From Reem.Hamodi at ccaurora.edu Wed Mar 2 09:26:06 2022 From: Reem.Hamodi at ccaurora.edu (Hamodi, Reem) Date: Wed Mar 2 09:26:34 2022 Subject: [Athen] Recommended Apps Message-ID: <2544bdf0b7b14cb580e0e29ce2e1c4ef@ccaurora.edu> Hello, Do you have any recommended apps for android users that help to reduce distraction? Thank you! Reem Hamodi Office of Disability and Equity Disability and Equity Coordinator 16000 E. CentreTech Parkway, S202B Aurora, CO 80011 Phone: 303-340-7548 Fax: 303.340.7551 Email: Reem.hamodi@ccaurora.edu "Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experiences of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired and success achieved." -Helen Keller -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As a recap of some of the ideas shared and discussed: Free * Switching digits/fingers for button operation * Adjusted double click speed in settings * Mousekeys * Filter keys (bounce) delay (did not work on Windows 11 for some reason, but works fine on Windows 10) * Good forearm stabilization and base of support with chair and desk setup and positioning Paid * Many different trackball and other types of ergonomic or vertical mice * AMAneo Assistive Anti-Tremor Mouse Adapter * Dwell clicker 2 * Keyguard * Steady Mouse (free version is not recommended due to not being updated) * Possible use of wrist weight (check with provider first if any contraindications) I hope this list also helps someone else in the future! Sincerely, Robin From: athen-list On Behalf Of Dan Comden Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 4:33 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Computer mice for tremors CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Two simple and quick solutions for immediate access: 1. If the tremors are just on the dominant side, it's usually not too difficult to learn to use the other hand for most tasks, including mouse control. 2. Use the numeric keypad as a mouse. "MouseKeys" is what it was called in prior versions of windows, but typing the same into the Win start menu will also get you there. If a typical laptop is primary device, then and external keyboard or numeric keypad may be needed. If the tremoring makes hitting keys accurately difficult, a keyguard may also be needed. -*- Dan On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 2:14 PM Eckelberry, Robin > wrote: Hi ATHEN! I am working with a student who is R-hand dominant and would like to continue using R-hand to interact with the computer. It is a Windows 11. The R-hand has recently developed an intention tremor. Filter keys can assist to prevent accidental double-tapping of keys on the keyboard, but I am not sure what free options exist to prevent accidental double-tapping of a mouse. I see based on a Google search that some mice have been developed that have filters for tremor-induced actions, such as shaking the mouse or clicking more than intended. Has anyone had experience with these mice or other options? Thanks! Robin [Pikes Peak Community College Logo, links to website] Robin Eckelberry MS Access Specialist Accessibility Services office 719-502-3325 fax 719-502-3444 main office 719-502-3333 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 4800 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu Wed Mar 2 10:49:41 2022 From: Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu (Stager, Catherine) Date: Wed Mar 2 10:50:04 2022 Subject: [Athen] Recommended Apps In-Reply-To: <2544bdf0b7b14cb580e0e29ce2e1c4ef@ccaurora.edu> References: <2544bdf0b7b14cb580e0e29ce2e1c4ef@ccaurora.edu> Message-ID: <1af53c6ed3484daaa5502fa7b48fcf16@frontrange.edu> Many of my students love Forest - forestapp.cc. Some of our students put parental controls on themselves. Freedom app is a blocker too, and there are a number of similar ones. Also Any.do has a Focus mode. Most of the students like Forest best because you can trade in your virtual trees and they will plant actual trees. Bit.ly/usingyourtech is our short url for our Getting Started Guides - we have one for Forest. Best regards, Cath Catherine M. Stager Assistive Technology Specialist Catherine.Stager@frontrange.edu (720) 336-1245 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Hamodi, Reem Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 10:26 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Recommended Apps Hello, Do you have any recommended apps for android users that help to reduce distraction? Thank you! Reem Hamodi Office of Disability and Equity Disability and Equity Coordinator 16000 E. CentreTech Parkway, S202B Aurora, CO 80011 Phone: 303-340-7548 Fax: 303.340.7551 Email: Reem.hamodi@ccaurora.edu "Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experiences of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired and success achieved." -Helen Keller -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klatimer at udel.edu Wed Mar 2 11:23:37 2022 From: klatimer at udel.edu (Karen Latimer) Date: Wed Mar 2 11:24:39 2022 Subject: [Athen] AT solution for student with brain injury In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Co-writer is still a thing ( https://learningtools.donjohnston.com/product/cowriter/). Other word predictions include the Ginger suite, several google extensions (like Grammarly which actually does sentence prediction), Read and Write for Google, and others. It will depend on which features they are looking for. It might be worthwhile to try Read and Write for Google ( https://www.texthelp.com/products/read-and-write-education/) to see how the combination of tools benefits her (speech input, word prediction etc). There is a free 30 day trial on the extension. She might also find the text-to-speech and highlighting tools useful. I would also look at some different trackballs/mice that might be less fatiguing and faster. Typing with an on-screen keyboard and a mouse is going to be pretty tiring. The other question is if this is a physical barrier (i.e. accessing the keyboard) or a cognitive one (knowing what to write and how to write it). It might be a combo of both--which might lead you to other technologies... If you have access to an AT Act program near you--you may be able to find a specialist to help the student learn what works best for them ( https://www.at3center.net/stateprogram). Best of luck... Karen On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 7:20 PM Monica Olsson wrote: > Looks like* co:Writer* > > is still a thing. > > > > [image: Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass] > > *Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers)* > > Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator > > Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges > > *molsson@sbctc.edu * ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: > 206-914-7187 > > sbctc.edu ? Twitter: *@SBCTCWashington* > ? Facebook:* @WASBCTC > * > > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-list on > behalf of Dan Comden > *Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2022 3:46 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] AT solution for student with brain injury > > Hey Justin, > I'd look at a couple of different approaches for this student, esp if > fatigue is a factor. They can switch between methods to reduce fatigue that > could result from a single approach. > > Something like a head pointer, on-screen keyboard (with word prediction) > can give hands/arms a rest. > Combine that with something that allows for word prediction (is Co:Writer > still a thing?) in using standard input. > There's always switch input as a fallback but from your description, it > may not be needed. > > Based on your summary, I don't think pursuing speech input makes much > sense. If basic dictation in Windows is not working well, it's likely that > Dragon will be just as frustrating. Certainly going with a headset > microphone would be the first step. I keep seeing folks struggling with > speech trying to use the crappy built-in microphones on their laptops. > > I've been playing with LipSurf a bit -- it's a > really cool extension for the Chrome browser that works much better than > Dragon for browsing. Again, I'd recommend a headset over a desktop/laptop > microphone. Could be this is a solution for general web browsing but if > speech is difficult, it may not be worth spending a bunch of time pursuing. > > -*- Dan > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:46 AM Romack, Justin < > justinr@disability.tamu.edu> wrote: > > Howdy assistive technology aficionados! > > > > I?m working with a student who has damage to their brain stem as a result > of cancer and treatment. > > > > This student?s noted barrier is in writing. Their speech and dexterity / > motor control has been impacted. I can have a conversation with this > student and understand them reasonably well, but I do have concerns about > Dragon?s effectiveness. They did mention trying the built-in speech > recognition inside of MS Word and stated this solution was not useful. They > also have difficulty using a mouse or keyboard for extended periods of time. > > > > We will look at Dragon as an option, but I?m curious what other solutions > or strategies you all might suggest? > > > > Always grateful! > > > > Thanks, > > J > > > > > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > *Justin Romack* | Assistive Technology Coordinator > > Disability Resources | Texas A&M University > > 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 > > > > ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > *DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS *| One Division. One Mission. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > -- > -*- Dan Comden danc@uw.edu > Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/ > University of Washington UW Information Technology > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- *Karen Latimer, ATP* *Senior Assistive Technology Specialist* *Delaware Assistive Technology ?Initiative * *Center for Disabilities Studies* *461 Wyoming Rd. * *Newark, DE 19716* *302-831-7469* *www.udel.edu/cds * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From: athen-list On Behalf Of Kerri Hanson Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 12:52 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Services for blind/visually impaired students Good afternoon. We are expecting brother and sister for the Fall who are visually impaired. The father is asking if a guide can be provided to get them to each class, daily. Once in class, they will be fine, he stated. Have you experienced this request before? They have apps on their phones for help of location/building, they have walking canes, the sister is getting a guide dog but not sure when. Thank you in advance. Kerri Hanson, M.S. in School Counseling Coordinator, Student Accommodations [cid:image003.png@01D82E34.DB156860] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Disability Services, Technology Specialist TNecampus Accessibility Specialist Pellissippi State Technical Community College 865-694-6751 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Kerri Hanson Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 2:52 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [External] [Athen] Services for blind/visually impaired students CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Good afternoon. We are expecting brother and sister for the Fall who are visually impaired. The father is asking if a guide can be provided to get them to each class, daily. Once in class, they will be fine, he stated. Have you experienced this request before? They have apps on their phones for help of location/building, they have walking canes, the sister is getting a guide dog but not sure when. Thank you in advance. 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One of the things students learn is independence and if they need someone to walk them to class that is not independ . also i bet if you ask the students they might not want that themselves. they should get connected with the department of rehab as they can set them up with orientation training and living skills. they might be better off going to a blindness training center first to learn how to travel independently lucy Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 11:57 AM Susan Kelmer wrote: > The only thing we would do is arrange an Orientation and Mobility > Specialist who would work with them for a few weeks until they are ready to > do it on their own. Getting them to all their classes would not be the > responsibility of the DSS office. > > > > > > *Susan Kelmer * > > Alternate Format Production Program Manager > > Disability Services > > Division of Student Affairs > > *T* 303 735 4836 > > *www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices > * > > > > > > [image: cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] > > > > *Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this > message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please > notify the sender immediately and delete this message. * > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Kerri Hanson > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 2, 2022 12:52 PM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [Athen] Services for blind/visually impaired students > > > > Good afternoon. > > We are expecting brother and sister for the Fall who are visually > impaired. The father is asking if a guide can be provided to get them to > each class, daily. > > Once in class, they will be fine, he stated. > > > > Have you experienced this request before? They have apps on their phones > for help of location/building, they have walking canes, the sister is > getting a guide dog but not sure when. > > > > Thank you in advance. > > > > Kerri Hanson, M.S. in School Counseling > > Coordinator, Student Accommodations > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 8916 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Deibel, PhD Library Accessibility Specialist Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky From: athen-list On Behalf Of Eckelberry, Robin Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 12:28 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Computer mice for tremors Hi Doug, Bevi, and Dan, Thank you each very much for your suggestions! The student and I came up with a good low-tech plan for now, with exposure to other options as needed in the future if the condition progresses. As a recap of some of the ideas shared and discussed: Free * Switching digits/fingers for button operation * Adjusted double click speed in settings * Mousekeys * Filter keys (bounce) delay (did not work on Windows 11 for some reason, but works fine on Windows 10) * Good forearm stabilization and base of support with chair and desk setup and positioning Paid * Many different trackball and other types of ergonomic or vertical mice * AMAneo Assistive Anti-Tremor Mouse Adapter * Dwell clicker 2 * Keyguard * Steady Mouse (free version is not recommended due to not being updated) * Possible use of wrist weight (check with provider first if any contraindications) I hope this list also helps someone else in the future! Sincerely, Robin From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Dan Comden Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 4:33 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Computer mice for tremors CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Two simple and quick solutions for immediate access: 1. If the tremors are just on the dominant side, it's usually not too difficult to learn to use the other hand for most tasks, including mouse control. 2. Use the numeric keypad as a mouse. "MouseKeys" is what it was called in prior versions of windows, but typing the same into the Win start menu will also get you there. If a typical laptop is primary device, then and external keyboard or numeric keypad may be needed. If the tremoring makes hitting keys accurately difficult, a keyguard may also be needed. -*- Dan On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 2:14 PM Eckelberry, Robin > wrote: Hi ATHEN! I am working with a student who is R-hand dominant and would like to continue using R-hand to interact with the computer. It is a Windows 11. The R-hand has recently developed an intention tremor. Filter keys can assist to prevent accidental double-tapping of keys on the keyboard, but I am not sure what free options exist to prevent accidental double-tapping of a mouse. I see based on a Google search that some mice have been developed that have filters for tremor-induced actions, such as shaking the mouse or clicking more than intended. Has anyone had experience with these mice or other options? Thanks! Robin [Pikes Peak Community College Logo, links to website] Robin Eckelberry MS Access Specialist Accessibility Services office 719-502-3325 fax 719-502-3444 main office 719-502-3333 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message from your system. Thank you for your cooperation and assistance. _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- -*- Dan Comden danc@uw.edu Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/ University of Washington UW Information Technology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 4800 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From kndeibel at metageekery.org Wed Mar 2 13:45:50 2022 From: kndeibel at metageekery.org (Katherine Deibel) Date: Wed Mar 2 13:46:25 2022 Subject: [Athen] AT solution for student with brain injury In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I?ve been following this and wishing there was more interest in alternative text entry ideas like there were in the mid/late 2000s. I?m not sure how viable it is nowadays, but I wonder if an entry method like Dasher would be of benefit? Katherine ?Kate? Deibel, PhD Library Accessibility Specialist Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky From: athen-list On Behalf Of Karen Latimer Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 2:24 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] AT solution for student with brain injury Co-writer is still a thing (https://learningtools.donjohnston.com/product/cowriter/). Other word predictions include the Ginger suite, several google extensions (like Grammarly which actually does sentence prediction), Read and Write for Google, and others. It will depend on which features they are looking for. It might be worthwhile to try Read and Write for Google (https://www.texthelp.com/products/read-and-write-education/) to see how the combination of tools benefits her (speech input, word prediction etc). There is a free 30 day trial on the extension. She might also find the text-to-speech and highlighting tools useful. I would also look at some different trackballs/mice that might be less fatiguing and faster. Typing with an on-screen keyboard and a mouse is going to be pretty tiring. The other question is if this is a physical barrier (i.e. accessing the keyboard) or a cognitive one (knowing what to write and how to write it). It might be a combo of both--which might lead you to other technologies... If you have access to an AT Act program near you--you may be able to find a specialist to help the student learn what works best for them (https://www.at3center.net/stateprogram). Best of luck... Karen On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 7:20 PM Monica Olsson > wrote: Looks like co:Writer is still a thing. [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass]Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington ? Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Dan Comden > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 3:46 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] AT solution for student with brain injury Hey Justin, I'd look at a couple of different approaches for this student, esp if fatigue is a factor. They can switch between methods to reduce fatigue that could result from a single approach. Something like a head pointer, on-screen keyboard (with word prediction) can give hands/arms a rest. Combine that with something that allows for word prediction (is Co:Writer still a thing?) in using standard input. There's always switch input as a fallback but from your description, it may not be needed. Based on your summary, I don't think pursuing speech input makes much sense. If basic dictation in Windows is not working well, it's likely that Dragon will be just as frustrating. Certainly going with a headset microphone would be the first step. I keep seeing folks struggling with speech trying to use the crappy built-in microphones on their laptops. I've been playing with LipSurf a bit -- it's a really cool extension for the Chrome browser that works much better than Dragon for browsing. Again, I'd recommend a headset over a desktop/laptop microphone. Could be this is a solution for general web browsing but if speech is difficult, it may not be worth spending a bunch of time pursuing. -*- Dan On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:46 AM Romack, Justin > wrote: Howdy assistive technology aficionados! I?m working with a student who has damage to their brain stem as a result of cancer and treatment. This student?s noted barrier is in writing. Their speech and dexterity / motor control has been impacted. I can have a conversation with this student and understand them reasonably well, but I do have concerns about Dragon?s effectiveness. They did mention trying the built-in speech recognition inside of MS Word and stated this solution was not useful. They also have difficulty using a mouse or keyboard for extended periods of time. We will look at Dragon as an option, but I?m curious what other solutions or strategies you all might suggest? Always grateful! Thanks, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. 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I?m not > sure how viable it is nowadays, but I wonder if an entry method like > Dasher would be of benefit? > > > > Katherine ?Kate? Deibel, PhD > > Library Accessibility Specialist > > Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky > GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Karen Latimer > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 2, 2022 2:24 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] AT solution for student with brain injury > > > > Co-writer is still a thing ( > https://learningtools.donjohnston.com/product/cowriter/). Other word > predictions include the Ginger suite, several google extensions (like > Grammarly which actually does sentence prediction), Read and Write for > Google, and others. It will depend on which features they are looking for. > It might be worthwhile to try Read and Write for Google ( > https://www.texthelp.com/products/read-and-write-education/) to see how > the combination of tools benefits her (speech input, word prediction etc). > There is a free 30 day trial on the extension. She might also find the > text-to-speech and highlighting tools useful. I would also look at some > different trackballs/mice that might be less fatiguing and faster. Typing > with an on-screen keyboard and a mouse is going to be pretty tiring. > > > > The other question is if this is a physical barrier (i.e. accessing the > keyboard) or a cognitive one (knowing what to write and how to write it). > It might be a combo of both--which might lead you to other technologies... > > > > If you have access to an AT Act program near you--you may be able to find > a specialist to help the student learn what works best for them ( > https://www.at3center.net/stateprogram). > > > > Best of luck... > > Karen > > > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 7:20 PM Monica Olsson wrote: > > Looks like* co:Writer* > > is still a thing. > > > > > > [image: Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass]*Monica M. Olsson > (she/her/hers)* > > Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator > > Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges > > *molsson@sbctc.edu * ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: > 206-914-7187 > > sbctc.edu ? Twitter: *@SBCTCWashington* > ? Facebook:* @WASBCTC > * > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* athen-list on > behalf of Dan Comden > *Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2022 3:46 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] AT solution for student with brain injury > > > > Hey Justin, > > I'd look at a couple of different approaches for this student, esp if > fatigue is a factor. They can switch between methods to reduce fatigue that > could result from a single approach. > > > > Something like a head pointer, on-screen keyboard (with word prediction) > can give hands/arms a rest. > > Combine that with something that allows for word prediction (is Co:Writer > still a thing?) in using standard input. > > There's always switch input as a fallback but from your description, it > may not be needed. > > > > Based on your summary, I don't think pursuing speech input makes much > sense. If basic dictation in Windows is not working well, it's likely that > Dragon will be just as frustrating. Certainly going with a headset > microphone would be the first step. I keep seeing folks struggling with > speech trying to use the crappy built-in microphones on their laptops. > > > > I've been playing with LipSurf a bit -- it's a > really cool extension for the Chrome browser that works much better than > Dragon for browsing. Again, I'd recommend a headset over a desktop/laptop > microphone. Could be this is a solution for general web browsing but if > speech is difficult, it may not be worth spending a bunch of time pursuing. > > > > -*- Dan > > > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:46 AM Romack, Justin < > justinr@disability.tamu.edu> wrote: > > Howdy assistive technology aficionados! > > > > I?m working with a student who has damage to their brain stem as a result > of cancer and treatment. > > > > This student?s noted barrier is in writing. Their speech and dexterity / > motor control has been impacted. I can have a conversation with this > student and understand them reasonably well, but I do have concerns about > Dragon?s effectiveness. They did mention trying the built-in speech > recognition inside of MS Word and stated this solution was not useful. They > also have difficulty using a mouse or keyboard for extended periods of time. > > > > We will look at Dragon as an option, but I?m curious what other solutions > or strategies you all might suggest? > > > > Always grateful! > > > > Thanks, > > J > > > > > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > *Justin Romack* | Assistive Technology Coordinator > > Disability Resources | Texas A&M University > > 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 > > > > ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > *DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS *| One Division. One Mission. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > -- > > -*- Dan Comden danc@uw.edu > > Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/ > > University of Washington UW Information Technology > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > > -- > > *Karen Latimer, ATP* > > *Senior Assistive Technology Specialist* > > *Delaware Assistive Technology * > > *?* > > *Initiative * > > *Center for Disabilities Studies* > > *461 Wyoming Rd. * > > *Newark, DE 19716* > > *302-831-7469* > > *www.udel.edu/cds * > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Wink Harner Assistive Technology Consulting and Training Alternative Text Production Portland OR. foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My questions are whether anyone else has run into this and how it's been handled, and also if anyone has thoughts on the expiration in general for students who would like to have the textbook as reference in the future? Thanks for your thoughts- Alice Schedule a training session Alice D. Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P., C.P.A.C.C. Disability Services, Technology Specialist TNecampus Accessibility Specialist Pellissippi State Technical Community College 865-694-6751 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kerscher at montana.com Thu Mar 3 06:53:27 2022 From: kerscher at montana.com (kerscher@montana.com) Date: Thu Mar 3 06:54:25 2022 Subject: [Athen] epub textbooks and expiration dates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007101d82f0e$7cfd1cc0$76f75640$@montana.com> Hello, Of course, if the title is available from Bookshare, the student could grab it from there. The Bookshare titles never expire. Best George From: athen-list On Behalf Of Wershing, Alice D. Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2022 7:30 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] epub textbooks and expiration dates Hello everyone, I recently had an issue with an epub that blind student has been using for a course where the course spanned two semesters. The epub purchased expired after 180 days. Sighted students purchase a printed copy once, so our department paid for the renewal fee to continue access to the epub. My questions are whether anyone else has run into this and how it's been handled, and also if anyone has thoughts on the expiration in general for students who would like to have the textbook as reference in the future? Thanks for your thoughts- Alice Schedule a training session Alice D. Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P., C.P.A.C.C. 