From lissner.2 at osu.edu Sun Jan 2 22:33:27 2022 From: lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, L. Scott) Date: Mon Jan 3 09:06:09 2022 Subject: [Athen] Celebrate World Braille Day on January 4. Message-ID: Louis Braille was Born January 4, 1809 which is now designated as World Braille Day by the UN. In the US, January is is Braille Awareness Month; since 1992 the first week of January has been designated Ohio Braille Literacy Week (ORC: 5.226) * Test your knowledge Ten Braille Facts * Support Braille literacy Ohio Regional Braille Challenge * Submit a proposal on education, music or power and disability for the 22nd annual Multiple Perspe Access to communication in the widest sense is access to knowledge. Louis Braille Braille is knowledge. Knowledge is Power. Louis Braille Learning to read music in Braille and play by ear helped me develop a damn good memory. Ray Charles L. 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I feel like we have some logistical hurdles to jump in the next two weeks: (1) The textbook (which I have as a PDF), (2) Lecture notes (which I also have a PDF), (3) Individual and groupwork assignments (which are still being developed), and (4) Assessments in Canvas. This student is not proficient with screen reading tech anyway, but has said Nemeth Braille is the only modality they've been able to use for math in the past. I'd be curious if you can share input on the following: 1. Best workflow for readying math content in a PDF to transcription in Braille. 2. Best methods for a student to complete their work in Nemeth Braille and have this transcribed to print. 3. Resources on audio-based scientific and graphing calculators, whether a physical unit or digital option. 4. Recommendations for Braille transcription vendors (sending off-list may work best). 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Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Howdy y'all! Happy new year - and best wishes as you start a new semester! We have a blind student who has added a math class to their schedule this spring. I feel like we have some logistical hurdles to jump in the next two weeks: (1) The textbook (which I have as a PDF), (2) Lecture notes (which I also have a PDF), (3) Individual and groupwork assignments (which are still being developed), and (4) Assessments in Canvas. This student is not proficient with screen reading tech anyway, but has said Nemeth Braille is the only modality they've been able to use for math in the past. I'd be curious if you can share input on the following: 1. Best workflow for readying math content in a PDF to transcription in Braille. 2. Best methods for a student to complete their work in Nemeth Braille and have this transcribed to print. 3. Resources on audio-based scientific and graphing calculators, whether a physical unit or digital option. 4. Recommendations for Braille transcription vendors (sending off-list may work best). I am a little concerned about the turnaround time, especially considering the volume of material and the amount of content we will not have access to ahead of the semester, but hopeful y'all have some good resources and processes to consider. Grateful for the collective wisdom of this group! Best, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu Wed Jan 5 09:30:04 2022 From: Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu (Stager, Catherine) Date: Wed Jan 5 09:30:27 2022 Subject: [Athen] Canvas and Dragon Naturally Speaking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50497e6ed1c34b3b98674f517b4b8887@frontrange.edu> Hi Lori, Perhaps you could clarify a bit? is it voice input or voice navigation that is being sought? Much of how accessible the Canvas platform is depends on the implementation by your university. I was able to input voice text when working in Canvas a couple years ago, but did not attempt navigating. I would have tried using mousegrid to do so. Best regards, Cath Catherine M. Stager Assistive Technology Specialist Catherine.Stager@frontrange.edu (720) 336-1245 [Front Range Community College - Boulder County Campus] Disability Support Services - Assistive Technology Check out our Getting Started Guides for At Home Support! https://bit.ly/gettingstartedathome Create Inclusive E-mail and Materials https://bit.ly/inclusive-checklist From: athen-list On Behalf Of Lane, Lori Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 10:15 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network ; ITACCESS@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [Athen] Canvas and Dragon Naturally Speaking CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Happy New Year! Does anyone know about this issue with Dragon Naturally Speaking in Canvas? I found that it is probably still not accessible based on using Canvas with speech recognition software. The last comment was in 2020. Thank you, Lori ------- Lori Lane, M.Ed. IT Accessibility Specialist University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 18481 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Wed Jan 5 11:59:54 2022 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype@gmail.com) Date: Wed Jan 5 12:01:05 2022 Subject: [Athen] Canvas and Dragon Naturally Speaking In-Reply-To: <50497e6ed1c34b3b98674f517b4b8887@frontrange.edu> References: <50497e6ed1c34b3b98674f517b4b8887@frontrange.edu> Message-ID: Hi all, Nuance has been hard-pressed to keep up with all the cool, useful, necessary tools many of us depend on in voice recognition and voice navigation software. That said, the ease of use of voice navigation with DNS Individual Professional has fallen by the wayside and I've found an add-on tool/utility program which *helps* make many of the DNS tools function better or replaces those that have fallen out of development. The utility program is called VoxAid, downloadable online and seamlessly integrated into the DNS toolbar. There's a version of this software specifically for assistive technology, another for notetaking, and another for mind-mapping. Among other distinct advantages that this add-on offers, there is a more reliable mouse-grid function for voice navigation (an important tool as Cath pointed out!), as well as a great tool to create macros which can be customized for voice navigation, repetitive keystrokes, or repeated functions. Here's a link to check it out. I don't know if Michael (developer) offers demos other than what's available on the website. https://voxaid.co.uk/voxaid-at-edition-for-dsa-and-access-to-work/ Mostly what I've seen in my work with Dragon NS is a "failed" interaction for DNS to dictate directly into websites. Readers Digest explanation is website development & online software programs' HTML code. Doesn't matter, really. There are some workarounds that take some getting used to but which DO work: principally, using the DNS Dictation Box and taking the extra steps to set it to open automatically, then voice SELECT ALL and COPY THAT, CLICK TRANSFER and paste into the desired location (browser bar, text box, etc.). Learning to use the mouse grid for navigation and practice to become OK with the commands needed to move the mouse and select by voice is also important. There are some decent practice exercises for just this very task included in the last version of the DNS 15.0 Workbook. Here's a link for that, too: https://www.nuance.com/content/dam/nuance/en_us/collateral/dragon/guide/gd-dragon-professional-individual-and-dragon-legal-individual-workbook-en-us.pdf Hope this is helpful in general, even though it's not specific to Canvas! Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 9:30 AM Stager, Catherine < Catherine.Stager@frontrange.edu> wrote: > Hi Lori, > > Perhaps you could clarify a bit? is it voice input or voice navigation > that is being sought? > > Much of how accessible the Canvas platform is depends on the > implementation by your university. I was able to input voice text when > working in Canvas a couple years ago, but did not attempt navigating. I > would have tried using mousegrid to do so. > > Best regards, > > Cath > > > > Catherine M. Stager > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Catherine.Stager@frontrange.edu > > > > (720) 336-1245 > > *[image: Front Range Community College - Boulder County Campus]* > > *Disability Support Services - Assistive Technology* > > *Check out our Getting Started Guides for At Home Support! > * > > *https://bit.ly/gettingstartedathome > * > > *Create Inclusive E-mail and Materials* > > *https://bit.ly/inclusive-checklist * > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Lane, Lori > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 5, 2022 10:15 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu>; ITACCESS@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* [Athen] Canvas and Dragon Naturally Speaking > > > > > > *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community > College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize > the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT > Help Desk if you have any questions. > > Happy New Year! > > > > Does anyone know about this issue with Dragon Naturally Speaking in > Canvas? I found that it is probably still not accessible based on using *Canvas > with speech recognition software* > . > The last comment was in 2020. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Lori > > > > ------- > Lori Lane, M.Ed. > > IT Accessibility Specialist > > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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As for equation editors in Word, Math Type is the safest bet, but if your ALT staff uses a Mac, then you need to use the Word editor (and JAWS does read out Word equations in an MathML fashion). Note that you need to most recent version of Duxbry to convert Word equations to Braille. The good news is that anything inputted into Canvas with the equation editor is converted to MathML for screen readers. Hope this helps. Elizabeth On Jan 5, 2022, at 3:00 PM, athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu wrote: Message: 1 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 23:38:08 +0000 From: "Romack, Justin" > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Math coursework for blind student Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Howdy y'all! Happy new year - and best wishes as you start a new semester! We have a blind student who has added a math class to their schedule this spring. I feel like we have some logistical hurdles to jump in the next two weeks: (1) The textbook (which I have as a PDF), (2) Lecture notes (which I also have a PDF), (3) Individual and groupwork assignments (which are still being developed), and (4) Assessments in Canvas. This student is not proficient with screen reading tech anyway, but has said Nemeth Braille is the only modality they've been able to use for math in the past. I'd be curious if you can share input on the following: 1. Best workflow for readying math content in a PDF to transcription in Braille. 2. Best methods for a student to complete their work in Nemeth Braille and have this transcribed to print. 3. Resources on audio-based scientific and graphing calculators, whether a physical unit or digital option. 4. Recommendations for Braille transcription vendors (sending off-list may work best). I am a little concerned about the turnaround time, especially considering the volume of material and the amount of content we will not have access to ahead of the semester, but hopeful y'all have some good resources and processes to consider. Grateful for the collective wisdom of this group! Best, J =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D. Accessibility IT Consultant IT Accessibility Office of the Deputy CIO accessibility@psu.edu (General accessibility questions) ejp10@psu.edu 25 Shields Building University Park, PA 16802 https://accessibility.psu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vwalton at columbiabasin.edu Thu Jan 6 07:20:59 2022 From: vwalton at columbiabasin.edu (Walton, Vicki) Date: Thu Jan 6 07:21:16 2022 Subject: [Athen] Canvas and Dragon Naturally Speaking In-Reply-To: References: <50497e6ed1c34b3b98674f517b4b8887@frontrange.edu> Message-ID: Thank you, Wink, for the information and the URL to the workbook. Did you notice the PDF workbook is not tagged? What a shame. Take care. [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology/Disability Support Services Program Support Supervisor II 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 Pronouns: they/them [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] [cid:image008.jpg@01D5E69C.17A2CE90] From: athen-list On Behalf Of foreigntype@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 12:00 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Canvas and Dragon Naturally Speaking CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu. Hi all, Nuance has been hard-pressed to keep up with all the cool, useful, necessary tools many of us depend on in voice recognition and voice navigation software. That said, the ease of use of voice navigation with DNS Individual Professional has fallen by the wayside and I've found an add-on tool/utility program which *helps* make many of the DNS tools function better or replaces those that have fallen out of development. The utility program is called VoxAid, downloadable online and seamlessly integrated into the DNS toolbar. There's a version of this software specifically for assistive technology, another for notetaking, and another for mind-mapping. Among other distinct advantages that this add-on offers, there is a more reliable mouse-grid function for voice navigation (an important tool as Cath pointed out!), as well as a great tool to create macros which can be customized for voice navigation, repetitive keystrokes, or repeated functions. Here's a link to check it out. I don't know if Michael (developer) offers demos other than what's available on the website. https://voxaid.co.uk/voxaid-at-edition-for-dsa-and-access-to-work/ Mostly what I've seen in my work with Dragon NS is a "failed" interaction for DNS to dictate directly into websites. Readers Digest explanation is website development & online software programs' HTML code. Doesn't matter, really. There are some workarounds that take some getting used to but which DO work: principally, using the DNS Dictation Box and taking the extra steps to set it to open automatically, then voice SELECT ALL and COPY THAT, CLICK TRANSFER and paste into the desired location (browser bar, text box, etc.). Learning to use the mouse grid for navigation and practice to become OK with the commands needed to move the mouse and select by voice is also important. There are some decent practice exercises for just this very task included in the last version of the DNS 15.0 Workbook. Here's a link for that, too: https://www.nuance.com/content/dam/nuance/en_us/collateral/dragon/guide/gd-dragon-professional-individual-and-dragon-legal-individual-workbook-en-us.pdf Hope this is helpful in general, even though it's not specific to Canvas! Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 9:30 AM Stager, Catherine > wrote: Hi Lori, Perhaps you could clarify a bit? is it voice input or voice navigation that is being sought? Much of how accessible the Canvas platform is depends on the implementation by your university. I was able to input voice text when working in Canvas a couple years ago, but did not attempt navigating. I would have tried using mousegrid to do so. Best regards, Cath Catherine M. Stager Assistive Technology Specialist Catherine.Stager@frontrange.edu (720) 336-1245 [Front Range Community College - Boulder County Campus] Disability Support Services - Assistive Technology Check out our Getting Started Guides for At Home Support! https://bit.ly/gettingstartedathome Create Inclusive E-mail and Materials https://bit.ly/inclusive-checklist From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Lane, Lori Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 10:15 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network >; ITACCESS@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [Athen] Canvas and Dragon Naturally Speaking CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Happy New Year! Does anyone know about this issue with Dragon Naturally Speaking in Canvas? 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I was able to input voice text when working in Canvas a couple years ago, but did not attempt navigating. I would have tried using mousegrid to do so. Best regards, Cath Catherine M. Stager Assistive Technology Specialist Catherine.Stager@frontrange.edu (720) 336-1245 [Front Range Community College - Boulder County Campus] Disability Support Services - Assistive Technology Check out our Getting Started Guides for At Home Support! https://bit.ly/gettingstartedathome Create Inclusive E-mail and Materials https://bit.ly/inclusive-checklist From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Lane, Lori Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 10:15 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network >; ITACCESS@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [Athen] Canvas and Dragon Naturally Speaking CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Happy New Year! Does anyone know about this issue with Dragon Naturally Speaking in Canvas? I found that it is probably still not accessible based on using Canvas with speech recognition software. The last comment was in 2020. Thank you, Lori ------- Lori Lane, M.Ed. IT Accessibility Specialist University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If the student is already trained and comfortable with Dragon, let's put some working folks' heads together on how to build in some "how to" steps for using DNS with Canvas (and other LMS systems). I'm happy to be part of the solution. In re Vicki's comment about the DNS workbook not being tagged, I did know this and provide the link anyway because the material is very useful for any number of users. When I use the workbook for training or conference presentations, I excerpt the exercises I want to use and adapt. I have run the workbook through alt-text conversion and use my own copy to work from. I think it is still highly unusual to find vendors who are voluntarily proactive on providing accessible (alt-text, tagged) documentation to the public. I would be (pleasantly) surprised to see this but am not counting on it. We could always ask Nuance as we could ask any publisher to provide a tagged PDF of their documents & printed materials. Wink Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 11:24 AM Lane, Lori wrote: > Thanks, Catherine, for the email. I imagine it is both input and > navigation in Canvas. > > > > Lori > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Stager, Catherine > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 05, 2022 11:30 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu>; ITACCESS@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Canvas and Dragon Naturally Speaking > > > > Hi Lori, > > Perhaps you could clarify a bit? is it voice input or voice navigation > that is being sought? > > Much of how accessible the Canvas platform is depends on the > implementation by your university. I was able to input voice text when > working in Canvas a couple years ago, but did not attempt navigating. I > would have tried using mousegrid to do so. > > Best regards, > > Cath > > > > Catherine M. Stager > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Catherine.Stager@frontrange.edu > > > > (720) 336-1245 > > *[image: Front Range Community College - Boulder County Campus]* > > *Disability Support Services - Assistive Technology* > > *Check out our Getting Started Guides for At Home Support! > * > > *https://bit.ly/gettingstartedathome > > * > > *Create Inclusive E-mail and Materials* > > *https://bit.ly/inclusive-checklist > > * > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Lane, Lori > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 5, 2022 10:15 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu>; ITACCESS@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* [Athen] Canvas and Dragon Naturally Speaking > > > > > > *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community > College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize > the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT > Help Desk if you have any questions. > > Happy New Year! > > > > Does anyone know about this issue with Dragon Naturally Speaking in > Canvas? I found that it is probably still not accessible based on using *Canvas > with speech recognition software* > . > The last comment was in 2020. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Lori > > > > ------- > Lori Lane, M.Ed. > > IT Accessibility Specialist > > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That said, the ease of use of voice navigation with DNS Individual Professional has fallen by the wayside and I've found an add-on tool/utility program which *helps* make many of the DNS tools function better or replaces those that have fallen out of development. The utility program is called VoxAid, downloadable online and seamlessly integrated into the DNS toolbar. There's a version of this software specifically for assistive technology, another for notetaking, and another for mind-mapping. Among other distinct advantages that this add-on offers, there is a more reliable mouse-grid function for voice navigation (an important tool as Cath pointed out!), as well as a great tool to create macros which can be customized for voice navigation, repetitive keystrokes, or repeated functions. Here's a link to check it out. I don't know if Michael (developer) offers demos other than what's available on the website. https://voxaid.co.uk/voxaid-at-edition-for-dsa-and-access-to-work/ Mostly what I've seen in my work with Dragon NS is a "failed" interaction for DNS to dictate directly into websites. Readers Digest explanation is website development & online software programs' HTML code. Doesn't matter, really. There are some workarounds that take some getting used to but which DO work: principally, using the DNS Dictation Box and taking the extra steps to set it to open automatically, then voice SELECT ALL and COPY THAT, CLICK TRANSFER and paste into the desired location (browser bar, text box, etc.). Learning to use the mouse grid for navigation and practice to become OK with the commands needed to move the mouse and select by voice is also important. There are some decent practice exercises for just this very task included in the last version of the DNS 15.0 Workbook. Here's a link for that, too: https://www.nuance.com/content/dam/nuance/en_us/collateral/dragon/guide/gd-dragon-professional-individual-and-dragon-legal-individual-workbook-en-us.pdf Hope this is helpful in general, even though it's not specific to Canvas! Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 9:30 AM Stager, Catherine > wrote: Hi Lori, Perhaps you could clarify a bit? is it voice input or voice navigation that is being sought? Much of how accessible the Canvas platform is depends on the implementation by your university. I was able to input voice text when working in Canvas a couple years ago, but did not attempt navigating. I would have tried using mousegrid to do so. Best regards, Cath Catherine M. 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And include checking out Goodfeel software from Dancing Dots which imports music ML files from Finale and Sibelius: https://www.dancingdots.com/main/goodfeel.htm This is a start, in any case. I?m sure there are others on the list who can refine these recommendations. Hope this is helpful in getting you started. Wink Harner On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 3:51 PM Priest, Ione wrote: > Good afternoon everyone, > > > > Has anyone had a JAWS user successfully use either Finale or Sibelius? > Alternatively, does anyone have recommendations for JAWS-friendly music > notation software? I realize this is a big ask, but it wouldn?t be a new > semester otherwise! > > > > *---* > > *Ione Priest* *(they/she)* | *Accessibility Technology Manager* > > CPACC, DHS Certified Trusted Tester > > Access Center > > Metropolitan State University of Denver > > Campus Box 56, P.O. 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Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Khoa Pham Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 11:33 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [EXT][Athen] Table header and list CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hi everyone, I have two questions I would like to ask the community. First question: Would having a table with the same header across majority of columns be an accessibility issue? Please see example table below. College Equivalent Courses Equivalent Courses Equivalent Courses Equivalent Courses SDSU BIO 100 BIO 300 Math 101 Math 250 UCSD BIO 101- BIO 102 BIO 200 Math 100 Math 150 Or should the table be created in this manner following a heading explaining what the table is? Please keep in mind this will be created in a word document. College Biology Math SDSU *BIO 100 *BIO 300 *Math 101 *Math 250 UCSD *BIO 101 - BIO 102 *BIO 200 *Math 100 *Math 150 Second question: Would using a list in a table cell cause any issue? Thank you in advance for your thoughts and inputs. Khoa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Fri Jan 14 06:56:26 2022 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Fri Jan 14 06:56:34 2022 Subject: [Athen] Table header and list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Robert would know, he is a screenreader user. Both of these tables seem fine, but I think there would eventually be some confusion with the first table, since table headers seem to all have the same name. Also, bulleted or numbered lists are no problem in a table. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Khoa Pham Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 10:33 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Table header and list Hi everyone, I have two questions I would like to ask the community. First question: Would having a table with the same header across majority of columns be an accessibility issue? Please see example table below. College Equivalent Courses Equivalent Courses Equivalent Courses Equivalent Courses SDSU BIO 100 BIO 300 Math 101 Math 250 UCSD BIO 101- BIO 102 BIO 200 Math 100 Math 150 Or should the table be created in this manner following a heading explaining what the table is? Please keep in mind this will be created in a word document. College Biology Math SDSU *BIO 100 *BIO 300 *Math 101 *Math 250 UCSD *BIO 101 - BIO 102 *BIO 200 *Math 100 *Math 150 Second question: Would using a list in a table cell cause any issue? Thank you in advance for your thoughts and inputs. Khoa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If > anyone would be willing to share their job description with me that would > be great. > > Thank you, > Serena Johnson > Director of Disability and Access Services > Central Piedmont Community College > Central High - 3rd floor > e: disability.counselingservices@cpcc.edu > t: 704-330-6621/fax: 704330-6230 > > Central Piedmont COVID-19 Updates > > Student Resources: Central Piedmont Cares > > Faculty and Staff Resources: EAP Program > > or Central Piedmont Cares > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Good morning, My institution is interested in hiring an Accessibility Coordinator. I've been asked to gather job descriptions for similar positions to review. If anyone would be willing to share their job description with me that would be great. Thank you, Serena Johnson Director of Disability and Access Services Central Piedmont Community College Central High - 3rd floor e: disability.counselingservices@cpcc.edu t: 704-330-6621/fax: 704330-6230 [Image removed by sender.] Central Piedmont COVID-19 Updates Student Resources: Central Piedmont Cares Faculty and Staff Resources: EAP Program or Central Piedmont Cares -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Equivalent Courses College Intro to Bio Upper Level Bio College Math Upper Level Math SDSU BIO 100 BIO 300 Math 101 Math 250 UCSD BIO 101- BIO 102 BIO 200 Math 100 Math 150 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 7:56 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Table header and list CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Robert would know, he is a screenreader user. Both of these tables seem fine, but I think there would eventually be some confusion with the first table, since table headers seem to all have the same name. Also, bulleted or numbered lists are no problem in a table. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Khoa Pham Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 10:33 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Table header and list Hi everyone, I have two questions I would like to ask the community. First question: Would having a table with the same header across majority of columns be an accessibility issue? Please see example table below. College Equivalent Courses Equivalent Courses Equivalent Courses Equivalent Courses SDSU BIO 100 BIO 300 Math 101 Math 250 UCSD BIO 101- BIO 102 BIO 200 Math 100 Math 150 Or should the table be created in this manner following a heading explaining what the table is? Please keep in mind this will be created in a word document. College Biology Math SDSU *BIO 100 *BIO 300 *Math 101 *Math 250 UCSD *BIO 101 - BIO 102 *BIO 200 *Math 100 *Math 150 Second question: Would using a list in a table cell cause any issue? Thank you in advance for your thoughts and inputs. Khoa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 8916 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From tlmarzewski at asub.edu Fri Jan 14 13:20:35 2022 From: tlmarzewski at asub.edu (Tisha L. Marzewski) Date: Fri Jan 14 13:20:47 2022 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility Summer Camp: Call for Proposals Message-ID: Accessibility Summer Camp, June 17, 2022: Call for Proposals Looking to present for a free and virtual accessibility conference? We would love for you to share your knowledge of accessibility at our 2022 Accessibility Summer Camp (ASC)! This conference will take place on Friday, June 17, 2022 in Central Daylight Time. You will also be able to participate in other sessions and network with like-minded professionals. What is Accessibility Summer Camp? The Accessibility Summer Camp is a FREE annual conference with the goal of connecting professionals and educators with best practices in accessibility. ASC's mission is to provide accessibility professional development that empowers attendees to create quality accessible learning environments and remove barriers for all individuals who have a desire to learn. This is our 5th Annual Accessibility Summer Camp! 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URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Fri Jan 14 14:38:10 2022 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Fri Jan 14 14:38:44 2022 Subject: [Athen] Job descriptions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Some additional job descriptions can also be found at the California Community Colleges Accessibility Center website: https://cccaccessibility.org/campus-plan/staffing You may also want to try a search on the Educause IT Accessibility Constituent Group list for past job postings - there have been more than a few this past year. Take care, Sean -------------------------------- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 18:27:38 +0000 From: "Stager, Catherine" To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Job descriptions Message-ID: <1b31f3be12ba417f8b155568841eac7e@frontrange.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" There are the samples on the ATHENpro.org website? https://athenpro.org/content/job-descriptions Web Accessibility Web Accessibility Specialist [PDF] Electronic & Information Technology University IT Accessibility Coordinator [PDF] Chief Information Officer - Accessibility [PDF] Assistive Computer Technology & Alternate Format Positions Assistive Computer Technology Specialist [PDF] Alternate Format Specialist [PDF] Alternate Format Specialist # 2 [PDF] From: athen-list On Behalf Of Serena Johnson Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 9:00 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Job descriptions CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Good morning, My institution is interested in hiring an Accessibility Coordinator. I've been asked to gather job descriptions for similar positions to review. If anyone would be willing to share their job description with me that would be great. Thank you, Serena Johnson Director of Disability and Access Services Central Piedmont Community College Central High - 3rd floor e: disability.counselingservices@cpcc.edu t: 704-330-6621/fax: 704330-6230 [Image removed by sender.] Central Piedmont COVID-19 Updates Student Resources: Central Piedmont Cares Faculty and Staff Resources: EAP Program or Central Piedmont Cares -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lydia at autistichoya.com Mon Jan 17 08:18:31 2022 From: lydia at autistichoya.com (Lydia X. Z. Brown) Date: Mon Jan 17 08:19:31 2022 Subject: [Athen] Thursday: #LiberatingWebinars - Disabled BIPOC Interventions in Teaching Message-ID: Please join the Autistic Women & Nonbinary Network for a discussion by Dr. Paul/Leena/Paulina Abustan, Saili Kulkarni, and Subini Annamma on disabled BIPOC interventions. *Disabled BIPOC Interventions in Teaching* Thursday 20 January 2022 at 12pm Eastern / 9am Pacific RSVP to this free event Academia has a foundation in ableist practices, and that is the reason why it?s so important that disabled BIPOC intervene in the academic world. While it is important that disabled BIPOC students are on the front lines, we also need disabled BIPOC teachers who can help lead the way in fighting academic ableism. Join us in this discussion with Dr. Paul/Leena/Paulina, Saili, and Subini as we learn about what it means to intervene in teaching as disabled BIPOC. We will provide ASL interpretation and CART captioning for this event, which participants will be able to join by video or phone. Speakers - Dr. Paul/Leena/Paulina Abustan (any pronoun, gender fluid) centers the alternative worldmaking of queer critical race feminist disability justice activists found within youth learning, youth popular culture animated storytelling, and Pilipinx and BIPOC coalitional activist spaces. Dr. Abustan is a 9th year higher education instructor and is a Visiting Assistant Professor of Western Washington University?s Women?s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies and part time faculty of University of Washington?s Educational Studies and Disability Studies and Highline College?s Ethnic and Gender Studies. - Saili S. Kulkarni, Ph.D.'s research highlights the intersections of disability and race in teacher education. She uses DisCrit (Disability Studies Critical Race Theory) to understand how teachers, particularly special education teachers of color, enact resistance in schools. Dr. Kulkarni also examines restorative and humanizing practices for young children of color with disabilities. - Subini Annamma was a special education teacher in both public schools and youth prisons prior to her doctoral studies. Currently, she is an Associate Professor in the Graduate School of Education at Stanford University. Her research critically examines the ways students are criminalized and resist that criminalization through the mutually constitutive nature of racism and ableism, how they interlock with other marginalizing oppressions, and how these intersections impact youth education trajectories in urban schools and youth prisons. Further, she positions students as knowledge generators, exploring how their narratives can inform teacher and special education. Dr. Annamma?s book, The Pedagogy of Pathologization (Routledge, 2018) focuses on the education trajectories of incarcerated disabled girls of color and has won the 2019 AESA Critic?s Choice Book Award & 2018 NWSA Alison Piepmeier Book Prize. Dr. Annamma is a past Ford Postdoctoral Fellow, AERA Division G Early Career Awardee, Critical Race Studies in Education Associate Emerging Scholar recipient, Western Social Science Association's Outstanding Emerging Scholar, and AERA Minority Dissertation Awardee. Dr. Annamma?s work has been published in scholarly journals such as Educational Researcher, Teachers College Record, Review of Research in Education, Teaching and Teacher Education, Theory Into Practice, Race Ethnicity and Education, Qualitative Inquiry, among others. Moderator: Lydia X. Z. Brown, AWN Director of Policy, Advocacy, & External Affairs Please note that after registering on EventBrite, you will also receive instructions for receiving a Zoom link. 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URL: From dcwatson at uvic.ca Mon Jan 17 12:16:24 2022 From: dcwatson at uvic.ca (Charlie Watson) Date: Mon Jan 17 12:18:53 2022 Subject: [Athen] Accessible alternative to PopG genetics tool Message-ID: <887836f892504ba2beb123e32fc1837f@uaru.uvic.ca> Hello all, PopG is a small Java program which runs simple genetic evolution simulations with a few parameters. One of our biology instructors uses it, but it is almost entirely inaccessible to screen readers. The source is available, but I don't know enough Java to fix the issue. PopG link: https://evolution.gs.washington.edu/popgen/popg.html Does anyone know of a roughly equivalent tool that is accessible to a screen reader? A pre-made Jupyter notebook might be simple enough, but ideally it would be just as point-and-click as PopG. 