still about a year out, but I'm not sure we could both finish the book and implement the LaTeX to docx in that time frame; it seems pretty labor intensive. I do really like the idea of making the tex files more readable. Any student using a reader and taking this particular linear algebra course will eventually need to know LaTeX anyway. Our code files are already conveniently broken up according to the book sections. I think we could pretty easily clean up the code to make reading it easier and create a quick "how-to-use-LaTeX" guide for students to include with the tex files." *Krista's Comments* Yes, we all would love all faculty everywhere to create accessible-born STEM content without an accommodation request. However, is it reasonable to ask them to do this in an independent, proactive manner, when there is so much variety amongst a11y professional recommendations, individual student situations, and types of content? They need to be subject matter experts, researchers, teaching experts, technology experts, and now also accessibility experts? All while teaching 3-5 courses often with no TA support? And during a pandemic to boot? This is how THEY see the situation, which I think is extremely valid. In short, I can both be extremely protective of faculty member's time AND still encourage them to proactively make STEM content accessible to whatever extent they can when there is not an accommodation request. On a less preachy note, the prof expressed appreciation for everyone's input and "*a**ll of these ideas are going to be super helpful for faculty here!*" Thanks for the follow up question, Krista On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 3:34 PM Monica Olsson wrote: > > Hi Krista, > > I am hoping for an update -- what did you and the professors end up doing? > ? > > > > [image: Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass] > > *Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers)* > > Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator > > Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges > > *molsson@sbctc.edu * ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: > 206-914-7187 > > sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington > ? Facebook: @WASBCTC > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 6:05 PM Krista Greear < krista@inclusiveinstructionaldesign.com> wrote: > I met with a math professor who is authoring a Linear Algebra book and > wants to make it available via OER. The book is already constructed in > LaTeX (about 300 pages). The current plan is to distribute it as a PDF > because it's visually appealing. But the professor is concerned about > accessibility and is willing to change formats / do some reasonable amount > of work to make it so. > > That said, they have already looked at Pandoc and found it to be too > complicated. MathType would require a lot of time to re-create each > equation/expression (or even just copying/pasting the LaTeX into MathType). > EquatIO is a similar story. No comments on Grind EQ's potential. > > What are your best recommendations for this professor? What else am I > missing? > > Krista > > -- > Krista Greear > Accessibility and Inclusivity Crusader > ATHEN Executive Council Vice President > Access Technology Higher Education Network > -- Krista Greear Accessibility and Inclusivity Crusader ?ATHEN Executive Council Vice President? Access Technology Higher Education Network -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Jeremy.Zhe-Heimerman at cortland.edu Tue Aug 31 13:38:58 2021 From: Jeremy.Zhe-Heimerman at cortland.edu (Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman) Date: Tue Aug 31 13:39:03 2021 Subject: [Athen] Livescribe Echo with Macs Message-ID: Hi folks, We still have a number of Echo pens we are loaning out to students. I guess COVID has put off this reality for us, but as Apple phased out USB-A on their Macs, we are now realizing that our students with Macs cannot connect the Echo to their Macs unless they have a USB-A adapter. How is everyone else handling this? Are you loaning out USB-C to USB adapters with your pens? USB-C to Micro B cables that plug directly from the Echo to a Mac? Has anyone run into problems with one or the other? Thanks! Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman (he, him, his) Assistant Director, Disability Resources SUNY Cortland Memorial Library, Room B-204 P.O. 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