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Alice ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of kerscher@montana.com Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2022 9:53 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [External] Re: [Athen] epub textbooks and expiration dates CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hello, Of course, if the title is available from Bookshare, the student could grab it from there. The Bookshare titles never expire. Best George From: athen-list On Behalf Of Wershing, Alice D. Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2022 7:30 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) Subject: [Athen] epub textbooks and expiration dates Hello everyone, I recently had an issue with an epub that blind student has been using for a course where the course spanned two semesters. The epub purchased expired after 180 days. Sighted students purchase a printed copy once, so our department paid for the renewal fee to continue access to the epub. My questions are whether anyone else has run into this and how it's been handled, and also if anyone has thoughts on the expiration in general for students who would like to have the textbook as reference in the future? Thanks for your thoughts- Alice Schedule a training session Alice D. Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P., C.P.A.C.C. Disability Services, Technology Specialist TNecampus Accessibility Specialist Pellissippi State Technical Community College 865-694-6751 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adwershing at pstcc.edu Thu Mar 3 09:00:12 2022 From: adwershing at pstcc.edu (Wershing, Alice D.) Date: Thu Mar 3 09:00:25 2022 Subject: [Athen] [External] Re: AT solution for student with brain injury In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello- Have you considered varying the student's positioning to reduce fatigue? It wasn't mentioned in the discussion. It may be that the student can work longer from a reclined position or with ergonomic arm rests, with the trackball also anchored on an angle. I have had individuals work from a reclined position with remote access, like keyboard, trackball etc. If a Physical Therapist consult is an option, that may help in determining optimal positioning. Within Windows, there is a keyboard setting for text suggestions. It is under Typing: show text suggestions as I type. This doesn't offer the range of options that Cowriter does, but it could be a start. Additionally, using Mouse Keys may be an option for mouse use to explore. I have used an added number pad and placed that on a angled surface. It would be good to try a range of options. Alice Schedule a training session Alice D. Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P., C.P.A.C.C. Disability Services, Technology Specialist TNecampus Accessibility Specialist Pellissippi State Technical Community College 865-694-6751 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of foreigntype@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 5:27 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [External] Re: [Athen] AT solution for student with brain injury CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Katherine et al ATHENites There are some pretty useful alternatives for the Dasher app. Check out this link for more info: https://alternativeto.net/software/dasher/ Wink Harner On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 1:47 PM Katherine Deibel > wrote: I?ve been following this and wishing there was more interest in alternative text entry ideas like there were in the mid/late 2000s. I?m not sure how viable it is nowadays, but I wonder if an entry method like Dasher would be of benefit? Katherine ?Kate? Deibel, PhD Library Accessibility Specialist Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Karen Latimer Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 2:24 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] AT solution for student with brain injury Co-writer is still a thing (https://learningtools.donjohnston.com/product/cowriter/). Other word predictions include the Ginger suite, several google extensions (like Grammarly which actually does sentence prediction), Read and Write for Google, and others. It will depend on which features they are looking for. It might be worthwhile to try Read and Write for Google (https://www.texthelp.com/products/read-and-write-education/) to see how the combination of tools benefits her (speech input, word prediction etc). There is a free 30 day trial on the extension. She might also find the text-to-speech and highlighting tools useful. I would also look at some different trackballs/mice that might be less fatiguing and faster. Typing with an on-screen keyboard and a mouse is going to be pretty tiring. The other question is if this is a physical barrier (i.e. accessing the keyboard) or a cognitive one (knowing what to write and how to write it). It might be a combo of both--which might lead you to other technologies... If you have access to an AT Act program near you--you may be able to find a specialist to help the student learn what works best for them (https://www.at3center.net/stateprogram). Best of luck... Karen On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 7:20 PM Monica Olsson > wrote: Looks like co:Writer is still a thing. [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass]Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington ? Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Dan Comden > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 3:46 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] AT solution for student with brain injury Hey Justin, I'd look at a couple of different approaches for this student, esp if fatigue is a factor. They can switch between methods to reduce fatigue that could result from a single approach. Something like a head pointer, on-screen keyboard (with word prediction) can give hands/arms a rest. Combine that with something that allows for word prediction (is Co:Writer still a thing?) in using standard input. There's always switch input as a fallback but from your description, it may not be needed. Based on your summary, I don't think pursuing speech input makes much sense. If basic dictation in Windows is not working well, it's likely that Dragon will be just as frustrating. Certainly going with a headset microphone would be the first step. I keep seeing folks struggling with speech trying to use the crappy built-in microphones on their laptops. I've been playing with LipSurf a bit -- it's a really cool extension for the Chrome browser that works much better than Dragon for browsing. Again, I'd recommend a headset over a desktop/laptop microphone. Could be this is a solution for general web browsing but if speech is difficult, it may not be worth spending a bunch of time pursuing. -*- Dan On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:46 AM Romack, Justin > wrote: Howdy assistive technology aficionados! I?m working with a student who has damage to their brain stem as a result of cancer and treatment. This student?s noted barrier is in writing. Their speech and dexterity / motor control has been impacted. I can have a conversation with this student and understand them reasonably well, but I do have concerns about Dragon?s effectiveness. They did mention trying the built-in speech recognition inside of MS Word and stated this solution was not useful. They also have difficulty using a mouse or keyboard for extended periods of time. We will look at Dragon as an option, but I?m curious what other solutions or strategies you all might suggest? Always grateful! Thanks, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. 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In addition there is Slack or reddit and often in the classroom and meetings collaboration is done in realtime with Office 365 or google docs. So much software, and it is so, so confusing! I am also thinking that too much real-time collaboration is simply not inclusive for anyone with a print disability. But how to get this message across without sounding like a whiner. Thoughts? --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From molsson at sbctc.edu Thu Mar 3 15:05:16 2022 From: molsson at sbctc.edu (Monica Olsson) Date: Thu Mar 3 15:05:49 2022 Subject: [Athen] airtable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I found this conversation about accessibility conformance on Airtable's community forum. The conversation is between someone named Bill French who I believe works for the company and Michael Cyr, who is very active with the Educate IT Accessibility group. Better get your bowl of popcorn out, heh. Here is a notable quote from the conversation by Michael from February 2020: "I tested the basic airtable DB table view/edit screen. I compared it to the WCAG2.1 level AA standard, section 2.1, Keyboard Accessibility, using the NVDA screen reader. It?s completely inaccessible, that is,keyboard-only control does not provide corresponding screen-reader accessible text that matches what is visually displayed. I test a lot of applications. Total lack of keyboard and screen reader support is unusual these days. I also tested the read-only view of the table from a shareable link. Same lack of support. I?ve also received a response from airtable. They do not have a conformance report. I?m asking for clarification about what they DO know about the accessibility of their DB product." [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass] Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington ? Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Lucy GRECO Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 9:00 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] airtable thanks somuch this helps immensely Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 1:27 AM Debbie Krahmer > wrote: A conference I attended in March or April 2021 used Air tables for the schedule, and I couldn't access it with NVDA beyond the very first two items listed, and even then it didn't read all the information (I got titles of the session but not days or times). Search didn't work, scroll didn't work, tabbing didn't work. The conference sent me a spreadsheet instead. Thanks, D. On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 8:37 PM Steve Green > wrote: One of our clients had several Airtables embedded in their website when we tested it in September 2020. We reported non-conformances with the following WCAG success criteria: 1.1.1 ? non-text content 1.3.2 ? meaningful sequence 2.1.1 ? keyboard navigation 2.4.3 ? focus order 2.4.4 ? link purpose in context 1.4.3 ? colour contrast 1.4.4 ? resize text 2.4.7 ? focus visible I don?t know if this is representative of all Airtable output because we did not have access to the authoring environment to create content of our own. The client has since removed all the Airtables from their website rather than attempting to fix them, so I suspect that remediation was not possible. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Lucy GRECO Sent: 03 February 2022 23:17 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] airtable hello: does any one have information about airtable accessibility the quick search on the web sowed the sails pick i want the facts is it or is it not accessible or is it accessible with lots of work thanks. i need a fast turnaround on this one i i appreciate any help thanks lucy Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Outlook-Title_ SBC.png Type: image/png Size: 22672 bytes Desc: Outlook-Title_ SBC.png URL: From hkramer at ahead.org Fri Mar 4 11:52:25 2022 From: hkramer at ahead.org (Howard Kramer) Date: Fri Mar 4 11:53:20 2022 Subject: [Athen] W3C skills testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here are the 2 exams I mentioned for WCAG skills testing. Ironically, they are not very accessible. I had to convert them to PDF from their Canvas format. On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 7:22 PM Steven Bianco wrote: > I would love to see them too. If you provide them as a QTI from Canvas that > would be great as well. > > Steven Bianco, MA > > Florida SouthWestern State College > Office of Information Technology > Coordinator, Accessibility and LMS Administration > > Phone: (239) 432-6774 or X16774 > Email: Steven.Bianco@FSW.edu > > Follow the Florida State EIT Consortium on twitter and LinkedIn > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-list on > behalf of Howard Kramer > *Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2022 8:56:56 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing > > > *CAUTION: **Please Be Aware - This Email Originated Outside of FSW * > > Hi Monica, > > Not yet, I need to work on converting it from a Canvas exam to a PDF. > > -Howard > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-list on > behalf of Monica Olsson > *Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2022 5:06 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing > > Hi Howard, > > Did you send out your course with two exams that you mentioned in your > previous email? Thanks, > Monica > > > > [image: Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass] > > *Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers)* > > Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator > > Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges > > *molsson@sbctc.edu * ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: > 206-914-7187 > > sbctc.edu ? Twitter: *@SBCTCWashington* > ? Facebook:* @WASBCTC > * > > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-list on > behalf of Howard Kramer > *Sent:* Thursday, February 24, 2022 1:41 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing > > Hi Lucy, > > I have a course with 2 exams - one test is on semantics and structure and > the second, specifically tests students on their ability to match > accessibility issues to WCAG guidelines. I can share them with you if you > like. > > -Howard > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:14 PM Lucy GRECO wrote: > > hello: > i was wondering if anyone knows of a good test for seeing how well > someone knows the w3c. I want to use this test when training and or > hiring some staff. i need to see if they can properly identify what w3c > criteria is what and how to classify a problem. > > > > > Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist > > Campus IT Experience > Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | > https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces > > We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. 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Steven Bianco, MA Florida SouthWestern State College Office of Information Technology Coordinator, Accessibility and LMS Administration Phone: (239) 432-6774 or X16774 Email: Steven.Bianco@FSW.edu Follow the Florida State EIT Consortium on twitter and LinkedIn ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Howard Kramer Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 8:56:56 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing CAUTION: Please Be Aware - This Email Originated Outside of FSW Hi Monica, Not yet, I need to work on converting it from a Canvas exam to a PDF. -Howard ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Monica Olsson Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 5:06 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing Hi Howard, Did you send out your course with two exams that you mentioned in your previous email? Thanks, Monica [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass] Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington ? Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Howard Kramer Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 1:41 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing Hi Lucy, I have a course with 2 exams - one test is on semantics and structure and the second, specifically tests students on their ability to match accessibility issues to WCAG guidelines. I can share them with you if you like. -Howard On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:14 PM Lucy GRECO > wrote: hello: i was wondering if anyone knows of a good test for seeing how well someone knows the w3c. I want to use this test when training and or hiring some staff. i need to see if they can properly identify what w3c criteria is what and how to classify a problem. 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If you provide them as a QTI from Canvas that > would be great as well. > > Steven Bianco, MA > > Florida SouthWestern State College > Office of Information Technology > Coordinator, Accessibility and LMS Administration > > Phone: (239) 432-6774 or X16774 > Email: Steven.Bianco@FSW.edu > > Follow the Florida State EIT Consortium on twitter and LinkedIn > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-list on > behalf of Howard Kramer > *Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2022 8:56:56 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing > > > *CAUTION: **Please Be Aware - This Email Originated Outside of FSW * > > Hi Monica, > > Not yet, I need to work on converting it from a Canvas exam to a PDF. > > -Howard > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-list on > behalf of Monica Olsson > *Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2022 5:06 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing > > Hi Howard, > > Did you send out your course with two exams that you mentioned in your > previous email? Thanks, > Monica > > > > [image: Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass] > > *Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers)* > > Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator > > Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges > > *molsson@sbctc.edu * ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: > 206-914-7187 > > sbctc.edu ? Twitter: *@SBCTCWashington* > ? Facebook:* @WASBCTC > * > > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-list on > behalf of Howard Kramer > *Sent:* Thursday, February 24, 2022 1:41 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing > > Hi Lucy, > > I have a course with 2 exams - one test is on semantics and structure and > the second, specifically tests students on their ability to match > accessibility issues to WCAG guidelines. I can share them with you if you > like. > > -Howard > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:14 PM Lucy GRECO wrote: > > hello: > i was wondering if anyone knows of a good test for seeing how well > someone knows the w3c. I want to use this test when training and or > hiring some staff. i need to see if they can properly identify what w3c > criteria is what and how to classify a problem. > > > > > Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist > > Campus IT Experience > Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | > https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces > > We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > -- > Regards, > Howard > > Howard Kramer > Conference Coordinator > Accessing Higher Ground > 303-492-8672 > cell: 720-351-8668 > > Sign up to access the recordings from the *2020 Accessing Higher > Ground Conference > * and > for AHG 2021 'Watch Parties > .' > > > Sign up to our mailing list to receive announcements > . > > > > Complete program information and registration is open for AHEAD's full > line-up of Spring 2021 webinars > . > > > > Not yet a member of AHEAD? *We welcome you to join AHEAD now. > * > > > > [image: Florida SouthWestern State College] > > Please note: Due to Florida's broad open records law, most written > communication to or from College employees is public record, available to > the public and the media upon request. 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Steven Bianco, MA Florida SouthWestern State College Office of Information Technology Coordinator, Accessibility and LMS Administration Phone: (239) 432-6774 or X16774 Email: Steven.Bianco@FSW.edu Follow the Florida State EIT Consortium on twitter and LinkedIn ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Howard Kramer Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 3:22:45 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing CAUTION: Please Be Aware - This Email Originated Outside of FSW What's a QTI? -Howard ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Steven Bianco Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 7:21 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing I would love to see them too. If you provide them as a QTI from Canvas that would be great as well. Steven Bianco, MA Florida SouthWestern State College Office of Information Technology Coordinator, Accessibility and LMS Administration Phone: (239) 432-6774 or X16774 Email: Steven.Bianco@FSW.edu Follow the Florida State EIT Consortium on twitter and LinkedIn ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Howard Kramer Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 8:56:56 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing CAUTION: Please Be Aware - This Email Originated Outside of FSW Hi Monica, Not yet, I need to work on converting it from a Canvas exam to a PDF. -Howard ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Monica Olsson Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 5:06 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing Hi Howard, Did you send out your course with two exams that you mentioned in your previous email? Thanks, Monica [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass] Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington ? Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Howard Kramer Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 1:41 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] W3C skills testing Hi Lucy, I have a course with 2 exams - one test is on semantics and structure and the second, specifically tests students on their ability to match accessibility issues to WCAG guidelines. I can share them with you if you like. -Howard On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:14 PM Lucy GRECO > wrote: hello: i was wondering if anyone knows of a good test for seeing how well someone knows the w3c. I want to use this test when training and or hiring some staff. i need to see if they can properly identify what w3c criteria is what and how to classify a problem. 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How do we change media perceptions of disability so that public perception is more accepting of disabled people? Join us in conversation with Dominick, Kristen, and AJ as we explore how to make these changes. We will provide ASL interpretation and CART captioning for this event, which participants will be able to join by video or phone. Please send questions to Nancy Yang at nyang@awnnetwork.org. Speakers Dominick Evans is a trans queer crip director/writer, consultant, Twitch streamer, and dad. They have a BFA in Film. Dominick?s work delves into inclusion in media, sex education for Disabled/LGBTQIA youth, marriage equality, institutional bias, and reproductive rights. In 2014, he founded #FilmDis, a Twitter chat about Disability in media. Dominick has spoken around the world. He recently directed the music video "Spaces" from his home in Michigan and works in Hollywood, consulting studios, to make the industry more inclusive. Dominick spends a lot of time streaming on Twitch ? exploring accessibility and access. With their partner, Ashtyn, they release an annual study into disability on television. *Kristen Lopez* is currently the TV Editor of IndieWire. She has been writing on popular culture, with an emphasis on disability representation, for 15 years now with her work published at Variety, MTV, Roger Ebert, and Forbes. In her free time she enjoys classic film and podcasting with her friends over at Ticklish Business. *AJ Link* (he/him) is openly autistic. He received his JD from The George Washington University Law School. AJ is currently pursuing an LL.M in Space Law at the University of Mississippi School of Law, while also serving as the inaugural director of The Center for Air and Space Law Task Force on Inclusion, Diversity, and Equity in Aerospace. He works as a research director for the Jus Ad Astra project and serves as president and executive director of the National Disabled Law Students Association, which he co-founded. AJ was awarded the Michael Dillon Cooley Memorial Award by his graduating class for his compassion and humanity in serving his fellow students and was inducted into the Susan M. Daniels Disability Mentoring Hall of Fame. *Moderator*: Lydia X. Z. Brown, AWN Director of Policy, Advocacy, and External Affairs Please note that after registering on EventBrite, you will also receive instructions for receiving a Zoom link. AWN will host this event on Zoom as well as livestream to Facebook. [Image: Event banner shows a colorful keyboard. There are three people. First is Dominick, a masculine appearing person wearing gold wire rim glasses and a blue, black, and gray Argyle long-sleeve shirt. He sits in his wheelchair. Second is Kristen, a white woman with brown hair in a red, checked jacket. Third is AJ, a black male wearing a backwards black hat and red sweater. He is sitting down next to other folks and speaking with expressive hand gestures. Text says, Changing Media Perceptions of Disability, 16 Mar 2022 at 7pm Eastern / 4pm Pacific. The corner shows the AWN logo - a large "a" with a dragonfly on it, and the words awnnetwork.org .] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lissner.2 at osu.edu Fri Mar 4 18:48:27 2022 From: lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, L. 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The labels for the10 small circles are DISABILTY, RACE, GENDER, EHNICITY, SEX & SEXUALITY, RELIGION, REGION, CLASS & CASTE, INCOME & WEALTH, AND "MANY OTHER IDENTITIES"] Presented Virtually on April 11 & 12 2022 Preview the agenda Featuring two free public lectures John Wodatch* will present the Ken Campbell Lecture on Disability Law & Policy ?So Much Has Changed, So Much is the Same? Reflections as we ramp up to the 50th anniversary of the passage of Section 504 (Signed September 26th 2023) Emily Ladau** will present the Ethel Louise Armstrong Lecture on Disability Culture ???????ABOUT THE FEATURED SPEAKERS *John Wodatch is a disability rights attorney, with over 50 years of experience. Forty-two of those years where in the Federal government, where he authored the government?s comprehensive disability rights regulations and created and led the Department of Justice?s office in charge of enforcing them. He was the chief author of the first Federal regulations implementing section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973; one of the drafters of the Americans with Disabilities Act and chief Autor of the ADA?s implementing regulations, and was on the U.S. delegation to the United Nations that helped develop the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities. In 2010 he was honored with the Presidential Distinguished Rank Award for exceptional achievement in his career.. He received a B.A. from Trinity College, an M.P.A. from Harvard University, and a J.D. from the Georgetown University Law School. **Emily Ladau is a passionate disability rights activist, writer, storyteller, and digital communications consultant whose career began at the age of 10, when she appeared on several episodes of Sesame Street to educate children about her life with a physical disability. Her writing has been published in outlets including The New York Times, SELF, Salon, Vice, and HuffPost and her first book, Demystifying Disability, was published by Ten Speed Press, an imprint of Penguin Random House, in September 2021. Emily has spoken before numerous audiences, from the U.S. Department of Education to the United Nations. Central to all of her work is a focus on and harnessing the power of storytelling as a tool for people to become engaged in disability and social justice issues. Multiple Perspectives on Access, Inclusion & Disability is hosted by the Office of Institutional Equity at the Ohio State University and supported by the generosity of Margaret Stanton and the Ethel Louise Armstrong Endowment Fund. As a modern land grant university serving the wider community as a catalyst for positive change and a springboard for collaborations is central to our mission. 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Matching the tool to how the student already works is the key - hard to start using something that changes how you do things. Best regards, Cath Catherine M. Stager Assistive Technology Specialist From: athen-list On Behalf Of Eckelberry, Robin Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2022 10:44 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Need Recommendations Hi Reem, My students like any Pomodoro timer app. Android, iOS, web-based, MS Store each have something like that. Focus on work for a certain amount of time, say, 15 min. Then take a movement/fun break for 5 min, then resume for another 15 min, and so on. Sincerely, Robin From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Hamodi, Reem Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2022 10:28 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Need Recommendations Hello, Do any of you have any recommended apps for reducing distraction and time management? Thank you! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From canale at umbc.edu Wed Mar 9 08:01:23 2022 From: canale at umbc.edu (Michael Canale) Date: Wed Mar 9 08:01:53 2022 Subject: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 194, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call upon Texthelp of this change in policy is ridiculous. I decided to no longer support or endorse Texthelp products. Instead, I will endorse Natural Reader. I know many of you use them, however, we should not support a company that doesn't support us. > Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu *Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kevin.Price at ucf.edu Wed Mar 9 09:24:35 2022 From: Kevin.Price at ucf.edu (Kevin Price) Date: Wed Mar 9 09:25:06 2022 Subject: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 194, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michael, I understand you wanting to switch from TextHelp R&W to Natural Reader but I don't agree with your approach. Companies must survive and that means sometimes they have to charge for their products and cannot always give them out for free, especially if they are trying to improve their product. In a capitalistic society like ours we shouldn't be offended if a company changes their pricing. You have every right to switch products, of course, but to be so offended that everyone in the post-secondary field needs to pull their support, I don't agree with. Kevin Price, MSW Assistant Director of Accessible Technology Student Accessibility Services University of Central Florida 4000 Central Florida Blvd Ferrell Commons, Room 155B Orlando, FL 32816-3661 Office: 407.823.2371 kevin.price@ucf.edu sas.sdes.ucf.edu Please note: Florida has a very broad open records law (F.S. 119). Emails may be subject to public disclosure. SAS acknowledges the value of expressing identity-first (disabled person) and person first (person with disability) language in our communication. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Michael Canale Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:01 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 194, Issue 7 For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call upon Texthelp of this change in policy is ridiculous. I decided to no longer support or endorse Texthelp products. Instead, I will endorse Natural Reader. I know many of you use them, however, we should not support a company that doesn't support us. [https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=11o9m2BMLp7AfTfXgiaWAVxdtMUz_EEES&revid=0Bw1zQ57rlXp1WXZoYjNZNkwxeFlRbHc2QkorU0J1eXdYa0RnPQ] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From canale at umbc.edu Wed Mar 9 09:25:12 2022 From: canale at umbc.edu (Michael Canale) Date: Wed Mar 9 09:26:05 2022 Subject: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: They recently decided without notification that they will only support K-12 educators with support and free demo licenses. I explained that I have used the software to demonstrate their product and encourage students and parents to consider using it. Now with this new policy, I am unable to demo their product without purchasing my own license. If I worked for a K-12 they would continue to provide me a free account. Why would I purchase a license to generate business for them? In addition, they changed their minimum number of licenses that prohibit most small to medium size Universities to utilize all they pay for. Whereas K-12 has an entire district. It's all about money and has nothing to do with supporting students it's a real shame. On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:01 PM Romack, Justin wrote: > Howdy! > > > > Glad to get your message and hear your perspective! > > > > Because I feel out of the loop? What Texthelp policy are you referring to > and how do they demonstrate they don?t care about postsecondary > institutions? > > > > We?re up for renewal and the quote has drastically increased in price. I > have several options to explore in responding, but I wanted more context on > how others have approached changes with Texthelp (and also clarifying if > what you?re referring to is related to the concern I have). > > > > Hoping you?re well, > > J > > > > > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > *Justin Romack* | Assistive Technology Coordinator > > Disability Resources | Texas A&M University > > 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 > > > > ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > *DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS *| One Division. One Mission. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Michael Canale > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 9, 2022 10:01 AM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 194, Issue 7 > > > > For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to > show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp > decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call > all colleagues to call ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > > This Message Is From an External Sender > > This message came from outside your organization. > > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > > For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to > show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. > > > > Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. > I call all colleagues to call upon Texthelp of this change in policy is > ridiculous. I decided to no longer support or endorse Texthelp products. > Instead, I will endorse Natural Reader. > > > > I know many of you use them, however, we should not support a company that > doesn't support us. > > > > > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > > Office of Student Disability Services > > University of Maryland, Baltimore County > > 225 Math/Psychology Building > > > > Desk: 410-455-6358 > > Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) > > VP: 443-410-4773 > > Email: canale@umbc.edu > > Web: sds.umbc.edu > > > > > *Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if > you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter* > > > > > > -- Michael Canale Assistant Director, SDS Coordinator Deaf and Hard of Hearing Services, Sensory Impairment, and ASD Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu *Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please review the scholarship application requirements on the scholarship information page. Deadline for submission is April 8, 2022. *Note that all applications must include the following:* ? Nomination from ATHEN or AHEAD member. ? Completed student application. Teresa Haven, Ph.D., was a long-time ATHEN contributor and member of the Executive Council. She was a passionate advocate for student equity and diversity in higher education. In remembrance of her dedication and service to students, the ATHEN membership voted unanimously to create a scholarship in her memory. Thank you to the Executive Council and to those who have volunteered to participate on the 2022 Teresa Haven Scholarship Selection Committee. Have a good day! Dawn Hunziker ATHEN President -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lissner.2 at osu.edu Tue Mar 8 19:38:46 2022 From: lissner.2 at osu.edu (Lissner, L. 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We gave up on TextHelp R&W Gold years ago after experiencing excessive difficulty rolling out and maintaining that software in our labs. On top of that, the overwhelming majority of students in my experience want a simple TTS tool and ignore all the additional features wrapped into the reading product. So ... we stopped purchasing it. There was zero negative feedback from students. It shines in a supported environment like K-12. Not so much in higher ed. A student's need to read effectively doesn't change once they complete college. In my interactions with students over decades, they show no inclination to purchase expensive TTS tools on their own after they graduate. I think we serve students more effectively by showing them how to use free and inexpensive reading software that fit their needs both in school and after they complete their educational programs. Let TextHelp concentrate on K-12 and we can ignore their products until they come up with a better solution for higher education. -*- Dan On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 9:26 AM Michael Canale wrote: > They recently decided without notification that they will only support > K-12 educators with support and free demo licenses. I explained that I have > used the software to demonstrate their product and encourage students and > parents to consider using it. Now with this new policy, I am unable to demo > their product without purchasing my own license. If I worked for a K-12 > they would continue to provide me a free account. Why would I purchase a > license to generate business for them? > > In addition, they changed their minimum number of licenses that prohibit > most small to medium size Universities to utilize all they pay for. Whereas > K-12 has an entire district. It's all about money and has nothing to do > with supporting students it's a real shame. > > > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:01 PM Romack, Justin < > justinr@disability.tamu.edu> wrote: > >> Howdy! >> >> >> >> Glad to get your message and hear your perspective! >> >> >> >> Because I feel out of the loop? What Texthelp policy are you referring to >> and how do they demonstrate they don?t care about postsecondary >> institutions? >> >> >> >> We?re up for renewal and the quote has drastically increased in price. I >> have several options to explore in responding, but I wanted more context on >> how others have approached changes with Texthelp (and also clarifying if >> what you?re referring to is related to the concern I have). >> >> >> >> Hoping you?re well, >> >> J >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> >> >> >> *Justin Romack* | Assistive Technology Coordinator >> >> Disability Resources | Texas A&M University >> >> 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 >> >> >> >> ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu >> >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> >> *DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS *| One Division. One Mission. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* athen-list *On >> Behalf Of *Michael Canale >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 9, 2022 10:01 AM >> *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu >> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 194, Issue 7 >> >> >> >> For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order >> to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp >> decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call >> all colleagues to call ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart >> >> This Message Is From an External Sender >> >> This message came from outside your organization. >> >> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd >> >> For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order >> to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. >> >> >> >> Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to >> support. I call all colleagues to call upon Texthelp of this change in >> policy is ridiculous. I decided to no longer support or endorse Texthelp >> products. Instead, I will endorse Natural Reader. >> >> >> >> I know many of you use them, however, we should not support a >> company that doesn't support us. >> >> >> >> >> >> [image: Image removed by sender.] >> >> Office of Student Disability Services >> >> University of Maryland, Baltimore County >> >> 225 Math/Psychology Building >> >> >> >> Desk: 410-455-6358 >> >> Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) >> >> VP: 443-410-4773 >> >> Email: canale@umbc.edu >> >> Web: sds.umbc.edu >> >> >> >> >> *Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if >> you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter* >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Michael Canale > Assistant Director, SDS > Coordinator Deaf and Hard of Hearing Services, > Sensory Impairment, and ASD > > Office of Student Disability Services > University of Maryland, Baltimore County > 225 Math/Psychology Building > > Desk: 410-455-6358 > Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) > VP: 443-410-4773 > Email: canale@umbc.edu > Web: sds.umbc.edu > > *Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if > you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter* > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- -*- Dan Comden danc@uw.edu Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/ University of Washington UW Information Technology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Liza Liza Eldred Assistive Technologist II MacEwan University 780-497-5826 From: athen-list on behalf of Dan Comden Date: Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:42 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary EXTERNAL: Use caution. I agree with Michael on this. TextHelp makes some decent products but in my experience they repeatedly demonstrate either ignorance or apathy about the needs of higher education. This is demonstrated by their license plans for their products, in particular EquatIO which could be a powerful tool for alt text shops at many schools, but can't be utilized at many places due to the company's inflexible license options. It is less expensive to pay for hundreds of student worker hours to convert a couple of math courses every year than to purchase a license for EquatIO for even a moderately sized campus. We gave up on TextHelp R&W Gold years ago after experiencing excessive difficulty rolling out and maintaining that software in our labs. On top of that, the overwhelming majority of students in my experience want a simple TTS tool and ignore all the additional features wrapped into the reading product. So ... we stopped purchasing it. There was zero negative feedback from students. It shines in a supported environment like K-12. Not so much in higher ed. A student's need to read effectively doesn't change once they complete college. In my interactions with students over decades, they show no inclination to purchase expensive TTS tools on their own after they graduate. I think we serve students more effectively by showing them how to use free and inexpensive reading software that fit their needs both in school and after they complete their educational programs. Let TextHelp concentrate on K-12 and we can ignore their products until they come up with a better solution for higher education. -*- Dan On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 9:26 AM Michael Canale > wrote: They recently decided without notification that they will only support K-12 educators with support and free demo licenses. I explained that I have used the software to demonstrate their product and encourage students and parents to consider using it. Now with this new policy, I am unable to demo their product without purchasing my own license. If I worked for a K-12 they would continue to provide me a free account. Why would I purchase a license to generate business for them? In addition, they changed their minimum number of licenses that prohibit most small to medium size Universities to utilize all they pay for. Whereas K-12 has an entire district. It's all about money and has nothing to do with supporting students it's a real shame. On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:01 PM Romack, Justin > wrote: Howdy! Glad to get your message and hear your perspective! Because I feel out of the loop? What Texthelp policy are you referring to and how do they demonstrate they don?t care about postsecondary institutions? We?re up for renewal and the quote has drastically increased in price. I have several options to explore in responding, but I wanted more context on how others have approached changes with Texthelp (and also clarifying if what you?re referring to is related to the concern I have). Hoping you?re well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Michael Canale Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 10:01 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 194, Issue 7 For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call upon Texthelp of this change in policy is ridiculous. I decided to no longer support or endorse Texthelp products. Instead, I will endorse Natural Reader. I know many of you use them, however, we should not support a company that doesn't support us. [Image removed by sender.] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter -- Michael Canale Assistant Director, SDS Coordinator Deaf and Hard of Hearing Services, Sensory Impairment, and ASD [https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=11o9m2BMLp7AfTfXgiaWAVxdtMUz_EEES&revid=0Bw1zQ57rlXp1WXZoYjNZNkwxeFlRbHc2QkorU0J1eXdYa0RnPQ] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- -*- Dan Comden danc@uw.edu Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/ University of Washington UW Information Technology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ~WRD3775.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 851 bytes Desc: ~WRD3775.jpg URL: From Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu Thu Mar 10 14:35:05 2022 From: Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu (Susan Kelmer) Date: Thu Mar 10 14:35:29 2022 Subject: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kurzweil allows you to highlight, copy, and then past in a word document, easy-peasy. Is that what you are talking about? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Liza Eldred Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 3:31 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary Hi, The one thing that students really like about Read & Write is the ability to highlight and extract. >From my experience, I have not found a free or inexpensive tool that both has text-to-speech and the highlight and collect feature (for both Windows and Mac). Does anyone know of a program other than RW that can do this? If so, please let me know. It would be much appreciated! Thanks and stay well. Liza Liza Eldred Assistive Technologist II MacEwan University 780-497-5826 From: athen-list > on behalf of Dan Comden > Date: Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:42 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary EXTERNAL: Use caution. I agree with Michael on this. TextHelp makes some decent products but in my experience they repeatedly demonstrate either ignorance or apathy about the needs of higher education. This is demonstrated by their license plans for their products, in particular EquatIO which could be a powerful tool for alt text shops at many schools, but can't be utilized at many places due to the company's inflexible license options. It is less expensive to pay for hundreds of student worker hours to convert a couple of math courses every year than to purchase a license for EquatIO for even a moderately sized campus. We gave up on TextHelp R&W Gold years ago after experiencing excessive difficulty rolling out and maintaining that software in our labs. On top of that, the overwhelming majority of students in my experience want a simple TTS tool and ignore all the additional features wrapped into the reading product. So ... we stopped purchasing it. There was zero negative feedback from students. It shines in a supported environment like K-12. Not so much in higher ed. A student's need to read effectively doesn't change once they complete college. In my interactions with students over decades, they show no inclination to purchase expensive TTS tools on their own after they graduate. I think we serve students more effectively by showing them how to use free and inexpensive reading software that fit their needs both in school and after they complete their educational programs. Let TextHelp concentrate on K-12 and we can ignore their products until they come up with a better solution for higher education. -*- Dan On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 9:26 AM Michael Canale > wrote: They recently decided without notification that they will only support K-12 educators with support and free demo licenses. I explained that I have used the software to demonstrate their product and encourage students and parents to consider using it. Now with this new policy, I am unable to demo their product without purchasing my own license. If I worked for a K-12 they would continue to provide me a free account. Why would I purchase a license to generate business for them? In addition, they changed their minimum number of licenses that prohibit most small to medium size Universities to utilize all they pay for. Whereas K-12 has an entire district. It's all about money and has nothing to do with supporting students it's a real shame. On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:01 PM Romack, Justin > wrote: Howdy! Glad to get your message and hear your perspective! Because I feel out of the loop... What Texthelp policy are you referring to and how do they demonstrate they don't care about postsecondary institutions? We're up for renewal and the quote has drastically increased in price. I have several options to explore in responding, but I wanted more context on how others have approached changes with Texthelp (and also clarifying if what you're referring to is related to the concern I have). Hoping you're well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Michael Canale Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 10:01 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 194, Issue 7 For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call upon Texthelp of this change in policy is ridiculous. I decided to no longer support or endorse Texthelp products. Instead, I will endorse Natural Reader. I know many of you use them, however, we should not support a company that doesn't support us. [Image removed by sender.] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter -- Michael Canale Assistant Director, SDS Coordinator Deaf and Hard of Hearing Services, Sensory Impairment, and ASD [https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=11o9m2BMLp7AfTfXgiaWAVxdtMUz_EEES&revid=0Bw1zQ57rlXp1WXZoYjNZNkwxeFlRbHc2QkorU0J1eXdYa0RnPQ] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- -*- Dan Comden danc@uw.edu Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/ University of Washington UW Information Technology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 8916 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 359 bytes Desc: image003.jpg URL: From CherniwchanL at macewan.ca Thu Mar 10 14:55:14 2022 From: CherniwchanL at macewan.ca (Liza Eldred) Date: Thu Mar 10 14:55:31 2022 Subject: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, similar. It?s nice that RW will automatically push the highlighted content to Word instead of having to manually copy/paste into a document. Also wondering if there is any free software or low cost that will do this? Thanks for the information. Liza From: athen-list on behalf of Susan Kelmer Date: Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 3:36 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary EXTERNAL: Use caution. Kurzweil allows you to highlight, copy, and then past in a word document, easy-peasy. Is that what you are talking about? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D83494.69639E10] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Liza Eldred Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 3:31 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary Hi, The one thing that students really like about Read & Write is the ability to highlight and extract. >From my experience, I have not found a free or inexpensive tool that both has text-to-speech and the highlight and collect feature (for both Windows and Mac). Does anyone know of a program other than RW that can do this? If so, please let me know. It would be much appreciated! Thanks and stay well. Liza Liza Eldred Assistive Technologist II MacEwan University 780-497-5826 From: athen-list > on behalf of Dan Comden > Date: Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:42 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary EXTERNAL: Use caution. I agree with Michael on this. TextHelp makes some decent products but in my experience they repeatedly demonstrate either ignorance or apathy about the needs of higher education. This is demonstrated by their license plans for their products, in particular EquatIO which could be a powerful tool for alt text shops at many schools, but can't be utilized at many places due to the company's inflexible license options. It is less expensive to pay for hundreds of student worker hours to convert a couple of math courses every year than to purchase a license for EquatIO for even a moderately sized campus. We gave up on TextHelp R&W Gold years ago after experiencing excessive difficulty rolling out and maintaining that software in our labs. On top of that, the overwhelming majority of students in my experience want a simple TTS tool and ignore all the additional features wrapped into the reading product. So ... we stopped purchasing it. There was zero negative feedback from students. It shines in a supported environment like K-12. Not so much in higher ed. A student's need to read effectively doesn't change once they complete college. In my interactions with students over decades, they show no inclination to purchase expensive TTS tools on their own after they graduate. I think we serve students more effectively by showing them how to use free and inexpensive reading software that fit their needs both in school and after they complete their educational programs. Let TextHelp concentrate on K-12 and we can ignore their products until they come up with a better solution for higher education. -*- Dan On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 9:26 AM Michael Canale > wrote: They recently decided without notification that they will only support K-12 educators with support and free demo licenses. I explained that I have used the software to demonstrate their product and encourage students and parents to consider using it. Now with this new policy, I am unable to demo their product without purchasing my own license. If I worked for a K-12 they would continue to provide me a free account. Why would I purchase a license to generate business for them? In addition, they changed their minimum number of licenses that prohibit most small to medium size Universities to utilize all they pay for. Whereas K-12 has an entire district. It's all about money and has nothing to do with supporting students it's a real shame. On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:01 PM Romack, Justin > wrote: Howdy! Glad to get your message and hear your perspective! Because I feel out of the loop? What Texthelp policy are you referring to and how do they demonstrate they don?t care about postsecondary institutions? We?re up for renewal and the quote has drastically increased in price. I have several options to explore in responding, but I wanted more context on how others have approached changes with Texthelp (and also clarifying if what you?re referring to is related to the concern I have). Hoping you?re well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Michael Canale Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 10:01 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 194, Issue 7 For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call upon Texthelp of this change in policy is ridiculous. I decided to no longer support or endorse Texthelp products. Instead, I will endorse Natural Reader. I know many of you use them, however, we should not support a company that doesn't support us. [Image removed by sender.] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter -- Michael Canale Assistant Director, SDS Coordinator Deaf and Hard of Hearing Services, Sensory Impairment, and ASD [https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=11o9m2BMLp7AfTfXgiaWAVxdtMUz_EEES&revid=0Bw1zQ57rlXp1WXZoYjNZNkwxeFlRbHc2QkorU0J1eXdYa0RnPQ] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- -*- Dan Comden danc@uw.edu Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/ University of Washington UW Information Technology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 8930 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 373 bytes Desc: image003.jpg URL: From hadir at uw.edu Thu Mar 10 15:06:37 2022 From: hadir at uw.edu (Hadi Rangin) Date: Thu Mar 10 15:08:30 2022 Subject: [Athen] Conformance versus Functional testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Monica, It is a very good but very difficult question to answer. We probably need a full webinar on this topic. While accessibility conformance testing is valuable in identifying general and more technical accessibility issues, it does not guarantee that an application is functionally accessible for users. For example, say that there is a navigation area with 50 options in it that is technically accessible according to the conformance testing as it has the correct keyboard controls, labelling, screen reader announcements, etc. While again it is accessible by the standards, it is not reasonable to expect users to tab 50 times to get past this navigation area. As far as how to incorporate them in your accessibility policy and procedures, it depends on where you set your accessibility bar. Yes, indeed accessibility conformance can improve the accessibility of the application, but if you are aiming for real accessibility improvement, then I think you should aim to do functional accessibility testing as well, for which you would need the necessary resources. You will need someone who is familiar with the application, can communicate your accessibility findings with the vendors, engage them in a real collaboration to fix the issues and guide them through functional accessibility feedback. If there is enough interest in this topic, I will be glad to offer a webinar to go into it in more detail. Thanks, Hadi From: athen-list On Behalf Of Monica Olsson Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 9:33 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Conformance versus Functional testing Hi everyone, I participate in a group within WA state's community and technical college system called the Committee for Accessible Technology Oversight, or CATO. Yesterday, at our monthly meeting, members discussed accessibility conformance testing versus functional testing. We expressed some frustration in parsing out these two testing methods and how each method should be implemented into Accessible Technology policies and procedures, such as IT procurement. How do you define and differentiate each testing method? Do you have recommendations how best to use each method strategically and in a scalable way? Thanks in advance for your input! [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass]Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate - Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu * o: 360-704-3922 * c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu * Twitter: @SBCTCWashington * Facebook: @WASBCTC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The other other one I checked out a while ago was Weava, which is freemium and works with web and PDF content but is not at all accessible. ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Susan Kelmer Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 2:35 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary Kurzweil allows you to highlight, copy, and then past in a word document, easy-peasy. Is that what you are talking about? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Liza Eldred Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 3:31 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary Hi, The one thing that students really like about Read & Write is the ability to highlight and extract. >From my experience, I have not found a free or inexpensive tool that both has text-to-speech and the highlight and collect feature (for both Windows and Mac). Does anyone know of a program other than RW that can do this? If so, please let me know. It would be much appreciated! Thanks and stay well. Liza Liza Eldred Assistive Technologist II MacEwan University 780-497-5826 From: athen-list > on behalf of Dan Comden > Date: Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:42 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary EXTERNAL: Use caution. I agree with Michael on this. TextHelp makes some decent products but in my experience they repeatedly demonstrate either ignorance or apathy about the needs of higher education. This is demonstrated by their license plans for their products, in particular EquatIO which could be a powerful tool for alt text shops at many schools, but can't be utilized at many places due to the company's inflexible license options. It is less expensive to pay for hundreds of student worker hours to convert a couple of math courses every year than to purchase a license for EquatIO for even a moderately sized campus. We gave up on TextHelp R&W Gold years ago after experiencing excessive difficulty rolling out and maintaining that software in our labs. On top of that, the overwhelming majority of students in my experience want a simple TTS tool and ignore all the additional features wrapped into the reading product. So ... we stopped purchasing it. There was zero negative feedback from students. It shines in a supported environment like K-12. Not so much in higher ed. A student's need to read effectively doesn't change once they complete college. In my interactions with students over decades, they show no inclination to purchase expensive TTS tools on their own after they graduate. I think we serve students more effectively by showing them how to use free and inexpensive reading software that fit their needs both in school and after they complete their educational programs. Let TextHelp concentrate on K-12 and we can ignore their products until they come up with a better solution for higher education. -*- Dan On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 9:26 AM Michael Canale > wrote: They recently decided without notification that they will only support K-12 educators with support and free demo licenses. I explained that I have used the software to demonstrate their product and encourage students and parents to consider using it. Now with this new policy, I am unable to demo their product without purchasing my own license. If I worked for a K-12 they would continue to provide me a free account. Why would I purchase a license to generate business for them? In addition, they changed their minimum number of licenses that prohibit most small to medium size Universities to utilize all they pay for. Whereas K-12 has an entire district. It's all about money and has nothing to do with supporting students it's a real shame. On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:01 PM Romack, Justin > wrote: Howdy! Glad to get your message and hear your perspective! Because I feel out of the loop? What Texthelp policy are you referring to and how do they demonstrate they don?t care about postsecondary institutions? We?re up for renewal and the quote has drastically increased in price. I have several options to explore in responding, but I wanted more context on how others have approached changes with Texthelp (and also clarifying if what you?re referring to is related to the concern I have). Hoping you?re well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Michael Canale Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 10:01 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 194, Issue 7 For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call upon Texthelp of this change in policy is ridiculous. I decided to no longer support or endorse Texthelp products. Instead, I will endorse Natural Reader. I know many of you use them, however, we should not support a company that doesn't support us. [Image removed by sender.] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter -- Michael Canale Assistant Director, SDS Coordinator Deaf and Hard of Hearing Services, Sensory Impairment, and ASD [https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=11o9m2BMLp7AfTfXgiaWAVxdtMUz_EEES&revid=0Bw1zQ57rlXp1WXZoYjNZNkwxeFlRbHc2QkorU0J1eXdYa0RnPQ] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. 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Normally, the Read Aloud function sends it to the TTS engine and highlights as it sends the text. It seems you want to have an additional function to say for example, hold down a key while the Read Aloud is going and that would select this text for the clipboard. I am just trying to describe what is wanted to the Thorium developers. So other user interface designs are welcome. Best George From: athen-list On Behalf Of Liza Eldred Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 3:31 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary Hi, The one thing that students really like about Read & Write is the ability to highlight and extract. >From my experience, I have not found a free or inexpensive tool that both has text-to-speech and the highlight and collect feature (for both Windows and Mac). Does anyone know of a program other than RW that can do this? If so, please let me know. It would be much appreciated! Thanks and stay well. Liza Liza Eldred Assistive Technologist II MacEwan University 780-497-5826 From: athen-list > on behalf of Dan Comden > Date: Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:42 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary EXTERNAL: Use caution. I agree with Michael on this. TextHelp makes some decent products but in my experience they repeatedly demonstrate either ignorance or apathy about the needs of higher education. This is demonstrated by their license plans for their products, in particular EquatIO which could be a powerful tool for alt text shops at many schools, but can't be utilized at many places due to the company's inflexible license options. It is less expensive to pay for hundreds of student worker hours to convert a couple of math courses every year than to purchase a license for EquatIO for even a moderately sized campus. We gave up on TextHelp R&W Gold years ago after experiencing excessive difficulty rolling out and maintaining that software in our labs. On top of that, the overwhelming majority of students in my experience want a simple TTS tool and ignore all the additional features wrapped into the reading product. So ... we stopped purchasing it. There was zero negative feedback from students. It shines in a supported environment like K-12. Not so much in higher ed. A student's need to read effectively doesn't change once they complete college. In my interactions with students over decades, they show no inclination to purchase expensive TTS tools on their own after they graduate. I think we serve students more effectively by showing them how to use free and inexpensive reading software that fit their needs both in school and after they complete their educational programs. Let TextHelp concentrate on K-12 and we can ignore their products until they come up with a better solution for higher education. -*- Dan On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 9:26 AM Michael Canale > wrote: They recently decided without notification that they will only support K-12 educators with support and free demo licenses. I explained that I have used the software to demonstrate their product and encourage students and parents to consider using it. Now with this new policy, I am unable to demo their product without purchasing my own license. If I worked for a K-12 they would continue to provide me a free account. Why would I purchase a license to generate business for them? In addition, they changed their minimum number of licenses that prohibit most small to medium size Universities to utilize all they pay for. Whereas K-12 has an entire district. It's all about money and has nothing to do with supporting students it's a real shame. On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:01 PM Romack, Justin > wrote: Howdy! Glad to get your message and hear your perspective! Because I feel out of the loop. What Texthelp policy are you referring to and how do they demonstrate they don't care about postsecondary institutions? We're up for renewal and the quote has drastically increased in price. I have several options to explore in responding, but I wanted more context on how others have approached changes with Texthelp (and also clarifying if what you're referring to is related to the concern I have). Hoping you're well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Michael Canale Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 10:01 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 194, Issue 7 For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call upon Texthelp of this change in policy is ridiculous. I decided to no longer support or endorse Texthelp products. Instead, I will endorse Natural Reader. I know many of you use them, however, we should not support a company that doesn't support us. Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter -- Michael Canale Assistant Director, SDS Coordinator Deaf and Hard of Hearing Services, Sensory Impairment, and ASD Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- -*- Dan Comden danc@uw.edu Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/ University of Washington UW Information Technology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 851 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lgreco at berkeley.edu Thu Mar 10 15:58:31 2022 From: lgreco at berkeley.edu (Lucy GRECO) Date: Thu Mar 10 15:59:38 2022 Subject: [Athen] hours one person needs to work on a web site Message-ID: Hello we are working with a department that is trying to get one person to maintain and create all of their web sites. This person currently has 32 websites they are responsible for and keeps being given more to work on. the person does not have an extensive background in accessibility and tends to make the same mistakes on every page over and over again. mostly dealing with keyboard navigation. We are trying to convince the department that having one person do all this work is not appropriate and or sustainable. Does anyone know if there is any research on time that should be spent on one web site or page for security and maintenance. i.e. patching and updating we can come up with the accessibility case just by pointing at the problems but the fact is the department does not understand how unsustainable this is and if its coming from us they think we have a agenda and are not trying to help thanks lucy Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adwershing at pstcc.edu Fri Mar 11 05:53:55 2022 From: adwershing at pstcc.edu (Wershing, Alice D.) Date: Fri Mar 11 05:54:35 2022 Subject: [Athen] [External] Re: Texthelp no longer support Post secondary In-Reply-To: <006301d834d7$854193b0$8fc4bb10$@montana.com> References: <006301d834d7$854193b0$8fc4bb10$@montana.com> Message-ID: Kurzweil does allow you to highlight text and then collect the highlights. We are using TextAid in Brightspace, and it also allows highlights to be collected and extracted. I have tried doing something similar with Microsoft Word. It requires multiple steps which may not work for all students, but it can work. I've also used the Comments tool and then with several steps, selected all the Comments, but again it takes multiple steps to complete. If anyone finds another way to do this that has less steps, please share! Alice Schedule a training session Alice D. Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P., C.P.A.C.C. Disability Services, Technology Specialist TNecampus Accessibility Specialist Pellissippi State Technical Community College 865-694-6751 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of kerscher@montana.com Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 6:35 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [External] Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hello All, I can pass on a request to the Thorium developer, and Thorium is free for Windows, Mac, and linux. It has TTS and highlighting as it reads. Also supports reading of Math, when it is MathML. Using a screen reader you can copy and paste right now, but I think you want something a non-screen reader person can use. If I understand you, you want to Highlight text and have the TTS read out what is being selected. Then you want to copy this to the clipboard and paste it into a Word document or any application that can accept text from the clipboard. Is this correct? Normally, the Read Aloud function sends it to the TTS engine and highlights as it sends the text. It seems you want to have an additional function to say for example, hold down a key while the Read Aloud is going and that would select this text for the clipboard. I am just trying to describe what is wanted to the Thorium developers. So other user interface designs are welcome. Best George From: athen-list On Behalf Of Liza Eldred Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 3:31 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary Hi, The one thing that students really like about Read & Write is the ability to highlight and extract. >From my experience, I have not found a free or inexpensive tool that both has text-to-speech and the highlight and collect feature (for both Windows and Mac). Does anyone know of a program other than RW that can do this? If so, please let me know. It would be much appreciated! Thanks and stay well. Liza Liza Eldred Assistive Technologist II MacEwan University 780-497-5826 From: athen-list > on behalf of Dan Comden > Date: Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:42 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary EXTERNAL: Use caution. I agree with Michael on this. TextHelp makes some decent products but in my experience they repeatedly demonstrate either ignorance or apathy about the needs of higher education. This is demonstrated by their license plans for their products, in particular EquatIO which could be a powerful tool for alt text shops at many schools, but can't be utilized at many places due to the company's inflexible license options. It is less expensive to pay for hundreds of student worker hours to convert a couple of math courses every year than to purchase a license for EquatIO for even a moderately sized campus. We gave up on TextHelp R&W Gold years ago after experiencing excessive difficulty rolling out and maintaining that software in our labs. On top of that, the overwhelming majority of students in my experience want a simple TTS tool and ignore all the additional features wrapped into the reading product. So ... we stopped purchasing it. There was zero negative feedback from students. It shines in a supported environment like K-12. Not so much in higher ed. A student's need to read effectively doesn't change once they complete college. In my interactions with students over decades, they show no inclination to purchase expensive TTS tools on their own after they graduate. I think we serve students more effectively by showing them how to use free and inexpensive reading software that fit their needs both in school and after they complete their educational programs. Let TextHelp concentrate on K-12 and we can ignore their products until they come up with a better solution for higher education. -*- Dan On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 9:26 AM Michael Canale > wrote: They recently decided without notification that they will only support K-12 educators with support and free demo licenses. I explained that I have used the software to demonstrate their product and encourage students and parents to consider using it. Now with this new policy, I am unable to demo their product without purchasing my own license. If I worked for a K-12 they would continue to provide me a free account. Why would I purchase a license to generate business for them? In addition, they changed their minimum number of licenses that prohibit most small to medium size Universities to utilize all they pay for. Whereas K-12 has an entire district. It's all about money and has nothing to do with supporting students it's a real shame. On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:01 PM Romack, Justin > wrote: Howdy! Glad to get your message and hear your perspective! Because I feel out of the loop? What Texthelp policy are you referring to and how do they demonstrate they don?t care about postsecondary institutions? We?re up for renewal and the quote has drastically increased in price. I have several options to explore in responding, but I wanted more context on how others have approached changes with Texthelp (and also clarifying if what you?re referring to is related to the concern I have). Hoping you?re well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Michael Canale Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 10:01 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 194, Issue 7 For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call upon Texthelp of this change in policy is ridiculous. I decided to no longer support or endorse Texthelp products. Instead, I will endorse Natural Reader. I know many of you use them, however, we should not support a company that doesn't support us. [Image removed by sender.] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter -- Michael Canale Assistant Director, SDS Coordinator Deaf and Hard of Hearing Services, Sensory Impairment, and ASD [https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=11o9m2BMLp7AfTfXgiaWAVxdtMUz_EEES&revid=0Bw1zQ57rlXp1WXZoYjNZNkwxeFlRbHc2QkorU0J1eXdYa0RnPQ] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- -*- Dan Comden danc@uw.edu Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/ University of Washington UW Information Technology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 851 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Fri Mar 11 06:43:09 2022 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Fri Mar 11 06:43:18 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Texthelp no longer support Post secondary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not exactly, Susan. R&W has a collect highlights feature. You can use it to highlight content as you go on webpages, Word or PDF documents. When you are done, you can collect all of those highlights in various ways depending on the need. For example, you can use a color code to highlight, then collect only the color you want for that purpose such as test notes or assignments. You can also collect the colors in various orders such as yellow for major information, blue for items to review for clarity, etc. R&W puts these highlighted sections into a new Word document for you. Also, the highlighting tool can be used to create a vocabulary list. If you highlight words as you go, when you are done you can have R&W pull those words into a Word document. It creates a table with the word in the first column, the definition from the R&W dictionary in the second column, a picture from the Picture Dictionary (if available) in the third column, and a place for your own notes in the fourth column. These are good ways to make study guides. However, I question how much students really use the tool. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:35 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Kurzweil allows you to highlight, copy, and then past in a word document, easy-peasy. Is that what you are talking about? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D83522.D8ADD220] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Liza Eldred Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 3:31 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary Hi, The one thing that students really like about Read & Write is the ability to highlight and extract. >From my experience, I have not found a free or inexpensive tool that both has text-to-speech and the highlight and collect feature (for both Windows and Mac). Does anyone know of a program other than RW that can do this? If so, please let me know. It would be much appreciated! Thanks and stay well. Liza Liza Eldred Assistive Technologist II MacEwan University 780-497-5826 From: athen-list > on behalf of Dan Comden > Date: Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:42 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary EXTERNAL: Use caution. I agree with Michael on this. TextHelp makes some decent products but in my experience they repeatedly demonstrate either ignorance or apathy about the needs of higher education. This is demonstrated by their license plans for their products, in particular EquatIO which could be a powerful tool for alt text shops at many schools, but can't be utilized at many places due to the company's inflexible license options. It is less expensive to pay for hundreds of student worker hours to convert a couple of math courses every year than to purchase a license for EquatIO for even a moderately sized campus. We gave up on TextHelp R&W Gold years ago after experiencing excessive difficulty rolling out and maintaining that software in our labs. On top of that, the overwhelming majority of students in my experience want a simple TTS tool and ignore all the additional features wrapped into the reading product. So ... we stopped purchasing it. There was zero negative feedback from students. It shines in a supported environment like K-12. Not so much in higher ed. A student's need to read effectively doesn't change once they complete college. In my interactions with students over decades, they show no inclination to purchase expensive TTS tools on their own after they graduate. I think we serve students more effectively by showing them how to use free and inexpensive reading software that fit their needs both in school and after they complete their educational programs. Let TextHelp concentrate on K-12 and we can ignore their products until they come up with a better solution for higher education. -*- Dan On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 9:26 AM Michael Canale > wrote: They recently decided without notification that they will only support K-12 educators with support and free demo licenses. I explained that I have used the software to demonstrate their product and encourage students and parents to consider using it. Now with this new policy, I am unable to demo their product without purchasing my own license. If I worked for a K-12 they would continue to provide me a free account. Why would I purchase a license to generate business for them? In addition, they changed their minimum number of licenses that prohibit most small to medium size Universities to utilize all they pay for. Whereas K-12 has an entire district. It's all about money and has nothing to do with supporting students it's a real shame. On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:01 PM Romack, Justin > wrote: Howdy! Glad to get your message and hear your perspective! Because I feel out of the loop... What Texthelp policy are you referring to and how do they demonstrate they don't care about postsecondary institutions? We're up for renewal and the quote has drastically increased in price. I have several options to explore in responding, but I wanted more context on how others have approached changes with Texthelp (and also clarifying if what you're referring to is related to the concern I have). Hoping you're well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Michael Canale Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 10:01 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 194, Issue 7 For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call upon Texthelp of this change in policy is ridiculous. I decided to no longer support or endorse Texthelp products. Instead, I will endorse Natural Reader. I know many of you use them, however, we should not support a company that doesn't support us. [Image removed by sender.] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter -- Michael Canale Assistant Director, SDS Coordinator Deaf and Hard of Hearing Services, Sensory Impairment, and ASD [https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=11o9m2BMLp7AfTfXgiaWAVxdtMUz_EEES&revid=0Bw1zQ57rlXp1WXZoYjNZNkwxeFlRbHc2QkorU0J1eXdYa0RnPQ] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. 