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Thanks, Allison Swanson AT-IT Coordinator & Accessibility Facilitator [CBS8mbI0AM8N0XtHecA+I5472edEflZ8LcRRyQi8d+OSOKIRCQegUjiiEQkHoFI4ohEJCKEyP8D+cillr8apMoAAAAASUVORK5CYII=] 308 Occupational Therapy Building 970-491-0625 allison.r.swanson@colostate.edu Assistive Technology Resource Center Accessibility By Design -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 12262 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Tue Jan 18 09:55:32 2022 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Tue Jan 18 09:55:39 2022 Subject: [Athen] Question about headings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My screenreading students appreciate the headings. They are okay with three levels - H1, H2, H3, but if we need deeper we should do it. Here's the thing about headings, though...they help make a consistent output and a visually pleasing document, and a document that will work well for sighted AND non-sighted users. They are also easier than adding bolding, centering, color, and sizing individually to different parts of the text. I have trouble understanding why anyone would fight an efficient process with a beautiful outcome. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Swanson,Allison Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 10:51 AM To: 'ATHENS ' Subject: [Athen] Question about headings Hello All, We're having some debate on our campus about whether it's ok to skip heading levels or not. I've always understood that it was best not to, but WCAG doesn't explicitly state this. What is the consensus from actual screen reader users? Thanks, Allison Swanson AT-IT Coordinator & Accessibility Facilitator [CBS8mbI0AM8N0XtHecA+I5472edEflZ8LcRRyQi8d+OSOKIRCQegUjiiEQkHoFI4ohEJCKEyP8D+cillr8apMoAAAAASUVORK5CYII=] 308 Occupational Therapy Building 970-491-0625 allison.r.swanson@colostate.edu Assistive Technology Resource Center Accessibility By Design -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've always understood that it was best not to, but WCAG doesn't explicitly state this. What is the consensus from actual screen reader users? Thanks, Allison Swanson AT-IT Coordinator & Accessibility Facilitator 308 Occupational Therapy Building 970-491-0625 allison.r.swanson@colostate.edu Assistive Technology Resource Center Accessibility By Design -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 12262 bytes Desc: not available URL: From info at karlencommunications.com Tue Jan 18 10:23:40 2022 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Tue Jan 18 10:23:51 2022 Subject: [Athen] Question about headings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002a01d80c98$84b84220$8e28c660$@karlencommunications.com> Keep in mind that PDF supports only 6 levels of headings, H1 through 6. If the content has h7, H8 or more, it will need to be mapped to H6 in a program like Acrobat. Otherwise it might show up as just a plain P tag. They'll work in Word, just need to be remediated in PDF. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 12:56 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Question about headings My screenreading students appreciate the headings. They are okay with three levels - H1, H2, H3, but if we need deeper we should do it. Here's the thing about headings, though.they help make a consistent output and a visually pleasing document, and a document that will work well for sighted AND non-sighted users. They are also easier than adding bolding, centering, color, and sizing individually to different parts of the text. I have trouble understanding why anyone would fight an efficient process with a beautiful outcome. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Swanson,Allison Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 10:51 AM To: 'ATHENS ' > Subject: [Athen] Question about headings Hello All, We're having some debate on our campus about whether it's ok to skip heading levels or not. I've always understood that it was best not to, but WCAG doesn't explicitly state this. What is the consensus from actual screen reader users? Thanks, Allison Swanson AT-IT Coordinator & Accessibility Facilitator 308 Occupational Therapy Building 970-491-0625 allison.r.swanson@colostate.edu Assistive Technology Resource Center Accessibility By Design -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 8916 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 7722 bytes Desc: not available URL: From glen.walker at gmail.com Tue Jan 18 10:25:10 2022 From: glen.walker at gmail.com (glen walker) Date: Tue Jan 18 10:25:48 2022 Subject: [Athen] Question about headings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The question was more about skipping heading levels as opposed to the usefulness of headings. Yes, you can skip levels if it makes logical sense. If you have a main h1 and then a few sub h2's, then if any of those h2's need a sub-sub-heading, then don't skip and use an h4. It's not a technical WCAG failure but an h3 would make sense at that point. However, if you have h1 and h2's and some pages have an h3 and then you have h4's in your footer, then if you have a page with only an h1 and an h2, then it's ok to have h4's in the footer without having any h3's on the page. On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:56 AM Susan Kelmer wrote: > My screenreading students appreciate the headings. They are okay with > three levels ? H1, H2, H3, but if we need deeper we should do it. > > > > Here?s the thing about headings, though?they help make a consistent output > and a *visually* pleasing document, and a document that will work well > for sighted AND non-sighted users. They are also easier than adding > bolding, centering, color, and sizing individually to different parts of > the text. > > > > I have trouble understanding why anyone would fight an efficient process > with a beautiful outcome. > > > > > > *Susan Kelmer * > > Alternate Format Production Program Manager > > Disability Services > > Division of Student Affairs > > *T* 303 735 4836 > > *www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices > * > > > > > > [image: cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] > > > > *Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this > message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please > notify the sender immediately and delete this message. * > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Swanson,Allison > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 10:51 AM > *To:* 'ATHENS ' > *Subject:* [Athen] Question about headings > > > > Hello All, > > > > We?re having some debate on our campus about whether it?s ok to skip > heading levels or not. I?ve always understood that it was best not to, but > WCAG doesn?t explicitly state this. What is the consensus from actual > screen reader users? > > > > Thanks, > > > > *Allison Swanson * > > *AT-IT Coordinator & Accessibility Facilitator * > > [image: > CBS8mbI0AM8N0XtHecA+I5472edEflZ8LcRRyQi8d+OSOKIRCQegUjiiEQkHoFI4ohEJCKEyP8D+cillr8apMoAAAAASUVORK5CYII=] > > 308 Occupational Therapy Building > > 970-491-0625 > > allison.r.swanson@colostate.edu > > > > Assistive Technology Resource Center > > > > Accessibility By Design > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Screen reader users find heading level designations useful because we can use the quick navigation key H to move forward and shift+H to move backwards through a document. The logical organization of these headings is important to us, too, because we can generate a list of headings in the document with our screen reader and move quickly to a specific section. The main takeaway here is that the order of the headings is more important; if you skip one of the levels, such as going from heading level 2 to heading level 4, this does not impact screen reader navigation. Hope this helps! Robert On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:54 PM Swanson,Allison < Allison.R.Swanson@colostate.edu> wrote: > Hello All, > > > > We?re having some debate on our campus about whether it?s ok to skip > heading levels or not. I?ve always understood that it was best not to, but > WCAG doesn?t explicitly state this. What is the consensus from actual > screen reader users? > > > > Thanks, > > > > *Allison Swanson * > > *AT-IT Coordinator & Accessibility Facilitator * > > [image: > CBS8mbI0AM8N0XtHecA+I5472edEflZ8LcRRyQi8d+OSOKIRCQegUjiiEQkHoFI4ohEJCKEyP8D+cillr8apMoAAAAASUVORK5CYII=] > > 308 Occupational Therapy Building > > 970-491-0625 > > allison.r.swanson@colostate.edu > > > > Assistive Technology Resource Center > > > > Accessibility By Design > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist, Office of Learning Resources (OLR) University of Dayton Ryan C. 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Instead of using CSS or in Word, styles, just pick a heading level you like and use it for the entire document. Equally frustrating. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list On Behalf Of glen walker Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:25 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Question about headings The question was more about skipping heading levels as opposed to the usefulness of headings. Yes, you can skip levels if it makes logical sense. If you have a main h1 and then a few sub h2's, then if any of those h2's need a sub-sub-heading, then don't skip and use an h4. It's not a technical WCAG failure but an h3 would make sense at that point. However, if you have h1 and h2's and some pages have an h3 and then you have h4's in your footer, then if you have a page with only an h1 and an h2, then it's ok to have h4's in the footer without having any h3's on the page. On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:56 AM Susan Kelmer > wrote: My screenreading students appreciate the headings. They are okay with three levels - H1, H2, H3, but if we need deeper we should do it. Here's the thing about headings, though...they help make a consistent output and a visually pleasing document, and a document that will work well for sighted AND non-sighted users. They are also easier than adding bolding, centering, color, and sizing individually to different parts of the text. I have trouble understanding why anyone would fight an efficient process with a beautiful outcome. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D80C6F.EAE02190] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Swanson,Allison Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 10:51 AM To: 'ATHENS ' > Subject: [Athen] Question about headings Hello All, We're having some debate on our campus about whether it's ok to skip heading levels or not. I've always understood that it was best not to, but WCAG doesn't explicitly state this. What is the consensus from actual screen reader users? Thanks, Allison Swanson AT-IT Coordinator & Accessibility Facilitator [CBS8mbI0AM8N0XtHecA+I5472edEflZ8LcRRyQi8d+OSOKIRCQegUjiiEQkHoFI4ohEJCKEyP8D+cillr8apMoAAAAASUVORK5CYII=] 308 Occupational Therapy Building 970-491-0625 allison.r.swanson@colostate.edu Assistive Technology Resource Center Accessibility By Design _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers Lisa On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 2:37 PM Karen McCall wrote: > I believe it is currently a PDF/UA ? 1 failure. > > > > I find myself searching for missing heading levels when heading levels are > skipped. This wastes time. Did my screen reader miss something, did it > crash, do I still have focus?where did the missing sections go? > > > > But then I tend to write using sequential headings. > > > > It frustrates me, checkpoint or not, when headings are skipped. It is like > having a web document where the author liked the look of Heading 6 so made > everything a heading 6. There is no way to navigate any meaningful > structure. There is no content with subheadings or topics under them. I see > this a lot on web pages too. Instead of using CSS or in Word, styles, just > pick a heading level you like and use it for the entire document. Equally > frustrating. > > > > Cheers, Karen > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've always understood that it was best not to, but WCAG doesn't explicitly state this. What is the consensus from actual screen reader users? Thanks, Allison Swanson AT-IT Coordinator & Accessibility Facilitator [CBS8mbI0AM8N0XtHecA+I5472edEflZ8LcRRyQi8d+OSOKIRCQegUjiiEQkHoFI4ohEJCKEyP8D+cillr8apMoAAAAASUVORK5CYII=] 308 Occupational Therapy Building 970-491-0625 allison.r.swanson@colostate.edu Assistive Technology Resource Center Accessibility By Design -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 12262 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From glen.walker at gmail.com Tue Jan 18 11:19:38 2022 From: glen.walker at gmail.com (glen walker) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:19:59 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] Question about headings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lisa and Karen. Then how do you address the situation I described? There's no way to *not* skip a heading level in my situation unless you rewrite the footer for each page but then you have inconsistent headings in the footer. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Allison.R.Swanson at colostate.edu Tue Jan 18 11:28:23 2022 From: Allison.R.Swanson at colostate.edu (Swanson,Allison) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:28:36 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] Question about headings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you all for your input. I was sure that was what I had heard and understood throughout the years. I just wanted to make sure I'm not teaching the wrong thing! The web developer I'm debating with is citing some discussions where it was determined that there are cases where sequential headings would actually not make sense: TPGi: When do headings fail WCAG? An example the developer gave me was an organization chart where headings are used to depict organization hierarchy: h1 = President, h2 = VP, h3 = AVP, h4 = Executive Director, h5 = Director. "In that structural hierarchy, there may be divisions/departments that don't have an AVP, or Executive Director, or potentially other levels. In those cases, it would not make sense visually, or structurally to elevate people from lower levels to conform to a specific document structure." I can see where this is a case where skipping heading levels would actually make sense. Does anyone have thoughts on that? I think for most ordinary web content, however, it's still going to be best practice to keep headings sequential. Thanks, Allison Swanson [Assistive Technology Resource Center Colorado State University] From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:45 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] Question about headings ** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ** Keep a logical flow in order to keep from confusing the end user. Headings should follow the same flow as an outline. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Swanson,Allison Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:51 AM To: 'ATHENS ' > Subject: [EXT][Athen] Question about headings CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hello All, We're having some debate on our campus about whether it's ok to skip heading levels or not. I've always understood that it was best not to, but WCAG doesn't explicitly state this. What is the consensus from actual screen reader users? Thanks, Allison Swanson AT-IT Coordinator & Accessibility Facilitator [CBS8mbI0AM8N0XtHecA+I5472edEflZ8LcRRyQi8d+OSOKIRCQegUjiiEQkHoFI4ohEJCKEyP8D+cillr8apMoAAAAASUVORK5CYII=] 308 Occupational Therapy Building 970-491-0625 allison.r.swanson@colostate.edu Assistive Technology Resource Center Accessibility By Design -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 13674 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 7704 bytes Desc: image003.png URL: From kndeibel at metageekery.org Tue Jan 18 11:54:26 2022 From: kndeibel at metageekery.org (Katherine Deibel) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:54:54 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] Question about headings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, a few things here. First, keep in mind that WCAG was explicitly designed for web pages. Due to technical legacy of Tim Berners-Lee not including a visible title tag in the , people co-opted the H1 heading to be titles. That led to the nonsense that is currently the only one H1 per web page and the loss of heading semantics in HTML. Although document accessibility is connected to WCAG, I do find that it doesn't necessarily fully map. We should be making the rational choices on what is best for our clients moreso than strict conformance to WCAG. With that in mind, conformance to WCAG regarding headings is pretty loose. That TPGi article is pretty infamous. Having worked in academic accessibility, my patrons generally wanted sensible, proper headings, especially if they came academic articles with standard layouts. Moreover, the claim that users expect a single H1 has nothing to do with semantics but just decades of bad practice. As for the organization chart instance, I'm not certain that I would use headings for that markup. I'd have to see an example of it that would be deemed usable to question it. But just a few other things: * First, any of you who said you can have more than one H1 in a PDF since it is not a web page are people who I love! I've been fighting hard lately that headings should be used with current semantics. Titles are not headings, not even if it is a chapter title. Over-generalizing the semantics breaks down super fast. Moreover, if the issue is that most assistive technologies don't report the Title markup in Word or PDFs, the problem is with the AT. Fix them instead of kludging the semantics. * Regarding headings in footers, I lost the context of that, but if it is a webpage, I recommend always having a H2 that marks up the page footer even if it said H2 is screen reader only in the CSS. While it is true that screen reader users can navigate by landmarks, not all users do. If you were not referring to a web page but a document, I'm a little confused about how headings could occur in a footer but I'd be happy to take a look. Katherine "Kate" Deibel, PhD Library Accessibility Specialist Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky From: athen-list On Behalf Of Swanson,Allison Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:28 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] Question about headings Thank you all for your input. I was sure that was what I had heard and understood throughout the years. I just wanted to make sure I'm not teaching the wrong thing! The web developer I'm debating with is citing some discussions where it was determined that there are cases where sequential headings would actually not make sense: TPGi: When do headings fail WCAG? An example the developer gave me was an organization chart where headings are used to depict organization hierarchy: h1 = President, h2 = VP, h3 = AVP, h4 = Executive Director, h5 = Director. "In that structural hierarchy, there may be divisions/departments that don't have an AVP, or Executive Director, or potentially other levels. In those cases, it would not make sense visually, or structurally to elevate people from lower levels to conform to a specific document structure." I can see where this is a case where skipping heading levels would actually make sense. Does anyone have thoughts on that? I think for most ordinary web content, however, it's still going to be best practice to keep headings sequential. Thanks, Allison Swanson [Assistive Technology Resource Center Colorado State University] From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:45 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] Question about headings ** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ** Keep a logical flow in order to keep from confusing the end user. Headings should follow the same flow as an outline. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Swanson,Allison Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:51 AM To: 'ATHENS ' > Subject: [EXT][Athen] Question about headings CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hello All, We're having some debate on our campus about whether it's ok to skip heading levels or not. I've always understood that it was best not to, but WCAG doesn't explicitly state this. What is the consensus from actual screen reader users? Thanks, Allison Swanson AT-IT Coordinator & Accessibility Facilitator [CBS8mbI0AM8N0XtHecA+I5472edEflZ8LcRRyQi8d+OSOKIRCQegUjiiEQkHoFI4ohEJCKEyP8D+cillr8apMoAAAAASUVORK5CYII=] 308 Occupational Therapy Building 970-491-0625 allison.r.swanson@colostate.edu Assistive Technology Resource Center Accessibility By Design -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 13674 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 7704 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From info at karlencommunications.com Tue Jan 18 12:21:59 2022 From: info at karlencommunications.com (Karlen Communications) Date: Tue Jan 18 12:38:10 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] Question about headings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000c01d80ca9$0c634bb0$2529e310$@karlencommunications.com> Whew, I was a bit confused as well. Headings don't belong in headers, footers or tables. I've been advocating for a "TableNav" structure so that table navigational headings could be implemented in a way that a list of headings would only show the document headings but another keyboard command would only show a list of TableNav "headings" in tables. I'd defer to Bevi Chagnon on headings in footnotes or endnotes as she has some great examples of how footnotes or endnotes can span multiple pages. We may need a "ReferenceNav heading" for those instances. We can then keep the different types of navigational points separate so that we know where we are in the content.main body, table or footnote/endnote. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list On Behalf Of Katherine Deibel Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:54 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] Question about headings Well, a few things here. First, keep in mind that WCAG was explicitly designed for web pages. Due to technical legacy of Tim Berners-Lee not including a visible title tag in the , people co-opted the H1 heading to be titles. That led to the nonsense that is currently the only one H1 per web page and the loss of heading semantics in HTML. Although document accessibility is connected to WCAG, I do find that it doesn't necessarily fully map. We should be making the rational choices on what is best for our clients moreso than strict conformance to WCAG. With that in mind, conformance to WCAG regarding headings is pretty loose. That TPGi article is pretty infamous. Having worked in academic accessibility, my patrons generally wanted sensible, proper headings, especially if they came academic articles with standard layouts. Moreover, the claim that users expect a single H1 has nothing to do with semantics but just decades of bad practice. As for the organization chart instance, I'm not certain that I would use headings for that markup. I'd have to see an example of it that would be deemed usable to question it. But just a few other things: * First, any of you who said you can have more than one H1 in a PDF since it is not a web page are people who I love! I've been fighting hard lately that headings should be used with current semantics. Titles are not headings, not even if it is a chapter title. Over-generalizing the semantics breaks down super fast. Moreover, if the issue is that most assistive technologies don't report the Title markup in Word or PDFs, the problem is with the AT. Fix them instead of kludging the semantics. * Regarding headings in footers, I lost the context of that, but if it is a webpage, I recommend always having a H2 that marks up the page footer even if it said H2 is screen reader only in the CSS. While it is true that screen reader users can navigate by landmarks, not all users do. If you were not referring to a web page but a document, I'm a little confused about how headings could occur in a footer but I'd be happy to take a look. Katherine "Kate" Deibel, PhD Library Accessibility Specialist Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Swanson,Allison Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:28 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] Question about headings Thank you all for your input. I was sure that was what I had heard and understood throughout the years. I just wanted to make sure I'm not teaching the wrong thing! The web developer I'm debating with is citing some discussions where it was determined that there are cases where sequential headings would actually not make sense: TPGi: When do headings fail WCAG? An example the developer gave me was an organization chart where headings are used to depict organization hierarchy: h1 = President, h2 = VP, h3 = AVP, h4 = Executive Director, h5 = Director. "In that structural hierarchy, there may be divisions/departments that don't have an AVP, or Executive Director, or potentially other levels. In those cases, it would not make sense visually, or structurally to elevate people from lower levels to conform to a specific document structure." I can see where this is a case where skipping heading levels would actually make sense. Does anyone have thoughts on that? I think for most ordinary web content, however, it's still going to be best practice to keep headings sequential. Thanks, Allison Swanson From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:45 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] Question about headings ** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ** Keep a logical flow in order to keep from confusing the end user. Headings should follow the same flow as an outline. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Swanson,Allison Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:51 AM To: 'ATHENS ' > Subject: [EXT][Athen] Question about headings CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hello All, We're having some debate on our campus about whether it's ok to skip heading levels or not. I've always understood that it was best not to, but WCAG doesn't explicitly state this. What is the consensus from actual screen reader users? Thanks, Allison Swanson AT-IT Coordinator & Accessibility Facilitator 308 Occupational Therapy Building 970-491-0625 allison.r.swanson@colostate.edu Assistive Technology Resource Center Accessibility By Design -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 13674 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 7704 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lissner.2 at osu.edu Tue Jan 18 06:18:59 2022 From: lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, L. Scott) Date: Tue Jan 18 12:43:34 2022 Subject: [Athen] The Ethel Louise Armstrong Student Poster Competitions at the 2022 Multiple Perspectives Conference Deadline March 15, 2022 Message-ID: <85180244-A15C-4F81-8FA5-B266D5594847@osu.edu> Now that your semester has gotten underway, please share the announcement for the student poster competition There is a week left to submit a concurrent session proposal for the 2022 Multiple Perspectives On Access, Inclusion & Disability Conference which will be virtual again this year. THE ZEN OF VENN: DISABILTY, A FACET OF LIVED EXPERIENCE [A multicolored graphic giving the impression of a flower that depicts the multiple overlapping identities of individuals. Long Description: 10 small circles, each a different color, surround a larger circle comprised of the colors of the surrounding circles as overlapping translucent disks forming blended hues in the shape of petals. The labels for the10 small circles are DISABILTY, RACE, GENDER, EHNICITY, SEX & SEXUALITY, RELIGION, REGION, CLASS & CASTE, INCOME & WEALTH, AND "MANY OTHER IDENTITIES"] The Twenty Second Annual Multiple Perspective Conference April 11th & 12th 2022 Fully Virtual Concurrent Session Proposals. Full Review of C: January 23, 2022 Ed Roberts Birthday The Ethel Louise Armstrong Student Poster Competitions Deadline March 15, 2022 Held on April 11, 2021 during the Multiple Perspectives conference at The Ohio State University?s Columbus Campus (We hope for an in-person event; based on circumstance virtual participation will be arranged.) The Multiple Perspectives conference encourages students to network with professionals, the community, and scholars who share their interests in disability at its annual student poster reception. A generous gift from the Ethel Louise Armstrong Foundation funds the awards * Graduate Research - $500 * Undergraduate Research - $250 * Art & Performance - $250 * Undergraduate Class Project - $250 Submissions may focus on any aspect of disability and may be based on: * Independent & Supervised Student Research * Art & Performance * Class Projects & Papers (Award goes to department to support future projects) * Community Service & Applied Problem Solving from Service Learning Classes or student organizations (Award goes to organization/department to support future projects) Posters can take a variety of forms including print material mounted on poster board or display panels or arranged on a table; PowerPoint presentations, web pages or video presentations from your laptop? * In person presentation materials must fit on a 3?x6? table or on 6? or less of wall space * Posters, including narrative, should present the information in 10 minutes or less * In person presentations must provide any needed presentation technology * Presenters must be available during the poster session (between 3:30pm and 6pm eastern time) * Poster materials should be accessible * Resources for Accessible Posters * https://access-ed.r2d2.uwm.edu/Virtual_Campus/Posters_Exhibits/ * https://annualmeeting.americananthro.org/accessibility/poster-guidelines/#access * https://astrobites.org/2021/12/24/accessible-presentations/ * https://www.aucd.org/docs/annual_mtg_2008/accessibility_posters_gilson2007.pdf Submission Instructions Students and teams of students who wish to present a poster must complete the online proposal form By March 15, 2021. 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For HTML, headings in the footer is absolutely a fantastic thing to have. On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 1:25 PM Karlen Communications < info@karlencommunications.com> wrote: > Headings don?t belong in footers > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chagnon at pubcom.com Tue Jan 18 12:56:48 2022 From: chagnon at pubcom.com (chagnon@pubcom.com) Date: Tue Jan 18 12:56:58 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] Question about headings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009301d80cad$e907fd00$bb17f700$@pubcom.com> For an organization chart, we've found hierarchical nested lists work well for most. Although it gets cumbersome when the levels are too deep or complicated. Using headings is workable, except as noted previously.when certain positions or levels are missing in some branches of the org chart. In that type of chart, I don't know of any method that would work satisfactorily. PDF/UA-1 loosely requires the document to maintain heading levels and not skip, but that might change in the forthcoming PDF/UA-2 standard. - - - Bevi Chagnon | Designer, Accessibility Technician | Chagnon@PubCom.com - - - PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting . training . development . design . sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/classes - - - Latest blog-newsletter - Simple Guide to Writing Alt-Text From: athen-list On Behalf Of Swanson,Allison Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:28 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] Question about headings Thank you all for your input. I was sure that was what I had heard and understood throughout the years. I just wanted to make sure I'm not teaching the wrong thing! The web developer I'm debating with is citing some discussions where it was determined that there are cases where sequential headings would actually not make sense: TPGi: When do headings fail WCAG? An example the developer gave me was an organization chart where headings are used to depict organization hierarchy: h1 = President, h2 = VP, h3 = AVP, h4 = Executive Director, h5 = Director. "In that structural hierarchy, there may be divisions/departments that don't have an AVP, or Executive Director, or potentially other levels. In those cases, it would not make sense visually, or structurally to elevate people from lower levels to conform to a specific document structure." I can see where this is a case where skipping heading levels would actually make sense. Does anyone have thoughts on that? I think for most ordinary web content, however, it's still going to be best practice to keep headings sequential. Thanks, Allison Swanson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 1:25 PM Karlen Communications > wrote: Headings don?t belong in footers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athenpresident at gmail.com Wed Jan 19 10:53:03 2022 From: athenpresident at gmail.com (ATHEN President) Date: Wed Jan 19 10:53:33 2022 Subject: [Athen] Terri Hedgpeth Message-ID: Good afternoon, It is with regret that I inform the ATHEN community of the passing of Dr. Terri Hedgpeth. Terri had a notable impact on the assistive technology/accessibility community. She was known to many for her commitment to increase accessibility in and outside the field of higher education. She was also incredibly dedicated to improving the university experience for students with disabilities. She will be greatly missed. Included below, with permission from her family, is her obituary. Terri Hedgpeth Obituary: Terri Marie Hedgpeth, born September 3, 1958 in Houston Texas to Homer and Betty Wright. Terri graduated from Arizona State University (ASU) with a BA in Psychology, Masters in Social Work and Doctorate of Education. She devoted most of her 25 year career working at ASU to advancing and advocating for students and persons with disabilities. She sits on the Arizona Governor?s Council on Blindness and Visual Impairment. Terri is survived by her husband, Bruce; son, Daniel; daughter-in-law, Leah; Granddaughters, Alyssa and Olivia; sisters, Wanda and Barbara. Mrs Hedgpeth contributions and commitment to family and her community are greatly appreciated and will be missed. Rest in Peace. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justinr at disability.tamu.edu Wed Jan 19 19:54:56 2022 From: justinr at disability.tamu.edu (Romack, Justin) Date: Wed Jan 19 21:05:44 2022 Subject: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? Message-ID: Howdy colleagues! I owe gratitude to a number of you who pointed me toward resources on piecing together a scalable workflow for LaTeX to MathML/Braille math. Beyond grateful! I have our team looking at the text and I'm seeing goofy results with the output of MathType and the resulting import in Duxbury for Braille translation. Would someone with MathType and/or Duxbury experience give this a glance and let me know if you see anything noticeably wrong with this sample page of content? It's odd because the equations are entered with MathType, but NVDA and JAWS won't seem to interact with them as math content in Word. Any advice or insight welcomed! Thanks, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. 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The notion of a limit from calculus is something that engineering majors and pure math majors alike encounter repeatedly throughout their undergraduate studies. In this talk, Zach will look at STEM accessibility issues through the lens of various definitions of a limit and share some personal stories along the way. *Don't worry, familiarity with math or calculus is not required.* ATHEN Executive Council -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Thu Jan 20 09:36:34 2022 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Thu Jan 20 09:37:34 2022 Subject: [Athen] TTS apps - your recommendations? Message-ID: Hello all! I hope you had a wonderful winter break and are well. I'm curious as to what apps you suggest for students who want to use TTS on their mobile devices - typically a phone. Ran across an interesting article on the topic, Best Test-to-Speech Apps - Listen to Text . Your thoughts would greatly be appreciated! Warm regards, Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT *she, her, hers* Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kndeibel at metageekery.org Thu Jan 20 09:48:08 2022 From: kndeibel at metageekery.org (Katherine Deibel) Date: Thu Jan 20 09:48:19 2022 Subject: [Athen] TTS apps - your recommendations? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For iOS, Voice Dream Reader is great. Android?s version, the Legere Reader, is good as well. Neither is free but they are relatively low cost. Both tend to work better with epubs than PDFs. Katherine ?Kate? Deibel, PhD Library Accessibility Specialist Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky From: athen-list On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 12:37 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] TTS apps - your recommendations? Hello all! I hope you had a wonderful winter break and are well. I'm curious as to what apps you suggest for students who want to use TTS on their mobile devices - typically a phone. Ran across an interesting article on the topic, Best Test-to-Speech Apps - Listen to Text. Your thoughts would greatly be appreciated! Warm regards, Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT she, her, hers Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm curious as to what apps you suggest for students who want to use TTS on their mobile devices - typically a phone. Ran across an interesting article on the topic, Best Test-to-Speech Apps - Listen to Text. Your thoughts would greatly be appreciated! Warm regards, Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT she, her, hers Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 8916 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From alexis_delevett at cuesta.edu Thu Jan 20 09:56:21 2022 From: alexis_delevett at cuesta.edu (Alexis Delevett) Date: Thu Jan 20 09:56:46 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: TTS apps - your recommendations? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you do have access to ePubs I can recommend Dolphin EasyReader, it's free and available for iOS & Android ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Katherine Deibel Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 9:48 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Athen] TTS apps - your recommendations? For iOS, Voice Dream Reader is great. Android?s version, the Legere Reader, is good as well. Neither is free but they are relatively low cost. Both tend to work better with epubs than PDFs. Katherine ?Kate? Deibel, PhD Library Accessibility Specialist Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky From: athen-list On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 12:37 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] TTS apps - your recommendations? Hello all! I hope you had a wonderful winter break and are well. I'm curious as to what apps you suggest for students who want to use TTS on their mobile devices - typically a phone. Ran across an interesting article on the topic, Best Test-to-Speech Apps - Listen to Text. Your thoughts would greatly be appreciated! Warm regards, Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT she, her, hers Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu Thu Jan 20 10:43:03 2022 From: Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu (Stager, Catherine) Date: Thu Jan 20 10:55:46 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: TTS apps - your recommendations? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3890cd8726dc4850b7b9629c2f6a31f3@frontrange.edu> Depending upon what they are reading, we often recommend Voice Dream and iBooks on iOS. On Android, it is quite variable depending upon what the student needs - Legere Reader and Moon Reader Plus are good options. Students are frequently using extensions too rather than apps (see bit.ly/extensionsahg for the AHG presentation I shared). ReaderMode.io, Immersive Reader (for Chrome and FF), Nat Reader, Pericles, Read Aloud, HelperBird... For quick OCR and TTS, Google Lens has been improving vastly. Feel free to explore our Getting Started Guides - short guides we produced for students on supportive technology bit.ly/usingyourtech. These are free and open for educational use - if you'd like to customize for your students, we'd appreciate a footnote. We also did a series on IDK word for which we did an overview at AHG (bit.ly/idk-wordAHG ) ... I didn't Know Microsoft Word could do that... bit.ly/idk-word and an overview video (12 minutes) of these with a faculty focus... bit.ly/IDK-word-faculty. Best regards, Cath Catherine M. Stager Assistive Technology Specialist Catherine.Stager@frontrange.edu (720) 336-1245 Disability Support Services - Assistive Technology Check out our Getting Started Guides for At Home Support! https://bit.ly/usingyourtech Create Inclusive E-mail and Materials https://bit.ly/inclusive-checklist From: athen-list On Behalf Of Alexis Delevett Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:56 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: TTS apps - your recommendations? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. If you do have access to ePubs I can recommend Dolphin EasyReader, it's free and available for iOS & Android ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Katherine Deibel > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 9:48 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Athen] TTS apps - your recommendations? For iOS, Voice Dream Reader is great. Android's version, the Legere Reader, is good as well. Neither is free but they are relatively low cost. Both tend to work better with epubs than PDFs. Katherine "Kate" Deibel, PhD Library Accessibility Specialist Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 12:37 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] TTS apps - your recommendations? Hello all! I hope you had a wonderful winter break and are well. I'm curious as to what apps you suggest for students who want to use TTS on their mobile devices - typically a phone. Ran across an interesting article on the topic, Best Test-to-Speech Apps - Listen to Text. Your thoughts would greatly be appreciated! Warm regards, Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT she, her, hers Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu Thu Jan 20 10:54:51 2022 From: Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu (Stager, Catherine) Date: Thu Jan 20 10:57:37 2022 Subject: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <127c1386c80346d1b7dbcd542d69ec55@frontrange.edu> Hi Justin, You need to export to HTML or have MathTalk for screen readers to read them in Word. At the AHG Math access round table, the notes were compiled in a Google doc (yes I have a bit.ly for that too). bit.ly/matha11y Best, Cath From: athen-list On Behalf Of Romack, Justin Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 8:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Howdy colleagues! I owe gratitude to a number of you who pointed me toward resources on piecing together a scalable workflow for LaTeX to MathML/Braille math. Beyond grateful! 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Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Stager, Catherine Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? Hi Justin, You need to export to HTML or have MathTalk for screen readers to read them in Word. At the AHG Math access round table, the notes were compiled in a Google doc (yes I have a bit.ly for that too). bit.ly/matha11y Best, Cath From: athen-list On Behalf Of Romack, Justin Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 8:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Howdy colleagues! I owe gratitude to a number of you who pointed me toward resources on piecing together a scalable workflow for LaTeX to MathML/Braille math. Beyond grateful! I have our team looking at the text and I?m seeing goofy results with the output of MathType and the resulting import in Duxbury for Braille translation. Would someone with MathType and/or Duxbury experience give this a glance and let me know if you see anything noticeably wrong with this sample page of content? It?s odd because the equations are entered with MathType, but NVDA and JAWS won?t seem to interact with them as math content in Word. Any advice or insight welcomed! Thanks, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. 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Best regards, Cath From: athen-list On Behalf Of Monica Olsson Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 1:58 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Hi Cath, What is the Math round table? I'm new to this group and don't know if that is another group or an event that took place. Thank you for sharing the Google doc. [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass]Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate - Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu * o: 360-704-3922 * c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu * Twitter: @SBCTCWashington * Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Stager, Catherine > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? Hi Justin, You need to export to HTML or have MathTalk for screen readers to read them in Word. At the AHG Math access round table, the notes were compiled in a Google doc (yes I have a bit.ly for that too). bit.ly/matha11y Best, Cath From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Romack, Justin Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 8:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Howdy colleagues! I owe gratitude to a number of you who pointed me toward resources on piecing together a scalable workflow for LaTeX to MathML/Braille math. Beyond grateful! I have our team looking at the text and I'm seeing goofy results with the output of MathType and the resulting import in Duxbury for Braille translation. Would someone with MathType and/or Duxbury experience give this a glance and let me know if you see anything noticeably wrong with this sample page of content? It's odd because the equations are entered with MathType, but NVDA and JAWS won't seem to interact with them as math content in Word. Any advice or insight welcomed! Thanks, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 22672 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 10664 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu Thu Jan 20 13:57:19 2022 From: Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu (Stager, Catherine) Date: Thu Jan 20 14:30:54 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: TTS apps - your recommendations? In-Reply-To: <3890cd8726dc4850b7b9629c2f6a31f3@frontrange.edu> References: <3890cd8726dc4850b7b9629c2f6a31f3@frontrange.edu> Message-ID: <0dd73026fa974a53a25c4dc631f760d3@frontrange.edu> From: Stager, Catherine Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 11:43 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: RE: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: TTS apps - your recommendations? Depending upon what they are reading, we often recommend Voice Dream and iBooks on iOS. On Android, it is quite variable depending upon what the student needs - Legere Reader and Moon Reader Plus are good options. Students are frequently using extensions too rather than apps (see bit.ly/extensionsahg for the AHG presentation I shared). ReaderMode.io, Immersive Reader (for Chrome and FF), Nat Reader, Pericles, Read Aloud, HelperBird... For quick OCR and TTS, Google Lens has been improving vastly. Feel free to explore our Getting Started Guides - short guides we produced for students on supportive technology bit.ly/usingyourtech. These are free and open for educational use - if you'd like to customize for your students, we'd appreciate a footnote. We also did a series on IDK word for which we did an overview at AHG (bit.ly/idk-wordAHG ) ... I didn't Know Microsoft Word could do that... bit.ly/idk-word and an overview video (12 minutes) of these with a faculty focus... bit.ly/IDK-word-faculty. Best regards, Cath Catherine M. Stager Assistive Technology Specialist Catherine.Stager@frontrange.edu (720) 336-1245 Disability Support Services - Assistive Technology Check out our Getting Started Guides for At Home Support! https://bit.ly/usingyourtech Create Inclusive E-mail and Materials https://bit.ly/inclusive-checklist From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Alexis Delevett Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:56 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: TTS apps - your recommendations? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. If you do have access to ePubs I can recommend Dolphin EasyReader, it's free and available for iOS & Android ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Katherine Deibel > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 9:48 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Athen] TTS apps - your recommendations? For iOS, Voice Dream Reader is great. Android's version, the Legere Reader, is good as well. Neither is free but they are relatively low cost. Both tend to work better with epubs than PDFs. Katherine "Kate" Deibel, PhD Library Accessibility Specialist Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Heidi Scher Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 12:37 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] TTS apps - your recommendations? Hello all! I hope you had a wonderful winter break and are well. I'm curious as to what apps you suggest for students who want to use TTS on their mobile devices - typically a phone. Ran across an interesting article on the topic, Best Test-to-Speech Apps - Listen to Text. Your thoughts would greatly be appreciated! Warm regards, Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT she, her, hers Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From molsson at sbctc.edu Fri Jan 21 08:48:41 2022 From: molsson at sbctc.edu (Monica Olsson) Date: Fri Jan 21 08:49:33 2022 Subject: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? In-Reply-To: <8438c4b0cc6447e388632ed4bbe4c2e1@frontrange.edu> References: <127c1386c80346d1b7dbcd542d69ec55@frontrange.edu> <8438c4b0cc6447e388632ed4bbe4c2e1@frontrange.edu> Message-ID: Thanks for that information, Cath. [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass] Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington ? Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Stager, Catherine Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 1:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? Hi Monica, The Round Tables are facilitated discussions held at the Accessing Higher Ground conference. This past year, I was the facilitator for Accessible STEM group at the Denver conference site. The notes from our sessions and contributions to the doc were from various attendees. Welcome to ATHEN! Best regards, Cath From: athen-list On Behalf Of Monica Olsson Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 1:58 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Hi Cath, What is the Math round table? I'm new to this group and don't know if that is another group or an event that took place. Thank you for sharing the Google doc. [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass]Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington ? Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Stager, Catherine > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:54 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? Hi Justin, You need to export to HTML or have MathTalk for screen readers to read them in Word. At the AHG Math access round table, the notes were compiled in a Google doc (yes I have a bit.ly for that too). bit.ly/matha11y Best, Cath From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Romack, Justin Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 8:55 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Howdy colleagues! I owe gratitude to a number of you who pointed me toward resources on piecing together a scalable workflow for LaTeX to MathML/Braille math. Beyond grateful! I have our team looking at the text and I?m seeing goofy results with the output of MathType and the resulting import in Duxbury for Braille translation. Would someone with MathType and/or Duxbury experience give this a glance and let me know if you see anything noticeably wrong with this sample page of content? It?s odd because the equations are entered with MathType, but NVDA and JAWS won?t seem to interact with them as math content in Word. Any advice or insight welcomed! 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Re: Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? > (Monica Olsson) > 3. Re: Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? > (Stager, Catherine) > 4. Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: TTS apps - your recommendations? > (Stager, Catherine) > 5. Re: Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? > (Monica Olsson) > 6. Phonak RogerOn BlueTooth Pairing > (Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 20:55:32 +0000 > From: Monica Olsson > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: [Athen] Accessible Meeting Poll tool? > Message-ID: > < > BL0PR20MB20834CA70D558DC4026426B3AA5A9@BL0PR20MB2083.namprd20.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Hi all! > > I'm aware that Doodle Poll doesn't provide a very accessible experience to > AT users. I'm curious if anyone has identified a more accessible > alternative? Has anyone used the "Find Time" add-on feature in Microsoft > 365? > > > > > [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass] > > Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) > > Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator > > Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges > > molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: > 206-914-7187 > > sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington< > https://twitter.com/SBCTCWashington> ? Facebook: @WASBCTC< > https://www.facebook.com/wasbctc/> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20220120/9688af3d/attachment-0001.html > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Outlook-Title_ SBC.png > Type: image/png > Size: 22672 bytes > Desc: Outlook-Title_ SBC.png > URL: < > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20220120/9688af3d/attachment-0001.png > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 20:57:35 +0000 > From: Monica Olsson > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way > off? > Message-ID: > < > BL0PR20MB20830751E884E14A8F25C649AA5A9@BL0PR20MB2083.namprd20.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Hi Cath, > > What is the Math round table? I'm new to this group and don't know if that > is another group or an event that took place. Thank you for sharing the > Google doc. > > > > > [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass] > > Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) > > Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator > > Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges > > molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: > 206-914-7187 > > sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington< > https://twitter.com/SBCTCWashington> ? Facebook: @WASBCTC< > https://www.facebook.com/wasbctc/> > > ________________________________ > From: athen-list on > behalf of Stager, Catherine > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:54 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? > > > Hi Justin, > > You need to export to HTML or have MathTalk for screen readers to read > them in Word. > > > > At the AHG Math access round table, the notes were compiled in a Google > doc (yes I have a bit.ly for that too). bit.ly/matha11y< > https://bit.ly/matha11y> > > Best, > > Cath > > > > From: athen-list On > Behalf Of Romack, Justin > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 8:55 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? > > > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community > College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize > the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT > Help Desk if you have any questions. > > Howdy colleagues! > > > > I owe gratitude to a number of you who pointed me toward resources on > piecing together a scalable workflow for LaTeX to MathML/Braille math. > Beyond grateful! > > > > I have our team looking at the text and I?m seeing goofy results with the > output of MathType and the resulting import in Duxbury for Braille > translation. > > > > Would someone with MathType and/or Duxbury experience give this a glance > and let me know if you see anything noticeably wrong with this sample page > of content? It?s odd because the equations are entered with MathType, but > NVDA and JAWS won?t seem to interact with them as math content in Word. > > > > Any advice or insight welcomed! > > > > Thanks, > > J > > > > > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator > > Disability Resources | Texas A&M University > > 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 > > > > ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu justinr@disability.tamu.edu> | disability.tamu.edu > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20220120/4f37e538/attachment-0001.html > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Outlook-Title_ SBC.png > Type: image/png > Size: 22672 bytes > Desc: Outlook-Title_ SBC.png > URL: < > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20220120/4f37e538/attachment-0001.png > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 21:55:38 +0000 > From: "Stager, Catherine" > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way > off? > Message-ID: <8438c4b0cc6447e388632ed4bbe4c2e1@frontrange.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Monica, > The Round Tables are facilitated discussions held at the Accessing Higher > Ground conference. This past year, I > was the facilitator for Accessible STEM group at the Denver conference > site. The notes from our sessions and contributions to the doc were from > various attendees. > Welcome to ATHEN! > Best regards, > Cath > > From: athen-list On > Behalf Of Monica Olsson > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 1:58 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community > College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize > the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT > Help Desk if you have any questions. > Hi Cath, > > What is the Math round table? I'm new to this group and don't know if that > is another group or an event that took place. Thank you for sharing the > Google doc. > > > > > [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass]Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) > > Policy Associate - Accessible IT Coordinator > > Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges > > molsson@sbctc.edu * o: 360-704-3922 * c: > 206-914-7187 > > sbctc.edu * Twitter: @SBCTCWashington< > https://twitter.com/SBCTCWashington> * Facebook: @WASBCTC< > https://www.facebook.com/wasbctc/> > > ________________________________ > From: athen-list athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>> on behalf of Stager, > Catherine Catherine.Stager@frontrange.edu>> > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:54 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? > > > Hi Justin, > > You need to export to HTML or have MathTalk for screen readers to read > them in Word. > > > > At the AHG Math access round table, the notes were compiled in a Google > doc (yes I have a bit.ly for that too). bit.ly/matha11y< > https://bit.ly/matha11y> > > Best, > > Cath > > > > From: athen-list athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Romack, > Justin > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 8:55 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? > > > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community > College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize > the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT > Help Desk if you have any questions. > > Howdy colleagues! > > > > I owe gratitude to a number of you who pointed me toward resources on > piecing together a scalable workflow for LaTeX to MathML/Braille math. > Beyond grateful! > > > > I have our team looking at the text and I'm seeing goofy results with the > output of MathType and the resulting import in Duxbury for Braille > translation. > > > > Would someone with MathType and/or Duxbury experience give this a glance > and let me know if you see anything noticeably wrong with this sample page > of content? It's odd because the equations are entered with MathType, but > NVDA and JAWS won't seem to interact with them as math content in Word. > > > > Any advice or insight welcomed! > > > > Thanks, > > J > > > > > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator > > Disability Resources | Texas A&M University > > 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 > > > > ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu justinr@disability.tamu.edu> | disability.tamu.edu > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20220120/f3622368/attachment-0001.html > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image001.png > Type: image/png > Size: 22672 bytes > Desc: image001.png > URL: < > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20220120/f3622368/attachment-0002.png > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image002.png > Type: image/png > Size: 10664 bytes > Desc: image002.png > URL: < > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20220120/f3622368/attachment-0003.png > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 21:57:19 +0000 > From: "Stager, Catherine" > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: TTS apps - your recommendations? > Message-ID: <0dd73026fa974a53a25c4dc631f760d3@frontrange.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > From: Stager, Catherine > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 11:43 AM > To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: RE: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: TTS apps - your recommendations? > > Depending upon what they are reading, we often recommend Voice Dream and > iBooks on iOS. On Android, it is quite variable depending upon what the > student needs - Legere Reader and Moon Reader Plus are good options. > Students are frequently using extensions too rather than apps (see > bit.ly/extensionsahg for the AHG > presentation I shared). > ReaderMode.io, Immersive Reader (for Chrome and FF), Nat Reader, > Pericles, Read Aloud, HelperBird... > For quick OCR and TTS, Google Lens has been improving vastly. > Feel free to explore our Getting Started Guides - short guides we produced > for students on supportive technology bit.ly/usingyourtech< > https://bit.ly/usingyourtech>. > These are free and open for educational use - if you'd like to customize > for your students, we'd appreciate a footnote. > > We also did a series on IDK word for which we did an overview at AHG ( > bit.ly/idk-wordAHG ) ... I didn't Know > Microsoft Word could do that... bit.ly/idk-word > and an overview video (12 minutes) of these with a faculty focus... > bit.ly/IDK-word-faculty. > > > Best regards, > Cath > > Catherine M. Stager > Assistive Technology Specialist > Catherine.Stager@frontrange.edu > > (720) 336-1245 > > Disability Support Services - Assistive Technology > Check out our Getting Started Guides for At Home Support!< > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L4m9EQWdjBE0psQBVYxrdamze_JlUGYkANAhd1lgYO8/edit?usp=sharing > > > https://bit.ly/usingyourtech > Create Inclusive E-mail and Materials > https://bit.ly/inclusive-checklist > > > > > From: athen-list athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Alexis > Delevett > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:56 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: TTS apps - your recommendations? > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community > College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize > the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT > Help Desk if you have any questions. > If you do have access to ePubs I can recommend Dolphin EasyReader< > https://yourdolphin.com/products/individuals/easyreader-app>, it's free > and available for iOS & Android > ________________________________ > From: athen-list athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>> on behalf of Katherine > Deibel > > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 9:48 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Athen] TTS apps - your recommendations? > > > For iOS, Voice Dream Reader is great. Android's version, the Legere > Reader, is good as well. Neither is free but they are relatively low cost. > Both tend to work better with epubs than PDFs. > > > > Katherine "Kate" Deibel, PhD > > Library Accessibility Specialist > > Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky< > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fmetageeky&data=04%7C01%7Calexis_delevett%40cuesta.edu%7C386e2bfe20ff4487576d08d9dc3d803a%7Cdd06762afacb4cd7a4a5cc0ba50bcc30%7C0%7C0%7C637782978983298700%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=2655KLO6iGMzUAwaptnBDrAUyGrOQ3kxwHhZ4phPPNk%3D&reserved=0 > > > GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky< > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fmetageeky&data=04%7C01%7Calexis_delevett%40cuesta.edu%7C386e2bfe20ff4487576d08d9dc3d803a%7Cdd06762afacb4cd7a4a5cc0ba50bcc30%7C0%7C0%7C637782978983298700%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=vIvucQxkbR4Y%2B3Ubqn9egkEsv69YTRkM91N1C%2Fv7Hf4%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > From: athen-list athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Heidi Scher > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 12:37 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: [Athen] TTS apps - your recommendations? > > > > Hello all! > > > > I hope you had a wonderful winter break and are well. I'm curious as to > what apps you suggest for students who want to use TTS on their mobile > devices - typically a phone. > > > > Ran across an interesting article on the topic, Best Test-to-Speech Apps - > Listen to Text< > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.courselounge.com%2Fbest-text-to-speech-apps%2F&data=04%7C01%7Calexis_delevett%40cuesta.edu%7C386e2bfe20ff4487576d08d9dc3d803a%7Cdd06762afacb4cd7a4a5cc0ba50bcc30%7C0%7C0%7C637782978983298700%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=TeHQ94iq10vZHR4QnpmnEPKnuf2Df4h7%2B%2FDlMe%2FBS34%3D&reserved=0 > >. > > > > Your thoughts would greatly be appreciated! > > Warm regards, > > > > Heidi > > > > > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director - AT > > she, her, hers > > Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas > > 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 phone > 479.575.7445 fax > +++++++++++++++ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20220120/6d107572/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 16:48:41 +0000 > From: Monica Olsson > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way > off? > Message-ID: > < > BL0PR20MB208301F4A81C4239515CF613AA5B9@BL0PR20MB2083.namprd20.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Thanks for that information, Cath. > > > > > [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass] > > Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) > > Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator > > Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges > > molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: > 206-914-7187 > > sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington< > https://twitter.com/SBCTCWashington> ? Facebook: @WASBCTC< > https://www.facebook.com/wasbctc/> > > ________________________________ > From: athen-list on > behalf of Stager, Catherine > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 1:55 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? > > > Hi Monica, > > The Round Tables are facilitated discussions held at the Accessing Higher > Ground conference. This past year, I > was the facilitator for Accessible STEM group at the Denver conference > site. The notes from our sessions and contributions to the doc were from > various attendees. > > Welcome to ATHEN! > > Best regards, > > Cath > > > > From: athen-list On > Behalf Of Monica Olsson > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 1:58 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? > > > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community > College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize > the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT > Help Desk if you have any questions. > > Hi Cath, > > > > What is the Math round table? I'm new to this group and don't know if that > is another group or an event that took place. Thank you for sharing the > Google doc. > > > > > > [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass]Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) > > Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator > > Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges > > molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: > 206-914-7187 > > sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington< > https://twitter.com/SBCTCWashington> ? Facebook: @WASBCTC< > https://www.facebook.com/wasbctc/> > > > > ________________________________ > > From: athen-list athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>> on behalf of Stager, > Catherine Catherine.Stager@frontrange.edu>> > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:54 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? > > > > Hi Justin, > > You need to export to HTML or have MathTalk for screen readers to read > them in Word. > > > > At the AHG Math access round table, the notes were compiled in a Google > doc (yes I have a bit.ly for that too). bit.ly/matha11y< > https://bit.ly/matha11y> > > Best, > > Cath > > > > From: athen-list athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Romack, > Justin > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 8:55 PM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: [Athen] Is MathType/Word being cranky - or is this way off? > > > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community > College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize > the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT > Help Desk if you have any questions. > > Howdy colleagues! > > > > I owe gratitude to a number of you who pointed me toward resources on > piecing together a scalable workflow for LaTeX to MathML/Braille math. > Beyond grateful! > > > > I have our team looking at the text and I?m seeing goofy results with the > output of MathType and the resulting import in Duxbury for Braille > translation. > > > > Would someone with MathType and/or Duxbury experience give this a glance > and let me know if you see anything noticeably wrong with this sample page > of content? It?s odd because the equations are entered with MathType, but > NVDA and JAWS won?t seem to interact with them as math content in Word. > > > > Any advice or insight welcomed! > > > > Thanks, > > J > > > > > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator > > Disability Resources | Texas A&M University > > 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 > > > > ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu justinr@disability.tamu.edu> | disability.tamu.edu > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. 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The student had their hearing aids paired with Phonak's > PartnerMic at their previous school, so I just assumed the RogerOn would > pair right away, but so far haven't had any luck, but also haven't > contacted Phonak yet. > > Also curious if anyone has the inside scoop on when the LiveScribe Echo > 2's might be available? I have a few early adopters that love the > Symphony's but most of them like being able to tap the page to listen, so > hoping to restock my Echo supply sooner rather than later. > > > Thanks, > > Eric Matson | Assistive Technology Specialist > Center for Disability Access and Resources > Division of Student Affairs > The University of Idaho > Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| > Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 > Fax: 208.885.9404 > Campus Zip: 4257 > > Pronouns: He / Him / His > > This communication may contain privileged, non-public or other > confidential information. 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Each student is on their own Kubi and can work with their in-person peers. If it is more a direct instruction class with someone at the front of the room, we have shoeboxes with a webcam on a tripod, a really long USB cable and a Jabra wireless speakerphone. The faculty plugs that in and joins the Zoom meeting from the house(instructor station) computer. Good audio and decent video is achieved and they can place the camera wherever they want. If it is a seminar class where everyone is talking around a conference table, we use the Owl. We also use the Owl for group counseling classes since they are sitting in a circle and the 360-degree view is awesome. The Owl is good for a medium sized room (think conference room) Finally, if we have an instructor out but wants to allow students to meet in their classroom, we have the Ohmnibot which is a drivable robot. We are experimenting with this one so I can't yet report back on its usefulness. Dawn Dawn Hunziker Assistant Director, Digital and Physical Access | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Alexis Delevett Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 3:10 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT][Athen] Telepresence robot recommendations External Email Hello! We are looking into options for allowing individual students or even groups of students to temporarily attend in-person classes. Is anyone able to share their experience with a telepresence device such as the Double or Owl? We have also heard good things about Kubi. Alexis Delevett Alternate Media Facilitator 805-592-9225 Book Appointment Join Zoom Meeting Room [Cuesta College] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I believe that my colleague has a team of staff who attend any class using this technology in order to get remote students connected and the robots set up ? I don?t believe this is something the faculty handle on their own. Information from my colleague: We have a bunch of different ways to solve the issue that Alexis put forward. We break out the Kubi when it is just a few remote students and the class does a lot of small group activities. Each student is on their own Kubi and can work with their in-person peers. If it is more a direct instruction class with someone at the front of the room, we have shoeboxes with a webcam on a tripod, a really long USB cable and a Jabra wireless speakerphone. The faculty plugs that in and joins the Zoom meeting from the house(instructor station) computer. Good audio and decent video is achieved and they can place the camera wherever they want. If it is a seminar class where everyone is talking around a conference table, we use the Owl. We also use the Owl for group counseling classes since they are sitting in a circle and the 360-degree view is awesome. The Owl is good for a medium sized room (think conference room) Finally, if we have an instructor out but wants to allow students to meet in their classroom, we have the Ohmnibot which is a drivable robot. We are experimenting with this one so I can?t yet report back on its usefulness. Dawn Dawn Hunziker Assistant Director, Digital and Physical Access | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Alexis Delevett Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 3:10 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT][Athen] Telepresence robot recommendations External Email Hello! We are looking into options for allowing individual students or even groups of students to temporarily attend in-person classes. Is anyone able to share their experience with a telepresence device such as the Double or Owl? We have also heard good things about Kubi. Alexis Delevett Alternate Media Facilitator 805-592-9225 Book Appointment Join Zoom Meeting Room [Cuesta College] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 38916 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From hascherdss at gmail.com Mon Jan 24 06:11:23 2022 From: hascherdss at gmail.com (Heidi Scher) Date: Mon Jan 24 06:12:30 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: TTS apps - your recommendations? In-Reply-To: <0dd73026fa974a53a25c4dc631f760d3@frontrange.edu> References: <3890cd8726dc4850b7b9629c2f6a31f3@frontrange.edu> <0dd73026fa974a53a25c4dc631f760d3@frontrange.edu> Message-ID: Hello all! As usual, you have provided me with something new to look into! I hadn't heard of Legere Reader before and didn't realize that Moon Reader Plus was still a good alternative. THANKS so much, one and all! Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT *she, her, hers* Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 3:59 PM Stager, Catherine < Catherine.Stager@frontrange.edu> wrote: > > > > > *From:* Stager, Catherine > *Sent:* Thursday, January 20, 2022 11:43 AM > *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* RE: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: TTS apps - your recommendations? > > > > Depending upon what they are reading, we often recommend Voice Dream and > iBooks on iOS. On Android, it is quite variable depending upon what the > student needs ? Legere Reader and Moon Reader Plus are good options. > > Students are frequently using extensions too rather than apps (see > bit.ly/extensionsahg for the AHG > presentation I shared). > > ReaderMode.io, Immersive Reader (for Chrome and FF), Nat Reader, > Pericles, Read Aloud, HelperBird? > > For quick OCR and TTS, Google Lens has been improving vastly. > > Feel free to explore our Getting Started Guides ? short guides we produced > for students on supportive technology bit.ly/usingyourtech. > > These are free and open for educational use ? if you?d like to customize > for your students, we?d appreciate a footnote. > > > > We also did a series on IDK word for which we did an overview at AHG ( > bit.ly/idk-wordAHG ) ? I didn?t Know Microsoft Word could do that? > bit.ly/idk-word and an overview video (12 minutes) of these with a > faculty focus? > > bit.ly/IDK-word-faculty. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Cath > > > > Catherine M. Stager > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Catherine.Stager@frontrange.edu > > > > (720) 336-1245 > > > > *Disability Support Services - Assistive Technology* > > *Check out our Getting Started Guides for At Home Support! > * > > *https://bit.ly/usingyourtech * > > *Create Inclusive E-mail and Materials* > > *https://bit.ly/inclusive-checklist * > > > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Alexis Delevett > *Sent:* Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:56 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: TTS apps - your recommendations? > > > > > > *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community > College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize > the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT > Help Desk if you have any questions. > > If you do have access to ePubs I can recommend Dolphin EasyReader > , it's free > and available for iOS & Android > ------------------------------ > > *From:* athen-list on > behalf of Katherine Deibel > *Sent:* Thursday, January 20, 2022 9:48 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [Athen] TTS apps - your recommendations? > > > > For iOS, Voice Dream Reader is great. Android?s version, the Legere > Reader, is good as well. Neither is free but they are relatively low cost. > Both tend to work better with epubs than PDFs. > > > > Katherine ?Kate? Deibel, PhD > > Library Accessibility Specialist > > Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky > > GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Heidi Scher > *Sent:* Thursday, January 20, 2022 12:37 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] TTS apps - your recommendations? > > > > Hello all! > > > > I hope you had a wonderful winter break and are well. I'm curious as to > what apps you suggest for students who want to use TTS on their mobile > devices - typically a phone. > > > > Ran across an interesting article on the topic, Best Test-to-Speech Apps > - Listen to Text > > . > > > > Your thoughts would greatly be appreciated! > > Warm regards, > > > > Heidi > > > > > > +++++++++++++++ > Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC > Associate Director - AT > > *she, her, hers* > > Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas > > 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 > Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479.575.3104 phone > 479.575.7445 fax > +++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Norwich, BSME, MSIS Assistant Director of Disability & Access Services 25 Buick Street 3rd Floor, Boston MA 02215 lnorwich@bu.edu (email) 617-353-3658 (vox) 617-353-9646 (fax) www.bu.edu/disability (website) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lydia at autistichoya.com Mon Jan 24 10:12:57 2022 From: lydia at autistichoya.com (Lydia X. Z. Brown) Date: Mon Jan 24 10:52:51 2022 Subject: [Athen] Next Monday: #LiberatingWebinars presents Food Justice & Disability Justice Message-ID: Please join the Autistic Women & Nonbinary Network for a discussion by Allilsa Fernandez and Tony Alexander, moderated by Lexie Holden, on food justice and disability justice. *FOOD JUSTICE AND DISABILITY JUSTICE* Monday, 31 January 2022 8pm Eastern / 5pm Pacific RSVP Food is a human right, and food justice is a fight against systems that take that right away. As a community we must ask, how do we bring food justice to a world that harbors resources for only some groups of people? How do we navigate the systems that take resources away from marginalized people, especially disabled people, so everyone can eat, survive, and thrive? And how do we build a world where food justice becomes a reality and not just a dream? There are ways to go about this. Please join us in this conversation as Allilsa, Tony, and Lexie share their insights on food justice and disability justice. We will provide ASL interpretation and CART captioning for this event, which participants will be able to join by video or phone. *Speakers* *Allilsa Fernandez *is a mental health, disability activist and consultant. They have worked with companies such as Lionsgate, Facebook and Verizon and volunteered for Sylvia Rivera Law Project to work on TGNC shelter organizing and Met counsel on Housing Justice. *Tony Alexander *currently serves as the Director of Policy & Advocacy for the Autistic People of Color fund. A graduate of Northeastern University School of Law, he has spent the last several years working with nonprofit and community-based organizations, assisting with their advocacy, community engagement, and policy analysis needs. He has a particular passion for addressing food justice, disability justice, and racial justice justice. He also believes in using collective organizing and policy advocacy, through an intersectional lens, as necessary drivers for bringing about radical, transformative, and scalable impact. *Moderator*: *Lexie Holden* serves as the Associate Director of Policy & Government Relations for the Intertribal Agriculture Council. Her work centers on uplifting the needs of Native American producers and Tribal communities, ensuring that their voices have a seat at the table in national policy. She also leads the Native Farm Bill Coalition, a group of more than 170 Tribal Nations, as well as Native, Intertribal, and allied organizations, all working to advance the policy priorities of Indian Country through the federal farm bill. She is a citizen of the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma, a graduate of the University of Chicago, and an alum of the 27th Class of Bill Emerson National Hunger Fellows. RSVP Please note that after registering on EventBrite, you will also receive instructions for receiving a Zoom link. AWN will host this event on Zoom as well as livestream to Facebook. Please direct any questions to Nancy Yang at nyang@awnnetwork.org. [Photo: Event banner shows vegetables. There are three people. First is Lexie, a blonde-haired, blue-eyed woman standing in a field of purple lupines, wearing a yellow shirt. Second is Allilsa, a brown-skinned person wearing a red sweater on top of a white shirt with a bow tie. Third is Tony, a young, Black man with short loc?d hair and a dark brown birthmark covering half his forehead. He?s wearing: a light, gray suit; a white shirt; and a navy blue tie that has light blue dots all over the tie. Text says, Food Justice and Disability Justice, 31 Jan 2022 at 8pm Eastern / 5pm Pacific. The corner shows the AWN logo - a large "a" with a dragonfly on it, and the words awnnetwork.org. End photo description.] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ecmatson at uidaho.edu Mon Jan 24 10:49:47 2022 From: ecmatson at uidaho.edu (Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu)) Date: Mon Jan 24 11:32:50 2022 Subject: [Athen] Printable LiveScribe Graph Paper? Message-ID: Hey all, Does anyone have a file LiveScribe Graph paper? My searching seems to be brining up a bunch of Pinterest images, but no actual file. Thanks, Eric Matson | Assistive Technology Specialist Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 Pronouns: He / Him / His This communication may contain privileged, non-public or other confidential information. If you have received it in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and immediately delete the message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the contents. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net Mon Jan 24 11:10:25 2022 From: ShelleyHaven at techpotential.net (Shelley Haven) Date: Mon Jan 24 11:36:44 2022 Subject: [Athen] Printable LiveScribe Graph Paper? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <84E4F755-9AEE-49EF-901B-D22D05EC7B5C@techpotential.net> Try these: Quarter Inch Printable Graphpads #1-4 https://rohankapoor.com/projects/livescribe/quarter-inch-printable-graphpads-1-4/ These were created nearly 12 years ago, but the four files appear to download and open properly. - Shelley _____________________________ Shelley Haven ATP, RET Assistive Technology Consultant www.TechPotential.net > On MondayJan 24, at 11:49 AM, Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) wrote: > > Hey all, > > Does anyone have a file LiveScribe Graph paper? My searching seems to be brining up a bunch of Pinterest images, but no actual file. > > Thanks, > > Eric Matson | Assistive Technology Specialist > Center for Disability Access and Resources > Division of Student Affairs > The University of Idaho > Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 > Fax: 208.885.9404 > Campus Zip: 4257 > > Pronouns: He / Him / His > > This communication may contain privileged, non-public or other confidential information. If you have received it in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and immediately delete the message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the contents. Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skeegan at stanford.edu Mon Jan 24 15:30:16 2022 From: skeegan at stanford.edu (Sean J Keegan) Date: Mon Jan 24 15:31:33 2022 Subject: [Athen] Reference/citation management tool and JAWS? Message-ID: Hello all, Does anyone have experience or knowledge as to what citation/reference management tools are compatible with JAWS? I have a faculty request about a doctoral student struggling with this issue and the need to use a reference/citation management tool, like EndNote and Zotero. The student is finding that JAWS is not providing the relevant information when attempting to use these reference/citation management tools. Any ideas or suggestions for a compatible solution? Am also open to any ideas as to what solutions have worked for other graduate students who are blind and needing to use such a reference management tool. Thanks in advance, Sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Mon Jan 24 15:57:23 2022 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype@gmail.com) Date: Mon Jan 24 15:57:51 2022 Subject: [Athen] Reference/citation management tool and JAWS? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Sean, Have you tried the Mendeley Citation & reference app? Their VPAT indicates accessibility features working with both JAWS & NVDA. It might be worth exploring. I know it works with dragon naturally speaking so it?s likely to work with JAWS. Here?s a link. Check it out! Let us know if it works. https://www.mendeley.com/reference-management/mendeley-cite Wink On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 3:31 PM Sean J Keegan wrote: > Hello all, > > Does anyone have experience or knowledge as to what citation/reference > management tools are compatible with JAWS? > > I have a faculty request about a doctoral student struggling with this > issue and the need to use a reference/citation management tool, like > EndNote and Zotero. The student is finding that JAWS is not providing the > relevant information when attempting to use these reference/citation > management tools. > > Any ideas or suggestions for a compatible solution? > > Am also open to any ideas as to what solutions have worked for other > graduate students who are blind and needing to use such a reference > management tool. > > Thanks in advance, > Sean > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Wink Harner Assistive Technology Consulting and Training Alternative Text Production Portland OR. foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eslucio at umd.edu Tue Jan 25 08:26:12 2022 From: eslucio at umd.edu (Emily S. Lucio) Date: Tue Jan 25 08:26:47 2022 Subject: [Athen] Maping technology and walking routes Message-ID: Hi everyone. Our campus does not have names for our sidewalks/paths, which I am assuming your campus does not as well. We are looking to up our game on our accessible map and would like to help map a walking route for persons who are Blind or low vision. We would then hope to be able to send the walking route to the person's phone. Has anyone done this? I would love to get your insights? Thanks Respectfully, *Emily Singer Lucio She/Her/Hers* ADA/504 Coordinator University of Maryland, College Park Office of Diversity & Inclusion 3123 Susquehanna Hall 4200 Leigh Road College Park MD 20742 tel:301 405-2841 | fax:301 314-9992 eslucio@umd.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From molsson at sbctc.edu Tue Jan 25 08:34:55 2022 From: molsson at sbctc.edu (Monica Olsson) Date: Tue Jan 25 08:35:08 2022 Subject: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 192, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The DAISY Consortium presented a webinar in October about accessible Math workflow. It is a wonderful resource. Creating and Reading Accessible Math. [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass] Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate - Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu * o: 360-704-3922 * c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu * Twitter: @SBCTCWashington * Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Pyatt, Elizabeth J Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 1:22 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu ; justinr@disability.tamu.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 192, Issue 2 Our workflow is essentially to convert everything to an accessible Word file. Unfortunately there isn't good MathML support in PDF files so they can't be remediated. If the student is using JAWS or NVDA, there are ways to ensure that the students can read the equation embedded in Word. If the student is using VoiceOver, you may need to convert the file to HTML with embedded MathML. There are tools which can make the conversion pretty quickly. Assuming that the math in the Word file is embedded in a MathType or Word equation editing tool, Duxbury can translate the content to Nemeth Braille. Or you can pay a vendor to do it. As for equation editors in Word, Math Type is the safest bet, but if your ALT staff uses a Mac, then you need to use the Word editor (and JAWS does read out Word equations in an MathML fashion). Note that you need to most recent version of Duxbry to convert Word equations to Braille. The good news is that anything inputted into Canvas with the equation editor is converted to MathML for screen readers. Hope this helps. Elizabeth On Jan 5, 2022, at 3:00 PM, athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu wrote: Message: 1 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 23:38:08 +0000 From: "Romack, Justin" > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Math coursework for blind student Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Howdy y'all! Happy new year - and best wishes as you start a new semester! We have a blind student who has added a math class to their schedule this spring. I feel like we have some logistical hurdles to jump in the next two weeks: (1) The textbook (which I have as a PDF), (2) Lecture notes (which I also have a PDF), (3) Individual and groupwork assignments (which are still being developed), and (4) Assessments in Canvas. This student is not proficient with screen reading tech anyway, but has said Nemeth Braille is the only modality they've been able to use for math in the past. I'd be curious if you can share input on the following: 1. Best workflow for readying math content in a PDF to transcription in Braille. 2. Best methods for a student to complete their work in Nemeth Braille and have this transcribed to print. 3. Resources on audio-based scientific and graphing calculators, whether a physical unit or digital option. 4. Recommendations for Braille transcription vendors (sending off-list may work best). I am a little concerned about the turnaround time, especially considering the volume of material and the amount of content we will not have access to ahead of the semester, but hopeful y'all have some good resources and processes to consider. Grateful for the collective wisdom of this group! Best, J =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Elizabeth J. 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Carmen Fernandez she/her/hers Assistive Technology Coordinator IT Services University of the Arts London London College of Communication Elephant and Castle SE1 6SB London United Kingdom? Mobile: +44 (0)7809 551990 arts.ac.uk ????????????????????? Please consider the environment before printing this email. ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Emily S. Lucio Sent: 25 January 2022 16:26 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Maping technology and walking routes Hi everyone. Our campus does not have names for our sidewalks/paths, which I am assuming your campus does not as well. We are looking to up our game on our accessible map and would like to help map a walking route for persons who are Blind or low vision. We would then hope to be able to send the walking route to the person's phone. Has anyone done this? I would love to get your insights? Thanks Respectfully, Emily Singer Lucio She/Her/Hers ADA/504 Coordinator University of Maryland, College Park Office of Diversity & Inclusion 3123 Susquehanna Hall 4200 Leigh Road College Park MD 20742 tel:301 405-2841 | fax:301 314-9992 eslucio@umd.edu This email and any attachments are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email and/or its attachments you must not take any action based upon them and you must not copy or show them to anyone. Please send the email back to us and immediately and permanently delete it and its attachments. Where this email is unrelated to the business of University of the Arts London or of any of its group companies the opinions expressed in it are the opinions of the sender and do not necessarily constitute those of University of the Arts London (or the relevant group company). Where the sender's signature indicates that the email is sent on behalf of UAL Short Courses Limited the following also applies: UAL Short Courses Limited is a company registered in England and Wales under company number 02361261. Registered Office: University of the Arts London, 272 High Holborn, London WC1V 7EY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eslucio at umd.edu Tue Jan 25 09:09:22 2022 From: eslucio at umd.edu (Emily S. Lucio) Date: Tue Jan 25 09:09:41 2022 Subject: [Athen] Maping technology and walking routes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you. This looks amazing. Respectfully, *Emily Singer Lucio She/Her/Hers* ADA/504 Coordinator University of Maryland, College Park Office of Diversity & Inclusion 3123 Susquehanna Hall 4200 Leigh Road College Park MD 20742 tel:301 405-2841 | fax:301 314-9992 eslucio@umd.edu On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 11:49 AM Carmen Fernandez wrote: > Hi Emily, > > I know this is not exactly what you are asking about but I recently > watched a demo of this app / navigation system called NaviLens > and it sounds brilliant. I'm sharing it > in case you find it useful. > > Kind Regards, > > Carmen > *?????????????????????* > > *Carmen Fernandez *she/her/hers > > Assistive Technology Coordinator > > IT Services > > *University of the Arts London* > > London College of Communication > > Elephant and Castle > > SE1 6SB > > London > > United Kingdom? > > *Mobile:* > > +44 (0)7809 551990 arts.ac.uk > > *?????????????????????* > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-list on > behalf of Emily S. Lucio > *Sent:* 25 January 2022 16:26 > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] Maping technology and walking routes > > Hi everyone. > > Our campus does not have names for our sidewalks/paths, which I am > assuming your campus does not as well. 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Hello, We use DSMS and everything works as intended and is quite customizable; the only downside to it that I see is the user interface design which is off-putting to new users and cumbersome to navigate. ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Russell Solowoniuk > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 9:35 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Disability Service Databases Hi everyone, We want to gather information on disability service databases like Clockwork, Symplicity (Accommodate), DSMS (Accessible Information Management), and any others people might be using. Any feedback, reviews etc. would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much, Russell Russell Solowoniuk AT Educational Assistant, Access and Disability Resources MacEwan University 7-164K, 10700-104 Ave. Edmonton, AB T5J 4S2 E: solowoniukr@macewan.ca T: 780-497-5826 F: 780-497-4018 macewan.ca [MacEwan Logo] This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential, personal, and/or privileged information. Please contact me immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. Please consider the environment before printing this email We acknowledge that the land on which we gather in Treaty Six Territory is the traditional gathering place for many Indigenous people. 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More information about Soundscape is at: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/product/soundscape/ Happy to share what all I find out. Alex Marositz Accessible Technology Initiative Coordinator Information Security and Compliance California State University, Dominguez Hills From: athen-list On Behalf Of Emily S. Lucio Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:26 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Maping technology and walking routes Hi everyone. Our campus does not have names for our sidewalks/paths, which I am assuming your campus does not as well. We are looking to up our game on our accessible map and would like to help map a walking route for persons who are Blind or low vision. We would then hope to be able to send the walking route to the person's phone. Has anyone done this? I would love to get your insights? Thanks Respectfully, Emily Singer Lucio She/Her/Hers ADA/504 Coordinator University of Maryland, College Park Office of Diversity & Inclusion 3123 Susquehanna Hall 4200 Leigh Road College Park MD 20742 tel:301 405-2841 | fax:301 314-9992 eslucio@umd.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smarositz at csudh.edu Wed Jan 26 10:47:22 2022 From: smarositz at csudh.edu (Stephen Marositz) Date: Wed Jan 26 10:47:35 2022 Subject: [Athen] Accessible Meeting Poll tool? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Monica I did a review (about 18 months ago I guess), on meeting polling solutions. In terms of accessibility, Schedule Once was very good. Zoom integration was a critical feature for us. Here's the link to the plugin. https://marketplace.zoom.us/apps/FYI6U0OOTpCZcnkrl7kdmg I hope this helps. Alex Marositz Accessible Technology Initiative Coordinator Information Security and Compliance California State University, Dominguez Hills From: athen-list On Behalf Of Monica Olsson Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 12:56 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Accessible Meeting Poll tool? Hi all! I'm aware that Doodle Poll doesn't provide a very accessible experience to AT users. I'm curious if anyone has identified a more accessible alternative? Has anyone used the "Find Time" add-on feature in Microsoft 365? [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass]Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate - Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu * o: 360-704-3922 * c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu * Twitter: @SBCTCWashington * Facebook: @WASBCTC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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More information about Soundscape is at: > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/product/soundscape/ > * > > > > Happy to share what all I find out. > > > > > > Alex Marositz > Accessible Technology Initiative Coordinator > Information Security and Compliance > California State University, Dominguez Hills > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Emily S. Lucio > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:26 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] Maping technology and walking routes > > > > Hi everyone. > > > > Our campus does not have names for our sidewalks/paths, which I am > assuming your campus does not as well. We are looking to up our game on > our accessible map and would like to help map a walking route for persons > who are Blind or low vision. We would then hope to be able to send the > walking route to the person's phone. Has anyone done this? I would love > to get your insights? > > > > Thanks > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > *Emily Singer Lucio She/Her/Hers* > > ADA/504 Coordinator > > University of Maryland, College Park > > Office of Diversity & Inclusion > > 3123 Susquehanna Hall > > 4200 Leigh Road > > College Park MD 20742 > > tel:301 <301> 405-2841 | fax:301 314-9992 > > eslucio@umd.edu > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhayman at olympic.edu Wed Jan 26 11:07:39 2022 From: dhayman at olympic.edu (Hayman, Douglass) Date: Wed Jan 26 11:08:04 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] - Re: Maping technology and walking routes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Alex, Thanks for sharing the link and information about Soundscape. That looks like some promising technology just as their Seeing AI is helpful too. Doug Hayman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Olympic College dhayman@olympic.edu (360) 475-7632 (currently working remotely and don?t have access to this phone) From: athen-list On Behalf Of Stephen Marositz Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2022 10:38 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [Athen] Maping technology and walking routes CAUTION: This email came from a non-OC system or external source. Beware of phishing and social engineering! Hello Emily I have recently reached out to the team at Microsoft working on Soundscape. I am a frequent user and think that Soundscape?s new ?recreational experiences? feature would be perfect for this since they could easily be customizable in the event there is construction, or for self-guided tours. More information about Soundscape is at: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/product/soundscape/ Happy to share what all I find out. Alex Marositz Accessible Technology Initiative Coordinator Information Security and Compliance California State University, Dominguez Hills From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Emily S. Lucio Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:26 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Maping technology and walking routes Hi everyone. Our campus does not have names for our sidewalks/paths, which I am assuming your campus does not as well. We are looking to up our game on our accessible map and would like to help map a walking route for persons who are Blind or low vision. We would then hope to be able to send the walking route to the person's phone. Has anyone done this? I would love to get your insights? Thanks Respectfully, Emily Singer Lucio She/Her/Hers ADA/504 Coordinator University of Maryland, College Park Office of Diversity & Inclusion 3123 Susquehanna Hall 4200 Leigh Road College Park MD 20742 tel:301 405-2841 | fax:301 314-9992 eslucio@umd.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From molsson at sbctc.edu Wed Jan 26 11:38:25 2022 From: molsson at sbctc.edu (Monica Olsson) Date: Wed Jan 26 11:38:32 2022 Subject: [Athen] Disability Service Databases In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Russell, I only have experience using AIM, Accessible Information Management. I believe that they are based out of Oregon. My experience has been that their platform is accessible and our employees and students using screen readers were able to use the system. I do not have an accessibility testing report to share or anything, though. [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass] Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington ? Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Russell Solowoniuk Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 9:35 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] Disability Service Databases Hi everyone, We want to gather information on disability service databases like Clockwork, Symplicity (Accommodate), DSMS (Accessible Information Management), and any others people might be using. Any feedback, reviews etc. would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much, Russell Russell Solowoniuk AT Educational Assistant, Access and Disability Resources MacEwan University 7-164K, 10700-104 Ave. Edmonton, AB T5J 4S2 E: solowoniukr@macewan.ca T: 780-497-5826 F: 780-497-4018 macewan.ca [MacEwan Logo] This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential, personal, and/or privileged information. Please contact me immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. Please consider the environment before printing this email We acknowledge that the land on which we gather in Treaty Six Territory is the traditional gathering place for many Indigenous people. 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Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington ? Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Stephen Marositz Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2022 10:47 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible Meeting Poll tool? Hello Monica I did a review (about 18 months ago I guess), on meeting polling solutions. In terms of accessibility, Schedule Once was very good. Zoom integration was a critical feature for us. Here?s the link to the plugin. https://marketplace.zoom.us/apps/FYI6U0OOTpCZcnkrl7kdmg I hope this helps. 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What other meeting poll solutions did you review/test? > > > > [image: Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass] > > *Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers)* > > Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator > > Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges > > *molsson@sbctc.edu * ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: > 206-914-7187 > > sbctc.edu ? Twitter: *@SBCTCWashington* > ? Facebook:* @WASBCTC > * > > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-list on > behalf of Stephen Marositz > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2022 10:47 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Accessible Meeting Poll tool? > > > Hello Monica > > > > I did a review (about 18 months ago I guess), on meeting polling > solutions. In terms of accessibility, Schedule Once was very good. Zoom > integration was a critical feature for us. Here?s the link to the plugin. > > https://marketplace.zoom.us/apps/FYI6U0OOTpCZcnkrl7kdmg > > > > I hope this helps. > > > > Alex Marositz > Accessible Technology Initiative Coordinator > Information Security and Compliance > California State University, Dominguez Hills > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Monica Olsson > *Sent:* Thursday, January 20, 2022 12:56 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] Accessible Meeting Poll tool? > > > > Hi all! > > > > I'm aware that Doodle Poll doesn't provide a very accessible experience to > AT users. I'm curious if anyone has identified a more accessible > alternative? Has anyone used the "Find Time" add-on feature in Microsoft > 365? > > > > > > [image: Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass]*Monica M. Olsson > (she/her/hers)* > > Policy Associate ? 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I do not have an accessibility testing report to share or anything, though. [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass]Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate - Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu * o: 360-704-3922 * c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu * Twitter: @SBCTCWashington * Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Russell Solowoniuk > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 9:35 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) > Subject: [Athen] Disability Service Databases Hi everyone, We want to gather information on disability service databases like Clockwork, Symplicity (Accommodate), DSMS (Accessible Information Management), and any others people might be using. Any feedback, reviews etc. would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much, Russell Russell Solowoniuk AT Educational Assistant, Access and Disability Resources MacEwan University 7-164K, 10700-104 Ave. Edmonton, AB T5J 4S2 E: solowoniukr@macewan.ca T: 780-497-5826 F: 780-497-4018 macewan.ca [MacEwan Logo] This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential, personal, and/or privileged information. Please contact me immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. Please consider the environment before printing this email We acknowledge that the land on which we gather in Treaty Six Territory is the traditional gathering place for many Indigenous people. 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But I'm a graduate student and started using Zotero last fall. It's not entirely accessible, but it got me close enough so that I could keep track of my sources, add some custom details as necessary, and generate citations. FWIW: I use NVDA, but I doubt the experience would differ all that much. Happy to provide any other insight that could be helpful. Also inclined to find a more accessible option to not have the mental gymnastics of remembering which unlabeled field corresponds with each piece of metadata. Thanks! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: Monday, January 24, 2022 5:30 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Reference/citation management tool and JAWS? Hello all, Does anyone have experience or knowledge as to what citation/reference management tools are compatible with JAWS? I have a faculty request about a doctoral student struggling with this issue and the need to use a reference/citation ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd Hello all, Does anyone have experience or knowledge as to what citation/reference management tools are compatible with JAWS? I have a faculty request about a doctoral student struggling with this issue and the need to use a reference/citation management tool, like EndNote and Zotero. The student is finding that JAWS is not providing the relevant information when attempting to use these reference/citation management tools. Any ideas or suggestions for a compatible solution? Am also open to any ideas as to what solutions have worked for other graduate students who are blind and needing to use such a reference management tool. Thanks in advance, Sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: