From solowoniukr at macewan.ca Wed Feb 2 09:48:58 2022 From: solowoniukr at macewan.ca (Russell Solowoniuk) Date: Wed Feb 2 09:49:32 2022 Subject: [Athen] Best practices for captioning videos? Message-ID: Hi everyone, We have been contacted by a professor who is redoing an online course. The prof is creating 15 minute talks with captions, and is wondering what technology is the best to use. Is it best to use Kaltura and have captions at the bottom of the screen, or a program like Descript where there is a full script beside the video that is highlighted as you go. Or, is there something better to use? Thanks for any suggestions. Best regards, Russell Russell Solowoniuk AT Educational Assistant, Access and Disability Resources MacEwan University 7-164K, 10700-104 Ave. Edmonton, AB T5J 4S2 E: solowoniukr@macewan.ca T: 780-497-5826 F: 780-497-4018 macewan.ca [MacEwan Logo] This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential, personal, and/or privileged information. Please contact me immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. Please consider the environment before printing this email We acknowledge that the land on which we gather in Treaty Six Territory is the traditional gathering place for many Indigenous people. 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Thanks, Russell From: athen-list On Behalf Of Lucy GRECO Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2022 12:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network ; The EDUCAUSE IT Accessibility Constituent Group Listserv Subject: [Athen] zoom tost messages not getting focus for screenreader EXTERNAL: Use caution. hello: i am have problems lately with zoom not focusing the informational tost message like this meeting is beeing record or streemed that you have to acknowledge. when i join a meeting that has one or more of these types of event and brings up the ok dialog its not focus auomaticly for the screen reader. the problem is before i click ok i am muted and it will not let me unmuit until i acknowledge that dialg that i don't even know is there. has any one else see this condition. i have been botted out of creatal meetings because they could not here me and did not think i was there so i want to check if any one else has seen this first before reporting it thanks lucy Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lgreco at berkeley.edu Wed Feb 2 12:14:58 2022 From: lgreco at berkeley.edu (Lucy GRECO) Date: Wed Feb 2 12:16:00 2022 Subject: [Athen] zoom tost messages not getting focus for screenreader In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: sadly it does not do that if your using nvda it needed me to alt tab to here that Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 12:08 PM Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > Hi Lucy, > > > > Yes, I had that happen to me just the other day. Luckily I pressed the tab > key and then JAWS read the message about the meeting being recorded and I > was then able to tab to the OK button. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Russell > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Lucy GRECO > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 2, 2022 12:55 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu>; The EDUCAUSE IT Accessibility Constituent > Group Listserv > *Subject:* [Athen] zoom tost messages not getting focus for screenreader > > > > *EXTERNAL:* Use caution. > > > > > hello: > > i am have problems lately with zoom not focusing the informational tost > message like this meeting is beeing record or streemed that you have to > acknowledge. when i join a meeting that has one or more of these types of > event and brings up the ok dialog its not focus auomaticly for the screen > reader. > > the problem is before i click ok i am muted and it will not let me unmuit > until i acknowledge that dialg that i don't even know is there. has any one > else see this condition. i have been botted out of creatal meetings because > they could not here me and did not think i was there so i want to check if > any one else has seen this first before reporting it thanks lucy > > > > *Berkeley IT* > > *Lucy Greco*, Web Accessibility Evangelist > > Campus IT Experience > Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | > https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces > > *We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate.* > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lgreco at berkeley.edu Thu Feb 3 15:16:44 2022 From: lgreco at berkeley.edu (Lucy GRECO) Date: Thu Feb 3 15:17:57 2022 Subject: [Athen] airtable Message-ID: hello: does any one have information about airtable accessibility the quick search on the web sowed the sails pick i want the facts is it or is it not accessible or is it accessible with lots of work thanks. i need a fast turnaround on this one i i appreciate any help thanks lucy Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. 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Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd From: athen-list On Behalf Of Lucy GRECO Sent: 03 February 2022 23:17 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] airtable hello: does any one have information about airtable accessibility the quick search on the web sowed the sails pick i want the facts is it or is it not accessible or is it accessible with lots of work thanks. i need a fast turnaround on this one i i appreciate any help thanks lucy Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dkrahmer at colgate.edu Fri Feb 4 01:26:44 2022 From: dkrahmer at colgate.edu (Debbie Krahmer) Date: Fri Feb 4 01:27:03 2022 Subject: [Athen] airtable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A conference I attended in March or April 2021 used Air tables for the schedule, and I couldn't access it with NVDA beyond the very first two items listed, and even then it didn't read all the information (I got titles of the session but not days or times). Search didn't work, scroll didn't work, tabbing didn't work. The conference sent me a spreadsheet instead. Thanks, D. On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 8:37 PM Steve Green wrote: > One of our clients had several Airtables embedded in their website when we > tested it in September 2020. We reported non-conformances with the > following WCAG success criteria: > > > > 1.1.1 ? non-text content > > 1.3.2 ? meaningful sequence > > 2.1.1 ? keyboard navigation > > 2.4.3 ? focus order > > 2.4.4 ? link purpose in context > > 1.4.3 ? colour contrast > > 1.4.4 ? resize text > > 2.4.7 ? focus visible > > > > I don?t know if this is representative of all Airtable output because we > did not have access to the authoring environment to create content of our > own. The client has since removed all the Airtables from their website > rather than attempting to fix them, so I suspect that remediation was not > possible. > > > > Steve Green > > Managing Director > > Test Partners Ltd > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Lucy GRECO > *Sent:* 03 February 2022 23:17 > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] airtable > > > > hello: does any one have information about airtable accessibility the > quick search on the web sowed the sails pick i want the facts is it or is > it not accessible or is it accessible with lots of work thanks. i need a > fast turnaround on this one i i appreciate any help thanks lucy > > > > *Berkeley IT* > > *Lucy Greco*, Web Accessibility Evangelist > > Campus IT Experience > Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | > https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces > > *We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate.* > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lgreco at berkeley.edu Fri Feb 4 09:00:27 2022 From: lgreco at berkeley.edu (Lucy GRECO) Date: Fri Feb 4 09:01:28 2022 Subject: [Athen] airtable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: thanks somuch this helps immensely Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 1:27 AM Debbie Krahmer wrote: > A conference I attended in March or April 2021 used Air tables for the > schedule, and I couldn't access it with NVDA beyond the very first two > items listed, and even then it didn't read all the information (I got > titles of the session but not days or times). Search didn't work, scroll > didn't work, tabbing didn't work. The conference sent me a spreadsheet > instead. > > Thanks, > D. > > On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 8:37 PM Steve Green > wrote: > >> One of our clients had several Airtables embedded in their website when >> we tested it in September 2020. We reported non-conformances with the >> following WCAG success criteria: >> >> >> >> 1.1.1 ? non-text content >> >> 1.3.2 ? meaningful sequence >> >> 2.1.1 ? keyboard navigation >> >> 2.4.3 ? focus order >> >> 2.4.4 ? link purpose in context >> >> 1.4.3 ? colour contrast >> >> 1.4.4 ? resize text >> >> 2.4.7 ? focus visible >> >> >> >> I don?t know if this is representative of all Airtable output because we >> did not have access to the authoring environment to create content of our >> own. The client has since removed all the Airtables from their website >> rather than attempting to fix them, so I suspect that remediation was not >> possible. >> >> >> >> Steve Green >> >> Managing Director >> >> Test Partners Ltd >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list *On >> Behalf Of *Lucy GRECO >> *Sent:* 03 February 2022 23:17 >> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < >> athen-list@u.washington.edu> >> *Subject:* [Athen] airtable >> >> >> >> hello: does any one have information about airtable accessibility the >> quick search on the web sowed the sails pick i want the facts is it or is >> it not accessible or is it accessible with lots of work thanks. i need a >> fast turnaround on this one i i appreciate any help thanks lucy >> >> >> >> *Berkeley IT* >> >> *Lucy Greco*, Web Accessibility Evangelist >> >> Campus IT Experience >> Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | >> https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces >> >> *We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate.* >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu Fri Feb 4 10:59:45 2022 From: Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu (Stager, Catherine) Date: Fri Feb 4 11:00:04 2022 Subject: [Athen] Best practices for captioning videos? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Russell, I would suggest that he use the standard captioning pattern. The syncing of the caption and the speech is crucial for some users. Timed transcripts with links to places within the movie are very nice, but matching the basic expectations of two lines of captioning per screen should be available. Using .VTT files for the captioning is my preferred default. With tools like Chrome's built-in Live Caption, folks who want them to display in other manners can do so. It's great if you have a tool that can toggle between the cc and the timed transcripts, but you don't want to force folks into an unexpected environment. I don't know what tools you use by default or where your videos live, but I have always been a fan of using players that give you the option to switch between the different displays or allow you to show both. Able Player (thank you Terrill Thompson!) , of course, is fantastic for this flexibility, accessibility, and user friendliness. Accessibility Oz's ozplayer is free for non-profit use and offers similar benefits. Just checked out the Descript video Introducing Descript and they have very poor captioning on it... Can't say I will look any further into what they offer. Best regards, Cath Catherine M. Stager Disability Support Services - Assistive Technology Create Inclusive E-mail and Materials https://bit.ly/inclusive-checklist Getting Started Guides bit.ly/usingyourtech From: athen-list On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2022 10:49 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] Best practices for captioning videos? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Hi everyone, We have been contacted by a professor who is redoing an online course. The prof is creating 15 minute talks with captions, and is wondering what technology is the best to use. Is it best to use Kaltura and have captions at the bottom of the screen, or a program like Descript where there is a full script beside the video that is highlighted as you go. Or, is there something better to use? Thanks for any suggestions. Best regards, Russell Russell Solowoniuk AT Educational Assistant, Access and Disability Resources MacEwan University 7-164K, 10700-104 Ave. Edmonton, AB T5J 4S2 E: solowoniukr@macewan.ca T: 780-497-5826 F: 780-497-4018 macewan.ca [MacEwan Logo] This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential, personal, and/or privileged information. Please contact me immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. 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I can read equations from a variety of sources, and the Nemeth is mostly good. My primary concern at the moment is that VoiceOver won't include any parentheses in its braille translation. I've tried adjusting my braille settings and my verbosity settings, but I've had no luck. I'm looking at MathML in an EPUB format and the sample expressions from the MathJax website. When I read the same content with JAWs, the Nemeth is better. I'm also looking for a good way for students to write in Nemeth and then have that content converted to print. JAWS does this very well with Microsoft Word, but I'm struggling to find a comparable alternative for iPad users. Desmos will accept Nemeth entry, but I'm hoping to find a way for students to show their work in a multi-step problem. I'm all ears! Thanks for your help. 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Hi Russell, I would suggest that he use the standard captioning pattern. The syncing of the caption and the speech is crucial for some users. Timed transcripts with links to places within the movie are very nice, but matching the basic expectations of two lines of captioning per screen should be available. Using .VTT files for the captioning is my preferred default. With tools like Chrome's built-in Live Caption, folks who want them to display in other manners can do so. It's great if you have a tool that can toggle between the cc and the timed transcripts, but you don't want to force folks into an unexpected environment. I don't know what tools you use by default or where your videos live, but I have always been a fan of using players that give you the option to switch between the different displays or allow you to show both. Able Player (thank you Terrill Thompson!) , of course, is fantastic for this flexibility, accessibility, and user friendliness. Accessibility Oz's ozplayer is free for non-profit use and offers similar benefits. Just checked out the Descript video Introducing Descript and they have very poor captioning on it... Can't say I will look any further into what they offer. Best regards, Cath Catherine M. Stager Disability Support Services - Assistive Technology Create Inclusive E-mail and Materials https://bit.ly/inclusive-checklist Getting Started Guides bit.ly/usingyourtech From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2022 10:49 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) > Subject: [Athen] Best practices for captioning videos? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Hi everyone, We have been contacted by a professor who is redoing an online course. The prof is creating 15 minute talks with captions, and is wondering what technology is the best to use. Is it best to use Kaltura and have captions at the bottom of the screen, or a program like Descript where there is a full script beside the video that is highlighted as you go. Or, is there something better to use? Thanks for any suggestions. Best regards, Russell Russell Solowoniuk AT Educational Assistant, Access and Disability Resources MacEwan University 7-164K, 10700-104 Ave. Edmonton, AB T5J 4S2 E: solowoniukr@macewan.ca T: 780-497-5826 F: 780-497-4018 macewan.ca [MacEwan Logo] This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential, personal, and/or privileged information. Please contact me immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. Please consider the environment before printing this email We acknowledge that the land on which we gather in Treaty Six Territory is the traditional gathering place for many Indigenous people. We honour and respect the history, languages, ceremonies and culture of the First Nations, M?tis and Inuit who call this territory home. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3516 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From tlmarzewski at asub.edu Mon Feb 7 07:04:35 2022 From: tlmarzewski at asub.edu (Tisha L. Marzewski) Date: Mon Feb 7 07:04:48 2022 Subject: [Athen] Call for Proposals- Virtual Accessibility Summer Camp 2022 Message-ID: Call for Proposals - Accessibility Summer Camp 2022 We are looking for presentations from all experience levels and backgrounds, so please check out the ASC Conference home page to learn more and submit a proposal. Proposals are due by Monday, February 28, 2022. We would love for you to share your knowledge of accessibility at our free, virtual 2022 Accessibility Summer Camp (ASC)! This conference will take place on Friday, June 17, 2022 in Central Daylight Time. You will also be able to participate in other sessions and network with like-minded professionals. We are excited to announce that our keynote speakers will be Michael Vermeersch, Accessibility Product Manager and Digital Inclusion Lead for Microsoft UK, and Susi Miller, eLearning accessibility expert, author, and consultant. What is Accessibility Summer Camp? 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As big as they are, they can't seem to even bother to answer an email. I've sent four requests for the same book, with crickets in return... Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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All the best, Christopher Christopher Leydon, PhD (he, him, his) Associate Director of Student Services CUNY School of Professional Studies 15 Years of Leading Online Education at CUNY P. 646-664-8616 E. Christopher.Leydon@cuny.edu [CUNY Accessibility Conference logo] 13th Annual CUNY Accessibility Conference The State of Accessibility: Are We Living Up to the Promise of Compliance and the Law? Four Day Virtual Event, 2022 Monday, April 11th Tuesday, April 12th Wednesday, April 13th Thursday, April 14th Call for Proposals Each year, the CUNY Accessibility Conference brings together hundreds of participants from the New York City region and across North America to discuss accessibility, disability services and disability activism in the context of postsecondary education. Two years after the start of an unprecedented pandemic and resultant transitions nationwide, we are returning to our foundation. The conference theme for 2022 is The State of Accessibility: Are we living up to the promise of compliance and the law? With this theme we hope to reflect topics such as on meeting the promise, falling short, advancements the law did not anticipate, and moving beyond a legal framework of accessibility. Suggested Topics We invite proposals for engaging presentations that will foster meaningful discussion on topics including, but not limited to: * Current state of ADA * 30+ year: history of ADA * Transitioning from IDEA to ADA * ADA for international students * Beyond the law: disability frameworks * Disability justice * Legal intersections * New barriers, new solutions * Promoting and facilitating accessibility across all institutional functions * Concerning complaints and considering compliance * Section 14(c) of the FLSA * SSDI: forced poverty * WCAG compliance * Student involvement in establishing policy and practice to ensure compliance * Knowing who we serve * The role of creativity in achieving compliance * Perils and promise of the virtual environment * Tools and methods for tracking compliance We are particularly interested in detailed proposals for presentations that: * seek to engage the audience via remote platforms (discussions, breakout rooms, surveys/polls, collaborative tools, etc.) * feature cross-disciplinary work Submit your Proposal Please fill out our Call for Proposals form. Proposals are due by February 21st. Presentations will be 60 minutes long along with an extra 15 minutes for questions and answers (total 75 minutes). You will be notified by the committee regarding the acceptance of your proposal by March 8th. For questions, please email Tania Kalaitzidis at akalaitzidis@qcc.cuny.edu. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 94666 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Tue Feb 8 09:37:46 2022 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Tue Feb 8 09:37:59 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] Anyone have a contact for Scholastic? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No, I've had the same results the last two semesters. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 9:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network ; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: [EXT][Athen] Anyone have a contact for Scholastic? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Has anyone had any luck getting files from Scholastic? As big as they are, they can't seem to even bother to answer an email. I've sent four requests for the same book, with crickets in return... Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D81CE0.4A9D1450] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 8916 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From kdw2yeth at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 09:39:03 2022 From: kdw2yeth at gmail.com (K Wyeth) Date: Tue Feb 8 09:39:32 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] Anyone have a contact for Scholastic? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 12:38 PM Robert Beach wrote: > No, I?ve had the same results the last two semesters. > > > > > > *Robert Lee Beach* > > *Assistive Technology Specialist* ? Student Accessibility & Support > Services > > > > *Kansas City Kansas Community College* > > 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 > > > O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 > > rbeach@kckcc.edu > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Susan Kelmer > *Sent:* Monday, February 7, 2022 9:54 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu>; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > *Subject:* [EXT][Athen] Anyone have a contact for Scholastic? > > > > *CAUTION:** This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or > open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all > suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu .* > > Has anyone had any luck getting files from Scholastic? As big as they > are, they can?t seem to even bother to answer an email. I?ve sent four > requests for the same book, with crickets in return? > > > > *Susan Kelmer * > > Alternate Format Production Program Manager > > Disability Services > > Division of Student Affairs > > *T* 303 735 4836 > > *www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices > > * > > > > > > > > *Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this > message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please > notify the sender immediately and delete this message. * > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It wasn't until I removed all the tags under the tag that I was able to get a coherent TOCI item read by the screen readers. So the syntax best practices guide creates an inaccessible TOCI. I looked at their example and it was set up like the problematic one at the start of this post. The fix - remove the tags completely: tags in a TOCI...It breaks the TOCI. It is read as it should be without the Alt Text. Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lissner.2 at osu.edu Wed Feb 9 11:06:00 2022 From: lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, L. Scott) Date: Wed Feb 9 11:06:15 2022 Subject: [Athen] Position Opening: Deputy ADA Coordinator, Dir. Digital Access Center In-Reply-To: <46BB4A1D-147D-4DF3-B7F7-7F4B78F5CCE5@osu.edu> References: <46BB4A1D-147D-4DF3-B7F7-7F4B78F5CCE5@osu.edu> Message-ID: <4A0395CE-3D95-47A2-AFEC-F83EB835AE5E@osu.edu> Please Share: Join our collaborative team that reaches across the university and into our communities to promote access, equity and engagement to move the university beyond compliance and toward seamless access. Deputy ADA Coordinator & Director of the Digital Access Center, The Ohio State University, Columbus Ohio Job Requisition Number: R39551 Application Assistance: General assistance with the application process can be found in our frequently asked questions. Screen reader users may encounter difficulty with this site if so please contact hr-accessibleapplication@osu.edu. 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Job Title: Deputy ADA Coordinator Department: Office of Institutional Equity | ADA Coordinator Job Description: Under the direction of the ADA Coordinator & 504 Compliance Officer, the Deputy ADA Coordinator for Digital Accessibility will lead the university's digital accessibility compliance efforts while exercising a high level of decision making and autonomy; provide strategic leadership, oversight, and technical advice to campus units in developing and implementing policy requirements such as digital access strategies, reporting, training, and purchasing standards/controls; maintain and advise on changes to the Ohio State Minimum Digital Accessibility Standards, which are implementation guidelines for the Ohio State Digital Accessibility Policy; in collaboration with partners in the Office of the CIO, Office of Distance Education and eLearning, Office of Marketing and Communications, and other campus units, leads the evaluation of high risk digital information and services being developed, considered for purchase, or implemented on campus for compliance with the university's Digital Accessibility Policy; assists campus units in understanding their obligations under the policy, and guides developers and vendors of digital content, services, and applications on accessible design and development practices; in collaboration with the Director of Disability Service, promptly responds to complaints or issues (both formal and informal) regarding digital information or services that the University is responsible for under the Digital Accessibility Policy; responsible for supervising additional specialist support staff who will support Ohio State digital accessibility initiatives; leads selection and implementation of campus-wide accessibility tools and training; maintains knowledge of current and emerging accessible development practices and trends; serves as primary representative to the Big Ten Academic Alliance Information Technology Accessibility Group and other appropriate industry organizations. Required: Bachelor's degree in Computer Science, Information Technology, Management Information Systems or related field. OR an equivalent combination of education and experience; at least 7 years of experience producing accessible websites, native applications, or evaluating products for digital accessibility; extensive experience in systems design, analysis and implementation of large scale, technical projects; considerable knowledge of national industry trends in accessibility; strong understanding of HTML, CSS, JavaScript, WAI-ARIA, the W3C Web Content Accessibility Guidelines, and Section 508 requirements. Excellent verbal and written communication skills. Must be a motivated self-starter and be able to work independently with minimal oversight. Deep understanding of tools to aid in accessibility evaluation. Experience testing for accessibility barriers in Web, Mobile, and Native applications. Experience leading or guiding the development of accessible digital content, websites, web applications, or native mobile applications. Significant knowledge of current and emerging accessible development practices and assistive technologies, web and application development trends, and digital accessibility regulatory issues as they relate to higher education. Desired: Master's degree in a related field, OR equivalent combination of education and experience; 8-10 years of experience producing high quality accessible websites, native applications, or evaluating products for digital accessibility; an understanding and passion for accessibility issues. Significant front end web development experience; experience working with people with disabilities; experience using assistive technologies; experience planning and leading technical training sessions; experience in regulatory compliance; an understanding of UDL and instructional design; experience leading technical teams. Duties: 30% Lead digital accessibility compliance efforts: Provide strategic leadership, oversight, and technical advice to campus units in developing and implementing policy requirements; Advise on updates to the Ohio State Digital Accessibility Policy; Maintain and advise on changes to the Ohio State Minimum Digital Accessibility Standards. 30% Lead the Digital Accessibility Center: Respond to complaints or issues regarding digital information or services that the University is responsible for under the Digital Accessibility Policy; Assist in the planning/implementation of staff/student digital accommodation; Supervise specialist support staff and student employees within the Digital Accessibility Center; Review digital accessibility policy exception/waiver requests; Lead selection and implementation of campus-wide accessibility tools and training. 25% Act as subject matter expert: Assists campus units in understanding their obligations under policy, and guide developers and vendors of digital content, services, and applications on accessible design and development practices; Evaluate high risk digital information and services being developed, considered for purchase, or implemented on campus for compliance with the university's Digital Accessibility Policy; Maintain knowledge of current and emerging accessible development practices and trends. 15% Assist ADA Coordinator and deputies with general accommodations, compliance, and general administrative tasks; Other duties as assigned. Proposed salary range is $116,000 - $123,000 [Block ?0? Logo: The Ohio State University] L. Scott Lissner, Americans With Disabilities Act Coordinator and Section 504 Compliance Officer Office of Institutional Equity (614) 292-7024(v); (614) 688-8605(tty) (614) 688-3665(fax); Http://ada.osu.edu Updated Access Policy (1/25/2022) Give Disability Access Feedback and Report Concerns Multiple Perspectives on Access, Inclusion & Disability 2022 The Zen of Venn: Facets of Lived Experience [A multicolored graphic giving the impression of a flower that depicts the multiple overlapping identities of individuals. Long Description: 10 small circles, each a different color, surround a larger circle comprised of the colors of the surrounding circles as overlapping translucent disks forming blended hues in the shape of petals. 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I'm now looking at alternatives in case we need something more cost effective. We used Kurzweil 3000 before we moved to R&W 7 or 8 years ago. Any improvements there? I'm looking at Capti and Speechify as possible alternatives. Has anyone tried them or another alternative? I'm hoping to find something that can * be deployed to students in all operating systems, including mobile; * read PDFs and epubs, including Bookshare files; * be used in our testing center with PDF and Word files; * earn extra points for integrating nicely with Microsoft 365. Thanks for any knowledge you may have to share! Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman (he, him, his) Assistant Director, Disability Resources SUNY Cortland Memorial Library, Room B-204 P.O. Box 2000 Cortland, NY 13045-0900 O: 607-753-2358 | F: 607-753-5495 jeremy.zhe-heimerman@cortland.edu Test Administration Scheduling System | Disability Resources Homepage AccessCortland Student Portal | AccessCortland Faculty Portal Follow Us: Facebook | Twitter | Instagram Confidentiality Note: This email may contain privileged and confidential information that should not be copied or forwarded without consent. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkahrhoff at uttyler.edu Thu Feb 10 06:00:45 2022 From: mkahrhoff at uttyler.edu (Mary Kahrhoff) Date: Thu Feb 10 06:01:45 2022 Subject: [Athen] Alternatives to Read&Write In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Please post to list. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 7:36:18 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Alternatives to Read&Write Hi folks, Our IT people had difficulty negotiating a new contract for Read&Write with Texthelp this year, mainly because of increased costs, but possibly because of terms and conditions too. I?m now looking at alternatives in case we need something more cost effective. We used Kurzweil 3000 before we moved to R&W 7 or 8 years ago. Any improvements there? I?m looking at Capti and Speechify as possible alternatives. Has anyone tried them or another alternative? I?m hoping to find something that can * be deployed to students in all operating systems, including mobile; * read PDFs and epubs, including Bookshare files; * be used in our testing center with PDF and Word files; * earn extra points for integrating nicely with Microsoft 365. Thanks for any knowledge you may have to share! Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman (he, him, his) Assistant Director, Disability Resources SUNY Cortland Memorial Library, Room B-204 P.O. Box 2000 Cortland, NY 13045-0900 O: 607-753-2358 | F: 607-753-5495 jeremy.zhe-heimerman@cortland.edu Test Administration Scheduling System | Disability Resources Homepage AccessCortland Student Portal | AccessCortland Faculty Portal Follow Us: Facebook | Twitter | Instagram Confidentiality Note: This email may contain privileged and confidential information that should not be copied or forwarded without consent. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Thu Feb 10 06:38:43 2022 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Thu Feb 10 06:39:12 2022 Subject: [Athen] Alternatives to Read&Write In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We are a Kurzweil campus, and costs are a little less than TextHelp, I think. Of course we have WAY more seats than we need, which continues to be a bone of contention with me regarding both KZ and R&W. We don't need a license for every student on campus. We need licenses for less than 150 students on our campus. Our campus population is ~36K. Both of these companies need to listen to us in higher ed - we are not K-12. Anyway, Kurzweil will handle PDFs and Word files, even TIFF and Jpegs. It will handle epubs but not well, unfortunately. I usually turn ePubs into something else. Kurzweil has a plug-in for Chrome (and other browsers) but it won't read everything. The Kurzweil web-based portal will read most things, but again, ePubs are going to be a problem. You would likely be cobbling together some Frankenstein mess of apps to cover every need, unfortunately. As "born accessible" as ePubs are touted to be, they really aren't until the TTS software catches up and reads them properly. I don't dislike Kurzweil, but I wish it read math, and handle ePubs well, and give us better navigation with large PDFs, rather than us having to break them into chapters before sending them to the student. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 6:36 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Alternatives to Read&Write Hi folks, Our IT people had difficulty negotiating a new contract for Read&Write with Texthelp this year, mainly because of increased costs, but possibly because of terms and conditions too. I'm now looking at alternatives in case we need something more cost effective. We used Kurzweil 3000 before we moved to R&W 7 or 8 years ago. Any improvements there? I'm looking at Capti and Speechify as possible alternatives. Has anyone tried them or another alternative? I'm hoping to find something that can * be deployed to students in all operating systems, including mobile; * read PDFs and epubs, including Bookshare files; * be used in our testing center with PDF and Word files; * earn extra points for integrating nicely with Microsoft 365. Thanks for any knowledge you may have to share! Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman (he, him, his) Assistant Director, Disability Resources SUNY Cortland Memorial Library, Room B-204 P.O. Box 2000 Cortland, NY 13045-0900 O: 607-753-2358 | F: 607-753-5495 jeremy.zhe-heimerman@cortland.edu Test Administration Scheduling System | Disability Resources Homepage AccessCortland Student Portal | AccessCortland Faculty Portal Follow Us: Facebook | Twitter | Instagram Confidentiality Note: This email may contain privileged and confidential information that should not be copied or forwarded without consent. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 8916 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From adietrich at cornell.edu Thu Feb 10 06:43:53 2022 From: adietrich at cornell.edu (Andrea L. Dietrich) Date: Thu Feb 10 06:44:01 2022 Subject: [Athen] Alternatives to Read&Write In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We've been using Capti, but we're considering moving away from it since we've had some issues with how it reads PDF files and how it formats Word files. We're thinking of looking at Natural Reader. NaturalReader EDU - text to speech for education (naturalreaders.com) One nice thing is that you can try it out completely free, and see if it meets your specific needs. -------------------------- Andrea Dietrich She / Her / Hers Accommodation Specialist Student Disability Services Cornell University Cornell Health, Level 5 110 Ho Plaza Ithaca, NY 14853 Email: adietrich@cornell.edu Phone: (607) 254-4545 Fax: (607) 255-1562 Web: sds.cornell.edu *Please note that confidentiality of non-encrypted e-mail communication cannot be guaranteed. If you are NOT the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this message. Disclosure of any information contained in this message to someone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 9:39 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Alternatives to Read&Write We are a Kurzweil campus, and costs are a little less than TextHelp, I think. Of course we have WAY more seats than we need, which continues to be a bone of contention with me regarding both KZ and R&W. We don't need a license for every student on campus. We need licenses for less than 150 students on our campus. Our campus population is ~36K. Both of these companies need to listen to us in higher ed - we are not K-12. Anyway, Kurzweil will handle PDFs and Word files, even TIFF and Jpegs. It will handle epubs but not well, unfortunately. I usually turn ePubs into something else. Kurzweil has a plug-in for Chrome (and other browsers) but it won't read everything. The Kurzweil web-based portal will read most things, but again, ePubs are going to be a problem. You would likely be cobbling together some Frankenstein mess of apps to cover every need, unfortunately. As "born accessible" as ePubs are touted to be, they really aren't until the TTS software catches up and reads them properly. I don't dislike Kurzweil, but I wish it read math, and handle ePubs well, and give us better navigation with large PDFs, rather than us having to break them into chapters before sending them to the student. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 6:36 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Alternatives to Read&Write Hi folks, Our IT people had difficulty negotiating a new contract for Read&Write with Texthelp this year, mainly because of increased costs, but possibly because of terms and conditions too. I'm now looking at alternatives in case we need something more cost effective. We used Kurzweil 3000 before we moved to R&W 7 or 8 years ago. Any improvements there? I'm looking at Capti and Speechify as possible alternatives. Has anyone tried them or another alternative? I'm hoping to find something that can * be deployed to students in all operating systems, including mobile; * read PDFs and epubs, including Bookshare files; * be used in our testing center with PDF and Word files; * earn extra points for integrating nicely with Microsoft 365. Thanks for any knowledge you may have to share! Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman (he, him, his) Assistant Director, Disability Resources SUNY Cortland Memorial Library, Room B-204 P.O. Box 2000 Cortland, NY 13045-0900 O: 607-753-2358 | F: 607-753-5495 jeremy.zhe-heimerman@cortland.edu Test Administration Scheduling System | Disability Resources Homepage AccessCortland Student Portal | AccessCortland Faculty Portal Follow Us: Facebook | Twitter | Instagram Confidentiality Note: This email may contain privileged and confidential information that should not be copied or forwarded without consent. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 8916 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From adwershing at pstcc.edu Thu Feb 10 06:45:26 2022 From: adwershing at pstcc.edu (Wershing, Alice D.) Date: Thu Feb 10 06:45:52 2022 Subject: [Athen] [External] Re: Alternatives to Read&Write In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree with everything Susan said here. We use Kurzweil because it has some access with JAWS, but we have not tested any updates in a while. At our last test a few years ago, a blind user was unable to highlight text. For reading epubs, I have students use Thorium which is free. Dolphin Easy Reader is also free now. With etext delivered through student tuition, many of those books have built in reading tools. Some students are able to use that to read, while others will still need a version in Kurzweil for word look up and highlighting tools. Alice Schedule a training session Alice D. Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P., C.P.A.C.C. Disability Services, Technology Specialist TNecampus Accessibility Specialist Pellissippi State Technical Community College 865-694-6751 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Susan Kelmer Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 9:38 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [External] Re: [Athen] Alternatives to Read&Write CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. We are a Kurzweil campus, and costs are a little less than TextHelp, I think. Of course we have WAY more seats than we need, which continues to be a bone of contention with me regarding both KZ and R&W. We don?t need a license for every student on campus. We need licenses for less than 150 students on our campus. Our campus population is ~36K. Both of these companies need to listen to us in higher ed ? we are not K-12. Anyway, Kurzweil will handle PDFs and Word files, even TIFF and Jpegs. It will handle epubs but not well, unfortunately. I usually turn ePubs into something else. Kurzweil has a plug-in for Chrome (and other browsers) but it won?t read everything. The Kurzweil web-based portal will read most things, but again, ePubs are going to be a problem. You would likely be cobbling together some Frankenstein mess of apps to cover every need, unfortunately. As ?born accessible? as ePubs are touted to be, they really aren?t until the TTS software catches up and reads them properly. I don?t dislike Kurzweil, but I wish it read math, and handle ePubs well, and give us better navigation with large PDFs, rather than us having to break them into chapters before sending them to the student. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 6:36 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Alternatives to Read&Write Hi folks, Our IT people had difficulty negotiating a new contract for Read&Write with Texthelp this year, mainly because of increased costs, but possibly because of terms and conditions too. I?m now looking at alternatives in case we need something more cost effective. We used Kurzweil 3000 before we moved to R&W 7 or 8 years ago. Any improvements there? I?m looking at Capti and Speechify as possible alternatives. Has anyone tried them or another alternative? I?m hoping to find something that can * be deployed to students in all operating systems, including mobile; * read PDFs and epubs, including Bookshare files; * be used in our testing center with PDF and Word files; * earn extra points for integrating nicely with Microsoft 365. Thanks for any knowledge you may have to share! Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman (he, him, his) Assistant Director, Disability Resources SUNY Cortland Memorial Library, Room B-204 P.O. Box 2000 Cortland, NY 13045-0900 O: 607-753-2358 | F: 607-753-5495 jeremy.zhe-heimerman@cortland.edu Test Administration Scheduling System | Disability Resources Homepage AccessCortland Student Portal | AccessCortland Faculty Portal Follow Us: Facebook | Twitter | Instagram Confidentiality Note: This email may contain privileged and confidential information that should not be copied or forwarded without consent. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Thu Feb 10 13:08:36 2022 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Thu Feb 10 13:09:19 2022 Subject: [Athen] Accessible webinar/video conferencing software In-Reply-To: <003d01d81eb9$c15a1900$440e4b00$@pubcom.com> References: <003d01d81eb9$c15a1900$440e4b00$@pubcom.com> Message-ID: Go To Meeting (Log me In) is an absolute no, as I can't interact with this at all with my screen reader. My most recent experience with this was when attempting to join a Texthelp webinar; for some reason, they use Go To Meeting (I really can't imagine why anyone does when there are way better options out there), but Texthelp assures me that they will be moving from this to another platform sometime this year. I personally don't understand the delay, but there it is. Google Meet and Microsoft Teams, the other two popular ones that come to mind, are fine. Robert On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 3:39 PM wrote: > I know this has been asked before, and I?ve looked through the list > archives, but the most recent thread I found was in 2016, and things have > changed so much since then. > > We?re reviewing our own platform and software for online live video > conferences. Any thoughts about accessibility in any of the major > brand-named options, such as: > > ? Zoom > > ? Zoom Professional > > ? WebEx > > ? Go To Meeting (Log me In) > > ? ZoHo Meeting > > ? BlueJeans > > ? Other? > > Thanks, > > ?Bevi > > *? ? ?* > > Bevi Chagnon *| *Designer, Accessibility Technician* |* > Chagnon@PubCom.com > > *? ? ?* > > *PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing* > > consulting ? training ? development ? design ? sec. 508 services > > *Upcoming classes* at www.PubCom.com/*classes* > > > *? ? ?* > > Latest blog-newsletter > ? *Simple Guide > to Writing Alt-Text > * > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist, Office of Learning Resources (OLR) University of Dayton Ryan C. Harris Learning Teaching Center (LTC) Roesch Library Room: 023 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 For Deaf/Hard of Hearing, call 711 (Ohio Relay) For office hours and further OLR information, please visit go.udayton.edu/ olr CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this electronic message is confidential and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail or any of its components is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please "reply" to the sender. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danc at uw.edu Thu Feb 10 13:33:52 2022 From: danc at uw.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Thu Feb 10 13:35:06 2022 Subject: [Athen] Accessible webinar/video conferencing software In-Reply-To: <003d01d81eb9$c15a1900$440e4b00$@pubcom.com> References: <003d01d81eb9$c15a1900$440e4b00$@pubcom.com> Message-ID: My opinion: At this time, Zoom is the best option for an accessible online meeting or webinar. Excellent keyboard functionality, tunable settings/preferences, and decent caption options are some of the reasons why. They also have a skilled accessibility team actively working on fixes and improvements. I love their settings for including or removing display of the meeting software while screen sharing. Their shortcut key options are very nice as well, esp being able to select global hotkeys for mute/unmute and camera on/off. The meeting controls visibility is a bit wonky at present, but I've been told it should be addressed soon. Microsoft and Google can be ok for basic functionality, but still have shortcomings. They tend to issue fixes more slowly than Zoom. Keyboard support can be mysterious. There is no perfectly accessible product. In my experience, Zoom comes closest and seems to take accessibility more seriously than competitors. As others will note, there are some that are truly bad for accessibility. WebEx and GoToMeeting come to mind. BlueJean was awful the last time I used it, but it's been a couple of years. I've not heard anything to lead me to change that opinion. Any companies in the AT/accessibility space demonstrate ignorance of accessibility if they choose these options for interacting with customers. ATHEN uses Zoom for meetings and webinars. That is a pretty solid unofficial endorsement. Again, in my opinion. -*- Dan On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 12:37 PM wrote: > I know this has been asked before, and I?ve looked through the list > archives, but the most recent thread I found was in 2016, and things have > changed so much since then. > > We?re reviewing our own platform and software for online live video > conferences. Any thoughts about accessibility in any of the major > brand-named options, such as: > > ? Zoom > > ? Zoom Professional > > ? WebEx > > ? Go To Meeting (Log me In) > > ? ZoHo Meeting > > ? BlueJeans > > ? Other? > > Thanks, > > ?Bevi > > *? ? ?* > > Bevi Chagnon *| *Designer, Accessibility Technician* |* > Chagnon@PubCom.com > > *? ? ?* > > *PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing* > > consulting ? training ? development ? design ? sec. 508 services > > *Upcoming classes* at www.PubCom.com/*classes* > > > *? ? ?* > > Latest blog-newsletter > ? *Simple Guide > to Writing Alt-Text > * > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- -*- Dan Comden danc@uw.edu Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/ University of Washington UW Information Technology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From solowoniukr at macewan.ca Thu Feb 10 13:40:09 2022 From: solowoniukr at macewan.ca (Russell Solowoniuk) Date: Thu Feb 10 13:40:20 2022 Subject: [Athen] Accessible webinar/video conferencing software In-Reply-To: References: <003d01d81eb9$c15a1900$440e4b00$@pubcom.com> Message-ID: I agree with Robert. I?ve had no luck accessing the Go To Meeting platform with JAWS. It works better on the Mac with VoiceOver, but it?s still not great there either. WebEx is okay but not easy to navigate and interact with using a screen reader. Zoom is accessible with a screen reader, and so is Google Meet and MS Teams, as Robert said. Hope this helps, Russell From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 2:09 PM To: chagnon@pubcom.com; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible webinar/video conferencing software EXTERNAL: Use caution. Go To Meeting (Log me In) is an absolute no, as I can't interact with this at all with my screen reader. My most recent experience with this was when attempting to join a Texthelp webinar; for some reason, they use Go To Meeting (I really can't imagine why anyone does when there are way better options out there), but Texthelp assures me that they will be moving from this to another platform sometime this year. I personally don't understand the delay, but there it is. Google Meet and Microsoft Teams, the other two popular ones that come to mind, are fine. Robert On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 3:39 PM > wrote: I know this has been asked before, and I?ve looked through the list archives, but the most recent thread I found was in 2016, and things have changed so much since then. We?re reviewing our own platform and software for online live video conferences. Any thoughts about accessibility in any of the major brand-named options, such as: ? Zoom ? Zoom Professional ? WebEx ? Go To Meeting (Log me In) ? ZoHo Meeting ? BlueJeans ? Other? Thanks, ?Bevi ? ? ? Bevi Chagnon | Designer, Accessibility Technician | Chagnon@PubCom.com ? ? ? PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting ? training ? development ? design ? sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/classes ? ? ? Latest blog-newsletter ? Simple Guide to Writing Alt-Text _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist, Office of Learning Resources (OLR) University of Dayton Ryan C. Harris Learning Teaching Center (LTC) Roesch Library Room: 023 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 For Deaf/Hard of Hearing, call 711 (Ohio Relay) For office hours and further OLR information, please visit go.udayton.edu/olr CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this electronic message is confidential and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail or any of its components is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please "reply" to the sender. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From K4mccall at outlook.com Fri Feb 11 02:50:03 2022 From: K4mccall at outlook.com (Karen McCall) Date: Fri Feb 11 02:50:55 2022 Subject: [Athen] Accessible webinar/video conferencing software In-Reply-To: References: <003d01d81eb9$c15a1900$440e4b00$@pubcom.com> Message-ID: The delay could be due to the merger with Don Jonson that happened last month. I'm finding it impossible to get responses from their support team and figure it is just restructuring and trying to figure things out now that the two companies are one. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 4:09 PM To: chagnon@pubcom.com; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible webinar/video conferencing software Go To Meeting (Log me In) is an absolute no, as I can't interact with this at all with my screen reader. My most recent experience with this was when attempting to join a Texthelp webinar; for some reason, they use Go To Meeting (I really can't imagine why anyone does when there are way better options out there), but Texthelp assures me that they will be moving from this to another platform sometime this year. I personally don't understand the delay, but there it is. Google Meet and Microsoft Teams, the other two popular ones that come to mind, are fine. Robert On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 3:39 PM > wrote: I know this has been asked before, and I've looked through the list archives, but the most recent thread I found was in 2016, and things have changed so much since then. We're reviewing our own platform and software for online live video conferences. Any thoughts about accessibility in any of the major brand-named options, such as: * Zoom * Zoom Professional * WebEx * Go To Meeting (Log me In) * ZoHo Meeting * BlueJeans * Other? Thanks, -Bevi - - - Bevi Chagnon | Designer, Accessibility Technician | Chagnon@PubCom.com - - - PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting * training * development * design * sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/classes - - - Latest blog-newsletter - Simple Guide to Writing Alt-Text _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist, Office of Learning Resources (OLR) University of Dayton Ryan C. Harris Learning Teaching Center (LTC) Roesch Library Room: 023 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 For Deaf/Hard of Hearing, call 711 (Ohio Relay) For office hours and further OLR information, please visit go.udayton.edu/olr CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this electronic message is confidential and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail or any of its components is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please "reply" to the sender. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Fri Feb 11 05:40:49 2022 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Fri Feb 11 05:41:07 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Accessible webinar/video conferencing software In-Reply-To: References: <003d01d81eb9$c15a1900$440e4b00$@pubcom.com> Message-ID: I agree that Go To Meetings is a big time flop in regards to accessibility. I have some issues with Teams since has still seems to have unlabeled buttons and tends to get locked into portions of the screen. Zoom is the best I have found for both JAWS and NVDA. I have not tried it with Voice Over. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 3:09 PM To: chagnon@pubcom.com; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Accessible webinar/video conferencing software CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Go To Meeting (Log me In) is an absolute no, as I can't interact with this at all with my screen reader. My most recent experience with this was when attempting to join a Texthelp webinar; for some reason, they use Go To Meeting (I really can't imagine why anyone does when there are way better options out there), but Texthelp assures me that they will be moving from this to another platform sometime this year. I personally don't understand the delay, but there it is. Google Meet and Microsoft Teams, the other two popular ones that come to mind, are fine. Robert On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 3:39 PM > wrote: I know this has been asked before, and I've looked through the list archives, but the most recent thread I found was in 2016, and things have changed so much since then. We're reviewing our own platform and software for online live video conferences. Any thoughts about accessibility in any of the major brand-named options, such as: * Zoom * Zoom Professional * WebEx * Go To Meeting (Log me In) * ZoHo Meeting * BlueJeans * Other? Thanks, -Bevi - - - Bevi Chagnon | Designer, Accessibility Technician | Chagnon@PubCom.com - - - PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting * training * development * design * sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/classes - - - Latest blog-newsletter - Simple Guide to Writing Alt-Text _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist, Office of Learning Resources (OLR) University of Dayton Ryan C. Harris Learning Teaching Center (LTC) Roesch Library Room: 023 Phone: 937-229-2066 Fax: 937-229-3270 For Deaf/Hard of Hearing, call 711 (Ohio Relay) For office hours and further OLR information, please visit go.udayton.edu/olr CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this electronic message is confidential and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail or any of its components is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please "reply" to the sender. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dkrahmer at colgate.edu Fri Feb 11 05:45:30 2022 From: dkrahmer at colgate.edu (Debbie Krahmer) Date: Fri Feb 11 05:45:44 2022 Subject: [Athen] Accessible webinar/video conferencing software In-Reply-To: <003d01d81eb9$c15a1900$440e4b00$@pubcom.com> References: <003d01d81eb9$c15a1900$440e4b00$@pubcom.com> Message-ID: We have a review of accessibility issues around Zoom from the DLF Digital Accessibility Working Group. I can attest to the inaccessibility (and it wasn't very easy to use) in BlueJeans when I used it in 2018-2019. We switched to Zoom, instead. Thanks, D. ______________ Debbie Krahmer Preferred Pronouns: D/no pronouns Associate Professor in the Libraries Accessible Technology & Government Documents Librarian 304 Case-Geyer Colgate University 315-228-6592 dkrahmer@colgate.edu On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 3:37 PM wrote: > I know this has been asked before, and I?ve looked through the list > archives, but the most recent thread I found was in 2016, and things have > changed so much since then. > > We?re reviewing our own platform and software for online live video > conferences. Any thoughts about accessibility in any of the major > brand-named options, such as: > > ? Zoom > > ? Zoom Professional > > ? WebEx > > ? Go To Meeting (Log me In) > > ? ZoHo Meeting > > ? BlueJeans > > ? Other? > > Thanks, > > ?Bevi > > *? ? ?* > > Bevi Chagnon *| *Designer, Accessibility Technician* |* > Chagnon@PubCom.com > > *? ? ?* > > *PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing* > > consulting ? training ? development ? design ? sec. 508 services > > *Upcoming classes* at www.PubCom.com/*classes* > > > *? ? ?* > > Latest blog-newsletter > ? *Simple Guide > to Writing Alt-Text > * > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lgreco at berkeley.edu Fri Feb 11 08:36:11 2022 From: lgreco at berkeley.edu (Lucy GRECO) Date: Fri Feb 11 08:36:52 2022 Subject: [Athen] new role at berkley share widely Message-ID: Hello Berkeley is looking for a new person to help support and foster equity and diversity. I wanted to share the role here as I would love the person to have a stronger background in disability then some of the people in the industry today. Please share this role with anyone you think might be interested. https://careerspub.universityofcalifornia.edu/psp/ucb/EMPLOYEE/HRMS/c/HRS_HRAM.HRS_APP_SCHJOB.GBL?Page=HRS_APP_JBPST&JobOpeningId=30823&PostingSeq=1&SiteId=21&languageCd=ENG&FOCUS=Applicant if the link does not work please get in tuch with me directly i offin have problems with our job board lucy Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From help at nationaldeafcenter.org Fri Feb 11 14:06:39 2022 From: help at nationaldeafcenter.org (National Deaf Center) Date: Fri Feb 11 14:07:12 2022 Subject: [Athen] Survey: Virtual Conference Platform Message-ID: Greetings LS Members! The National Deaf Center on Postsecondary Outcomes (NDC) is collecting feedback from those who are using a virtual conference platform for their event(s) that is accessible, user friendly, and provides an engaging virtual experience for participants. In particular we would like to know if the virtual conference platform is: - Accessible: - Does it allow for the interpreter box to be visible at all times (does not default to the screen with audio)? - Is it compliant with any software used by blind people? - Is it flexible with setting up real-time captions (placement and features)? - Format Features: - Can it support a variety of virtual activities such as multiple presentations at the same time, panels, group meets, and a space for networking? - Are there any challenges with participants accessing the platform? - Can the virtual platform be accessed through different devices (tablet, mobile device, laptop)? - Event Planning: - Whether the virtual conference is set-up by the vendor for a fee or prepared in-house, what has been your experience with this approach? - Is the layout easy for participants to navigate (registration/sign-up, exploring the virtual conference space, accessing presentation materials)? - What was the customer service experience from the vendor like? 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URL: From armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu Mon Feb 14 12:54:52 2022 From: armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu (Deborah Armstrong) Date: Mon Feb 14 12:55:06 2022 Subject: [Athen] Weird PDF printing problem Message-ID: I have a work computer and a computer at home which also belongs to my employer, a college of course. Both theoretically were set up with the same "image" the same version of Acrobat, Microsoft office etc. And both run Windows 10 enterprise and I keep them both updated. But when I print (actually save) a web page as a PDF, the home computer creates an inaccessible image-only PDF. The office computer creates an accessible PDF. It's not perfect, but all the text is readable with a screen reader or other tool that can voice PDFS. I would appreciate if someone could explain what's going on. How many different ways can a person "print to PDF" and which methods should one avoid if sending a web page "printout" to someone who must read it with a screen reader? I myself am a screen reader user, but luckily I've only had to share these printouts with people who look at the PDF visually. But I still need to know what's going on. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve.green at testpartners.co.uk Mon Feb 14 13:13:03 2022 From: steve.green at testpartners.co.uk (Steve Green) Date: Mon Feb 14 13:13:17 2022 Subject: [Athen] Weird PDF printing problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you are using Chrome, the Print dialog contains a Destination combobox that provides two options that create PDFs. The "Microsoft Print to PDF" option creates an inaccessible image-only PDF as you described. The "Save as PDF" option creates a tagged PDF that screen readers can read. You should always use the "Saved as PDF" option. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: 14 February 2022 20:55 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Weird PDF printing problem I have a work computer and a computer at home which also belongs to my employer, a college of course. Both theoretically were set up with the same "image" the same version of Acrobat, Microsoft office etc. And both run Windows 10 enterprise and I keep them both updated. But when I print (actually save) a web page as a PDF, the home computer creates an inaccessible image-only PDF. The office computer creates an accessible PDF. It's not perfect, but all the text is readable with a screen reader or other tool that can voice PDFS. I would appreciate if someone could explain what's going on. How many different ways can a person "print to PDF" and which methods should one avoid if sending a web page "printout" to someone who must read it with a screen reader? I myself am a screen reader user, but luckily I've only had to share these printouts with people who look at the PDF visually. But I still need to know what's going on. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexis_delevett at cuesta.edu Mon Feb 14 14:16:33 2022 From: alexis_delevett at cuesta.edu (Alexis Delevett) Date: Mon Feb 14 14:16:46 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: Weird PDF printing problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you Steve, The Print > Save as PDF option in Chrome does not create tagged PDFs for me, so if anyone has additional insight that would be helpful. Because of this experience I've recommended, for users who have access to Acrobat DC, to print a website to PDF from within Adobe by visiting File > Create > PDF from Web Page, which does have a settings dialog to ensure the PDF created is tagged. ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Steve Green Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 1:13 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Athen] Weird PDF printing problem If you are using Chrome, the Print dialog contains a Destination combobox that provides two options that create PDFs. The ?Microsoft Print to PDF? option creates an inaccessible image-only PDF as you described. The ?Save as PDF? option creates a tagged PDF that screen readers can read. You should always use the ?Saved as PDF? option. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: 14 February 2022 20:55 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Weird PDF printing problem I have a work computer and a computer at home which also belongs to my employer, a college of course. Both theoretically were set up with the same ?image? the same version of Acrobat, Microsoft office etc. And both run Windows 10 enterprise and I keep them both updated. But when I print (actually save) a web page as a PDF, the home computer creates an inaccessible image-only PDF. The office computer creates an accessible PDF. It?s not perfect, but all the text is readable with a screen reader or other tool that can voice PDFS. I would appreciate if someone could explain what?s going on. How many different ways can a person ?print to PDF? and which methods should one avoid if sending a web page ?printout? to someone who must read it with a screen reader? I myself am a screen reader user, but luckily I?ve only had to share these printouts with people who look at the PDF visually. But I still need to know what?s going on. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve.green at testpartners.co.uk Mon Feb 14 14:25:25 2022 From: steve.green at testpartners.co.uk (Steve Green) Date: Mon Feb 14 14:25:45 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: Weird PDF printing problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That is weird because the Print > Save as PDF option in Chrome creates tagged PDFs on every machine I have ever worked on, and we have dozens of machines. Steve From: athen-list On Behalf Of Alexis Delevett Sent: 14 February 2022 22:17 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: Weird PDF printing problem Thank you Steve, The Print > Save as PDF option in Chrome does not create tagged PDFs for me, so if anyone has additional insight that would be helpful. Because of this experience I've recommended, for users who have access to Acrobat DC, to print a website to PDF from within Adobe by visiting File > Create > PDF from Web Page, which does have a settings dialog to ensure the PDF created is tagged. ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Steve Green > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 1:13 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Athen] Weird PDF printing problem If you are using Chrome, the Print dialog contains a Destination combobox that provides two options that create PDFs. The "Microsoft Print to PDF" option creates an inaccessible image-only PDF as you described. The "Save as PDF" option creates a tagged PDF that screen readers can read. You should always use the "Saved as PDF" option. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: 14 February 2022 20:55 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Weird PDF printing problem I have a work computer and a computer at home which also belongs to my employer, a college of course. Both theoretically were set up with the same "image" the same version of Acrobat, Microsoft office etc. And both run Windows 10 enterprise and I keep them both updated. But when I print (actually save) a web page as a PDF, the home computer creates an inaccessible image-only PDF. The office computer creates an accessible PDF. It's not perfect, but all the text is readable with a screen reader or other tool that can voice PDFS. I would appreciate if someone could explain what's going on. How many different ways can a person "print to PDF" and which methods should one avoid if sending a web page "printout" to someone who must read it with a screen reader? I myself am a screen reader user, but luckily I've only had to share these printouts with people who look at the PDF visually. But I still need to know what's going on. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhayman at olympic.edu Mon Feb 14 15:26:14 2022 From: dhayman at olympic.edu (Hayman, Douglass) Date: Mon Feb 14 15:27:00 2022 Subject: [Athen] Is your institution using PeopleSoft and how are you handling issues with accessibility Message-ID: ATHEN colleagues, Here in Washington state the community college system is using PeopleSoft software by Oracle which is branded as ctcLink. There are a number of accessibility issues and the process each college must go through is reporting in detail what it is they are encountering to members of the state board. That group must then report these issues to Oracle in an attempt to get these resolved. I imagine that there are other higher education people across the country who are also using PeopleSoft (or some rebranding of it) who could benefit by joining forces to get accessibility issues resolved similar to how joint efforts a few years back led to productive dialogues to get Canvas LMS accessibility improved. Thoughts and ideas from you all? Doug Hayman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Olympic College dhayman@olympic.edu (360) 475-7632 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexis_delevett at cuesta.edu Mon Feb 14 15:29:49 2022 From: alexis_delevett at cuesta.edu (Alexis Delevett) Date: Mon Feb 14 15:30:16 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: Weird PDF printing problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks again, I was convinced by what you said so after some more checking it turns out I was getting these results because I had the headers/footers options checked under more settings on the print dialog. Once they were unchecked I was getting tagged PDFs as well. This is certainly much easier than printing from Acrobat! ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Steve Green Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 2:25 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: Weird PDF printing problem That is weird because the Print > Save as PDF option in Chrome creates tagged PDFs on every machine I have ever worked on, and we have dozens of machines. Steve From: athen-list On Behalf Of Alexis Delevett Sent: 14 February 2022 22:17 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: Weird PDF printing problem Thank you Steve, The Print > Save as PDF option in Chrome does not create tagged PDFs for me, so if anyone has additional insight that would be helpful. Because of this experience I've recommended, for users who have access to Acrobat DC, to print a website to PDF from within Adobe by visiting File > Create > PDF from Web Page, which does have a settings dialog to ensure the PDF created is tagged. ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Steve Green > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 1:13 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Athen] Weird PDF printing problem If you are using Chrome, the Print dialog contains a Destination combobox that provides two options that create PDFs. The ?Microsoft Print to PDF? option creates an inaccessible image-only PDF as you described. The ?Save as PDF? option creates a tagged PDF that screen readers can read. You should always use the ?Saved as PDF? option. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: 14 February 2022 20:55 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Weird PDF printing problem I have a work computer and a computer at home which also belongs to my employer, a college of course. Both theoretically were set up with the same ?image? the same version of Acrobat, Microsoft office etc. And both run Windows 10 enterprise and I keep them both updated. But when I print (actually save) a web page as a PDF, the home computer creates an inaccessible image-only PDF. The office computer creates an accessible PDF. It?s not perfect, but all the text is readable with a screen reader or other tool that can voice PDFS. I would appreciate if someone could explain what?s going on. How many different ways can a person ?print to PDF? and which methods should one avoid if sending a web page ?printout? to someone who must read it with a screen reader? I myself am a screen reader user, but luckily I?ve only had to share these printouts with people who look at the PDF visually. But I still need to know what?s going on. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve.green at testpartners.co.uk Mon Feb 14 15:37:13 2022 From: steve.green at testpartners.co.uk (Steve Green) Date: Mon Feb 14 15:37:27 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: Weird PDF printing problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That is even weirder because the headers/footers option is checked on all our machines. We may never get to the bottom of this, but at least your problem is sorted. Steve From: athen-list On Behalf Of Alexis Delevett Sent: 14 February 2022 23:30 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: Weird PDF printing problem Thanks again, I was convinced by what you said so after some more checking it turns out I was getting these results because I had the headers/footers options checked under more settings on the print dialog. Once they were unchecked I was getting tagged PDFs as well. This is certainly much easier than printing from Acrobat! ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Steve Green > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 2:25 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: Weird PDF printing problem That is weird because the Print > Save as PDF option in Chrome creates tagged PDFs on every machine I have ever worked on, and we have dozens of machines. Steve From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Alexis Delevett Sent: 14 February 2022 22:17 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: Weird PDF printing problem Thank you Steve, The Print > Save as PDF option in Chrome does not create tagged PDFs for me, so if anyone has additional insight that would be helpful. Because of this experience I've recommended, for users who have access to Acrobat DC, to print a website to PDF from within Adobe by visiting File > Create > PDF from Web Page, which does have a settings dialog to ensure the PDF created is tagged. ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Steve Green > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 1:13 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Athen] Weird PDF printing problem If you are using Chrome, the Print dialog contains a Destination combobox that provides two options that create PDFs. The "Microsoft Print to PDF" option creates an inaccessible image-only PDF as you described. The "Save as PDF" option creates a tagged PDF that screen readers can read. You should always use the "Saved as PDF" option. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: 14 February 2022 20:55 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Weird PDF printing problem I have a work computer and a computer at home which also belongs to my employer, a college of course. Both theoretically were set up with the same "image" the same version of Acrobat, Microsoft office etc. And both run Windows 10 enterprise and I keep them both updated. But when I print (actually save) a web page as a PDF, the home computer creates an inaccessible image-only PDF. The office computer creates an accessible PDF. It's not perfect, but all the text is readable with a screen reader or other tool that can voice PDFS. I would appreciate if someone could explain what's going on. How many different ways can a person "print to PDF" and which methods should one avoid if sending a web page "printout" to someone who must read it with a screen reader? I myself am a screen reader user, but luckily I've only had to share these printouts with people who look at the PDF visually. But I still need to know what's going on. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dandrews920 at comcast.net Mon Feb 14 17:02:25 2022 From: dandrews920 at comcast.net (David Andrews) Date: Mon Feb 14 17:02:44 2022 Subject: [Athen] Is your institution using PeopleSoft and how are you handling issues with accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have found this topic to be a potential quagmire. I work for the state of Minnesota and we use PeopleSoft for various things. We have reported various accessibility problems, and bugs over the years, and Oracle has allegedly corrected many of them. This is inter prise software though, and most entities are slow to upgrade, because of the complexity of things. Every time we do, something else breaks. We are on version 3.5 or 3.6, or something like that. Oracle is working on a flavor of version5, or 6, I understand, so any potential fixes are years away for us. So, depending on your version, your problems may have been fixed -- but it is hard to know! Dave At 05:26 PM 2/14/2022, Hayman, Douglass wrote: >Content-Language: en-US >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > >boundary="_000_SJ0PR03MB555126E6BCAA7B508F2F9DE2BB339SJ0PR03MB5551namp_" > >ATHEN colleagues, > > > >Here in Washington state the community college system is using >PeopleSoft software by Oracle which is branded as ctcLink. There >are a number of accessibility issues and the process each college >must go through is reporting in detail what it is they are >encountering to members of the state board. That group must then >report these issues to Oracle in an attempt to get these resolved. > > > >I imagine that there are other higher education people across the >country who are also using PeopleSoft (or some rebranding of it) who >could benefit by joining forces to get accessibility issues resolved >similar to how joint efforts a few years back led to productive >dialogues to get Canvas LMS accessibility improved. > > > >Thoughts and ideas from you all? > > > >Doug Hayman > >IT Accessibility Coordinator > >Information Technology > >Olympic College > >dhayman@olympic.edu > >(360) 475-7632 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From hunziker at arizona.edu Tue Feb 15 11:00:41 2022 From: hunziker at arizona.edu (Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker)) Date: Tue Feb 15 11:00:59 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Is your institution using PeopleSoft and how are you handling issues with accessibility In-Reply-To: <202202150103.21F1346W027110@mxout22.s.uw.edu> References: <202202150103.21F1346W027110@mxout22.s.uw.edu> Message-ID: Hi all, According to my information, the University of Arizona just upgraded to 8.59 of PeopleSoft tools. I'll need to verify this based on Dave's information that Oracle is working on versions 5 or 6.... I have found a mixture of accessible/inaccessible components. We have some items that I believe were developed in-house, such as an HTML version of the W2 generated information, which makes for a more accessible experience in reading that complicated table of information. Additionally, on the student side, I've had to work with developers to create more accessible versions of their forms. We also recently worked with a vendor to "modernize" our student center since students weren't happy with the look and non-mobile device access that our PeopleSoft tools provided. This modernization turned out to be a big win for usability and accessibility - we're still working through some items but overall, it's a much better experience for all students than PeopleSoft was. Now, if we could only make that happen on the employee side (smile). If anyone wants to learn more about our efforts at UArizona, feel free to reach out! Dawn Dawn Hunziker Assistant Director, Digital and Physical Access | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 From: athen-list On Behalf Of David Andrews Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 6:02 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network ; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Is your institution using PeopleSoft and how are you handling issues with accessibility External Email I have found this topic to be a potential quagmire. I work for the state of Minnesota and we use PeopleSoft for various things. We have reported various accessibility problems, and bugs over the years, and Oracle has allegedly corrected many of them. This is inter prise software though, and most entities are slow to upgrade, because of the complexity of things. Every time we do, something else breaks. We are on version 3.5 or 3.6, or something like that. Oracle is working on a flavor of version5, or 6, I understand, so any potential fixes are years away for us. So, depending on your version, your problems may have been fixed -- but it is hard to know! Dave At 05:26 PM 2/14/2022, Hayman, Douglass wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_SJ0PR03MB555126E6BCAA7B508F2F9DE2BB339SJ0PR03MB5551namp_" ATHEN colleagues, Here in Washington state the community college system is using PeopleSoft software by Oracle which is branded as ctcLink. There are a number of accessibility issues and the process each college must go through is reporting in detail what it is they are encountering to members of the state board. That group must then report these issues to Oracle in an attempt to get these resolved. I imagine that there are other higher education people across the country who are also using PeopleSoft (or some rebranding of it) who could benefit by joining forces to get accessibility issues resolved similar to how joint efforts a few years back led to productive dialogues to get Canvas LMS accessibility improved. Thoughts and ideas from you all? Doug Hayman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Olympic College dhayman@olympic.edu (360) 475-7632 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dandrews920 at comcast.net Tue Feb 15 14:02:59 2022 From: dandrews920 at comcast.net (dandrews920@comcast.net) Date: Tue Feb 15 14:04:04 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Is your institution using PeopleSoft and how are you handling issues with accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <202202150103.21F1346W027110@mxout22.s.uw.edu> Message-ID: <05be01d822b7$cc255d70$64701850$@comcast.net> I could be off in my version numbers? I know here, in MN we are on 3.xxx not exactly sure, but the last I heard Oracle was in 6.X and that was a while ago. And . there may be other components, I believe "Peoplesoft Tools" are components used to customize their pages for local use. Dave From: athen-list On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 1:01 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Is your institution using PeopleSoft and how are you handling issues with accessibility Hi all, According to my information, the University of Arizona just upgraded to 8.59 of PeopleSoft tools. I'll need to verify this based on Dave's information that Oracle is working on versions 5 or 6.. I have found a mixture of accessible/inaccessible components. We have some items that I believe were developed in-house, such as an HTML version of the W2 generated information, which makes for a more accessible experience in reading that complicated table of information. Additionally, on the student side, I've had to work with developers to create more accessible versions of their forms. We also recently worked with a vendor to "modernize" our student center since students weren't happy with the look and non-mobile device access that our PeopleSoft tools provided. This modernization turned out to be a big win for usability and accessibility - we're still working through some items but overall, it's a much better experience for all students than PeopleSoft was. Now, if we could only make that happen on the employee side (smile). If anyone wants to learn more about our efforts at UArizona, feel free to reach out! Dawn Dawn Hunziker Assistant Director, Digital and Physical Access | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of David Andrews Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 6:02 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network >; Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Is your institution using PeopleSoft and how are you handling issues with accessibility External Email I have found this topic to be a potential quagmire. I work for the state of Minnesota and we use PeopleSoft for various things. We have reported various accessibility problems, and bugs over the years, and Oracle has allegedly corrected many of them. This is inter prise software though, and most entities are slow to upgrade, because of the complexity of things. Every time we do, something else breaks. We are on version 3.5 or 3.6, or something like that. Oracle is working on a flavor of version5, or 6, I understand, so any potential fixes are years away for us. So, depending on your version, your problems may have been fixed -- but it is hard to know! Dave At 05:26 PM 2/14/2022, Hayman, Douglass wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_SJ0PR03MB555126E6BCAA7B508F2F9DE2BB339SJ0PR03MB5551namp_" ATHEN colleagues, Here in Washington state the community college system is using PeopleSoft software by Oracle which is branded as ctcLink. There are a number of accessibility issues and the process each college must go through is reporting in detail what it is they are encountering to members of the state board. That group must then report these issues to Oracle in an attempt to get these resolved. I imagine that there are other higher education people across the country who are also using PeopleSoft (or some rebranding of it) who could benefit by joining forces to get accessibility issues resolved similar to how joint efforts a few years back led to productive dialogues to get Canvas LMS accessibility improved. Thoughts and ideas from you all? Doug Hayman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Olympic College dhayman@olympic.edu (360) 475-7632 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From normajean.brand at hccs.edu Tue Feb 15 15:20:58 2022 From: normajean.brand at hccs.edu (Normajean.Brand) Date: Tue Feb 15 15:21:25 2022 Subject: [Athen] 3d printing ? Message-ID: I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me - this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? 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We deliver. We innovate. On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 3:21 PM Normajean.Brand wrote: > I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what > questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here > goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have > two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other > one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed > the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the > plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a > license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind > student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me ? this will be my first. > > Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM > conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more > information, but thought I?d stop here as well. > > This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use > Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to > dust. > > TIA > > NJ > > > > > > *NJ Brand, **BAAS-Psych, **ATAC* > > (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This > > *ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician*, Center for Learning Innovation > ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, > off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice > > ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS > ? Counseling & Ability Services > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Wed Feb 16 05:50:07 2022 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Wed Feb 16 05:50:39 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: APH has the periodic table in a tactile graph as well as a booklet. I?ve had three different students use these and found them helpful. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:21 PM To: ATHEN Subject: [EXT][Athen] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me - this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 - Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From normajean.brand at hccs.edu Wed Feb 16 07:20:08 2022 From: normajean.brand at hccs.edu (Normajean.Brand) Date: Wed Feb 16 07:20:57 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Robert, I checked with APH and they seem to be out of the tactile graph and weren?t sure about the booklet. I?m waiting to hear back from them. They were actually the first place I checked for one. I?ll keep checking with them. NJ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:50 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? APH has the periodic table in a tactile graph as well as a booklet. I?ve had three different students use these and found them helpful. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:21 PM To: ATHEN > Subject: [EXT][Athen] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me - this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 - Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adwershing at pstcc.edu Wed Feb 16 07:27:06 2022 From: adwershing at pstcc.edu (Wershing, Alice D.) Date: Wed Feb 16 07:27:36 2022 Subject: [Athen] [External] Re: [EXT] 3d printing ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Perkins has some good resources, and there is a reference from someone who is interested in having people test a 3d version they have created. Josh Miele may also have some resources. He is a MacArthur fellow. Alice Schedule a training session Alice D. Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P., C.P.A.C.C. Disability Services, Technology Specialist TNecampus Accessibility Specialist Pellissippi State Technical Community College 865-694-6751 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Normajean.Brand Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 10:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [External] Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Robert, I checked with APH and they seem to be out of the tactile graph and weren?t sure about the booklet. I?m waiting to hear back from them. They were actually the first place I checked for one. I?ll keep checking with them. NJ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:50 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? APH has the periodic table in a tactile graph as well as a booklet. I?ve had three different students use these and found them helpful. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist ? Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:21 PM To: ATHEN > Subject: [EXT][Athen] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me ? this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adwershing at pstcc.edu Wed Feb 16 07:29:33 2022 From: adwershing at pstcc.edu (Wershing, Alice D.) Date: Wed Feb 16 07:30:03 2022 Subject: [Athen] [External] Re: [EXT] 3d printing ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Also National Braille Press has one for 32.00. Alice ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Normajean.Brand Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 10:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [External] Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Robert, I checked with APH and they seem to be out of the tactile graph and weren?t sure about the booklet. I?m waiting to hear back from them. They were actually the first place I checked for one. I?ll keep checking with them. NJ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:50 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? APH has the periodic table in a tactile graph as well as a booklet. I?ve had three different students use these and found them helpful. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist ? Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:21 PM To: ATHEN > Subject: [EXT][Athen] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me ? this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adwershing at pstcc.edu Wed Feb 16 07:47:31 2022 From: adwershing at pstcc.edu (Wershing, Alice D.) Date: Wed Feb 16 07:47:41 2022 Subject: [Athen] [External] Re: [EXT] 3d printing ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Texas School for the Blind has files available for use. Alice Wershing ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Wershing, Alice D. Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 10:29 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [External] Re: [EXT] 3d printing ? Also National Braille Press has one for 32.00. Alice ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Normajean.Brand Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 10:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [External] Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Robert, I checked with APH and they seem to be out of the tactile graph and weren?t sure about the booklet. I?m waiting to hear back from them. They were actually the first place I checked for one. I?ll keep checking with them. NJ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:50 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? APH has the periodic table in a tactile graph as well as a booklet. I?ve had three different students use these and found them helpful. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist ? Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:21 PM To: ATHEN > Subject: [EXT][Athen] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me ? this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? 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I'm just checking to see if anyone has recommendations for companies or products with which they have had success - or companies/products to stay away from. Any input would be much appreciated. Thank you! Kari ________________________________________________________ Kari Saunders, MAT, M.Ed. Assistant Director - Assistive Technology | Disability Resource Center UNC Wilmington | 601 S. College Road | Wilmington, NC 28403-5942 Tel: 910.962.7555 | Fax: 910.962.7556 | Email: saundersk@uncw.edu UNCW Disability Resource Center -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smarositz at csudh.edu Wed Feb 16 08:57:26 2022 From: smarositz at csudh.edu (Stephen Marositz) Date: Wed Feb 16 08:57:46 2022 Subject: [Athen] 3d printing ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Greetings I couldn?t agree with Lucy more on this one. Start with the basics. You will need a bigger 3D printer than you think to do tactile mottles and it will not do braille anyways. Check out this for a periodic table as well especially for the students who use braille sparingly or not at all. A braille periodic table may frustrate them mor than help. https://www.nathantech.net/products/software/periodictable.php I believe there are other accessible options out there but they tend to be web based. This works nicely in a self-contained app. HTH Alex Marositz Accessible Technology Initiative Coordinator Information Security and Compliance California State University, Dominguez Hills From: athen-list On Behalf Of Lucy GRECO Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 3:31 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] 3d printing ? hello: there are tons of ways to create a braille periodic table and threeD printing is not one of them. Check which app to see if they still have the excellent one they had. a small format a threeD printer is not worth the space it takes up. You need to find something that can print medium size or larger models. Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 3:21 PM Normajean.Brand > wrote: I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me - this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 - Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wwilliam at southtexascollege.edu Wed Feb 16 15:42:56 2022 From: wwilliam at southtexascollege.edu (Wendi Williams) Date: Wed Feb 16 15:43:29 2022 Subject: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 193, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: NormaJean, Take a look at https://www.yeggi.com/q/periodic+table/ for printable components. [https://img1.yeggi.com/page_images_cache/3938259_file-periodic-table-400x240mm-model-to-3d-print-1zB] "periodic table" 3D Models to Print - yeggi 2054 "periodic table" 3D Models. Every Day new 3D Models from all over the World. Click to find the best Results for periodic table Models for your 3D Printer. www.yeggi.com Personally have not yet used these files, but you can use .stl formats for many of the smaller printers. Best. -------------------------------------------- Wendi J. W. Williams, Ph.D. South Texas College Department of Physical Sciences and Engineering / Geology Office: Pecan Campus / G - 147 Tel: (956) 872-8319 or Cell: (956) 432 - 5924 voice/text E-Mail: wwilliam@southtexascollege.edu Pronouns: she / her / hers [cid:b985648d-8a4d-4046-978f-f9a5c73525a2] I use a 14-point font for more accessible communication. Learn more about inclusion in the geosciences at www.theiagd.org . https://ms.southtexascollege.edu/physics/ American Geosciences Institute Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Committee / International Assoc of Geoscience Diversity Co-Liaison Geological Society of America Education Committee / South-Central Section Rep ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 2:00 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 193, Issue 12 CAUTION: This email originated from outside South Texas College. 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Re: [EXT] 3d printing ? (Normajean.Brand) 6. Re: [External] Re: [EXT] 3d printing ? (Wershing, Alice D.) 7. Re: [External] Re: [EXT] 3d printing ? (Wershing, Alice D.) 8. Re: [External] Re: [EXT] 3d printing ? (Wershing, Alice D.) 9. FM System Recommendations (Saunders, Kari L) 10. Re: 3d printing ? (Stephen Marositz) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:02:59 -0600 From: To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Is your institution using PeopleSoft and how are you handling issues with accessibility Message-ID: <05be01d822b7$cc255d70$64701850$@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I could be off in my version numbers? I know here, in MN we are on 3.xxx not exactly sure, but the last I heard Oracle was in 6.X and that was a while ago. And . there may be other components, I believe "Peoplesoft Tools" are components used to customize their pages for local use. Dave From: athen-list On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 1:01 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Is your institution using PeopleSoft and how are you handling issues with accessibility Hi all, According to my information, the University of Arizona just upgraded to 8.59 of PeopleSoft tools. I'll need to verify this based on Dave's information that Oracle is working on versions 5 or 6.. I have found a mixture of accessible/inaccessible components. We have some items that I believe were developed in-house, such as an HTML version of the W2 generated information, which makes for a more accessible experience in reading that complicated table of information. Additionally, on the student side, I've had to work with developers to create more accessible versions of their forms. We also recently worked with a vendor to "modernize" our student center since students weren't happy with the look and non-mobile device access that our PeopleSoft tools provided. This modernization turned out to be a big win for usability and accessibility - we're still working through some items but overall, it's a much better experience for all students than PeopleSoft was. Now, if we could only make that happen on the employee side (smile). If anyone wants to learn more about our efforts at UArizona, feel free to reach out! Dawn Dawn Hunziker Assistant Director, Digital and Physical Access | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of David Andrews Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 6:02 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network >; Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Is your institution using PeopleSoft and how are you handling issues with accessibility External Email I have found this topic to be a potential quagmire. I work for the state of Minnesota and we use PeopleSoft for various things. We have reported various accessibility problems, and bugs over the years, and Oracle has allegedly corrected many of them. This is inter prise software though, and most entities are slow to upgrade, because of the complexity of things. Every time we do, something else breaks. We are on version 3.5 or 3.6, or something like that. Oracle is working on a flavor of version5, or 6, I understand, so any potential fixes are years away for us. So, depending on your version, your problems may have been fixed -- but it is hard to know! Dave At 05:26 PM 2/14/2022, Hayman, Douglass wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_SJ0PR03MB555126E6BCAA7B508F2F9DE2BB339SJ0PR03MB5551namp_" ATHEN colleagues, Here in Washington state the community college system is using PeopleSoft software by Oracle which is branded as ctcLink. There are a number of accessibility issues and the process each college must go through is reporting in detail what it is they are encountering to members of the state board. That group must then report these issues to Oracle in an attempt to get these resolved. I imagine that there are other higher education people across the country who are also using PeopleSoft (or some rebranding of it) who could benefit by joining forces to get accessibility issues resolved similar to how joint efforts a few years back led to productive dialogues to get Canvas LMS accessibility improved. Thoughts and ideas from you all? Doug Hayman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Olympic College dhayman@olympic.edu (360) 475-7632 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:20:58 +0000 From: Normajean.Brand To: ATHEN Subject: [Athen] 3d printing ? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me - this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? 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Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://webaccess.berkeley.edu__;!!DfwEdKd4Yj-C2yU!0Eux0MYqrwy5yhWfeZqZ688Yz7gAzlswVzN7AYNnzmIKfKdw1zLjJLXC50EwJHZd1TKz3FMj7BY$ Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 3:21 PM Normajean.Brand wrote: > I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what > questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here > goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have > two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other > one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed > the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the > plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a > license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind > student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me ? this will be my first. > > Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM > conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more > information, but thought I?d stop here as well. > > This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use > Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to > dust. > > TIA > > NJ > > > > > > *NJ Brand, **BAAS-Psych, **ATAC* > > (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This > > *ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician*, Center for Learning Innovation > ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, > off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice > > ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS > ? 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Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:21 PM To: ATHEN Subject: [EXT][Athen] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me - this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 - Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:20:08 +0000 From: Normajean.Brand To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Hi Robert, I checked with APH and they seem to be out of the tactile graph and weren?t sure about the booklet. I?m waiting to hear back from them. They were actually the first place I checked for one. I?ll keep checking with them. NJ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:50 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? APH has the periodic table in a tactile graph as well as a booklet. I?ve had three different students use these and found them helpful. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:21 PM To: ATHEN > Subject: [EXT][Athen] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me - this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 - Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:27:06 +0000 From: "Wershing, Alice D." To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [External] Re: [EXT] 3d printing ? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Perkins has some good resources, and there is a reference from someone who is interested in having people test a 3d version they have created. Josh Miele may also have some resources. He is a MacArthur fellow. Alice Schedule a training session Alice D. Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P., C.P.A.C.C. Disability Services, Technology Specialist TNecampus Accessibility Specialist Pellissippi State Technical Community College 865-694-6751 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Normajean.Brand Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 10:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [External] Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Robert, I checked with APH and they seem to be out of the tactile graph and weren?t sure about the booklet. I?m waiting to hear back from them. They were actually the first place I checked for one. I?ll keep checking with them. NJ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:50 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? APH has the periodic table in a tactile graph as well as a booklet. I?ve had three different students use these and found them helpful. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist ? Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:21 PM To: ATHEN > Subject: [EXT][Athen] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me ? this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:29:33 +0000 From: "Wershing, Alice D." To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [External] Re: [EXT] 3d printing ? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Also National Braille Press has one for 32.00. Alice ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Normajean.Brand Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 10:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [External] Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Robert, I checked with APH and they seem to be out of the tactile graph and weren?t sure about the booklet. I?m waiting to hear back from them. They were actually the first place I checked for one. I?ll keep checking with them. NJ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:50 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? APH has the periodic table in a tactile graph as well as a booklet. I?ve had three different students use these and found them helpful. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist ? Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:21 PM To: ATHEN > Subject: [EXT][Athen] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me ? this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:47:31 +0000 From: "Wershing, Alice D." To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [External] Re: [EXT] 3d printing ? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Texas School for the Blind has files available for use. Alice Wershing ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Wershing, Alice D. Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 10:29 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [External] Re: [EXT] 3d printing ? Also National Braille Press has one for 32.00. Alice ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Normajean.Brand Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 10:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [External] Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Robert, I checked with APH and they seem to be out of the tactile graph and weren?t sure about the booklet. I?m waiting to hear back from them. They were actually the first place I checked for one. I?ll keep checking with them. NJ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:50 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? APH has the periodic table in a tactile graph as well as a booklet. I?ve had three different students use these and found them helpful. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist ? Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:21 PM To: ATHEN > Subject: [EXT][Athen] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me ? this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? 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I'm just checking to see if anyone has recommendations for companies or products with which they have had success - or companies/products to stay away from. Any input would be much appreciated. Thank you! Kari ________________________________________________________ Kari Saunders, MAT, M.Ed. Assistant Director - Assistive Technology | Disability Resource Center UNC Wilmington | 601 S. College Road | Wilmington, NC 28403-5942 Tel: 910.962.7555 | Fax: 910.962.7556 | Email: saundersk@uncw.edu UNCW Disability Resource Center -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 16:57:26 +0000 From: Stephen Marositz To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] 3d printing ? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Greetings I couldn?t agree with Lucy more on this one. Start with the basics. You will need a bigger 3D printer than you think to do tactile mottles and it will not do braille anyways. Check out this for a periodic table as well especially for the students who use braille sparingly or not at all. A braille periodic table may frustrate them mor than help. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.nathantech.net/products/software/periodictable.php__;!!DfwEdKd4Yj-C2yU!0Eux0MYqrwy5yhWfeZqZ688Yz7gAzlswVzN7AYNnzmIKfKdw1zLjJLXC50EwJHZd1TKzWSRx_TU$ I believe there are other accessible options out there but they tend to be web based. This works nicely in a self-contained app. HTH Alex Marositz Accessible Technology Initiative Coordinator Information Security and Compliance California State University, Dominguez Hills From: athen-list On Behalf Of Lucy GRECO Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 3:31 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] 3d printing ? hello: there are tons of ways to create a braille periodic table and threeD printing is not one of them. Check which app to see if they still have the excellent one they had. a small format a threeD printer is not worth the space it takes up. You need to find something that can print medium size or larger models. Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://webaccess.berkeley.edu__;!!DfwEdKd4Yj-C2yU!0Eux0MYqrwy5yhWfeZqZ688Yz7gAzlswVzN7AYNnzmIKfKdw1zLjJLXC50EwJHZd1TKz3FMj7BY$ Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 3:21 PM Normajean.Brand > wrote: I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me - this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 - Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? 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Click to find the best Results for periodic table Models for your 3D Printer. www.yeggi.com Personally have not yet used these files, but you can use .stl formats for many of the smaller printers. Best. -------------------------------------------- Wendi J. W. Williams, Ph.D. South Texas College Department of Physical Sciences and Engineering / Geology Office: Pecan Campus / G - 147 Tel: (956) 872-8319 or Cell: (956) 432 - 5924 voice/text E-Mail: wwilliam@southtexascollege.edu Pronouns: she / her / hers [cid:image001.png@01D823E4.B1726710] I use a 14-point font for more accessible communication. 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Re: [External] Re: [EXT] 3d printing ? (Wershing, Alice D.) 8. Re: [External] Re: [EXT] 3d printing ? (Wershing, Alice D.) 9. FM System Recommendations (Saunders, Kari L) 10. Re: 3d printing ? (Stephen Marositz) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:02:59 -0600 From: > To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'" > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Is your institution using PeopleSoft and how are you handling issues with accessibility Message-ID: <05be01d822b7$cc255d70$64701850$@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I could be off in my version numbers? I know here, in MN we are on 3.xxx not exactly sure, but the last I heard Oracle was in 6.X and that was a while ago. And . there may be other components, I believe "Peoplesoft Tools" are components used to customize their pages for local use. Dave From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Hunziker, Dawn A - (hunziker) Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 1:01 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Is your institution using PeopleSoft and how are you handling issues with accessibility Hi all, According to my information, the University of Arizona just upgraded to 8.59 of PeopleSoft tools. I'll need to verify this based on Dave's information that Oracle is working on versions 5 or 6.. I have found a mixture of accessible/inaccessible components. We have some items that I believe were developed in-house, such as an HTML version of the W2 generated information, which makes for a more accessible experience in reading that complicated table of information. Additionally, on the student side, I've had to work with developers to create more accessible versions of their forms. We also recently worked with a vendor to "modernize" our student center since students weren't happy with the look and non-mobile device access that our PeopleSoft tools provided. This modernization turned out to be a big win for usability and accessibility - we're still working through some items but overall, it's a much better experience for all students than PeopleSoft was. Now, if we could only make that happen on the employee side (smile). If anyone wants to learn more about our efforts at UArizona, feel free to reach out! Dawn Dawn Hunziker Assistant Director, Digital and Physical Access | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu > | itaccessibility.arizona.edu > 520-626-9409 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of David Andrews Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 6:02 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network >; Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Is your institution using PeopleSoft and how are you handling issues with accessibility External Email I have found this topic to be a potential quagmire. I work for the state of Minnesota and we use PeopleSoft for various things. We have reported various accessibility problems, and bugs over the years, and Oracle has allegedly corrected many of them. This is inter prise software though, and most entities are slow to upgrade, because of the complexity of things. Every time we do, something else breaks. We are on version 3.5 or 3.6, or something like that. Oracle is working on a flavor of version5, or 6, I understand, so any potential fixes are years away for us. So, depending on your version, your problems may have been fixed -- but it is hard to know! Dave At 05:26 PM 2/14/2022, Hayman, Douglass wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_SJ0PR03MB555126E6BCAA7B508F2F9DE2BB339SJ0PR03MB5551namp_" ATHEN colleagues, Here in Washington state the community college system is using PeopleSoft software by Oracle which is branded as ctcLink. There are a number of accessibility issues and the process each college must go through is reporting in detail what it is they are encountering to members of the state board. That group must then report these issues to Oracle in an attempt to get these resolved. I imagine that there are other higher education people across the country who are also using PeopleSoft (or some rebranding of it) who could benefit by joining forces to get accessibility issues resolved similar to how joint efforts a few years back led to productive dialogues to get Canvas LMS accessibility improved. Thoughts and ideas from you all? Doug Hayman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Olympic College dhayman@olympic.edu (360) 475-7632 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:20:58 +0000 From: Normajean.Brand > To: ATHEN > Subject: [Athen] 3d printing ? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me - this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This).pdf?_ga=2.91660819.84602280.1571755713-1618351664.1571755713__;!!DfwEdKd4Yj-C2yU!0Eux0MYqrwy5yhWfeZqZ688Yz7gAzlswVzN7AYNnzmIKfKdw1zLjJLXC50EwJHZd1TKz_9hBEas$ > ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 - Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS > > ? Counseling & Ability Services > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:30:48 -0800 From: Lucy GRECO > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] 3d printing ? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" hello: there are tons of ways to create a braille periodic table and threeD printing is not one of them. Check which app to see if they still have the excellent one they had. a small format a threeD printer is not worth the space it takes up. You need to find something that can print medium size or larger models. Berkeley IT > Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://webaccess.berkeley.edu__;!!DfwEdKd4Yj-C2yU!0Eux0MYqrwy5yhWfeZqZ688Yz7gAzlswVzN7AYNnzmIKfKdw1zLjJLXC50EwJHZd1TKz3FMj7BY$ Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 3:21 PM Normajean.Brand > wrote: > I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what > questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here > goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have > two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other > one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed > the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the > plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a > license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind > student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me ? this will be my first. > > Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM > conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more > information, but thought I?d stop here as well. > > This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use > Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to > dust. > > TIA > > NJ > > > > > > *NJ Brand, **BAAS-Psych, **ATAC* > > (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This > ).pdf?_ga=2.91660819.84602280.1571755713-1618351664.1571755713__;!!DfwEdKd4Yj-C2yU!0Eux0MYqrwy5yhWfeZqZ688Yz7gAzlswVzN7AYNnzmIKfKdw1zLjJLXC50EwJHZd1TKz_9hBEas$ > > *ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician*, Center for Learning Innovation > ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, > off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice > > ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS > > > ? 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Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:21 PM To: ATHEN > Subject: [EXT][Athen] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me - this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This).pdf*3F_ga*3D2.91660819.84602280.1571755713-1618351664.1571755713&data=04*7C01*7Crbeach*40kckcc.edu*7Ca8b298942cab47a304b608d9f0da22d4*7C23c46d06c5e342e3b848763ebb02e6ad*7C0*7C0*7C637805641963382024*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C2000&sdata=hHv*2FBC*2BX17BT*2F2khUNRlMIY*2F59LeQno1Et311iqLou8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!DfwEdKd4Yj-C2yU!0Eux0MYqrwy5yhWfeZqZ688Yz7gAzlswVzN7AYNnzmIKfKdw1zLjJLXC50EwJHZd1TKz841M5EI$ > ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 - Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS > > ? Counseling & Ability Services> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:20:08 +0000 From: Normajean.Brand > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Hi Robert, I checked with APH and they seem to be out of the tactile graph and weren?t sure about the booklet. I?m waiting to hear back from them. They were actually the first place I checked for one. I?ll keep checking with them. NJ From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:50 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? APH has the periodic table in a tactile graph as well as a booklet. I?ve had three different students use these and found them helpful. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list >> On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:21 PM To: ATHEN >> Subject: [EXT][Athen] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me - this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This).pdf*3F_ga*3D2.91660819.84602280.1571755713-1618351664.1571755713&data=04*7C01*7Crbeach*40kckcc.edu*7Ca8b298942cab47a304b608d9f0da22d4*7C23c46d06c5e342e3b848763ebb02e6ad*7C0*7C0*7C637805641963382024*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C2000&sdata=hHv*2FBC*2BX17BT*2F2khUNRlMIY*2F59LeQno1Et311iqLou8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!DfwEdKd4Yj-C2yU!0Eux0MYqrwy5yhWfeZqZ688Yz7gAzlswVzN7AYNnzmIKfKdw1zLjJLXC50EwJHZd1TKz841M5EI$ > ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 - Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS > > ? Counseling & Ability Services> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:27:06 +0000 From: "Wershing, Alice D." > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [External] Re: [EXT] 3d printing ? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Perkins > has some good resources, and there is a reference from someone who is interested in having people test a 3d version they have created. Josh Miele > may also have some resources. He is a MacArthur fellow. Alice Schedule a training session > Alice D. Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P., C.P.A.C.C. Disability Services, Technology Specialist TNecampus Accessibility Specialist Pellissippi State Technical Community College 865-694-6751 ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Normajean.Brand > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 10:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [External] Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Robert, I checked with APH and they seem to be out of the tactile graph and weren?t sure about the booklet. I?m waiting to hear back from them. They were actually the first place I checked for one. I?ll keep checking with them. NJ From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:50 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? APH has the periodic table in a tactile graph as well as a booklet. I?ve had three different students use these and found them helpful. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist ? Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list >> On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:21 PM To: ATHEN >> Subject: [EXT][Athen] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me ? this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This).pdf*3F_ga*3D2.91660819.84602280.1571755713-1618351664.1571755713&data=04*7C01*7Crbeach*40kckcc.edu*7Ca8b298942cab47a304b608d9f0da22d4*7C23c46d06c5e342e3b848763ebb02e6ad*7C0*7C0*7C637805641963382024*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C2000&sdata=hHv*2FBC*2BX17BT*2F2khUNRlMIY*2F59LeQno1Et311iqLou8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!DfwEdKd4Yj-C2yU!0Eux0MYqrwy5yhWfeZqZ688Yz7gAzlswVzN7AYNnzmIKfKdw1zLjJLXC50EwJHZd1TKz841M5EI$ > ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS > > ? Counseling & Ability Services> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:29:33 +0000 From: "Wershing, Alice D." > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [External] Re: [EXT] 3d printing ? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Also National Braille Press > has one for 32.00. Alice ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Normajean.Brand > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 10:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [External] Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Robert, I checked with APH and they seem to be out of the tactile graph and weren?t sure about the booklet. I?m waiting to hear back from them. They were actually the first place I checked for one. I?ll keep checking with them. NJ From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:50 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? APH has the periodic table in a tactile graph as well as a booklet. I?ve had three different students use these and found them helpful. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist ? Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list >> On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:21 PM To: ATHEN >> Subject: [EXT][Athen] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me ? this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This).pdf*3F_ga*3D2.91660819.84602280.1571755713-1618351664.1571755713&data=04*7C01*7Crbeach*40kckcc.edu*7Ca8b298942cab47a304b608d9f0da22d4*7C23c46d06c5e342e3b848763ebb02e6ad*7C0*7C0*7C637805641963382024*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C2000&sdata=hHv*2FBC*2BX17BT*2F2khUNRlMIY*2F59LeQno1Et311iqLou8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!DfwEdKd4Yj-C2yU!0Eux0MYqrwy5yhWfeZqZ688Yz7gAzlswVzN7AYNnzmIKfKdw1zLjJLXC50EwJHZd1TKz841M5EI$ > ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS > > ? Counseling & Ability Services> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:47:31 +0000 From: "Wershing, Alice D." > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [External] Re: [EXT] 3d printing ? Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Texas School for the Blind > has files available for use. Alice Wershing ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Wershing, Alice D. > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 10:29 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [External] Re: [EXT] 3d printing ? Also National Braille Press > has one for 32.00. Alice ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Normajean.Brand > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 10:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [External] Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Robert, I checked with APH and they seem to be out of the tactile graph and weren?t sure about the booklet. I?m waiting to hear back from them. They were actually the first place I checked for one. I?ll keep checking with them. NJ From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:50 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? APH has the periodic table in a tactile graph as well as a booklet. I?ve had three different students use these and found them helpful. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist ? Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:21 PM To: ATHEN > Subject: [EXT][Athen] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me ? this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. 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URL: ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:57:07 +0000 From: "Saunders, Kari L" To: "athen-list@u.washington.edu" Subject: [Athen] FM System Recommendations Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Good Morning! I'm hoping to gather some recommendations for reliable (and affordable) FM systems (not for student's with hearing aids). Looking for the following features: * Directional and omnidirectional (lapel or desktop versions) * Range appropriate for lecture hall sized room * Easily programmable/usable * Possibly able to connect to mic system already in place * Not too cumbersome/noticeable I tried looking through the archives, but only saw a few posts from several years ago. I'm just checking to see if anyone has recommendations for companies or products with which they have had success - or companies/products to stay away from. Any input would be much appreciated. Thank you! Kari ________________________________________________________ Kari Saunders, MAT, M.Ed. Assistant Director - Assistive Technology | Disability Resource Center UNC Wilmington | 601 S. College Road | Wilmington, NC 28403-5942 Tel: 910.962.7555 | Fax: 910.962.7556 | Email: saundersk@uncw.edu UNCW Disability Resource Center -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 16:57:26 +0000 From: Stephen Marositz To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] 3d printing ? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Greetings I couldn?t agree with Lucy more on this one. Start with the basics. You will need a bigger 3D printer than you think to do tactile mottles and it will not do braille anyways. Check out this for a periodic table as well especially for the students who use braille sparingly or not at all. A braille periodic table may frustrate them mor than help. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.nathantech.net/products/software/periodictable.php__;!!DfwEdKd4Yj-C2yU!0Eux0MYqrwy5yhWfeZqZ688Yz7gAzlswVzN7AYNnzmIKfKdw1zLjJLXC50EwJHZd1TKzWSRx_TU$ I believe there are other accessible options out there but they tend to be web based. This works nicely in a self-contained app. HTH Alex Marositz Accessible Technology Initiative Coordinator Information Security and Compliance California State University, Dominguez Hills From: athen-list On Behalf Of Lucy GRECO Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 3:31 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] 3d printing ? hello: there are tons of ways to create a braille periodic table and threeD printing is not one of them. Check which app to see if they still have the excellent one they had. a small format a threeD printer is not worth the space it takes up. You need to find something that can print medium size or larger models. Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://webaccess.berkeley.edu__;!!DfwEdKd4Yj-C2yU!0Eux0MYqrwy5yhWfeZqZ688Yz7gAzlswVzN7AYNnzmIKfKdw1zLjJLXC50EwJHZd1TKz3FMj7BY$ Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 3:21 PM Normajean.Brand > wrote: I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me - this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 - Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? 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A braille periodic table may frustrate them mor than help. https://www.nathantech.net/products/software/periodictable.php I believe there are other accessible options out there but they tend to be web based. This works nicely in a self-contained app. HTH Alex Marositz Accessible Technology Initiative Coordinator Information Security and Compliance California State University, Dominguez Hills From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Lucy GRECO Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 3:31 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] 3d printing ? hello: there are tons of ways to create a braille periodic table and threeD printing is not one of them. Check which app to see if they still have the excellent one they had. a small format a threeD printer is not worth the space it takes up. You need to find something that can print medium size or larger models. Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 3:21 PM Normajean.Brand > wrote: I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me - this will be my first. 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Now that JAWS works with the Word equation editor, both to create and read equations, I need to locate an accessible tutorial that will help her learn it. She uses a Braille display and knows UEB but not nemeth, so she needs JAWS to read symbols and formulas out loud so she can master the nemeth symbols in Braille. Thanks for your time! --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klatimer at udel.edu Thu Feb 17 09:55:05 2022 From: klatimer at udel.edu (Karen Latimer) Date: Thu Feb 17 09:56:05 2022 Subject: [Athen] FM System Recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've long been a fan of the Lightspeed (https://www.lightspeed-tek.com/) and Comtek systems for student use. The Roger system is also very popular.. K On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 10:59 AM Saunders, Kari L wrote: > Good Morning! > > > > I?m hoping to gather some recommendations for reliable (and affordable) FM > systems (not for student?s with hearing aids). > > Looking for the following features: > > - Directional and omnidirectional (lapel or desktop versions) > - Range appropriate for lecture hall sized room > - Easily programmable/usable > - Possibly able to connect to mic system already in place > - Not too cumbersome/noticeable > > > > I tried looking through the archives, but only saw a few posts from > several years ago. 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This is not my area of expertise, and I have reviewed their statement and the VPAT; but just wondering if any of you might be able to assist me here. Thanks in advance! Best Regards, Craig Levins [Florida Association of Higher Education and Disability] [cid:image002.jpg@01D8240D.91846F60] [cid:image003.jpg@01D8240D.91846F60] President FL State EIT Consortium ________________________________ Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this email communication may be subject to public disclosure. [cid:image086402.png@A91C6B8B.77146F2B] Craig Levins? Associate Vice President, Institutional Accessibility & ADA Coordinator , Broward College P: +1 (954) 2012313 E: clevins@broward.edu | W: broward.edu A: 1000 E Coconut Creek Pkwy. 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NJ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Craig Levins Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 1:50 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Labster Accessibility Hello Friends, Has anyone evaluated labster for accessibility? This is not my area of expertise, and I have reviewed their statement and the VPAT; but just wondering if any of you might be able to assist me here. Thanks in advance! Best Regards, Craig Levins [Florida Association of Higher Education and Disability] [cid:image002.jpg@01D8240E.E5F7BD30] [cid:image003.jpg@01D8240E.E5F7BD30] President FL State EIT Consortium ________________________________ Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this email communication may be subject to public disclosure. [cid:image004.png@01D8240E.E5F7BD30] Craig Levins? 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The student is able to read through the comments posted by peers on these sites but has had issues entering text and submitting their thoughts within the sites. I have offered alternatives such as a shared Google Doc and Canvas discussion board, but the instructor prefers a tool with similar visual engagement. We have contemplated having the student submit their ideas to the TA who will then post it to the site but I am hoping there is an alternative that meets both needs and provides the student equal access. If you have any options that are screen reader friendly or any tips on how this student can best navigate these sites, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Katy Wong ______________ Katy Wong She/Her/Hers Accessible Learning Technology Coordinator McBurney Disability Resource Center Student Affairs University of Wisconsin-Madison 608-263-2741 (Voice-Front desk) 608-225-7956 (Text-Front desk) 608-265-2998 (FAX) www.mcburney.wisc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu Thu Feb 17 14:43:02 2022 From: Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu (Stager, Catherine) Date: Thu Feb 17 14:43:32 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The Accessible Periodic table at Independence Science is a nice basic reference. https://independencescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/ptable-final-V3.html Very screen reader friendly. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 8:20 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Hi Robert, I checked with APH and they seem to be out of the tactile graph and weren?t sure about the booklet. I?m waiting to hear back from them. They were actually the first place I checked for one. I?ll keep checking with them. NJ From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:50 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] 3d printing ? APH has the periodic table in a tactile graph as well as a booklet. I?ve had three different students use these and found them helpful. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:21 PM To: ATHEN > Subject: [EXT][Athen] 3d printing ? CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I?m going to put this out there first and foremost, I have no idea what questions to ask and how to ask the questions I need to know/ask but here goes. I?m looking into getting a small (?) format (?) 3d printer. I have two blind students who know basic Braille (one better at it than the other one) who are taking intro chem and physics. Has anyone successfully printed the periodic table in 3d? Are there special techniques? Do you have the plans (?) you can share or direct me where I can find them? We have a license for Fusion 360 if that?s helpful. Oh, and I have a deaf/blind student coming Spring 2023. Lawd have mercy on me - this will be my first. Any other tips/hints are greatly appreciated. I did attend the ATHEN STEM conference last week and am going back over the presentation to glean more information, but thought I?d stop here as well. This is the first time in 20 years that we?ve had students who use Braille! So no equipment or software here anymore, all we had crumbled to dust. TIA NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 - Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Eclipse IDE open source software works pretty well in programming languages such as Java, JavaScript, CSS, HTML and others. It works well with Dragon Naturally Speaking. First, here is a link for a video demo of a programmer dictating Java using Dragon NaturallySpeaking & Eclipse IDE which demonstrates how it's done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22zH2He0vvk Next is a link for downloading the open source Eclipse IDE used for Java programming: https://www.eclipse.org/ide/ & look for the DOWNLOAD button. Finally, I have included a link for some practice exercises using Dragon NaturallySpeaking & Eclipse IDE for your student to get used to how it works. https://www.creativebloq.com/web-design/examples-of-javascript-1233964 This should hold your student on track for a while! As far as math dictation is concerned, my favorite of all time combination packages has gone out of business. I don't know if any of the software package components are available to purchase anymore. It is unfortunate. Math Talk and Scientific Notebook along with Dragon NaturallySpeaking 15.0 did a phenomenal job from everything from basic math all the way up through trigonometry. If I can find a copy of it somewhere still for sale, I will let you know. In the meantime,TextHelp has come up with some decent assistive technology for math called EquatIO. It allows for dictated math as well as scanning math and reading it as text-to-speech among other tools at its disposal. It is a separate software product from TextHelp, the company that handles Read & Write learning enhancement software. It uses its own dictation software for voice input. Here is a link for more information. https://www.texthelp.com/products/equatio/ There are some other software combinations using dictation for chemistry if it turns out your student(s) have a need for this in the future. Let me know. I'm glad to help. If it is of any value to you in your office at the college for your students, Dragon NaturallySpeaking works really well in other languages also. I personally use it in Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, & Italian. There are other languages available. Of course, if you have a student who needs to use their voice to create musical scores & music notation, Sibelius is a good choice: https://www.sibelius.com/products/audioscore/ultimate.html Because of a personal need on my part because I cannot use a six key Perkins brailler, I created a set of macros so that I could dictate in contracted braille ? yes, I dictate in the six dot format, speaking the dot combinations! Very geeky. Let me know if you have questions or if I can be of further assistance. Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . 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Coconut Creek, FL 33066 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 3:59 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Labster Accessibility CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Broward College. DO NOT click links or open attachments unless you are expecting the information and recognize the sender. ________________________________ Hi Craig, I have two blind Chemistry professors who LOVE Labster! I seen the demo?s of it and was fairly impressed with but that doesn?t mean that I?ve tested it for accessibility. However, the two Chem professors are lobbying for our college to purchase it, not just for them to use in their classes but for their students who have disabilities, and to reduce on campus risks of mixing chemicals. NJ From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Craig Levins Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 1:50 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Labster Accessibility Hello Friends, Has anyone evaluated labster for accessibility? This is not my area of expertise, and I have reviewed their statement and the VPAT; but just wondering if any of you might be able to assist me here. Thanks in advance! Best Regards, Craig Levins [Florida Association of Higher Education and Disability] [cid:image016.jpg@01D82440.3328D310] [cid:image017.jpg@01D82440.3328D310] President FL State EIT Consortium ________________________________ Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this email communication may be subject to public disclosure. [cid:image004.png@01D82440.33375200] Craig Levins? 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Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 10:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT][Athen] Seeking accessible tutorials on the Word equation editor CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. I have a blind student who is very proficient with JAWS. Now that JAWS works with the Word equation editor, both to create and read equations, I need to locate an accessible tutorial that will help her learn it. 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URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 11:59:27 2022 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype@gmail.com) Date: Fri Feb 18 12:00:21 2022 Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil vs Texthelp? Or both? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: NJ & ATHEN-ites, it's pretty expensive to maintain licenses for both Kurzweil and Read & Write. While I was working at Southern Oregon University, we decided to switch from Kurzweil to Read & Write. We decided it was too much of a jolt for students to have to learn a new learning enhancement software part of the way through their academic career, so we grandfathered in students who are currently using Kurzweil and gradually phased out the license over the course of a couple of years. Something to consider, in any case. Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 9:00 AM Normajean.Brand wrote: > Hello all, and Happy Friday! > > I?m curious to find out how many of you offer both Kurzweil and TextHelp, > or only one of the apps. We started out being a WYNN college but moved to > Kurzweil 3000 when WYNN was no longer being updated. I did a pilot of > TextHelp a long time ago (2001?), and although I liked it, I couldn?t get > any traction on it from students or anyone else, so we stayed with > Kurzweil. However, with the many advancements that TextHelp especially > reading Math, I?m leaning towards TextHelp and we?re already looking at > EquatIO. > > Is there justification for both apps? We?ve never had more than 50 > students using Kurzweil at any time, and usually it?s closer to maybe 7 > actively using it during any semester, since we started offering Kurzweil > in 2005. I know there are probably many more that could benefit from using > either app when looking at how many students are registered with our > Disability Services. > > Thoughts? > > Thank you for your time, > > NJ > > > > *NJ Brand, **BAAS-Psych, **ATAC* > > (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This > > *ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician*, Center for Learning Innovation > ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, > off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice > > ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS > ? Counseling & Ability Services > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have 100 students getting alternate format, maybe 70 of them actually use the license. Yet, I?m paying for 5000 seats for Kurzweil. As to which is better, this is definitely a YMMV situation. I like the tools in Texthelp and it does a good job with ePubs. It has the math component (EquatIO) if you want to pay the extra for it. It?s overlay-type toolbar makes it more functional across software and platforms. I do like that. Kurzweil still has a long way to go to catch up with STEM reading, and it is still a ?closed? environment and won?t read everything. But in the end, the cost difference is huge - Kurzweil is 5 times cheaper than Texthelp. So we stick with Kurzweil. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 9:59 AM To: ATHEN Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil vs Texthelp? Or both? Hello all, and Happy Friday! I?m curious to find out how many of you offer both Kurzweil and TextHelp, or only one of the apps. We started out being a WYNN college but moved to Kurzweil 3000 when WYNN was no longer being updated. I did a pilot of TextHelp a long time ago (2001?), and although I liked it, I couldn?t get any traction on it from students or anyone else, so we stayed with Kurzweil. However, with the many advancements that TextHelp especially reading Math, I?m leaning towards TextHelp and we?re already looking at EquatIO. Is there justification for both apps? We?ve never had more than 50 students using Kurzweil at any time, and usually it?s closer to maybe 7 actively using it during any semester, since we started offering Kurzweil in 2005. I know there are probably many more that could benefit from using either app when looking at how many students are registered with our Disability Services. Thoughts? Thank you for your time, NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 - Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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NJ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 2:48 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Kurzweil vs Texthelp? Or both? Both Kurzweil and TextHelp are expensive, and you can no longer just buy a ?handful? of licenses that you can install individually on a few student machines. Kurzweil will sell you a big chunk of seat licenses; Texthelp insists that you purchase a seat for every person on your campus - aka the cost is based on the population of your campus. The more enrollment, the higher the cost. Both of these entities continue to work (and thrive) on a model that works for K-12 (access for all), but does not work as well for higher ed. Students who do not need TTS are not going to use a TTS tool. They just are not. There is not enough education/outreach that would make more students use it. I have 100 students getting alternate format, maybe 70 of them actually use the license. Yet, I?m paying for 5000 seats for Kurzweil. As to which is better, this is definitely a YMMV situation. I like the tools in Texthelp and it does a good job with ePubs. It has the math component (EquatIO) if you want to pay the extra for it. It?s overlay-type toolbar makes it more functional across software and platforms. I do like that. Kurzweil still has a long way to go to catch up with STEM reading, and it is still a ?closed? environment and won?t read everything. But in the end, the cost difference is huge - Kurzweil is 5 times cheaper than Texthelp. So we stick with Kurzweil. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D824E6.5E5841F0] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 9:59 AM To: ATHEN > Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil vs Texthelp? Or both? Hello all, and Happy Friday! I?m curious to find out how many of you offer both Kurzweil and TextHelp, or only one of the apps. We started out being a WYNN college but moved to Kurzweil 3000 when WYNN was no longer being updated. I did a pilot of TextHelp a long time ago (2001?), and although I liked it, I couldn?t get any traction on it from students or anyone else, so we stayed with Kurzweil. However, with the many advancements that TextHelp especially reading Math, I?m leaning towards TextHelp and we?re already looking at EquatIO. Is there justification for both apps? We?ve never had more than 50 students using Kurzweil at any time, and usually it?s closer to maybe 7 actively using it during any semester, since we started offering Kurzweil in 2005. I know there are probably many more that could benefit from using either app when looking at how many students are registered with our Disability Services. Thoughts? Thank you for your time, NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 - Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 8916 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From normajean.brand at hccs.edu Fri Feb 18 14:57:05 2022 From: normajean.brand at hccs.edu (Normajean.Brand) Date: Fri Feb 18 14:57:31 2022 Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil vs Texthelp? Or both? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Wink! Thank you for your insight! I will keep that in mind. Especially when to implement if we change apps. I think we signed a new contract with Kurzweil in August last year and switching to something else wasn?t budgeted for this year, so it will likely be 2023 before anything really happens. NJ From: athen-list On Behalf Of foreigntype@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 1:59 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Kurzweil vs Texthelp? Or both? NJ & ATHEN-ites, it's pretty expensive to maintain licenses for both Kurzweil and Read & Write. While I was working at Southern Oregon University, we decided to switch from Kurzweil to Read & Write. We decided it was too much of a jolt for students to have to learn a new learning enhancement software part of the way through their academic career, so we grandfathered in students who are currently using Kurzweil and gradually phased out the license over the course of a couple of years. Something to consider, in any case. Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 9:00 AM Normajean.Brand > wrote: Hello all, and Happy Friday! I?m curious to find out how many of you offer both Kurzweil and TextHelp, or only one of the apps. We started out being a WYNN college but moved to Kurzweil 3000 when WYNN was no longer being updated. I did a pilot of TextHelp a long time ago (2001?), and although I liked it, I couldn?t get any traction on it from students or anyone else, so we stayed with Kurzweil. However, with the many advancements that TextHelp especially reading Math, I?m leaning towards TextHelp and we?re already looking at EquatIO. Is there justification for both apps? We?ve never had more than 50 students using Kurzweil at any time, and usually it?s closer to maybe 7 actively using it during any semester, since we started offering Kurzweil in 2005. I know there are probably many more that could benefit from using either app when looking at how many students are registered with our Disability Services. Thoughts? Thank you for your time, NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelnakai at weber.edu Fri Feb 18 14:57:56 2022 From: michaelnakai at weber.edu (Michael Nakai) Date: Fri Feb 18 14:58:46 2022 Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil vs Texthelp? Or both? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, Our university has already been on board the Kurzweil bus for a while, but one of our students has sent our office information on NaturalReader. First glance, it looks similar in capabilities to Kurzweil; the website says it's free to educational institutions. So I set up an account to see how it matches up. I haven't had much time to work with it because of short staffing and more of my time is spent taking on extra duties. But it looks like it's free for the first year as indicated by a countdown. But site licensing looks like it's a per seat among other options. Here is the website to look it over: https://www.naturalreaders.com/edu.html I hope this helps, On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 1:51 PM Susan Kelmer wrote: > Both Kurzweil and TextHelp are expensive, and you can no longer just buy a > ?handful? of licenses that you can install individually on a few student > machines. Kurzweil will sell you a big chunk of seat licenses; Texthelp > insists that you purchase a seat for every person on your campus ? aka the > cost is based on the population of your campus. The more enrollment, the > higher the cost. > > Both of these entities continue to work (and thrive) on a model that works > for K-12 (access for all), but does not work as well for higher ed. > Students who do not need TTS are not going to use a TTS tool. They just > are not. There is not enough education/outreach that would make more > students use it. I have 100 students getting alternate format, maybe 70 of > them actually use the license. Yet, I?m paying for 5000 seats for Kurzweil. > > As to which is better, this is definitely a YMMV situation. I like the > tools in Texthelp and it does a good job with ePubs. It has the math > component (EquatIO) if you want to pay the extra for it. It?s overlay-type > toolbar makes it more functional across software and platforms. I do like > that. > > Kurzweil still has a long way to go to catch up with STEM reading, and it > is still a ?closed? environment and won?t read everything. But in the end, > the cost difference is huge ? Kurzweil is 5 times cheaper than Texthelp. > So we stick with Kurzweil. > > > > > > *Susan Kelmer * > > Alternate Format Production Program Manager > > Disability Services > > Division of Student Affairs > > *T* 303 735 4836 > > *www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices > * > > > > > > [image: cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] > > > > *Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this > message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please > notify the sender immediately and delete this message. * > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Normajean.Brand > *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2022 9:59 AM > *To:* ATHEN > *Subject:* [Athen] Kurzweil vs Texthelp? Or both? > > > > Hello all, and Happy Friday! > > I?m curious to find out how many of you offer both Kurzweil and TextHelp, > or only one of the apps. We started out being a WYNN college but moved to > Kurzweil 3000 when WYNN was no longer being updated. I did a pilot of > TextHelp a long time ago (2001?), and although I liked it, I couldn?t get > any traction on it from students or anyone else, so we stayed with > Kurzweil. However, with the many advancements that TextHelp especially > reading Math, I?m leaning towards TextHelp and we?re already looking at > EquatIO. > > Is there justification for both apps? We?ve never had more than 50 > students using Kurzweil at any time, and usually it?s closer to maybe 7 > actively using it during any semester, since we started offering Kurzweil > in 2005. I know there are probably many more that could benefit from using > either app when looking at how many students are registered with our > Disability Services. > > Thoughts? > > Thank you for your time, > > NJ > > > > *NJ Brand, **BAAS-Psych, **ATAC* > > (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This > > *ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician*, Center for Learning Innovation > ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, > off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice > > ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS > ? 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: TextHelp has come up with Orbit Note (works on Chrome) which does a very similar kind of PDF scan to word OCR conversion. When you combine that with the ability of EquatIO to convert Math into alternative text, it?s almost too hard to resist, really. Kurzweil is making no headway whatsoever in OCR in Math and other STEM subjects. When we ran into how expensive it was for a site license for Read & Write, DSS engaged other departments on campus to buy into it as part of their department budget. Eventually what happened was the cost was built into the student fees. It really makes a lot of sense campuswide when you do that if every student can benefit, even in some small way, from the software and everyone contributes to it. Wink On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 2:55 PM Normajean.Brand wrote: > Hi Susan, > > Thank you for your valuable thoughts. We?re paying for 1500 seats and > reading your 5000 seats! Yikes! I?m not privy to the contract so I have no > idea what we?re paying for it. But one of the higher ups wants EquatIO, and > now wants Texthelp, and asked me to look into it. I asked for quotes but > haven?t heard back yet. I?m thinking if the cost difference is 5x more than > Kurzweil it might be that Texthelp is withdrawn from the want. I get > frustrated when things needed (like a new scanner to scan books) are denied > but this may happen. I use Kurzweil not only for my students but being > dyslexic myself, I use it. > > NJ > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Susan Kelmer > *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2022 2:48 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Kurzweil vs Texthelp? Or both? > > > > Both Kurzweil and TextHelp are expensive, and you can no longer just buy a > ?handful? of licenses that you can install individually on a few student > machines. Kurzweil will sell you a big chunk of seat licenses; Texthelp > insists that you purchase a seat for every person on your campus ? aka the > cost is based on the population of your campus. The more enrollment, the > higher the cost. > > Both of these entities continue to work (and thrive) on a model that works > for K-12 (access for all), but does not work as well for higher ed. > Students who do not need TTS are not going to use a TTS tool. They just > are not. There is not enough education/outreach that would make more > students use it. I have 100 students getting alternate format, maybe 70 of > them actually use the license. Yet, I?m paying for 5000 seats for Kurzweil. > > As to which is better, this is definitely a YMMV situation. I like the > tools in Texthelp and it does a good job with ePubs. It has the math > component (EquatIO) if you want to pay the extra for it. It?s overlay-type > toolbar makes it more functional across software and platforms. I do like > that. > > Kurzweil still has a long way to go to catch up with STEM reading, and it > is still a ?closed? environment and won?t read everything. But in the end, > the cost difference is huge ? Kurzweil is 5 times cheaper than Texthelp. > So we stick with Kurzweil. > > > > > > *Susan Kelmer * > > Alternate Format Production Program Manager > > Disability Services > > Division of Student Affairs > > *T* 303 735 4836 > > *www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices > * > > > > > > > > *Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this > message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please > notify the sender immediately and delete this message. * > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Normajean.Brand > *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2022 9:59 AM > *To:* ATHEN > *Subject:* [Athen] Kurzweil vs Texthelp? Or both? > > > > Hello all, and Happy Friday! > > I?m curious to find out how many of you offer both Kurzweil and TextHelp, > or only one of the apps. We started out being a WYNN college but moved to > Kurzweil 3000 when WYNN was no longer being updated. I did a pilot of > TextHelp a long time ago (2001?), and although I liked it, I couldn?t get > any traction on it from students or anyone else, so we stayed with > Kurzweil. However, with the many advancements that TextHelp especially > reading Math, I?m leaning towards TextHelp and we?re already looking at > EquatIO. > > Is there justification for both apps? We?ve never had more than 50 > students using Kurzweil at any time, and usually it?s closer to maybe 7 > actively using it during any semester, since we started offering Kurzweil > in 2005. I know there are probably many more that could benefit from using > either app when looking at how many students are registered with our > Disability Services. > > Thoughts? > > Thank you for your time, > > NJ > > > > *NJ Brand, **BAAS-Psych, **ATAC* > > (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This > > *ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician*, Center for Learning Innovation > ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, > off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice > > ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS > ? Counseling & Ability Services > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Wink Harner Assistive Technology Consulting and Training Alternative Text Production Portland OR. foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's important for the instructor to use a felt tip pen (typically medium point or larger is best), wet erase, or other marker to get nice bold lines that can be zoomed and that scan well. 3. If an instructor is set on using the chalkboard or dry erase board, and won't switch to a document camera, that's where other strategies like the a portable video magnifier, live peer notetaker screen sharing, copies from peer notetaker, cell phone pictures of the board, monocular, etc. (this one seems to depend a lot on student preference, especially as relatively few students have an interested in the portable video magnifier from my experience). Other list members may have more experience with specific portable video magnifier models. Todd Schwanke (he/him) UW-Madison From: athen-list On Behalf Of Wulf, Christina - wulfcx Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 12:37 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] video magnifiers for distance Hello everyone - We have a student who has trouble seeing distance content (like the blackboard or any projected materials). There a lot of new portable/desktop video magnifiers for distance viewing on the market since I last looked. Do any of you have good experiences with any in particular (or any to avoid)? Thanks very much! Christina Christina Wulf, MA CPACC | she/her Assistant Director, ODS Coordinator, Accessible Media & Technology ODS number: (540) 568-6705 Home office: (540) 324-3396 wulfcx@jmu.edu Office of Disability Services James Madison University Facebook | Instagram | Twitter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 10:37 AM Wulf, Christina - wulfcx wrote: > Hello everyone - > > We have a student who has trouble seeing distance content (like the > blackboard or any projected materials). There a lot of new portable/desktop > video magnifiers for distance viewing on the market since I last looked. Do > any of you have good experiences with any in particular (or any to avoid)? > > Thanks very much! > Christina > > > > *Christina Wulf, MA CPACC | she/her* > > Assistant Director, ODS > > Coordinator, Accessible Media & Technology > > ODS number: (540) 568-6705 > > Home office: (540) 324-3396 > > wulfcx@jmu.edu > > > > *Office of Disability Services * > > James Madison University > > Facebook | Instagram > | Twitter > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From normajean.brand at hccs.edu Tue Feb 22 08:08:02 2022 From: normajean.brand at hccs.edu (Normajean.Brand) Date: Tue Feb 22 08:08:29 2022 Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil vs Texthelp? Or both? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you, Michael. I?ll look into it. NJ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Michael Nakai Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 4:58 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Kurzweil vs Texthelp? Or both? Hello, Our university has already been on board the Kurzweil bus for a while, but one of our students has sent our office information on NaturalReader. First glance, it looks similar in capabilities to Kurzweil; the website says it's free to educational institutions. So I set up an account to see how it matches up. I haven't had much time to work with it because of short staffing and more of my time is spent taking on extra duties. But it looks like it's free for the first year as indicated by a countdown. But site licensing looks like it's a per seat among other options. Here is the website to look it over: https://www.naturalreaders.com/edu.html I hope this helps, On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 1:51 PM Susan Kelmer > wrote: Both Kurzweil and TextHelp are expensive, and you can no longer just buy a ?handful? of licenses that you can install individually on a few student machines. Kurzweil will sell you a big chunk of seat licenses; Texthelp insists that you purchase a seat for every person on your campus ? aka the cost is based on the population of your campus. The more enrollment, the higher the cost. Both of these entities continue to work (and thrive) on a model that works for K-12 (access for all), but does not work as well for higher ed. Students who do not need TTS are not going to use a TTS tool. They just are not. There is not enough education/outreach that would make more students use it. I have 100 students getting alternate format, maybe 70 of them actually use the license. Yet, I?m paying for 5000 seats for Kurzweil. As to which is better, this is definitely a YMMV situation. I like the tools in Texthelp and it does a good job with ePubs. It has the math component (EquatIO) if you want to pay the extra for it. It?s overlay-type toolbar makes it more functional across software and platforms. I do like that. Kurzweil still has a long way to go to catch up with STEM reading, and it is still a ?closed? environment and won?t read everything. But in the end, the cost difference is huge ? Kurzweil is 5 times cheaper than Texthelp. So we stick with Kurzweil. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D827D4.127D9640] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 9:59 AM To: ATHEN > Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil vs Texthelp? Or both? Hello all, and Happy Friday! I?m curious to find out how many of you offer both Kurzweil and TextHelp, or only one of the apps. We started out being a WYNN college but moved to Kurzweil 3000 when WYNN was no longer being updated. I did a pilot of TextHelp a long time ago (2001?), and although I liked it, I couldn?t get any traction on it from students or anyone else, so we stayed with Kurzweil. However, with the many advancements that TextHelp especially reading Math, I?m leaning towards TextHelp and we?re already looking at EquatIO. Is there justification for both apps? We?ve never had more than 50 students using Kurzweil at any time, and usually it?s closer to maybe 7 actively using it during any semester, since we started offering Kurzweil in 2005. I know there are probably many more that could benefit from using either app when looking at how many students are registered with our Disability Services. Thoughts? Thank you for your time, NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? 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I?m kinda hoping, after having a meeting with some key people Friday afternoon, that this is the direction we go ? engaging other departments across the system to buy into it, especially those teaching STEM courses. We?ll see. It?s an act of congress to get anything included in student fees around here. I am saddened that Kurzweil isn?t making more progress in this direction with regards to Math and other STEM subjects as well. NJ From: athen-list On Behalf Of foreigntype@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 5:12 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Kurzweil vs Texthelp? Or both? TextHelp has come up with Orbit Note (works on Chrome) which does a very similar kind of PDF scan to word OCR conversion. When you combine that with the ability of EquatIO to convert Math into alternative text, it?s almost too hard to resist, really. Kurzweil is making no headway whatsoever in OCR in Math and other STEM subjects. When we ran into how expensive it was for a site license for Read & Write, DSS engaged other departments on campus to buy into it as part of their department budget. Eventually what happened was the cost was built into the student fees. It really makes a lot of sense campuswide when you do that if every student can benefit, even in some small way, from the software and everyone contributes to it. Wink On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 2:55 PM Normajean.Brand > wrote: Hi Susan, Thank you for your valuable thoughts. We?re paying for 1500 seats and reading your 5000 seats! Yikes! I?m not privy to the contract so I have no idea what we?re paying for it. But one of the higher ups wants EquatIO, and now wants Texthelp, and asked me to look into it. I asked for quotes but haven?t heard back yet. I?m thinking if the cost difference is 5x more than Kurzweil it might be that Texthelp is withdrawn from the want. I get frustrated when things needed (like a new scanner to scan books) are denied but this may happen. I use Kurzweil not only for my students but being dyslexic myself, I use it. NJ From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 2:48 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Kurzweil vs Texthelp? Or both? Both Kurzweil and TextHelp are expensive, and you can no longer just buy a ?handful? of licenses that you can install individually on a few student machines. Kurzweil will sell you a big chunk of seat licenses; Texthelp insists that you purchase a seat for every person on your campus ? aka the cost is based on the population of your campus. The more enrollment, the higher the cost. Both of these entities continue to work (and thrive) on a model that works for K-12 (access for all), but does not work as well for higher ed. Students who do not need TTS are not going to use a TTS tool. They just are not. There is not enough education/outreach that would make more students use it. I have 100 students getting alternate format, maybe 70 of them actually use the license. Yet, I?m paying for 5000 seats for Kurzweil. As to which is better, this is definitely a YMMV situation. I like the tools in Texthelp and it does a good job with ePubs. It has the math component (EquatIO) if you want to pay the extra for it. It?s overlay-type toolbar makes it more functional across software and platforms. I do like that. Kurzweil still has a long way to go to catch up with STEM reading, and it is still a ?closed? environment and won?t read everything. But in the end, the cost difference is huge ? Kurzweil is 5 times cheaper than Texthelp. So we stick with Kurzweil. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D827D4.AC0BE3C0] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 9:59 AM To: ATHEN > Subject: [Athen] Kurzweil vs Texthelp? Or both? Hello all, and Happy Friday! I?m curious to find out how many of you offer both Kurzweil and TextHelp, or only one of the apps. We started out being a WYNN college but moved to Kurzweil 3000 when WYNN was no longer being updated. I did a pilot of TextHelp a long time ago (2001?), and although I liked it, I couldn?t get any traction on it from students or anyone else, so we stayed with Kurzweil. However, with the many advancements that TextHelp especially reading Math, I?m leaning towards TextHelp and we?re already looking at EquatIO. Is there justification for both apps? We?ve never had more than 50 students using Kurzweil at any time, and usually it?s closer to maybe 7 actively using it during any semester, since we started offering Kurzweil in 2005. I know there are probably many more that could benefit from using either app when looking at how many students are registered with our Disability Services. Thoughts? Thank you for your time, NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, off-campus, due to COVID-19 until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? 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I want to use this test when training and or hiring some staff. i need to see if they can properly identify what w3c criteria is what and how to classify a problem. Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhayman at olympic.edu Thu Feb 24 13:35:17 2022 From: dhayman at olympic.edu (Hayman, Douglass) Date: Thu Feb 24 13:35:54 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] - W3C skills testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lucy, Someone who has gotten the Trusted Tester certification would be one method although going through that takes 85 or more hours per that organization?s estimate. Deque University training is excellent and covers many angles or target audiences like developers versus content creators. Webaim has excellent training online virtual and in-person too. Would this be a student worker who might only do this work 20-hours a week, graduate and then move on leaving you to once again find and or train their replacement? Or would this be a full time person you assess for knowledge then are confident that they?ll use that knowledge in the manner you need? Doug Hayman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Olympic College dhayman@olympic.edu (360) 475-7632 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Lucy GRECO Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 1:13 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXTERNAL] - [Athen] W3C skills testing CAUTION: This email came from a non-OC system or external source. Beware of phishing and social engineering! hello: i was wondering if anyone knows of a good test for seeing how well someone knows the w3c. I want to use this test when training and or hiring some staff. i need to see if they can properly identify what w3c criteria is what and how to classify a problem. Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lgreco at berkeley.edu Thu Feb 24 13:38:42 2022 From: lgreco at berkeley.edu (Lucy GRECO) Date: Thu Feb 24 13:39:51 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] - W3C skills testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hi this is for some new roles we are creating i just need 3 or 4 know answer sinaryos to add to the interview. Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 1:36 PM Hayman, Douglass wrote: > Lucy, > > > > Someone who has gotten the Trusted Tester certification would be one > method although going through that takes 85 or more hours per that > organization?s estimate. > > > > Deque University training is excellent and covers many angles or target > audiences like developers versus content creators. > > > > Webaim has excellent training online virtual and in-person too. > > > > Would this be a student worker who might only do this work 20-hours a > week, graduate and then move on leaving you to once again find and or train > their replacement? Or would this be a full time person you assess for > knowledge then are confident that they?ll use that knowledge in the manner > you need? > > > > Doug Hayman > > IT Accessibility Coordinator > > Information Technology > > Olympic College > > dhayman@olympic.edu > > (360) 475-7632 > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Lucy GRECO > *Sent:* Thursday, February 24, 2022 1:13 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] - [Athen] W3C skills testing > > > > CAUTION: This email came from a non-OC system or external source. Beware > of phishing and social engineering! > > > > hello: > > i was wondering if anyone knows of a good test for seeing how well > someone knows the w3c. I want to use this test when training and or > hiring some staff. i need to see if they can properly identify what w3c > criteria is what and how to classify a problem. > > > > > *Lucy Greco*, Web Accessibility Evangelist > > Campus IT Experience > Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | > https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces > > *We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate.* > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I can share them with you if you > like. > > -Howard > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:14 PM Lucy GRECO wrote: > >> hello: >> i was wondering if anyone knows of a good test for seeing how well >> someone knows the w3c. I want to use this test when training and or >> hiring some staff. i need to see if they can properly identify what w3c >> criteria is what and how to classify a problem. >> >> >> >> >> Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist >> >> Campus IT Experience >> Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | >> https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces >> >> We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. 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I want to use this test when training and or >> hiring some staff. i need to see if they can properly identify what w3c >> criteria is what and how to classify a problem. >> >> >> >> >> Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist >> >> Campus IT Experience >> Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | >> https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces >> >> We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. 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URL: From M.Deeprose at soton.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 23:43:04 2022 From: M.Deeprose at soton.ac.uk (Matthew Deeprose) Date: Thu Feb 24 23:43:16 2022 Subject: [Athen] W3C skills testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi everyone, this list of accessibility interview questions from Scott O'Hara is very useful. https://scottaohara.github.io/accessibility_interview_questions/ Matthew Deeprose University of Southampton, UK From: athen-list On Behalf Of Dawn Okinaka Sent: 24 February 2022 22:17 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing CAUTION: This e-mail originated outside the University of Southampton. Howard, I would be interested in the tests also, as I am working on creating potential new positions. Thank you, Dawn Dawn Okinaka, M.A Director, CCC Accessibility Center California Community Colleges Technology Center dokinaka@ccctechcenter.org 530-879-4132 DHS Trusted Tester #TT-2112-01518 On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 1:44 PM Howard Kramer > wrote: Hi Lucy, I have a course with 2 exams - one test is on semantics and structure and the second, specifically tests students on their ability to match accessibility issues to WCAG guidelines. I can share them with you if you like. -Howard On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:14 PM Lucy GRECO > wrote: hello: i was wondering if anyone knows of a good test for seeing how well someone knows the w3c. I want to use this test when training and or hiring some staff. i need to see if they can properly identify what w3c criteria is what and how to classify a problem. Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. 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URL: From lgreco at berkeley.edu Fri Feb 25 09:27:51 2022 From: lgreco at berkeley.edu (Lucy GRECO) Date: Fri Feb 25 09:28:56 2022 Subject: [Athen] W3C skills testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hello these are great thanks however contrary to what i need smile i do want the person to be able to say because of x this is covered under 1.1.1. smile lucy Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:45 PM Matthew Deeprose wrote: > Hi everyone, this list of accessibility interview questions from Scott > O?Hara is very useful. > > > > https://scottaohara.github.io/accessibility_interview_questions/ > > > > Matthew Deeprose > > University of Southampton, UK > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Dawn Okinaka > *Sent:* 24 February 2022 22:17 > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing > > > > *CAUTION:* This e-mail originated outside the University of Southampton. > > Howard, > > I would be interested in the tests also, as I am working on creating > potential new positions. > > Thank you, > > Dawn > > > Dawn Okinaka, M.A > > Director, CCC Accessibility Center > > California Community Colleges Technology Center > > dokinaka@ccctechcenter.org > > 530-879-4132 > > DHS Trusted Tester #TT-2112-01518 > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 1:44 PM Howard Kramer wrote: > > Hi Lucy, > > > > I have a course with 2 exams - one test is on semantics and structure and > the second, specifically tests students on their ability to match > accessibility issues to WCAG guidelines. I can share them with you if you > like. > > > > -Howard > > > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:14 PM Lucy GRECO wrote: > > hello: > > i was wondering if anyone knows of a good test for seeing how well > someone knows the w3c. I want to use this test when training and or > hiring some staff. i need to see if they can properly identify what w3c > criteria is what and how to classify a problem. > > > > > > *Lucy Greco*, Web Accessibility Evangelist > > Campus IT Experience > Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | > https://webaccess.berkeley.edu > > Follow me on twitter @accessaces > > *We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate.* > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Howard > > > > Howard Kramer > > Conference Coordinator > > Accessing Higher Ground > > 303-492-8672 > > cell: 720-351-8668 > > > > Sign up to access the recordings from the *2020 Accessing Higher > Ground Conference > * > and for AHG 2021 'Watch Parties > > .' > > > > Sign up to our mailing list to receive announcements > > . > > > > Complete program information and registration is open for AHEAD's full > line-up of Spring 2021 webinars > > . > > > > Not yet a member of AHEAD? *We welcome you to join AHEAD now. > * > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know that things are busy right now, but please commit to supporting this, make room in your schedule, show up and SHARE. I have included a link to a Complete Advocacy & Action Toolkit Google Drive . This Toolkit includes Disability Advocacy & Action Alert , Social Media Action Kit , Instructions on Making Public Comment at March 2nd Board of Trustees Meeting and more! 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In my opinion, memorizing how to properly identify what w3c criteria is and how to classify a problem does not always tell me how well the intereviewee understands accessibility or w3c. Howard mentioned he has a test on matching accessibility issues to WCAG guidelines that could be used depending on the job function to test if the person understands the issues and how to apply it to WCAG. Lydia Harkey EIR Accessibility Program Manager Texas A&M University System 512-876-4452 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Matthew Deeprose Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 1:43 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing **External Email** Hi everyone, this list of accessibility interview questions from Scott O'Hara is very useful. https://scottaohara.github.io/accessibility_interview_questions/ Matthew Deeprose University of Southampton, UK From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Dawn Okinaka Sent: 24 February 2022 22:17 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing CAUTION: This e-mail originated outside the University of Southampton. Howard, I would be interested in the tests also, as I am working on creating potential new positions. Thank you, Dawn Dawn Okinaka, M.A Director, CCC Accessibility Center California Community Colleges Technology Center dokinaka@ccctechcenter.org 530-879-4132 DHS Trusted Tester #TT-2112-01518 On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 1:44 PM Howard Kramer > wrote: Hi Lucy, I have a course with 2 exams - one test is on semantics and structure and the second, specifically tests students on their ability to match accessibility issues to WCAG guidelines. I can share them with you if you like. -Howard On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:14 PM Lucy GRECO > wrote: hello: i was wondering if anyone knows of a good test for seeing how well someone knows the w3c. I want to use this test when training and or hiring some staff. i need to see if they can properly identify what w3c criteria is what and how to classify a problem. Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. 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Filter keys can assist to prevent accidental double-tapping of keys on the keyboard, but I am not sure what free options exist to prevent accidental double-tapping of a mouse. I see based on a Google search that some mice have been developed that have filters for tremor-induced actions, such as shaking the mouse or clicking more than intended. Has anyone had experience with these mice or other options? Thanks! Robin [Pikes Peak Community College Logo, links to website] Robin Eckelberry MS Access Specialist Accessibility Services office 719-502-3325 fax 719-502-3444 main office 719-502-3333 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message from your system. 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Doug Hayman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Olympic College dhayman@olympic.edu (360) 475-7632 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Eckelberry, Robin Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 2:13 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [EXTERNAL] - [Athen] Computer mice for tremors CAUTION: This email came from a non-OC system or external source. Beware of phishing and social engineering! Hi ATHEN! I am working with a student who is R-hand dominant and would like to continue using R-hand to interact with the computer. It is a Windows 11. The R-hand has recently developed an intention tremor. Filter keys can assist to prevent accidental double-tapping of keys on the keyboard, but I am not sure what free options exist to prevent accidental double-tapping of a mouse. I see based on a Google search that some mice have been developed that have filters for tremor-induced actions, such as shaking the mouse or clicking more than intended. Has anyone had experience with these mice or other options? Thanks! Robin [Pikes Peak Community College Logo, links to website] Robin Eckelberry MS Access Specialist Accessibility Services office 719-502-3325 fax 719-502-3444 main office 719-502-3333 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message from your system. Thank you for your cooperation and assistance. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Robin, Does the tremor impact just the forefinger when using a standard mouse? If so, might something like the Kensington Expert Mouse trackball allow for tapping instead with the thumb? I don't have such a tremor but prefer this trackball and use if for both my work and personal computer. Doug Hayman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Olympic College dhayman@olympic.edu (360) 475-7632 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Eckelberry, Robin Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 2:13 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [EXTERNAL] - [Athen] Computer mice for tremors CAUTION: This email came from a non-OC system or external source. Beware of phishing and social engineering! Hi ATHEN! I am working with a student who is R-hand dominant and would like to continue using R-hand to interact with the computer. It is a Windows 11. The R-hand has recently developed an intention tremor. Filter keys can assist to prevent accidental double-tapping of keys on the keyboard, but I am not sure what free options exist to prevent accidental double-tapping of a mouse. I see based on a Google search that some mice have been developed that have filters for tremor-induced actions, such as shaking the mouse or clicking more than intended. Has anyone had experience with these mice or other options? Thanks! Robin [Pikes Peak Community College Logo, links to website] Robin Eckelberry MS Access Specialist Accessibility Services office 719-502-3325 fax 719-502-3444 main office 719-502-3333 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message from your system. 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On trying to find that online the infogrip page was kicking up bad ssl cert messages but maybe another similar device is out there. Doug Hayman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Olympic College dhayman@olympic.edu (360) 475-7632 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Eckelberry, Robin Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 2:23 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] - Computer mice for tremors CAUTION: This email came from a non-OC system or external source. Beware of phishing and social engineering! Hi Doug, Thank you for your question. All digits are affected, but we can definitely trial a trackball mouse. Thank you for the idea! Sincerely, Robin From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Hayman, Douglass Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 3:20 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] - Computer mice for tremors CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Robin, Does the tremor impact just the forefinger when using a standard mouse? If so, might something like the Kensington Expert Mouse trackball allow for tapping instead with the thumb? I don't have such a tremor but prefer this trackball and use if for both my work and personal computer. Doug Hayman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Olympic College dhayman@olympic.edu (360) 475-7632 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Eckelberry, Robin Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 2:13 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [EXTERNAL] - [Athen] Computer mice for tremors CAUTION: This email came from a non-OC system or external source. Beware of phishing and social engineering! Hi ATHEN! I am working with a student who is R-hand dominant and would like to continue using R-hand to interact with the computer. It is a Windows 11. The R-hand has recently developed an intention tremor. Filter keys can assist to prevent accidental double-tapping of keys on the keyboard, but I am not sure what free options exist to prevent accidental double-tapping of a mouse. I see based on a Google search that some mice have been developed that have filters for tremor-induced actions, such as shaking the mouse or clicking more than intended. Has anyone had experience with these mice or other options? Thanks! Robin [Pikes Peak Community College Logo, links to website] Robin Eckelberry MS Access Specialist Accessibility Services office 719-502-3325 fax 719-502-3444 main office 719-502-3333 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message from your system. Thank you for your cooperation and assistance. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 4800 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From chagnon at pubcom.com Mon Feb 28 15:22:01 2022 From: chagnon at pubcom.com (chagnon@pubcom.com) Date: Mon Feb 28 15:22:34 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] - Computer mice for tremors In-Reply-To: References: <0f9fa7af76ab45729fca80cadd4771ff@ppcc.edu> Message-ID: <20220228182201.Horde.pV2hIsqgPp2Qm4MUrzUtojv@pubcom.com> A colleague with tremors uses a vertical mouse, which he finds reduces the amount and severity of the tremors. For him, rotating his hand 90 degrees calms down the tremors. I've used models by Evoluent, Logitech, and Anker. Decent reviews at https://www.lifewire.com/best-vertical-mice-4172422 ?Bevi Chagnon www.PubCom.com | Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing Quoting "Hayman, Douglass" : > Saw one called SteadyMouse just now when searching. The vendor site > doesn't show a video of it in use but found one on YouTube. > > Haven't used it myself but maybe something like that would help. > > I thought that the expensive Penny and Giles trackball had a > keyguard type cover that let one avoid repeated right/left button > clicks. On trying to find that online the infogrip page was kicking > up bad ssl cert messages but maybe another similar device is out > there. > > Doug Hayman > IT Accessibility Coordinator > Information Technology > Olympic College > dhayman@olympic.edu > (360) 475-7632 > > > > From: athen-list On > Behalf Of Eckelberry, Robin > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 2:23 PM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] - Computer mice for tremors > > CAUTION: This email came from a non-OC system or external source. > Beware of phishing and social engineering! > > Hi Doug, > > Thank you for your question. > All digits are affected, but we can definitely trial a trackball mouse. > Thank you for the idea! > > Sincerely, > Robin > > From: athen-list > > On Behalf Of Hayman, > Douglass > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 3:20 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] - Computer mice for tremors > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado > Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments > unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please > contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. > Robin, > > Does the tremor impact just the forefinger when using a standard mouse? > > If so, might something like the Kensington Expert Mouse trackball > allow for tapping instead with the thumb? I don't have such a > tremor but prefer this trackball and use if for both my work and > personal computer. > > Doug Hayman > IT Accessibility Coordinator > Information Technology > Olympic College > dhayman@olympic.edu > (360) 475-7632 > > > > From: athen-list > > On Behalf Of Eckelberry, > Robin > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 2:13 PM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] - [Athen] Computer mice for tremors > > CAUTION: This email came from a non-OC system or external source. > Beware of phishing and social engineering! > > Hi ATHEN! > > I am working with a student who is R-hand dominant and would like to > continue using R-hand to interact with the computer. It is a Windows > 11. The R-hand has recently developed an intention tremor. > Filter keys can assist to prevent accidental double-tapping of keys > on the keyboard, but I am not sure what free options exist to > prevent accidental double-tapping of a mouse. > > I see based on a Google search that some mice have been developed > that have filters for tremor-induced actions, such as shaking the > mouse or clicking more than intended. > Has anyone had experience with these mice or other options? > > Thanks! > Robin > > > [Pikes Peak Community College Logo, links to website] > Robin Eckelberry MS > Access Specialist > Accessibility Services > > office 719-502-3325 > fax 719-502-3444 > main office 719-502-3333 > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message is for the sole use of > the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or > distribution is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in > error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and > destroy all copies of the original message from your system. Thank > you for your cooperation and assistance. From danc at uw.edu Mon Feb 28 15:32:55 2022 From: danc at uw.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Mon Feb 28 15:33:50 2022 Subject: [Athen] Computer mice for tremors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Two simple and quick solutions for immediate access: 1. If the tremors are just on the dominant side, it's usually not too difficult to learn to use the other hand for most tasks, including mouse control. 2. Use the numeric keypad as a mouse. "MouseKeys" is what it was called in prior versions of windows, but typing the same into the Win start menu will also get you there. If a typical laptop is primary device, then and external keyboard or numeric keypad may be needed. If the tremoring makes hitting keys accurately difficult, a keyguard may also be needed. -*- Dan On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 2:14 PM Eckelberry, Robin wrote: > Hi ATHEN! > > > > I am working with a student who is R-hand dominant and would like to > continue using R-hand to interact with the computer. It is a Windows 11. > The R-hand has recently developed an intention tremor. > > Filter keys can assist to prevent accidental double-tapping of keys on the > keyboard, but I am not sure what free options exist to prevent accidental > double-tapping of a mouse. > > > > I see based on a Google search that some mice have been developed that > have filters for tremor-induced actions, such as shaking the mouse or > clicking more than intended. > > Has anyone had experience with these mice or other options? > > > > Thanks! > > Robin > > > > > > [image: Pikes Peak Community College Logo, links to website] > > > *Robin Eckelberry* *MS* > *Access Specialist* > Accessibility Services > > *office *719-502-3325 > *fax *719-502-3444 > *main office *719-502-3333 > > > > *Confidentiality Notice:** This e-mail message is for the sole use of > the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > prohibited. 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Certainly going with a headset microphone would be the first step. I keep seeing folks struggling with speech trying to use the crappy built-in microphones on their laptops. I've been playing with LipSurf a bit -- it's a really cool extension for the Chrome browser that works much better than Dragon for browsing. Again, I'd recommend a headset over a desktop/laptop microphone. Could be this is a solution for general web browsing but if speech is difficult, it may not be worth spending a bunch of time pursuing. -*- Dan On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:46 AM Romack, Justin wrote: > Howdy assistive technology aficionados! > > > > I?m working with a student who has damage to their brain stem as a result > of cancer and treatment. > > > > This student?s noted barrier is in writing. Their speech and dexterity / > motor control has been impacted. I can have a conversation with this > student and understand them reasonably well, but I do have concerns about > Dragon?s effectiveness. They did mention trying the built-in speech > recognition inside of MS Word and stated this solution was not useful. They > also have difficulty using a mouse or keyboard for extended periods of time. > > > > We will look at Dragon as an option, but I?m curious what other solutions > or strategies you all might suggest? > > > > Always grateful! > > > > Thanks, > > J > > > > > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > *Justin Romack* | Assistive Technology Coordinator > > Disability Resources | Texas A&M University > > 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 > > > > ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > *DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS *| One Division. 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Twitter: @SBCTCWashington ? Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Howard Kramer Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 1:41 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing Hi Lucy, I have a course with 2 exams - one test is on semantics and structure and the second, specifically tests students on their ability to match accessibility issues to WCAG guidelines. I can share them with you if you like. -Howard On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:14 PM Lucy GRECO > wrote: hello: i was wondering if anyone knows of a good test for seeing how well someone knows the w3c. I want to use this test when training and or hiring some staff. i need to see if they can properly identify what w3c criteria is what and how to classify a problem. 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Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Doug Mantle Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 8:44 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network ; QIAT@LSV.UKY.EDU Subject: [Athen] You Are Invited - DISCOVER SPEECHIFY - 4 March 2022 @ 1:30pm Eastern - N.O.A.T. Webinar Sharing an invite to this upcoming webinar. Hoping you can join. Please see details below.... Doug -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good day! Please join us for our upcoming webinar... On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 1:30pm Eastern, join The Network of Assistive Technologists as we welcome Speechify Discover Speechify - Meet The Founder and CEO - Learn from the Product Manager - Get the details from their Account Executive Registration is NOW OPEN - For more details and to register, please visit the N.O.A.T. Events Website. We look forward to seeing you online Friday, March 4, 2022 at 1:30pm Eastern If you have any questions, please reach out. Take care, The Network of Assistive Technologists www.NOAT.ca | info@NOAT.ca [https://www.kings.uwo.ca/kings/assets/Image/email/accessibility-counselling.png] King?s University College is committed to accessibility for persons with disabilities. Please contact us if you have any particular accommodation requirements or require information in an alternate format. ________________________________ Confidentiality Notice: The contents of this communication, including any attachment(s), are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient (or are not receiving this communication on behalf of the intended recipient), please notify the sender immediately and delete or destroy this communication without reading it, and without making, forwarding, or retaining any copy or record of it or its contents. 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Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Dan Comden Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 3:46 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] AT solution for student with brain injury Hey Justin, I'd look at a couple of different approaches for this student, esp if fatigue is a factor. They can switch between methods to reduce fatigue that could result from a single approach. Something like a head pointer, on-screen keyboard (with word prediction) can give hands/arms a rest. Combine that with something that allows for word prediction (is Co:Writer still a thing?) in using standard input. There's always switch input as a fallback but from your description, it may not be needed. Based on your summary, I don't think pursuing speech input makes much sense. If basic dictation in Windows is not working well, it's likely that Dragon will be just as frustrating. Certainly going with a headset microphone would be the first step. I keep seeing folks struggling with speech trying to use the crappy built-in microphones on their laptops. I've been playing with LipSurf a bit -- it's a really cool extension for the Chrome browser that works much better than Dragon for browsing. Again, I'd recommend a headset over a desktop/laptop microphone. Could be this is a solution for general web browsing but if speech is difficult, it may not be worth spending a bunch of time pursuing. -*- Dan On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:46 AM Romack, Justin > wrote: Howdy assistive technology aficionados! I?m working with a student who has damage to their brain stem as a result of cancer and treatment. This student?s noted barrier is in writing. Their speech and dexterity / motor control has been impacted. I can have a conversation with this student and understand them reasonably well, but I do have concerns about Dragon?s effectiveness. They did mention trying the built-in speech recognition inside of MS Word and stated this solution was not useful. They also have difficulty using a mouse or keyboard for extended periods of time. We will look at Dragon as an option, but I?m curious what other solutions or strategies you all might suggest? Always grateful! Thanks, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. 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Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Howard Kramer Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 1:41 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing Hi Lucy, I have a course with 2 exams - one test is on semantics and structure and the second, specifically tests students on their ability to match accessibility issues to WCAG guidelines. I can share them with you if you like. -Howard On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:14 PM Lucy GRECO > wrote: hello: i was wondering if anyone knows of a good test for seeing how well someone knows the w3c. I want to use this test when training and or hiring some staff. i need to see if they can properly identify what w3c criteria is what and how to classify a problem. Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. 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Steven Bianco, MA Florida SouthWestern State College Office of Information Technology Coordinator, Accessibility and LMS Administration Phone: (239) 432-6774 or X16774 Email: Steven.Bianco@FSW.edu Follow the Florida State EIT Consortium on twitter and LinkedIn ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Howard Kramer Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 8:56:56 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing CAUTION: Please Be Aware - This Email Originated Outside of FSW Hi Monica, Not yet, I need to work on converting it from a Canvas exam to a PDF. -Howard ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Monica Olsson Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 5:06 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing Hi Howard, Did you send out your course with two exams that you mentioned in your previous email? Thanks, Monica [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass] Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington ? Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Howard Kramer Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 1:41 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing Hi Lucy, I have a course with 2 exams - one test is on semantics and structure and the second, specifically tests students on their ability to match accessibility issues to WCAG guidelines. I can share them with you if you like. -Howard On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:14 PM Lucy GRECO > wrote: hello: i was wondering if anyone knows of a good test for seeing how well someone knows the w3c. I want to use this test when training and or hiring some staff. i need to see if they can properly identify what w3c criteria is what and how to classify a problem. 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