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Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of kerscher@montana.com Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 5:35 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hello All, I can pass on a request to the Thorium developer, and Thorium is free for Windows, Mac, and linux. It has TTS and highlighting as it reads. Also supports reading of Math, when it is MathML. Using a screen reader you can copy and paste right now, but I think you want something a non-screen reader person can use. If I understand you, you want to Highlight text and have the TTS read out what is being selected. Then you want to copy this to the clipboard and paste it into a Word document or any application that can accept text from the clipboard. Is this correct? Normally, the Read Aloud function sends it to the TTS engine and highlights as it sends the text. It seems you want to have an additional function to say for example, hold down a key while the Read Aloud is going and that would select this text for the clipboard. I am just trying to describe what is wanted to the Thorium developers. So other user interface designs are welcome. Best George From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Liza Eldred Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 3:31 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary Hi, The one thing that students really like about Read & Write is the ability to highlight and extract. >From my experience, I have not found a free or inexpensive tool that both has text-to-speech and the highlight and collect feature (for both Windows and Mac). Does anyone know of a program other than RW that can do this? If so, please let me know. It would be much appreciated! Thanks and stay well. Liza Liza Eldred Assistive Technologist II MacEwan University 780-497-5826 From: athen-list > on behalf of Dan Comden > Date: Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:42 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary EXTERNAL: Use caution. I agree with Michael on this. TextHelp makes some decent products but in my experience they repeatedly demonstrate either ignorance or apathy about the needs of higher education. This is demonstrated by their license plans for their products, in particular EquatIO which could be a powerful tool for alt text shops at many schools, but can't be utilized at many places due to the company's inflexible license options. It is less expensive to pay for hundreds of student worker hours to convert a couple of math courses every year than to purchase a license for EquatIO for even a moderately sized campus. We gave up on TextHelp R&W Gold years ago after experiencing excessive difficulty rolling out and maintaining that software in our labs. On top of that, the overwhelming majority of students in my experience want a simple TTS tool and ignore all the additional features wrapped into the reading product. So ... we stopped purchasing it. There was zero negative feedback from students. It shines in a supported environment like K-12. Not so much in higher ed. A student's need to read effectively doesn't change once they complete college. In my interactions with students over decades, they show no inclination to purchase expensive TTS tools on their own after they graduate. I think we serve students more effectively by showing them how to use free and inexpensive reading software that fit their needs both in school and after they complete their educational programs. Let TextHelp concentrate on K-12 and we can ignore their products until they come up with a better solution for higher education. -*- Dan On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 9:26 AM Michael Canale > wrote: They recently decided without notification that they will only support K-12 educators with support and free demo licenses. I explained that I have used the software to demonstrate their product and encourage students and parents to consider using it. Now with this new policy, I am unable to demo their product without purchasing my own license. If I worked for a K-12 they would continue to provide me a free account. Why would I purchase a license to generate business for them? In addition, they changed their minimum number of licenses that prohibit most small to medium size Universities to utilize all they pay for. Whereas K-12 has an entire district. It's all about money and has nothing to do with supporting students it's a real shame. On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:01 PM Romack, Justin > wrote: Howdy! Glad to get your message and hear your perspective! Because I feel out of the loop... What Texthelp policy are you referring to and how do they demonstrate they don't care about postsecondary institutions? We're up for renewal and the quote has drastically increased in price. I have several options to explore in responding, but I wanted more context on how others have approached changes with Texthelp (and also clarifying if what you're referring to is related to the concern I have). Hoping you're well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Michael Canale Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 10:01 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 194, Issue 7 For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call upon Texthelp of this change in policy is ridiculous. I decided to no longer support or endorse Texthelp products. Instead, I will endorse Natural Reader. I know many of you use them, however, we should not support a company that doesn't support us. [Image removed by sender.] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter -- Michael Canale Assistant Director, SDS Coordinator Deaf and Hard of Hearing Services, Sensory Impairment, and ASD [https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=11o9m2BMLp7AfTfXgiaWAVxdtMUz_EEES&revid=0Bw1zQ57rlXp1WXZoYjNZNkwxeFlRbHc2QkorU0J1eXdYa0RnPQ] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- -*- Dan Comden danc@uw.edu Access Technology Center www.uw.edu/itconnect/accessibility/atl/ University of Washington UW Information Technology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 851 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From adwershing at pstcc.edu Fri Mar 11 07:04:03 2022 From: adwershing at pstcc.edu (Wershing, Alice D.) Date: Fri Mar 11 07:04:19 2022 Subject: [Athen] [External] Re: [EXT]Re: Texthelp no longer support Post secondary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Susan, Kurzweil also includes highlighters, and there is an extract highlights option. There also is a way to extract words and create a word list with definitions. These files open as untitled files and can be saved to the library. Alice Schedule a training session Alice D. Wershing, M.Ed., A.T.P., C.P.A.C.C. Disability Services, Technology Specialist TNecampus Accessibility Specialist Pellissippi State Technical Community College 865-694-6751 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Robert Beach Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:43 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [External] Re: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Texthelp no longer support Post secondary CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Pellissippi State. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Not exactly, Susan. R&W has a collect highlights feature. You can use it to highlight content as you go on webpages, Word or PDF documents. When you are done, you can collect all of those highlights in various ways depending on the need. For example, you can use a color code to highlight, then collect only the color you want for that purpose such as test notes or assignments. You can also collect the colors in various orders such as yellow for major information, blue for items to review for clarity, etc. R&W puts these highlighted sections into a new Word document for you. Also, the highlighting tool can be used to create a vocabulary list. If you highlight words as you go, when you are done you can have R&W pull those words into a Word document. It creates a table with the word in the first column, the definition from the R&W dictionary in the second column, a picture from the Picture Dictionary (if available) in the third column, and a place for your own notes in the fourth column. These are good ways to make study guides. However, I question how much students really use the tool. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist ? Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Susan Kelmer Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:35 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Kurzweil allows you to highlight, copy, and then past in a word document, easy-peasy. Is that what you are talking about? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D83522.D8ADD220] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Liza Eldred Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 3:31 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary Hi, The one thing that students really like about Read & Write is the ability to highlight and extract. >From my experience, I have not found a free or inexpensive tool that both has text-to-speech and the highlight and collect feature (for both Windows and Mac). Does anyone know of a program other than RW that can do this? If so, please let me know. It would be much appreciated! Thanks and stay well. Liza Liza Eldred Assistive Technologist II MacEwan University 780-497-5826 From: athen-list > on behalf of Dan Comden > Date: Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:42 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary EXTERNAL: Use caution. I agree with Michael on this. TextHelp makes some decent products but in my experience they repeatedly demonstrate either ignorance or apathy about the needs of higher education. This is demonstrated by their license plans for their products, in particular EquatIO which could be a powerful tool for alt text shops at many schools, but can't be utilized at many places due to the company's inflexible license options. It is less expensive to pay for hundreds of student worker hours to convert a couple of math courses every year than to purchase a license for EquatIO for even a moderately sized campus. We gave up on TextHelp R&W Gold years ago after experiencing excessive difficulty rolling out and maintaining that software in our labs. On top of that, the overwhelming majority of students in my experience want a simple TTS tool and ignore all the additional features wrapped into the reading product. So ... we stopped purchasing it. There was zero negative feedback from students. It shines in a supported environment like K-12. Not so much in higher ed. A student's need to read effectively doesn't change once they complete college. In my interactions with students over decades, they show no inclination to purchase expensive TTS tools on their own after they graduate. I think we serve students more effectively by showing them how to use free and inexpensive reading software that fit their needs both in school and after they complete their educational programs. Let TextHelp concentrate on K-12 and we can ignore their products until they come up with a better solution for higher education. -*- Dan On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 9:26 AM Michael Canale > wrote: They recently decided without notification that they will only support K-12 educators with support and free demo licenses. I explained that I have used the software to demonstrate their product and encourage students and parents to consider using it. Now with this new policy, I am unable to demo their product without purchasing my own license. If I worked for a K-12 they would continue to provide me a free account. Why would I purchase a license to generate business for them? In addition, they changed their minimum number of licenses that prohibit most small to medium size Universities to utilize all they pay for. Whereas K-12 has an entire district. It's all about money and has nothing to do with supporting students it's a real shame. On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:01 PM Romack, Justin > wrote: Howdy! Glad to get your message and hear your perspective! Because I feel out of the loop? What Texthelp policy are you referring to and how do they demonstrate they don?t care about postsecondary institutions? We?re up for renewal and the quote has drastically increased in price. I have several options to explore in responding, but I wanted more context on how others have approached changes with Texthelp (and also clarifying if what you?re referring to is related to the concern I have). Hoping you?re well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Michael Canale Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 10:01 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 194, Issue 7 For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call upon Texthelp of this change in policy is ridiculous. I decided to no longer support or endorse Texthelp products. Instead, I will endorse Natural Reader. I know many of you use them, however, we should not support a company that doesn't support us. [Image removed by sender.] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter -- Michael Canale Assistant Director, SDS Coordinator Deaf and Hard of Hearing Services, Sensory Impairment, and ASD [https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=11o9m2BMLp7AfTfXgiaWAVxdtMUz_EEES&revid=0Bw1zQ57rlXp1WXZoYjNZNkwxeFlRbHc2QkorU0J1eXdYa0RnPQ] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. 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It would be wonderful if Thorium did the above. Thank-you. Liza From: athen-list On Behalf Of kerscher@montana.com Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:35 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary EXTERNAL: Use caution. Hello All, I can pass on a request to the Thorium developer, and Thorium is free for Windows, Mac, and linux. It has TTS and highlighting as it reads. Also supports reading of Math, when it is MathML. Using a screen reader you can copy and paste right now, but I think you want something a non-screen reader person can use. If I understand you, you want to Highlight text and have the TTS read out what is being selected. Then you want to copy this to the clipboard and paste it into a Word document or any application that can accept text from the clipboard. Is this correct? Normally, the Read Aloud function sends it to the TTS engine and highlights as it sends the text. It seems you want to have an additional function to say for example, hold down a key while the Read Aloud is going and that would select this text for the clipboard. I am just trying to describe what is wanted to the Thorium developers. So other user interface designs are welcome. Best George From: athen-list On Behalf Of Liza Eldred Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 3:31 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary Hi, The one thing that students really like about Read & Write is the ability to highlight and extract. >From my experience, I have not found a free or inexpensive tool that both has text-to-speech and the highlight and collect feature (for both Windows and Mac). Does anyone know of a program other than RW that can do this? If so, please let me know. It would be much appreciated! Thanks and stay well. Liza Liza Eldred Assistive Technologist II MacEwan University 780-497-5826 From: athen-list > on behalf of Dan Comden > Date: Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:42 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary EXTERNAL: Use caution. I agree with Michael on this. TextHelp makes some decent products but in my experience they repeatedly demonstrate either ignorance or apathy about the needs of higher education. This is demonstrated by their license plans for their products, in particular EquatIO which could be a powerful tool for alt text shops at many schools, but can't be utilized at many places due to the company's inflexible license options. It is less expensive to pay for hundreds of student worker hours to convert a couple of math courses every year than to purchase a license for EquatIO for even a moderately sized campus. We gave up on TextHelp R&W Gold years ago after experiencing excessive difficulty rolling out and maintaining that software in our labs. On top of that, the overwhelming majority of students in my experience want a simple TTS tool and ignore all the additional features wrapped into the reading product. So ... we stopped purchasing it. There was zero negative feedback from students. It shines in a supported environment like K-12. Not so much in higher ed. A student's need to read effectively doesn't change once they complete college. In my interactions with students over decades, they show no inclination to purchase expensive TTS tools on their own after they graduate. I think we serve students more effectively by showing them how to use free and inexpensive reading software that fit their needs both in school and after they complete their educational programs. Let TextHelp concentrate on K-12 and we can ignore their products until they come up with a better solution for higher education. -*- Dan On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 9:26 AM Michael Canale > wrote: They recently decided without notification that they will only support K-12 educators with support and free demo licenses. I explained that I have used the software to demonstrate their product and encourage students and parents to consider using it. Now with this new policy, I am unable to demo their product without purchasing my own license. If I worked for a K-12 they would continue to provide me a free account. Why would I purchase a license to generate business for them? In addition, they changed their minimum number of licenses that prohibit most small to medium size Universities to utilize all they pay for. Whereas K-12 has an entire district. It's all about money and has nothing to do with supporting students it's a real shame. On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:01 PM Romack, Justin > wrote: Howdy! Glad to get your message and hear your perspective! Because I feel out of the loop... What Texthelp policy are you referring to and how do they demonstrate they don't care about postsecondary institutions? We're up for renewal and the quote has drastically increased in price. I have several options to explore in responding, but I wanted more context on how others have approached changes with Texthelp (and also clarifying if what you're referring to is related to the concern I have). Hoping you're well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Michael Canale Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 10:01 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 194, Issue 7 For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call upon Texthelp of this change in policy is ridiculous. I decided to no longer support or endorse Texthelp products. Instead, I will endorse Natural Reader. I know many of you use them, however, we should not support a company that doesn't support us. [Image removed by sender.] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter -- Michael Canale Assistant Director, SDS Coordinator Deaf and Hard of Hearing Services, Sensory Impairment, and ASD [Image removed by sender.] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. 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Other resources would be appreciated, but I don't need resources on how to remediate their textbook - I need ways to help them input their own math. And nobody wants to learn LaTex for a 12-week course! I am aware of LaTex and know what it can do. We are a community college and none of our faculty uses LaTex! *** From Jaws What's New: Braille Math Editor JAWS and Fusion currently supports reading Math equations on web pages that are displayed using MathML, or math equations in Microsoft Word documents inserted using the native Word math format. You can navigate the individual elements of an equation using the Math Viewer, accessed by pressing ENTER from a web page or INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by EQUALS from a Word document when focused on the equation. If JAWS braille translation is set to Unified English Braille or United States English Grade 1 or Grade 2 output, math expressions are also shown on a braille display using Nemeth Braille format. The new Braille Math Editor in JAWS now enables braille users in Windows 10 to input their own equations, and in Office 365, edit existing equations in Word documents. To open the Math Editor, press the layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+EQUALS (plus sign). Focus braille display users can also press DOTS 3-4-6-7 CHORD. Similar to reading math content, JAWS braille output must be set for one of the English Grade 1 or Grade 2 translation settings in order to launch the editor. When the Math Editor opens, focus is placed into an edit field where you can immediately begin typing the equation in Nemeth braille from your braille display's keyboard. As you type, a preview pane below the edit field visually displays the equation so a sighted teacher or parent can review it. Once you are finished inputting the math equation, press ENTER or choose the Accept button to close the Math Editor. If you are in Word, the equation you entered is automatically inserted into the document at your current location. The equation is also copied to the Clipboard so you can paste it in other applications. Opening the Math Editor while focused on a math equation in a Word document displays the existing equation in Nemeth Braille, allowing you to edit or replace it. After making any changes and pressing ENTER to close the editor, the current equation in the document is replaced by the new or modified equation. Note: After inserting or modifying an equation in Word from the Math Editor, the blinking cursor (dots 7 and 8) on the braille display always remains at the beginning of the math content, even as you move by character with the LEFT and RIGHT ARROW keys. If you need to insert another line of math content, first press the END key to move to the end of the current math content and then press ENTER. While the Math Editor is opened, you have the following additional options: * Press CTRL+N to start a new equation. * Press CTRL+P to preview the current equation in the Math Viewer. When finished, press ESC to return to the Math Editor. * Press ALT+E to open the edit menu where you can copy your Nemeth Braille to the Clipboard using a specific format. MathML is the default format when copying, however, depending on the application where you intend to paste the equation, you can also choose to copy your Nemeth Braille to LaTeX or Braille ASCII. After choosing a format to copy to, paste the equation into the specific application before pressing ENTER or selecting Accept to close the Math Editor as this always copies as MathML and will erase the current clipboard contents. To learn more about Nemeth Braille, check out this Nemeth Tutorial which teaches this braille code beginning with the very basics up through advanced mathematics. *** Webuinar links: This one: https://www.freedomscientific.com/webinars/jaws-math-and-braille/ is more professional and includes video though it's for blind people so no worries ... the video is for teachers who might want to see what's being demoed. They interview a student who uses Math with Braille and show how to read it with JAWS. The other one has no video and is strictly for Braille users and is more informal: https://www.acbmedia.org/2021/08/26/20210826-vispero-training-series-learn-about-braille-hardware-and-the-braille-math-editor-1459/ Be aware that it begins with advertising for ACB. Lastly, here's some great Braille and large print Nemeth reference charts from National Braille Press - every school should buy them: https://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/NEMETH.html --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu Fri Mar 11 10:59:42 2022 From: Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu (Stager, Catherine) Date: Fri Mar 11 11:00:04 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: Texthelp no longer support Post secondary - extraction tools Message-ID: Hypothes.is is a pretty interesting tool too - it supports extraction. It can be used and implemented in multiple ways... when integrated in to LMS, it is AA WCAG compliant. It can be used as a browser extension. <%0b%0dHypothesis:%20Home%0dhttps:/web.hypothes.is%0d> Hypothesis: Home<%0b%0dHypothesis:%20Home%0dhttps:/web.hypothes.is%0d> https://web.hypothes.is<%0b%0dHypothesis:%20Home%0dhttps:/web.hypothes.is%0d> From: athen-list On Behalf Of Alexis Delevett Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:22 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: Texthelp no longer support Post secondary CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Colorado Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact your college IT Help Desk if you have any questions. Hello Liza, In addition to Kurzweil which as Susan said also extracts highighted text automatically (but is not free software), there is a free PDF library & citation tool, Zotero, which in its beta version includes the ability to annotate PDFs and extract them later on. The software is not fully accessible. The other other one I checked out a while ago was Weava, which is freemium and works with web and PDF content but is not at all accessible. ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Susan Kelmer Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 2:35 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary Kurzweil allows you to highlight, copy, and then past in a word document, easy-peasy. Is that what you are talking about? Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Liza Eldred Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 3:31 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary Hi, The one thing that students really like about Read & Write is the ability to highlight and extract. >From my experience, I have not found a free or inexpensive tool that both has text-to-speech and the highlight and collect feature (for both Windows and Mac). Does anyone know of a program other than RW that can do this? If so, please let me know. It would be much appreciated! Thanks and stay well. Liza Liza Eldred Assistive Technologist II MacEwan University 780-497-5826 From: athen-list > on behalf of Dan Comden > Date: Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:42 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary EXTERNAL: Use caution. I agree with Michael on this. TextHelp makes some decent products but in my experience they repeatedly demonstrate either ignorance or apathy about the needs of higher education. This is demonstrated by their license plans for their products, in particular EquatIO which could be a powerful tool for alt text shops at many schools, but can't be utilized at many places due to the company's inflexible license options. It is less expensive to pay for hundreds of student worker hours to convert a couple of math courses every year than to purchase a license for EquatIO for even a moderately sized campus. We gave up on TextHelp R&W Gold years ago after experiencing excessive difficulty rolling out and maintaining that software in our labs. On top of that, the overwhelming majority of students in my experience want a simple TTS tool and ignore all the additional features wrapped into the reading product. So ... we stopped purchasing it. There was zero negative feedback from students. It shines in a supported environment like K-12. Not so much in higher ed. A student's need to read effectively doesn't change once they complete college. In my interactions with students over decades, they show no inclination to purchase expensive TTS tools on their own after they graduate. I think we serve students more effectively by showing them how to use free and inexpensive reading software that fit their needs both in school and after they complete their educational programs. Let TextHelp concentrate on K-12 and we can ignore their products until they come up with a better solution for higher education. -*- Dan On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 9:26 AM Michael Canale > wrote: They recently decided without notification that they will only support K-12 educators with support and free demo licenses. I explained that I have used the software to demonstrate their product and encourage students and parents to consider using it. Now with this new policy, I am unable to demo their product without purchasing my own license. If I worked for a K-12 they would continue to provide me a free account. Why would I purchase a license to generate business for them? In addition, they changed their minimum number of licenses that prohibit most small to medium size Universities to utilize all they pay for. Whereas K-12 has an entire district. It's all about money and has nothing to do with supporting students it's a real shame. On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:01 PM Romack, Justin > wrote: Howdy! Glad to get your message and hear your perspective! Because I feel out of the loop... What Texthelp policy are you referring to and how do they demonstrate they don't care about postsecondary institutions? We're up for renewal and the quote has drastically increased in price. I have several options to explore in responding, but I wanted more context on how others have approached changes with Texthelp (and also clarifying if what you're referring to is related to the concern I have). Hoping you're well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Michael Canale Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 10:01 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 194, Issue 7 For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call all colleagues to call upon Texthelp of this change in policy is ridiculous. I decided to no longer support or endorse Texthelp products. Instead, I will endorse Natural Reader. I know many of you use them, however, we should not support a company that doesn't support us. [Image removed by sender.] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter -- Michael Canale Assistant Director, SDS Coordinator Deaf and Hard of Hearing Services, Sensory Impairment, and ASD [Image removed by sender.] Office of Student Disability Services University of Maryland, Baltimore County 225 Math/Psychology Building Desk: 410-455-6358 Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) VP: 443-410-4773 Email: canale@umbc.edu Web: sds.umbc.edu Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - J. 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JAWS is so widely used and readily available that I think this is going to have a much broader impact than previous tools. Some things you should know about the JAWS math editor: - It uses the Nemeth braille code for input and output. Before the US adopted UEB as its official braille code in 2016, Nemeth was the only technical code in use for math and science (not including the computer code). After the adoption of UEB, some states chose to use UEB as their technical code, and other states stuck with Nemeth. Depending on the age of your students and where they previously attended school, they may or may not be familiar with the Nemeth code. - There are some limitations. I?ve been able to stump JAWS? Nemeth translation, but so far I?ve only had issues with fairly obscure symbols, like shapes with specific fill patterns. I would also expect JAWS to struggle with spatial content, but I haven?t tested this out. Nemeth uses spatial layouts for some content, and the rules for these layouts don?t alway follow the typical Nemeth rules. For that reason, I would expect the JAWS translation to breakdown if you?re writing something other than in-line expressions. - I?m hearing about compatibility issues. The feature should work in Word 2019 or in Word 365. Freedom Scientific told me that it might work in ?in later versions of Word 2016?, but it won?t work in earlier versions of Word. The feature will work outside of Word and will copy MathML to the clipboard, but I haven?t tested this much yet. I?ve also heard that users are having issues with particular braille displays. I?ve been using this feature with Focus 40 and Brailliant 40 displays, and I haven?t had any issues. The tech staff at the Oregon Commission for the Blind told me that they were having issues when using the feature with the Braille Edge 40 display from HIMS. One other interesting development is that JAWS can now read math created with the Word Equation Editor. I don?t think it?s time to ditch MathType yet, but it can be good to have options. Aside from this JAWS feature, I?ve noticed that math created with the Word Equation Editor has more errors than other math tools when translating the content in Duxbury. Hope that helps! I?d be happy to answer any other questions you have about this. I don?t have all of the information, but it?s useful for me to study up on this anyhow. Michael Cantino (he/him) BVIS Technology Professional Development Specialist Northwest Regional Education Service District (503)614-1339 Check out the BVIS Tech website to find helpful resources! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 15:43:23 2022 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype@gmail.com) Date: Fri Mar 11 15:44:12 2022 Subject: [Athen] have a question i would like to post on the list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Charlotte, The go to for speech to text for math & science used to be a combination of Dragon NaturallySpeaking with Math Talk & Scientific Notebook. Sadly Metroplex was computing has gone out of business in the software combination is no longer available. The next closest option for dictation software in math & chemistry is Equatio from TextHelp. It's not nearly as sophisticated as the Math Talk combination was, but it does work and it is certainly worth checking out. Here's a link: https://www.texthelp.com/products/equatio/ Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 2:54 PM Charlotte Schiff-Norton wrote: > I am wondering if there is a speech to text program that mainly deals with > math/chemistry class? > _________________________ > Charlotte Schiff-Norton > she/her/hers > Saint Mary's College of California > Student Disability Services > > Accessibility & Assistive Technology Coordinator > Office: (925) 631-5071 > Email: cgs5@stmarys-ca.edu > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Mon Mar 14 05:53:13 2022 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Mon Mar 14 05:53:34 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Anyone have experience with the JAWS Braille Math editor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll add that I tried using the math editor with a Orbit 20, not much luck there. When I tried entering math from the braille keyboard, nothing happened at all. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Michael Cantino Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 4:21 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Anyone have experience with the JAWS Braille Math editor CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hi Deborah, I've been testing out the JAWS Braille Math Editor for the last 6 months or so, and I've been really pleased with the results. As you mentioned, the math authoring options for blind users have been pretty limited. That's why I've been really excited about this JAWS update. The print to braille and braille to print translation is really solid. It's great to finally have an option that will allow braille students to author math in braille and have that content immediately available to share with sighted users. There have been similar tools available in the past, but it's typically been limited to specific devices. JAWS is so widely used and readily available that I think this is going to have a much broader impact than previous tools. Some things you should know about the JAWS math editor: * It uses the Nemeth braille code for input and output. Before the US adopted UEB as its official braille code in 2016, Nemeth was the only technical code in use for math and science (not including the computer code). After the adoption of UEB, some states chose to use UEB as their technical code, and other states stuck with Nemeth. Depending on the age of your students and where they previously attended school, they may or may not be familiar with the Nemeth code. * There are some limitations. I've been able to stump JAWS' Nemeth translation, but so far I've only had issues with fairly obscure symbols, like shapes with specific fill patterns. I would also expect JAWS to struggle with spatial content, but I haven't tested this out. Nemeth uses spatial layouts for some content, and the rules for these layouts don't alway follow the typical Nemeth rules. For that reason, I would expect the JAWS translation to breakdown if you're writing something other than in-line expressions. * I'm hearing about compatibility issues. The feature should work in Word 2019 or in Word 365. Freedom Scientific told me that it might work in "in later versions of Word 2016", but it won't work in earlier versions of Word. The feature will work outside of Word and will copy MathML to the clipboard, but I haven't tested this much yet. I've also heard that users are having issues with particular braille displays. I've been using this feature with Focus 40 and Brailliant 40 displays, and I haven't had any issues. The tech staff at the Oregon Commission for the Blind told me that they were having issues when using the feature with the Braille Edge 40 display from HIMS. One other interesting development is that JAWS can now read math created with the Word Equation Editor. I don't think it's time to ditch MathType yet, but it can be good to have options. Aside from this JAWS feature, I've noticed that math created with the Word Equation Editor has more errors than other math tools when translating the content in Duxbury. Hope that helps! I'd be happy to answer any other questions you have about this. I don't have all of the information, but it's useful for me to study up on this anyhow. Michael Cantino (he/him) BVIS Technology Professional Development Specialist Northwest Regional Education Service District (503)614-1339 Check out the BVIS Tech website to find helpful resources! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeach at KCKCC.EDU Mon Mar 14 05:56:05 2022 From: rbeach at KCKCC.EDU (Robert Beach) Date: Mon Mar 14 05:56:12 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXT]Re: Anyone have experience with the JAWS Braille Math editor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll add that I tried using the math editor with a Orbit 20, not much luck there. When I tried entering math from the braille keyboard, nothing happened at all. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Michael Cantino Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 4:21 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [EXT]Re: [Athen] Anyone have experience with the JAWS Braille Math editor CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hi Deborah, I've been testing out the JAWS Braille Math Editor for the last 6 months or so, and I've been really pleased with the results. As you mentioned, the math authoring options for blind users have been pretty limited. That's why I've been really excited about this JAWS update. The print to braille and braille to print translation is really solid. It's great to finally have an option that will allow braille students to author math in braille and have that content immediately available to share with sighted users. There have been similar tools available in the past, but it's typically been limited to specific devices. JAWS is so widely used and readily available that I think this is going to have a much broader impact than previous tools. Some things you should know about the JAWS math editor: * It uses the Nemeth braille code for input and output. Before the US adopted UEB as its official braille code in 2016, Nemeth was the only technical code in use for math and science (not including the computer code). After the adoption of UEB, some states chose to use UEB as their technical code, and other states stuck with Nemeth. Depending on the age of your students and where they previously attended school, they may or may not be familiar with the Nemeth code. * There are some limitations. I've been able to stump JAWS' Nemeth translation, but so far I've only had issues with fairly obscure symbols, like shapes with specific fill patterns. I would also expect JAWS to struggle with spatial content, but I haven't tested this out. Nemeth uses spatial layouts for some content, and the rules for these layouts don't alway follow the typical Nemeth rules. For that reason, I would expect the JAWS translation to breakdown if you're writing something other than in-line expressions. * I'm hearing about compatibility issues. The feature should work in Word 2019 or in Word 365. Freedom Scientific told me that it might work in "in later versions of Word 2016", but it won't work in earlier versions of Word. The feature will work outside of Word and will copy MathML to the clipboard, but I haven't tested this much yet. I've also heard that users are having issues with particular braille displays. I've been using this feature with Focus 40 and Brailliant 40 displays, and I haven't had any issues. The tech staff at the Oregon Commission for the Blind told me that they were having issues when using the feature with the Braille Edge 40 display from HIMS. One other interesting development is that JAWS can now read math created with the Word Equation Editor. I don't think it's time to ditch MathType yet, but it can be good to have options. Aside from this JAWS feature, I've noticed that math created with the Word Equation Editor has more errors than other math tools when translating the content in Duxbury. Hope that helps! I'd be happy to answer any other questions you have about this. I don't have all of the information, but it's useful for me to study up on this anyhow. 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She prefers to do it using her laptop since her phone does not have enough storage. I appreciate any suggestions! Thank you! Reem Hamodi Office of Disability and Equity Disability and Equity Coordinator 16000 E. CentreTech Parkway, S202B Aurora, CO 80011 Phone: 303-340-7548 Fax: 303.340.7551 Email: Reem.hamodi@ccaurora.edu "Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experiences of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired and success achieved." -Helen Keller -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Re: Site License Usage On Campus (Susan Kelmer) 2. portable CCTV recommendations (Heidi Scher) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:39:37 +0000 From: Susan Kelmer To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Site License Usage On Campus Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The three types are standalone, network, or subscription. Subscription gives you the best bang for your buck. Students can install Kurzweil on their own devices (even multiple devices), and use anywhere they have an internet connection. In addition, it can be deployed to every computer on campus. The subscription license requires that you assign each student who needs it an account, and they receive a unique username and get to set their own password. They log in with this every time they try to open Kurzweil. They also can use the universal library, or sign into the web-based version of Kurzweil for reading on the fly. I'm including a screenshot to show you what this login dialogue box looks like. [cid:image001.png@01D83A04.70F89890] I'm happy to answer any questions you have, we've been a Kurzweil campus for a long time. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01D598AC.79FC1C60] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Alicia McDonald Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 12:53 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Site License Usage On Campus Hello, Our office has a site license for Kurzweil 3000 and we would like to utilize this to the fullest. However we were given three option of how the license can be used web based, networked or single sign on. Out of curiosity, I would like any feedback on how does other institutions have their site license up, what works and what may not. 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URL: ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list ------------------------------ End of athen-list Digest, Vol 194, Issue 15 ******************************************* From Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu Fri Mar 18 12:52:31 2022 From: Catherine.Stager at frontrange.edu (Stager, Catherine) Date: Fri Mar 18 12:53:05 2022 Subject: [Athen] Question: Video Recording Apps In-Reply-To: <670e3da9376b48caabc2fa8a2330080f@ccaurora.edu> References: <670e3da9376b48caabc2fa8a2330080f@ccaurora.edu> Message-ID: The student could use Yuja - I believe all the community colleges in Colorado have access through D2L. To learn how there are easy to use videos or we have a Getting Started Guide for Yuja . Once the video is completed it gets auto-transcribed within 24 hours. Best, Cath From: athen-list On Behalf Of Hamodi, Reem Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 9:34 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Question: Video Recording Apps Hello all, I am working with a student who is trying to video record her lectures. She attends classes over Zoom, and her professor does not feel comfortable allowing her to do that over Zoom because other students will know that the classes are being recorded. Do you have any recommended apps that she can use? She prefers to do it using her laptop since her phone does not have enough storage. I appreciate any suggestions! Thank you! Reem Hamodi Office of Disability and Equity Disability and Equity Coordinator 16000 E. CentreTech Parkway, S202B Aurora, CO 80011 Phone: 303-340-7548 Fax: 303.340.7551 Email: Reem.hamodi@ccaurora.edu "Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. 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Our rep is passing the information "upstream" so that others are aware of the concerns of postsecondary servicer providers. Best to all, Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT *she, her, hers* Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 11:47 AM Liza Eldred wrote: > Hello, > > > > If they could look at how the collect and highlight tool works in Read & > Write, and be able to incorporate that into the Thorium program, it would > make the Thorium program more appealing for our students. > > The highlight and collect tool isn?t essential but it is something that > we have not found with any other tool/program. > > > > ?Normally, the Read Aloud function sends it to the TTS engine and > highlights as it sends the text. It seems you want to have an additional > function to say for example, hold down a key while the Read Aloud is going > and that would select this text for the clipboard.? > > It would be wonderful if Thorium did the above. > > > > Thank-you. > > Liza > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *kerscher@montana.com > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:35 PM > *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary > > > > *EXTERNAL:* Use caution. > > > > > Hello All, > > > > I can pass on a request to the Thorium developer, and Thorium is free for > Windows, Mac, and linux. It has TTS and highlighting as it reads. Also > supports reading of Math, when it is MathML. > > > > Using a screen reader you can copy and paste right now, but I think you > want something a non-screen reader person can use. > > > > If I understand you, you want to Highlight text and have the TTS read out > what is being selected. Then you want to copy this to the clipboard and > paste it into a Word document or any application that can accept text from > the clipboard. > > > > Is this correct? > > > > Normally, the Read Aloud function sends it to the TTS engine and > highlights as it sends the text. It seems you want to have an additional > function to say for example, hold down a key while the Read Aloud is going > and that would select this text for the clipboard. > > > > I am just trying to describe what is wanted to the Thorium developers. So > other user interface designs are welcome. > > > > > > Best > > George > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Liza Eldred > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 3:31 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary > > > > Hi, > > The one thing that students really like about Read & Write is the ability > to highlight and extract. > > From my experience, I have not found a free or inexpensive tool that both > has text-to-speech and the highlight and collect feature (for both Windows > and Mac). > > Does anyone know of a program other than RW that can do this? If so, > please let me know. It would be much appreciated! > > Thanks and stay well. > > Liza > > > > Liza Eldred > > Assistive Technologist II > > MacEwan University > > 780-497-5826 > > > > > > *From: *athen-list on > behalf of Dan Comden > *Date: *Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:42 PM > *To: *Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject: *Re: [Athen] Texthelp no longer support Post secondary > > *EXTERNAL:* Use caution. > > > > > I agree with Michael on this. TextHelp makes some decent products but in > my experience they repeatedly demonstrate either ignorance or apathy about > the needs of higher education. > > > > This is demonstrated by their license plans for their products, in > particular EquatIO which could be a powerful tool for alt text shops at > many schools, but can't be utilized at many places due to the company's > inflexible license options. It is less expensive to pay for hundreds of > student worker hours to convert a couple of math courses every year than to > purchase a license for EquatIO for even a moderately sized campus. > > > > We gave up on TextHelp R&W Gold years ago after experiencing excessive > difficulty rolling out and maintaining that software in our labs. On top of > that, the overwhelming majority of students in my experience want a simple > TTS tool and ignore all the additional features wrapped into the reading > product. So ... we stopped purchasing it. There was zero negative feedback > from students. > > > > It shines in a supported environment like K-12. Not so much in higher ed. > > > > A student's need to read effectively doesn't change once they complete > college. In my interactions with students over decades, they show no > inclination to purchase expensive TTS tools on their own after they > graduate. I think we serve students more effectively by showing them how to > use free and inexpensive reading software that fit their needs both in > school and after they complete their educational programs. Let TextHelp > concentrate on K-12 and we can ignore their products until they come up > with a better solution for higher education. > > > > -*- Dan > > > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 9:26 AM Michael Canale wrote: > > They recently decided without notification that they will only support > K-12 educators with support and free demo licenses. I explained that I have > used the software to demonstrate their product and encourage students and > parents to consider using it. Now with this new policy, I am unable to demo > their product without purchasing my own license. If I worked for a K-12 > they would continue to provide me a free account. Why would I purchase a > license to generate business for them? > > > > In addition, they changed their minimum number of licenses that prohibit > most small to medium size Universities to utilize all they pay for. Whereas > K-12 has an entire district. It's all about money and has nothing to do > with supporting students it's a real shame. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:01 PM Romack, Justin < > justinr@disability.tamu.edu> wrote: > > Howdy! > > > > Glad to get your message and hear your perspective! > > > > Because I feel out of the loop? What Texthelp policy are you referring to > and how do they demonstrate they don?t care about postsecondary > institutions? > > > > We?re up for renewal and the quote has drastically increased in price. I > have several options to explore in responding, but I wanted more context on > how others have approached changes with Texthelp (and also clarifying if > what you?re referring to is related to the concern I have). > > > > Hoping you?re well, > > J > > > > > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > *Justin Romack* | Assistive Technology Coordinator > > Disability Resources | Texas A&M University > > 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 > > > > ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > *DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS *| One Division. One Mission. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Michael Canale > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 9, 2022 10:01 AM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 194, Issue 7 > > > > For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to > show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. Texthelp > decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. I call > all colleagues to call ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > > This Message Is From an External Sender > > This message came from outside your organization. > > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > > For at least 5 years I have had a free account with Read Write in order to > show students and parents how to use AT for their studies. > > > > Texthelp decided we in post-secondary are not important enough to support. > I call all colleagues to call upon Texthelp of this change in policy is > ridiculous. I decided to no longer support or endorse Texthelp products. > Instead, I will endorse Natural Reader. > > > > I know many of you use them, however, we should not support a company that > doesn't support us. > > > > > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > > Office of Student Disability Services > > University of Maryland, Baltimore County > > 225 Math/Psychology Building > > > > Desk: 410-455-6358 > > Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) > > VP: 443-410-4773 > > Email: canale@umbc.edu > > Web: sds.umbc.edu > > > > > *Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if > you look at it right. - J. Garcia, R Hunter* > > > > > > > > -- > > Michael Canale > > Assistant Director, SDS > > Coordinator Deaf and Hard of Hearing Services, > > Sensory Impairment, and ASD > > > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > > Office of Student Disability Services > > University of Maryland, Baltimore County > > 225 Math/Psychology Building > > > > Desk: 410-455-6358 > > Mobile: 410-688-5088 (Text, FaceTime) > > VP: 443-410-4773 > > Email: canale@umbc.edu > > Web: sds.umbc.edu > > > *Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if > you look at it right. - J. 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Heidi +++++++++++++++ Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC Associate Director - AT *she, her, hers* Center for Educational Access at the University of Arkansas 1 University of Arkansas, ARKU 209 Fayetteville, AR 72701 479.575.3104 phone 479.575.7445 fax +++++++++++++++ On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 2:08 PM Robin Cole wrote: > How about a Transformer HD from Enhanced Vision, or the MagniLink S from > Low Vision International? > > Robin Cole | she/her | Alternate Format & Assistive Technology Manager > OAE | CONNECT | Office of Accessible > Education > > Stanford University - 563 Salvatierra Walk - Stanford, CA 94305 > > 650-723-0942 > > > > The information contained in this email message is intended only for use > of the individual or entity named above. 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Re: Site License Usage On Campus (Susan Kelmer) > 2. portable CCTV recommendations (Heidi Scher) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:39:37 +0000 > From: Susan Kelmer > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Site License Usage On Campus > Message-ID: > < > DM6PR03MB4009896DA1751A3B902A6F19FB129@DM6PR03MB4009.namprd03.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > The three types are standalone, network, or subscription. > > Subscription gives you the best bang for your buck. Students can > install Kurzweil on their own devices (even multiple devices), and use > anywhere they have an internet connection. In addition, it can be deployed > to every computer on campus. The subscription license requires that you > assign each student who needs it an account, and they receive a unique > username and get to set their own password. 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We have an > Onyx > Swing Arm PC edition which has worked well in the past. However, it > doesn't > work on a PC with Windows past 8 (yes, you read that correctly). We've > contacted Freedom Scientific support which was less than helpful. > (Three > transfers which ended with a transfer to the he department where we > started > - a hang up before connection!) We're looking for a portable CCTV that > will > connect to a laptop and the camera portion can view distance (such as > the > board in the classroom) or view up close (such as the top of the desk). > > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! 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Date: Mon Mar 21 16:40:48 2022 Subject: [Athen] Seeking examples of graphs with text descriptions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can find several examples in NWEA Image Description Guidelines for Assessments Also the Table of Contents - Accessible Image Sample Book (wpengine.com) --Steve Noble steve.noble@louisville.edu 502-969-3088 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 6:20 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [Athen] Seeking examples of graphs with text descriptions CAUTION: This email originated from outside of our organization. Do not click links, open attachments, or respond unless you recognize the sender's email address and know the contents are safe. We have some blind students taking statistics. I need examples that I can freely share with the instructor and our stable of tutors. I know of some great graphs with detailed descriptions done my Cengage but they are behind a paywall. I need some I can easily share. I need the actual graph along with its description. Perhaps someone has done this as part of a research paper or dissertation. Does anyone have a link to something like this? --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.gardner at viewplus.com Tue Mar 22 09:15:26 2022 From: john.gardner at viewplus.com (John Gardner) Date: Tue Mar 22 09:16:04 2022 Subject: [Athen] FW: Seeking examples of graphs with text descriptions In-Reply-To: <0774D2E4-7387-4446-8C14-92A224F34C32@highsoft.com> References: <0774D2E4-7387-4446-8C14-92A224F34C32@highsoft.com> Message-ID: Hello Debee, I asked a friend at HighCharts to suggest a few examples for you. HighCharts has several levels of accessibility and are working with me and others on specs to make automatically accessible graphs. They are good people, and I hope you find helpful examples here. From: ?ystein Moseng Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 8:16 AM To: John Gardner Subject: Re: Seeking examples of graphs with text descriptions Hi John, thanks for thinking of us! Here is a demo that has a human created overview description: https://www.highcharts.com/samples/highcharts/accessibility/accessible-line. The folks at TextBox did write a guest blog post for us on image descriptions of charts, where they give some examples: https://www.highcharts.com/blog/tutorials/accessible-descriptions-for-interactive-charts/. We do have detailed computer generated descriptions as well, but it is still a work in progress. We just did some work on that for CSUN, where we computer generated descriptions of trends in scatter plots. Have a great rest of week! - ?ystein From: athen-list athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 3:21 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Seeking examples of graphs with text descriptions We have some blind students taking statistics. I need examples that I can freely share with the instructor and our stable of tutors. I know of some great graphs with detailed descriptions done my Cengage but they are behind a paywall. I need some I can easily share. I need the actual graph along with its description. Perhaps someone has done this as part of a research paper or dissertation. Does anyone have a link to something like this? --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please plan to join us each week for a hands-on lesson and discussion. This workshop also includes a group mailing list where you can post your questions and discoveries for other members of your cohort to read and respond, as well as a weekly recap that is optional attend half an hour before the official start of each class. We?ll cover the basics of customizing NVDA settings, getting around in Windows 10, working with text, managing files and folders and exploring the web. This workshop will be limited to 30 participants, so please apply to participate soon! This event will take place online. Register for Exploring NVDA Exploring Voiceover for Mac- a Twelve-Week Workshop Tuesdays beginning April 5, 3:00 - 4:30 PM Eastern If you know how to type, can commit to attending twelve sessions, and would like to become more confident and proficient with the Voiceover screen reader, this workshop is for you! Please plan to join us each week for a hands-on lesson and discussion. This workshop also includes a group mailing list where you can post your questions and discoveries for other members of your cohort to read and respond, as well as a weekly recap that is optional attend half an hour before the official start of every class. We?ll cover the basics of customizing Voiceover settings, getting around in the Mac OS, working with text, managing files and folders and exploring the web. This workshop will be limited to 30 participants, so please apply to participate soon! This event will take place online. Register for Exploring Voiceover Exploring JAWS - a Twelve-Week Workshop Tuesdays beginning April 5, 5:00 - 6:30 PM Eastern If you know how to type, can commit to attending twelve sessions, and would like to become more confident and proficient with the JAWS screen reader, this workshop is for you! Please plan to join us each week for a hands-on lesson and discussion. This workshop also includes a group mailing list where you can post your questions and discoveries for other members of your cohort to read and respond, as well as a weekly recap that is optional to attend half an hour before the official start of every class. We?ll cover the basics of customizing JAWS settings, getting around in Windows 10, working with text, managing files and folders and exploring the web. This workshop will be limited to 30 participants, so please apply to participate soon! This event will take place online. Register for Exploring JAWS iPhone Chat for Voiceover Beginners First Saturdays (April 2, May 7, June 4), 1:00 - 2:15 PM Eastern If you?re new to using Voiceover on the iPhone or if you?re still working toward confidence, this discussion group is for you. We?ll spend some time going over the theory of how screen readers work, gestures everyone needs to know, and some strategies for getting help. Then, we?ll open it up for questions and networking. This event will take place online. Join the Zoom for Voiceover Beginners iPhone Chat for Voiceover Users: Beyond the Basics First Saturdays (April 2, May 7, June 4), 2:30 - 4:00 PM Eastern Talk about customizing gestures and settings, exploring new apps, choosing accessories, dealing with bugs, and whatever else comes to mind. This is a space for any and all Voiceover topics that go beyond the basics of using common gestures and built-in apps. This event will take place online. Join the Zoom for Voiceover: Beyond the Basics The Zoom about Zoom: What Participants and Hosts Need to know Friday April 1, 2:00 - 3:30 PM Get ready to manage microphones, cameras, chat messages, raised hands, polls and breakout rooms with confidence. We?ll show you everything you need to know to bring your best self to virtual gatherings, whether you?re attending or hosting. This event will take place online. Register for the Zoom about Zoom Descriptive Origami Saturday April 9, 1:00 - 2:30 PM Eastern We?ll use effective verbal communication and teamwork to learn origami models like a lotus, a goldfish and a card holder. This hands-on event will take place in person: kindly RSVP to ChanceyFleet@nypl.org to reserve your spot! Braille Screen Input for iOS, Android and Kindle Fire Saturday April 16, 1:30 - 3:00 PM If you know Braille (even if you don?t know contractions), you can type comfortably and quickly with Braille screen input. In this workshop, we?ll explore how to set it up, gestures you need to know, and what you can do if you?re having trouble with this feature. This event will take place in person and online. Please RSVP to ChanceyFleet@nypl.org to attend in person, or register to participate online. Join the Zoom for Braille Screen Input for iOS, Android, and Kindle Fire Emojication: Know your Emoji Wednesday April 6, 6:00 - 7:30 PM Eastern Join us for a lively discussion about emoji: what they mean, how they evolve over time, and how blind and low-vision people can understand and use them with confidence. This event will take place online. Join the Zoom for Emojication: Know your Emoji Using Dictation with Braille Displays on iOS Wednesday April 13, 2:00 PM - 3:30 PM Eastern Many of us use built-in dictation as well as various transcription apps. We may do it to save time, transcribe long recordings, work with translation, or make communication more effective when someone has a speech or hearing impairment. In this workshop, we?ll explore the best practices for getting dictation to work well with Braille displays, and highlight the performance of Braille on various dictation and transcription apps. This event will take place online. 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Doug Hayman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Olympic College dhayman@olympic.edu (360) 475-7632 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 3:37 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [EXTERNAL] - [Athen] FW: Tech Workshops - Spring Calendar CAUTION: This email came from a non-OC system or external source. Beware of phishing and social engineering! Free training for screen reader users ? this is from the New York public library ? I have listed only their zoom sessions available to anyone. These all are no-cost. Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 3:18 PM Subject: Tech Workshops - Spring Calendar Intro to NVDA: a 12-week Workshop Tuesdays beginning April 5, 12:00 - 1:30 PM Eastern There are several Windows screen readers to choose from. Come discover how this free, open-source option compares. If you know how to type, understand Windows basics, can commit to attending twelve sessions, and would like to become more confident and proficient with the NVDA screen reader, this workshop is for you! Please plan to join us each week for a hands-on lesson and discussion. This workshop also includes a group mailing list where you can post your questions and discoveries for other members of your cohort to read and respond, as well as a weekly recap that is optional attend half an hour before the official start of each class. We?ll cover the basics of customizing NVDA settings, getting around in Windows 10, working with text, managing files and folders and exploring the web. This workshop will be limited to 30 participants, so please apply to participate soon! This event will take place online. Register for Exploring NVDA Exploring Voiceover for Mac- a Twelve-Week Workshop Tuesdays beginning April 5, 3:00 - 4:30 PM Eastern If you know how to type, can commit to attending twelve sessions, and would like to become more confident and proficient with the Voiceover screen reader, this workshop is for you! Please plan to join us each week for a hands-on lesson and discussion. This workshop also includes a group mailing list where you can post your questions and discoveries for other members of your cohort to read and respond, as well as a weekly recap that is optional attend half an hour before the official start of every class. We?ll cover the basics of customizing Voiceover settings, getting around in the Mac OS, working with text, managing files and folders and exploring the web. This workshop will be limited to 30 participants, so please apply to participate soon! This event will take place online. Register for Exploring Voiceover Exploring JAWS - a Twelve-Week Workshop Tuesdays beginning April 5, 5:00 - 6:30 PM Eastern If you know how to type, can commit to attending twelve sessions, and would like to become more confident and proficient with the JAWS screen reader, this workshop is for you! Please plan to join us each week for a hands-on lesson and discussion. This workshop also includes a group mailing list where you can post your questions and discoveries for other members of your cohort to read and respond, as well as a weekly recap that is optional to attend half an hour before the official start of every class. We?ll cover the basics of customizing JAWS settings, getting around in Windows 10, working with text, managing files and folders and exploring the web. This workshop will be limited to 30 participants, so please apply to participate soon! This event will take place online. Register for Exploring JAWS iPhone Chat for Voiceover Beginners First Saturdays (April 2, May 7, June 4), 1:00 - 2:15 PM Eastern If you?re new to using Voiceover on the iPhone or if you?re still working toward confidence, this discussion group is for you. We?ll spend some time going over the theory of how screen readers work, gestures everyone needs to know, and some strategies for getting help. Then, we?ll open it up for questions and networking. This event will take place online. Join the Zoom for Voiceover Beginners iPhone Chat for Voiceover Users: Beyond the Basics First Saturdays (April 2, May 7, June 4), 2:30 - 4:00 PM Eastern Talk about customizing gestures and settings, exploring new apps, choosing accessories, dealing with bugs, and whatever else comes to mind. This is a space for any and all Voiceover topics that go beyond the basics of using common gestures and built-in apps. This event will take place online. Join the Zoom for Voiceover: Beyond the Basics The Zoom about Zoom: What Participants and Hosts Need to know Friday April 1, 2:00 - 3:30 PM Get ready to manage microphones, cameras, chat messages, raised hands, polls and breakout rooms with confidence. We?ll show you everything you need to know to bring your best self to virtual gatherings, whether you?re attending or hosting. This event will take place online. Register for the Zoom about Zoom Descriptive Origami Saturday April 9, 1:00 - 2:30 PM Eastern We?ll use effective verbal communication and teamwork to learn origami models like a lotus, a goldfish and a card holder. This hands-on event will take place in person: kindly RSVP to ChanceyFleet@nypl.org to reserve your spot! Braille Screen Input for iOS, Android and Kindle Fire Saturday April 16, 1:30 - 3:00 PM If you know Braille (even if you don?t know contractions), you can type comfortably and quickly with Braille screen input. In this workshop, we?ll explore how to set it up, gestures you need to know, and what you can do if you?re having trouble with this feature. This event will take place in person and online. Please RSVP to ChanceyFleet@nypl.org to attend in person, or register to participate online. Join the Zoom for Braille Screen Input for iOS, Android, and Kindle Fire Emojication: Know your Emoji Wednesday April 6, 6:00 - 7:30 PM Eastern Join us for a lively discussion about emoji: what they mean, how they evolve over time, and how blind and low-vision people can understand and use them with confidence. This event will take place online. Join the Zoom for Emojication: Know your Emoji Using Dictation with Braille Displays on iOS Wednesday April 13, 2:00 PM - 3:30 PM Eastern Many of us use built-in dictation as well as various transcription apps. We may do it to save time, transcribe long recordings, work with translation, or make communication more effective when someone has a speech or hearing impairment. In this workshop, we?ll explore the best practices for getting dictation to work well with Braille displays, and highlight the performance of Braille on various dictation and transcription apps. This event will take place online. Register for Using Dictation with Braille Displays on iOS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vwalton at columbiabasin.edu Tue Mar 22 16:01:42 2022 From: vwalton at columbiabasin.edu (Walton, Vicki) Date: Tue Mar 22 16:01:55 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] - FW: Tech Workshops - Spring Calendar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh Doug, those were my thoughts exactly. Thank you for posting this question. I was just looking at this. Take care. [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology/Disability Support Services Program Support Supervisor II 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 Pronouns: they/them [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] [cid:image008.jpg@01D5E69C.17A2CE90] CSUN Assistive Technology Certificate Program (ATCP) (December 2016) From: athen-list On Behalf Of Hayman, Douglass Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 3:59 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] - FW: Tech Workshops - Spring Calendar CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu. Deborah, Is the target audience blind and low vision users in New York? It?d be fun to explore and learn more as a sighted user who uses these to test web sites but I wouldn?t want to take up the space of those who they are looking to reach and serve. Doug Hayman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Olympic College dhayman@olympic.edu (360) 475-7632 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 3:37 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [EXTERNAL] - [Athen] FW: Tech Workshops - Spring Calendar CAUTION: This email came from a non-OC system or external source. Beware of phishing and social engineering! Free training for screen reader users ? this is from the New York public library ? I have listed only their zoom sessions available to anyone. These all are no-cost. Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 3:18 PM Subject: Tech Workshops - Spring Calendar Intro to NVDA: a 12-week Workshop Tuesdays beginning April 5, 12:00 - 1:30 PM Eastern There are several Windows screen readers to choose from. Come discover how this free, open-source option compares. If you know how to type, understand Windows basics, can commit to attending twelve sessions, and would like to become more confident and proficient with the NVDA screen reader, this workshop is for you! Please plan to join us each week for a hands-on lesson and discussion. This workshop also includes a group mailing list where you can post your questions and discoveries for other members of your cohort to read and respond, as well as a weekly recap that is optional attend half an hour before the official start of each class. We?ll cover the basics of customizing NVDA settings, getting around in Windows 10, working with text, managing files and folders and exploring the web. This workshop will be limited to 30 participants, so please apply to participate soon! This event will take place online. Register for Exploring NVDA Exploring Voiceover for Mac- a Twelve-Week Workshop Tuesdays beginning April 5, 3:00 - 4:30 PM Eastern If you know how to type, can commit to attending twelve sessions, and would like to become more confident and proficient with the Voiceover screen reader, this workshop is for you! Please plan to join us each week for a hands-on lesson and discussion. This workshop also includes a group mailing list where you can post your questions and discoveries for other members of your cohort to read and respond, as well as a weekly recap that is optional attend half an hour before the official start of every class. We?ll cover the basics of customizing Voiceover settings, getting around in the Mac OS, working with text, managing files and folders and exploring the web. This workshop will be limited to 30 participants, so please apply to participate soon! This event will take place online. Register for Exploring Voiceover Exploring JAWS - a Twelve-Week Workshop Tuesdays beginning April 5, 5:00 - 6:30 PM Eastern If you know how to type, can commit to attending twelve sessions, and would like to become more confident and proficient with the JAWS screen reader, this workshop is for you! Please plan to join us each week for a hands-on lesson and discussion. This workshop also includes a group mailing list where you can post your questions and discoveries for other members of your cohort to read and respond, as well as a weekly recap that is optional to attend half an hour before the official start of every class. We?ll cover the basics of customizing JAWS settings, getting around in Windows 10, working with text, managing files and folders and exploring the web. This workshop will be limited to 30 participants, so please apply to participate soon! This event will take place online. Register for Exploring JAWS iPhone Chat for Voiceover Beginners First Saturdays (April 2, May 7, June 4), 1:00 - 2:15 PM Eastern If you?re new to using Voiceover on the iPhone or if you?re still working toward confidence, this discussion group is for you. We?ll spend some time going over the theory of how screen readers work, gestures everyone needs to know, and some strategies for getting help. Then, we?ll open it up for questions and networking. This event will take place online. Join the Zoom for Voiceover Beginners iPhone Chat for Voiceover Users: Beyond the Basics First Saturdays (April 2, May 7, June 4), 2:30 - 4:00 PM Eastern Talk about customizing gestures and settings, exploring new apps, choosing accessories, dealing with bugs, and whatever else comes to mind. This is a space for any and all Voiceover topics that go beyond the basics of using common gestures and built-in apps. This event will take place online. Join the Zoom for Voiceover: Beyond the Basics The Zoom about Zoom: What Participants and Hosts Need to know Friday April 1, 2:00 - 3:30 PM Get ready to manage microphones, cameras, chat messages, raised hands, polls and breakout rooms with confidence. We?ll show you everything you need to know to bring your best self to virtual gatherings, whether you?re attending or hosting. This event will take place online. Register for the Zoom about Zoom Descriptive Origami Saturday April 9, 1:00 - 2:30 PM Eastern We?ll use effective verbal communication and teamwork to learn origami models like a lotus, a goldfish and a card holder. This hands-on event will take place in person: kindly RSVP to ChanceyFleet@nypl.org to reserve your spot! Braille Screen Input for iOS, Android and Kindle Fire Saturday April 16, 1:30 - 3:00 PM If you know Braille (even if you don?t know contractions), you can type comfortably and quickly with Braille screen input. In this workshop, we?ll explore how to set it up, gestures you need to know, and what you can do if you?re having trouble with this feature. This event will take place in person and online. Please RSVP to ChanceyFleet@nypl.org to attend in person, or register to participate online. Join the Zoom for Braille Screen Input for iOS, Android, and Kindle Fire Emojication: Know your Emoji Wednesday April 6, 6:00 - 7:30 PM Eastern Join us for a lively discussion about emoji: what they mean, how they evolve over time, and how blind and low-vision people can understand and use them with confidence. This event will take place online. Join the Zoom for Emojication: Know your Emoji Using Dictation with Braille Displays on iOS Wednesday April 13, 2:00 PM - 3:30 PM Eastern Many of us use built-in dictation as well as various transcription apps. 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There is a web app, MathPix Note, that converts full PDF files to proper mathml or LaTeX for export to Word, HTML, or PDF...MP Note a fantastic markdown editor for their user friendly MathPix Markdown syntax with basic LaTeX style editing. The dual Markdown and output panes in the editor make for a steep learning curve. All for about $100 per year for 2 licenses. The company has been proactive about meeting with us to get our input on issues and features we'd like to see. Couldn't recommend them more highly. I had the opposite experience with EquatIO, with no licensing options for accessible document specialists, they would only allow licensed use for remediation if we bought an over $8000/year district license. We only wanted 1 or 2 licenses, which they don't support. Not sure how useful students would find it. Maybe there are others here that have some experience with that use case. Hope that helps. Sean Loraas Accessibility Technician Alt. 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Instructors can use EquatIO to create accessible math materials including quizzes, tests, handouts & homework. EquatIO is available at no cost to teachers and is available in the chrome toolbar. For the students with math disabilities or who have reading disabilities, this is a tool with tremendous benefits. Personally? I would love for TextHelp to develop & offer a stand alone version of EquatIO for alt-text production only. Many of us know the benefits and ease of use and would campaign our colleges for a single license purchase for alt-text production labs! I hope these few tips add to your knowledge. Perhaps others can add more? Wink Harner On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 4:53 PM Sean Loraas wrote: > Russell, > I use MathPix for remediation, and it is one of the best tools in my > toolbox for converting math and technical contract to braille and screen > reader accessible HTML/MathML. It is spooky accurate when snipping > equations from anywhere and the clipboard style snip OCR window has options > for pasting into MS Word as Equation Editor, Math type, as well as > conversion to LaTeX, and other formats. They constantly improve by the > features, which now can handle tables, text, chemistry diagrams and any > math you encounter. There is a web app, MathPix Note, that converts full > PDF files to proper mathml or LaTeX for export to Word, HTML, or PDF...MP > Note a fantastic markdown editor for their user friendly MathPix Markdown > syntax with basic LaTeX style editing. The dual Markdown and output panes > in the editor make for a steep learning curve. All for about $100 per year > for 2 licenses. The company has been proactive about meeting with us to get > our input on issues and features we'd like to see. Couldn't recommend them > more highly. I had the opposite experience with EquatIO, with no licensing > options for accessible document specialists, they would only allow licensed > use for remediation if we bought an over $8000/year district license. We > only wanted 1 or 2 licenses, which they don't support. > > > Not sure how useful students would find it. Maybe there are others here > that have some experience with that use case. Hope that helps. > > Sean Loraas > > Accessibility Technician > Alt. Text & Media > Austin Community College > Eastview Campus > Office: 2140 > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Wink Harner Assistive Technology Consulting and Training Alternative Text Production Portland OR. foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From solowoniukr at macewan.ca Wed Mar 23 10:55:28 2022 From: solowoniukr at macewan.ca (Russell Solowoniuk) Date: Wed Mar 23 10:55:58 2022 Subject: [Athen] MathPix versus Equatio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Wink, Thanks so much for this additional information. This really helps distinguish the differences between MathPix and Equatio, and will help us a lot. Best regards, Russell From: athen-list On Behalf Of foreigntype@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 7:15 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] MathPix versus Equatio EXTERNAL: Use caution. Adding onto what Sean just presented about math pix, which is in fact one of the best remediation OCR tools there is right now, EquatIO is not intended (by TextHelp) for production labs for alt text conversion. This tool is really designed for both teachers & students to use to create accessible math. 1. Students can hear math read aloud in text to speech format; 2. Students can use dictation software built into the system to dictate math; 3. Students can use a digital pen or a tablet and input handwritten math & EquatIO will convert it to digital format; 4. Instructors can use EquatIO to create accessible math materials including quizzes, tests, handouts & homework. EquatIO is available at no cost to teachers and is available in the chrome toolbar. For the students with math disabilities or who have reading disabilities, this is a tool with tremendous benefits. Personally? I would love for TextHelp to develop & offer a stand alone version of EquatIO for alt-text production only. Many of us know the benefits and ease of use and would campaign our colleges for a single license purchase for alt-text production labs! I hope these few tips add to your knowledge. Perhaps others can add more? Wink Harner On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 4:53 PM Sean Loraas > wrote: Russell, I use MathPix for remediation, and it is one of the best tools in my toolbox for converting math and technical contract to braille and screen reader accessible HTML/MathML. It is spooky accurate when snipping equations from anywhere and the clipboard style snip OCR window has options for pasting into MS Word as Equation Editor, Math type, as well as conversion to LaTeX, and other formats. They constantly improve by the features, which now can handle tables, text, chemistry diagrams and any math you encounter. There is a web app, MathPix Note, that converts full PDF files to proper mathml or LaTeX for export to Word, HTML, or PDF...MP Note a fantastic markdown editor for their user friendly MathPix Markdown syntax with basic LaTeX style editing. The dual Markdown and output panes in the editor make for a steep learning curve. All for about $100 per year for 2 licenses. The company has been proactive about meeting with us to get our input on issues and features we'd like to see. Couldn't recommend them more highly. I had the opposite experience with EquatIO, with no licensing options for accessible document specialists, they would only allow licensed use for remediation if we bought an over $8000/year district license. We only wanted 1 or 2 licenses, which they don't support. Not sure how useful students would find it. Maybe there are others here that have some experience with that use case. Hope that helps. Sean Loraas Accessibility Technician Alt. Text & Media Austin Community College Eastview Campus Office: 2140 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Wink Harner Assistive Technology Consulting and Training Alternative Text Production Portland OR. foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foreigntype at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 15:14:36 2022 From: foreigntype at gmail.com (foreigntype@gmail.com) Date: Wed Mar 23 15:15:38 2022 Subject: [Athen] MathPix versus Equatio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Of course, Russell. Glad to help. Wink Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 10:56 AM Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > Hi Wink, > > > > Thanks so much for this additional information. This really helps > distinguish the differences between MathPix and Equatio, and will help us a > lot. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Russell > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *foreigntype@gmail.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2022 7:15 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] MathPix versus Equatio > > > > *EXTERNAL:* Use caution. > > > > > > > Adding onto what Sean just presented about math pix, which is in fact one > of the best remediation OCR tools there is right now, EquatIO is not > intended (by TextHelp) for production labs for alt text conversion. This > tool is really designed for both teachers & students to use to create > accessible math. > > > > 1. Students can hear math read aloud in text to speech format; > > 2. Students can use dictation software built into the system to dictate > math; > > 3. Students can use a digital pen or a tablet and input handwritten math & > EquatIO will convert it to digital format; > > 4. Instructors can use EquatIO to create accessible math materials > including quizzes, tests, handouts & homework. > > > > EquatIO is available at no cost to teachers and is available in the chrome > toolbar. For the students with math disabilities or who have reading > disabilities, this is a tool with tremendous benefits. > > > > Personally? I would love for TextHelp to develop & offer a stand alone > version of EquatIO for alt-text production only. Many of us know the > benefits and ease of use and would campaign our colleges for a single > license purchase for alt-text production labs! > > > > I hope these few tips add to your knowledge. Perhaps others can add more? > > > > Wink Harner > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 4:53 PM Sean Loraas wrote: > > Russell, > > I use MathPix for remediation, and it is one of the best tools in my > toolbox for converting math and technical contract to braille and screen > reader accessible HTML/MathML. It is spooky accurate when snipping > equations from anywhere and the clipboard style snip OCR window has options > for pasting into MS Word as Equation Editor, Math type, as well as > conversion to LaTeX, and other formats. They constantly improve by the > features, which now can handle tables, text, chemistry diagrams and any > math you encounter. There is a web app, MathPix Note, that converts full > PDF files to proper mathml or LaTeX for export to Word, HTML, or PDF...MP > Note a fantastic markdown editor for their user friendly MathPix Markdown > syntax with basic LaTeX style editing. The dual Markdown and output panes > in the editor make for a steep learning curve. All for about $100 per year > for 2 licenses. The company has been proactive about meeting with us to get > our input on issues and features we'd like to see. Couldn't recommend them > more highly. I had the opposite experience with EquatIO, with no licensing > options for accessible document specialists, they would only allow licensed > use for remediation if we bought an over $8000/year district license. We > only wanted 1 or 2 licenses, which they don't support. > > > > > > Not sure how useful students would find it. Maybe there are others here > that have some experience with that use case. Hope that helps. > > Sean Loraas > > Accessibility Technician > Alt. Text & Media > Austin Community College > Eastview Campus > Office: 2140 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > -- > > Wink Harner Assistive Technology Consulting and Training Alternative Text > Production Portland OR. foreigntype@gmail.com 480-984-0034 > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lnorwich at bu.edu Thu Mar 24 09:00:34 2022 From: lnorwich at bu.edu (Norwich, Lorraine S) Date: Thu Mar 24 09:01:02 2022 Subject: [Athen] SPSS and NVDA Message-ID: Dear All, Please can you help me with the Accessibility of SPSS. We are using version 27 of SPSS and a student is hacing trouble working with SPSS. Any help would be greatly aprreciat4ed. Best, Lorraine Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS Assistant Director of Disability & Access Services 25 Buick Street 3rd Floor, Boston MA 02215 lnorwich@bu.edu (email) 617-353-3658 (vox) 617-353-9646 (fax) www.bu.edu/disability (website) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glen.walker at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 09:12:08 2022 From: glen.walker at gmail.com (glen walker) Date: Thu Mar 24 09:12:32 2022 Subject: [Athen] SPSS and NVDA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Related but not a direct answer to your question, but SAS (another statistical package) has really good support for screen readers. Most universities have licenses to SAS so that might be an option, although if a particular class requires SPSS, that doesn't help, sorry. On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 10:01 AM Norwich, Lorraine S wrote: > Dear All, > > > > Please can you help me with the Accessibility of SPSS. We are using > version 27 of SPSS and a student is hacing trouble working with SPSS. > > > > Any help would be greatly aprreciat4ed. > > > > Best, > > > > Lorraine > > > > Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS > > Assistant Director of Disability & Access Services > > 25 Buick Street 3rd Floor, Boston MA 02215 > > lnorwich@bu.edu (email) > > 617-353-3658 (vox) > > 617-353-9646 (fax) > > www.bu.edu/disability (website) > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From serena.johnson at cpcc.edu Thu Mar 24 13:40:28 2022 From: serena.johnson at cpcc.edu (Serena Johnson) Date: Thu Mar 24 13:40:57 2022 Subject: [Athen] Book adoption procedures and handouts Message-ID: I apologizein advance for the cross post. 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URL: From molsson at sbctc.edu Thu Mar 24 14:40:07 2022 From: molsson at sbctc.edu (Monica Olsson) Date: Thu Mar 24 14:40:22 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] - FW: Tech Workshops - Spring Calendar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am interested as well and have the same question as Doug. [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass] Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington ? Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Walton, Vicki Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 4:01 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] - FW: Tech Workshops - Spring Calendar Oh Doug, those were my thoughts exactly. Thank you for posting this question. I was just looking at this. Take care. [Visit the CBC Website] Vicki Walton Assistive Technology/Disability Support Services Program Support Supervisor II 509.542.4428, or ext. 2428 2600 N. 20th Ave., Pasco, WA 99301 Pronouns: they/them [Follow CBC on Facebook] [Follow CBC on Instagram] [Follow CBC on Twitter] [Follow CBC on YouTube] [Follow CBC on Snapchat] [We All Soar Together] [cid:image008.jpg@01D5E69C.17A2CE90] CSUN Assistive Technology Certificate Program (ATCP) (December 2016) From: athen-list On Behalf Of Hayman, Douglass Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 3:59 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] - FW: Tech Workshops - Spring Calendar CAUTION: This email originated outside Columbia Basin College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Questions? Call the IS Helpdesk at x2353 or email ishelp@columbiabasin.edu. Deborah, Is the target audience blind and low vision users in New York? It?d be fun to explore and learn more as a sighted user who uses these to test web sites but I wouldn?t want to take up the space of those who they are looking to reach and serve. Doug Hayman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Olympic College dhayman@olympic.edu (360) 475-7632 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 3:37 PM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [EXTERNAL] - [Athen] FW: Tech Workshops - Spring Calendar CAUTION: This email came from a non-OC system or external source. Beware of phishing and social engineering! Free training for screen reader users ? this is from the New York public library ? I have listed only their zoom sessions available to anyone. These all are no-cost. Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 3:18 PM Subject: Tech Workshops - Spring Calendar Intro to NVDA: a 12-week Workshop Tuesdays beginning April 5, 12:00 - 1:30 PM Eastern There are several Windows screen readers to choose from. Come discover how this free, open-source option compares. If you know how to type, understand Windows basics, can commit to attending twelve sessions, and would like to become more confident and proficient with the NVDA screen reader, this workshop is for you! Please plan to join us each week for a hands-on lesson and discussion. This workshop also includes a group mailing list where you can post your questions and discoveries for other members of your cohort to read and respond, as well as a weekly recap that is optional attend half an hour before the official start of each class. We?ll cover the basics of customizing NVDA settings, getting around in Windows 10, working with text, managing files and folders and exploring the web. This workshop will be limited to 30 participants, so please apply to participate soon! This event will take place online. Register for Exploring NVDA Exploring Voiceover for Mac- a Twelve-Week Workshop Tuesdays beginning April 5, 3:00 - 4:30 PM Eastern If you know how to type, can commit to attending twelve sessions, and would like to become more confident and proficient with the Voiceover screen reader, this workshop is for you! Please plan to join us each week for a hands-on lesson and discussion. This workshop also includes a group mailing list where you can post your questions and discoveries for other members of your cohort to read and respond, as well as a weekly recap that is optional attend half an hour before the official start of every class. We?ll cover the basics of customizing Voiceover settings, getting around in the Mac OS, working with text, managing files and folders and exploring the web. This workshop will be limited to 30 participants, so please apply to participate soon! This event will take place online. Register for Exploring Voiceover Exploring JAWS - a Twelve-Week Workshop Tuesdays beginning April 5, 5:00 - 6:30 PM Eastern If you know how to type, can commit to attending twelve sessions, and would like to become more confident and proficient with the JAWS screen reader, this workshop is for you! Please plan to join us each week for a hands-on lesson and discussion. This workshop also includes a group mailing list where you can post your questions and discoveries for other members of your cohort to read and respond, as well as a weekly recap that is optional to attend half an hour before the official start of every class. We?ll cover the basics of customizing JAWS settings, getting around in Windows 10, working with text, managing files and folders and exploring the web. This workshop will be limited to 30 participants, so please apply to participate soon! This event will take place online. Register for Exploring JAWS iPhone Chat for Voiceover Beginners First Saturdays (April 2, May 7, June 4), 1:00 - 2:15 PM Eastern If you?re new to using Voiceover on the iPhone or if you?re still working toward confidence, this discussion group is for you. We?ll spend some time going over the theory of how screen readers work, gestures everyone needs to know, and some strategies for getting help. Then, we?ll open it up for questions and networking. This event will take place online. Join the Zoom for Voiceover Beginners iPhone Chat for Voiceover Users: Beyond the Basics First Saturdays (April 2, May 7, June 4), 2:30 - 4:00 PM Eastern Talk about customizing gestures and settings, exploring new apps, choosing accessories, dealing with bugs, and whatever else comes to mind. This is a space for any and all Voiceover topics that go beyond the basics of using common gestures and built-in apps. This event will take place online. Join the Zoom for Voiceover: Beyond the Basics The Zoom about Zoom: What Participants and Hosts Need to know Friday April 1, 2:00 - 3:30 PM Get ready to manage microphones, cameras, chat messages, raised hands, polls and breakout rooms with confidence. We?ll show you everything you need to know to bring your best self to virtual gatherings, whether you?re attending or hosting. This event will take place online. Register for the Zoom about Zoom Descriptive Origami Saturday April 9, 1:00 - 2:30 PM Eastern We?ll use effective verbal communication and teamwork to learn origami models like a lotus, a goldfish and a card holder. This hands-on event will take place in person: kindly RSVP to ChanceyFleet@nypl.org to reserve your spot! Braille Screen Input for iOS, Android and Kindle Fire Saturday April 16, 1:30 - 3:00 PM If you know Braille (even if you don?t know contractions), you can type comfortably and quickly with Braille screen input. In this workshop, we?ll explore how to set it up, gestures you need to know, and what you can do if you?re having trouble with this feature. This event will take place in person and online. Please RSVP to ChanceyFleet@nypl.org to attend in person, or register to participate online. Join the Zoom for Braille Screen Input for iOS, Android, and Kindle Fire Emojication: Know your Emoji Wednesday April 6, 6:00 - 7:30 PM Eastern Join us for a lively discussion about emoji: what they mean, how they evolve over time, and how blind and low-vision people can understand and use them with confidence. This event will take place online. Join the Zoom for Emojication: Know your Emoji Using Dictation with Braille Displays on iOS Wednesday April 13, 2:00 PM - 3:30 PM Eastern Many of us use built-in dictation as well as various transcription apps. 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Tried to find something online just now with a large vendor I have used for personal music gear needs and for work, sweetwater.com but didn't find something just like that. This was close and along the lines of what I'd suggest: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/XP106W--samson-expedition-xp106w The smaller the speaker the poorer it will do for quality of sound and durability, in my experience. I'd imagine the speaker being off to the side of the instructor perhaps pointing towards both the instructor and students but up in front of the class. Then the students would be required to use the handheld wireless microphone when asking questions. Then both the instructor and fellow students could hear what was asked. If you asked your knowledgeable dealer like sweetwater, B&H photo or larger local music equipment vendor they might have the perfect unit in mind. When I would do audio support for events, I'd put a PA system up front that had a unit which plugged into the PA to take in mulitiple handheld wireless microphones. That way a presenter could have one, or panelist and another could roam in the audience so that all could hear. And if remote captioning was being done, a separate microphone linked to a computer would be near but not right on top of one of the PA speakers so that a live transcript would include presenters and audience questions. Finally, don't skimp on such gear and buy the $100 bargain product as it'll have poor audio output, and likely breakdown in a short time. Doug Hayman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Olympic College dhayman@olympic.edu (360) 475-7632 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Kluesner, Bryon Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 9:01 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [EXTERNAL] - [Athen] Question for the group CAUTION: This email came from a non-OC system or external source. 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Ziegler, Program Manager for Online Learning Accessibility MIT Office of Digital Learning From lnorwich at bu.edu Sun Mar 27 07:09:49 2022 From: lnorwich at bu.edu (Norwich, Lorraine S) Date: Sun Mar 27 07:10:08 2022 Subject: [Athen] MathPix use with Canvas In-Reply-To: <420EF708-90AF-47AF-AA86-743C96D34B05@mit.edu> References: <420EF708-90AF-47AF-AA86-743C96D34B05@mit.edu> Message-ID: Dear All, Please can you post this to the list. Thanks Lorraine -----Original Message----- From: athen-list On Behalf Of Mary J Ziegler Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 1:56 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] MathPix use with Canvas Hi, I really appreciated the thread about MathPix last week (thank you!). Coincidentally, I am in the process of sorting out the best way to promote the usage of MathPix with Canvas. Has anyone deployed MathPix on an organization-wide basis (with or without Canvas) such that they can share detail on the best way to set folks up to use it? Is there a way to avoid each individual that wants to use it downloading the Snip tool to their desktop? I'm sold on the value of MathPix. My dilemma is what to promote as the best avenue to share/use it across the university. Any tips appreciated. Thanks, Mary Mary J. Ziegler, Program Manager for Online Learning Accessibility MIT Office of Digital Learning _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list From lydia at autistichoya.com Sun Mar 27 21:36:14 2022 From: lydia at autistichoya.com (Lydia X. Z. Brown) Date: Sun Mar 27 21:37:00 2022 Subject: [Athen] Columbus OH: Ohio State University hiring Deputy ADA Coordinator for Digital Accessibility Message-ID: Just the messenger: I am hiring a Deputy ADA Coordinator for Digital Accessibility in the Office of Institutional Equity at The Ohio State University. Based on the previous deputies this is a great 3-6 year growth opportunity for an individual who has worked a bit in the digital accessibility arena, is committed to equity, and wants to have an impact on campus culture and beyond. Description Summary: Under the direction of the ADA Coordinator the Deputy ADA Coordinator for Digital Accessibility will exercise an increasing level of independence as they lead the university's digital accessibility program; as university leader they will provide oversight, and guidance to campus units in developing and implementing digital access strategic plans. Coordinating the selection and implementation of campus-wide accessibility tools and training with skilled staff and highly engaged partners. Hybrid work anchored in Columbus Ohio Salary commiserate with experience; range starts at $116,000 Full post and application process: https://osu.wd1.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/OSUCareers/job/Columbus-Campus/Deputy-ADA-Coordinator_R39551-1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Peter.Bossley at thomsonreuters.com Mon Mar 28 10:12:38 2022 From: Peter.Bossley at thomsonreuters.com (Bossley, Peter (TR Product)) Date: Mon Mar 28 10:12:57 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] Columbus OH: Ohio State University hiring Deputy ADA Coordinator for Digital Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I can confirm that this is an excellent opportunity ? and the ADA team that this position is on is one of the best in the country. The potential impact you could have in this role is very significant. Reporting up through Scott Lissner, who is Ohio State?s ADA Coordinator and who is a great boss and mentor. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 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Based on the previous deputies this is a great 3-6 year growth opportunity for an individual who has worked a bit in the digital accessibility arena, is committed to equity, and wants to have an impact on campus culture and beyond. Description Summary: Under the direction of the ADA Coordinator the Deputy ADA Coordinator for Digital Accessibility will exercise an increasing level of independence as they lead the university's digital accessibility program; as university leader they will provide oversight, and guidance to campus units in developing and implementing digital access strategic plans. Coordinating the selection and implementation of campus-wide accessibility tools and training with skilled staff and highly engaged partners. Hybrid work anchored in Columbus Ohio Salary commiserate with experience; range starts at $116,000 Full post and application process: https://osu.wd1.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/OSUCareers/job/Columbus-Campus/Deputy-ADA-Coordinator_R39551-1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From help at nationaldeafcenter.org Tue Mar 29 10:26:28 2022 From: help at nationaldeafcenter.org (National Deaf Center) Date: Tue Mar 29 10:26:51 2022 Subject: [Athen] Question for the group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Greetings Byron, The National Deaf Center on Postsecondary Outcomes (NDC) saw your post and we wanted to respond. We recommend contacting the Job Accommodations Network for direct assistance as they provide free consultation and assistance with troubleshooting workplace accommodations for employees. In the meantime, here are several resources and considerations based on our experiences with deaf students in similar environments: - Review the common ALS types in our Assistive Listening Systems 101 guide, including system components (i.e., transmitter, microphone, and receiver). - The deaf faculty member should consult with their Audiologist to receive a customized recommendation on what assistive listening devices could work for them, especially if they have a hearing aid or cochlear implants. Generally speaking, an ALS can be used with headphones or an intermediary device that transmits sounds directly to hearing aids and cochlear implants (e.g. neckloop or streamer device). It may be uncomfortable to wear headphones over hearing aids but could still be an option to try. If you have a portable system, consider loaning it to the deaf faculty member for further testing. - It would also be helpful to know more specifics about the setting and how people are communicating in the setting. For example: - Is the deaf faculty member unable to hear student questions and comments from around the room as they are lecturing? - Are there group discussions or activities involved? - Are people wearing masks? - Is there a sound system in the classroom and if so, what does the room sound system look like? Is there a single microphone attached to the podium at the front of the room only? Are there table top or ceiling microphones spread throughout the room that connect to the in-room speakers? Are multiple microphones available to pass around the room? - Another option to consider discussing with the faculty is providing real-time speech-to-text services (e.g. CART, C-Print, or TypeWell) where they would receive real-time captions produced by a professional. Speech-to-text providers can be remote or in-person. A laptop or another device with the real-time captions can be strategically placed for the faculty to see. - Classroom management strategies can help ensure equitable access to communication in the room. Here are some ideas that may work in this environment: - Establish turn-taking protocols, such as passing a mic around so that questions and comments are easily accessible to everyone in the room. - Ask students to repeat themselves or re-phrase questions in a different way. - Set up an interactive document where questions or comments can be typed in realtime (e.g. Google Documents). This could also become an option for communal notes for the entire class. We would also recommend subscribing to the NDC Listserv and asking colleagues for additional suggestions. To sign up for the listserv go to nationaldeafcenter.org/signup . Once the listserv admin adds you to the group, you can send a new question by emailing nationaldeafcenter@utlists.utexas.edu. We hope the above resources and considerations are helpful. Should you have any additional questions please send us an email at help@nationaldeafcenter.org. Have a great day! *NDC | help team* help@nationaldeafcenter.org [image: https://www.nationaldeafcenter.org/] Subscribe to our newsletter ! NDC is a technical assistance and dissemination center funded by the U.S. Department of Education's Office of Special Education Programs #H326D210002. Project Officer: Dr. Louise Tripoli. Disclaimers: 1) The contents of this email do not necessarily represent the positions or policies of the federal government. 2) NDC does not provide legal advice and any information shared should not be considered as such. 3) NDC does not endorse any specific products/services/vendors and any information shared should not be considered as such. On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 11:03 AM Kluesner, Bryon wrote: > Hi all, > > > > Our campus has an adjunct who has hearing loss is having difficulty > hearing the students in the classroom. The room is not yet set up as a > smart classroom. Does anyone have any suggestions on an amplification > device that can be purchased for the instructor to improve/enhance the > sound in the room so they are able to hear the students better? Or any > other potential solution? > > > > Thanks and have a nice weekend. > > > > Bryon > > > > Bryon Kluesner RhD, ATAC > > Adaptive Technology Coordinator > > Disability Resource Center > > University of Tennessee at Chattanooga > > 615 McCallie Ave., Dept. 2953 > > Chattanooga, TN 37403 > > 423-425-5251 > > > > To schedule an appointment, please click the following link: > > > > *https://utcemsa.as.me/DRC-BK-AA60 * > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From christopher.phillips at usu.edu Tue Mar 29 12:51:54 2022 From: christopher.phillips at usu.edu (Christopher Phillips) Date: Tue Mar 29 12:52:31 2022 Subject: [Athen] Accessibility Policies and External Content Message-ID: Hello everyone ? We are finalizing some campus accessibility policies and we are struggling with how the policy should cover linking or embedding inaccessible content on public sites. If we are creating/hosting a video or document then clearly our accessibility standards would apply to it. However, it gets a little tricky when considering content created by or hosted by others and whether we link to or embed that content. I would love any feedback or thoughts from the list as we work through a couple of challenges: 1. Part of the discussion is how we share the information ? for example if I link to another website I may consider if it is accessible, but we would not require that websites only link to accessible sites. However, if I embedded a page from another site on my own site ? is that different? It is still hosted by someone else, but it feels like embedded site/document/video may have a higher expectation that a linked site/document/video. Is there a substantial difference in expectation for something that is linked vs embedded? 2. If we did have a standard for embedded content, but not linked content ? there is some concern that some groups might use that to get around captioning a video by linking to it instead of embedding it, even when embedding it might be the better user experience. I would love to hear from anyone who has worked through how they address this type of content in any guidelines or standards. Thank you! -- Christopher Phillips Electronic and Information Technology Accessibility Coordinator Center for Innovative Design and Instruction Utah State University https://www.usu.edu/accessibility/ 435-797-5535 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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During peak times of the academic year, replies may be delayed. If a reply is not received within 3 business days, please resend your message. If your matter is urgent, please contact the Accessibility, Counselling and Student Development office at acsd@kings.uwo.ca King's University College is situated on the traditional lands of the Anishinaabeg, Haudenausaune, Lenaapeewak, and Attawandaron peoples. This territory also covers lands connected to the London Township Treaty and Sombra Treaty 1796, and the Dish with One Spoon Wampum. May we honour their teachings and stewardship of the land. ________________________________ Good afternoon everyone, A group of Adaptive/Assistive Technologists (AT) are looking to examine the impact of virtual/remote support for Adaptive/Assistive Technologists during the pandemic. Our goal is to understand the effect virtual support had/is having on your students/clients, yourself, and your organization. The intent is to release the results of this survey as a white paper which you will have access to via your AT networks. This white paper can help inform how you in your role or your organization adjust to future AT supports for your students/clients. We have opened the survey to AT's from all sectors: K-12, post-secondary, public, and private sectors. The survey may take you approximately 7-10 minutes to complete. We appreciate you taking the dedicated time to complete this survey, as it will benefit our entire community of AT's. AT's that are new or seasoned are invited to participate. Please forward this survey/email to any AT networks you are connected with or share with AT colleagues not active on these AT networks. Ideally, we would like responses before Friday, April 29th, 2022. All responses will remain anonymous. As an incentive, at the end of the survey, you can choose to enter your name into a raffle to win a prize. 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Dawn ATHEN President Dawn Hunziker Assistant Director, Digital and Physical Access | Disability Resources The University of Arizona | hunziker@arizona.edu drc.arizona.edu | itaccessibility.arizona.edu 520-626-9409 From: athen-list On Behalf Of ATHEN President Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 12:00 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT][Athen] Student Scholarship - ATHEN's Teresa Haven Scholarship is now accepting applications External Email Hello ATHEN and AHEAD Members, A reminder that ATHEN's 2022 Teresa Haven Scholarship for Students with Disabilities is now accepting nominations and applications. Please review the scholarship application requirements on the scholarship information page. Deadline for submission is April 8, 2022. Note that all applications must include the following: ? Nomination from ATHEN or AHEAD member. ? Completed student application. Teresa Haven, Ph.D., was a long-time ATHEN contributor and member of the Executive Council. She was a passionate advocate for student equity and diversity in higher education. In remembrance of her dedication and service to students, the ATHEN membership voted unanimously to create a scholarship in her memory. Thank you to the Executive Council and to those who have volunteered to participate on the 2022 Teresa Haven Scholarship Selection Committee. Have a good day! Dawn Hunziker ATHEN President -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From krista at inclusiveinstructionaldesign.com Thu Mar 31 14:23:43 2022 From: krista at inclusiveinstructionaldesign.com (Krista Greear) Date: Thu Mar 31 14:24:06 2022 Subject: [Athen] STEM Conference Recordings Message-ID: Greetings, Some of you may recall that ATHEN hosted the first?ever online STEM Accessibility Conference on Feb 10th and 11th of 2022. All 17 sessions were recorded and captioned. Check out the Conference Schedule for the session topics. The Keynote: Arbitrarily Close to Access in STEM , presented by Zach Lattin (a lover of math who happens to be blind), was especially enlightening! Are they free? Yes, recordings are free for members of ATHEN and/or AHEAD. Membership will be verified. Non?member access to the recordings is a flat $200 USD fee. I am a member of ATHEN or AHEAD, what do I need to do? 1. Please complete the recordings request form so we may verify membership. I am NOT a member of ATHEN or AHEAD, what do I need to do? 1. Please complete the recordings request form. 2. Sign up to be a member of either ATHEN or AHEAD. 1. ATHEN Membership details 2. AHEAD Membership details 1. 1. I am NOT a member of ATHEN or AHEAD, and I don?t want to become a member. What do I need to do? 1. Please complete the recordings request form. 2. Pay the flat $200 USD fee. Submit payment form and information to: AHEAD, ATTN: Jane A. Johnston 8015 West Kenton Circle, Suite 230 Huntersville, NC 28078 Email: ahead@ahead.org Phone: 704?947?7779 Fax: 704?948?7779 Who do I contact for help? Please email president@athenpro.org. When is the next conference? Save the date for the next virtual STEM Accessibility Conference held on Feb 9th and 10th in 2023. Best, ATHEN Executive Council -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: