[Athen] AT solution for student with brain injury
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Katherine et al ATHENites
There are some pretty useful alternatives for the Dasher app. Check out
this link for more info:
https://alternativeto.net/software/dasher/
Wink Harner
On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 1:47 PM Katherine Deibel <kndeibel at metageekery.org>
wrote:
> I’ve been following this and wishing there was more interest in
> alternative text entry ideas like there were in the mid/late 2000s. I’m not
> sure how viable it is nowadays, but I wonder if an entry method like
> Dasher <https://www.inference.org.uk/dasher/> would be of benefit?
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> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> *On
> Behalf Of *Karen Latimer
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 2, 2022 2:24 PM
> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network <
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> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] AT solution for student with brain injury
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> Co-writer is still a thing (
> https://learningtools.donjohnston.com/product/cowriter/). Other word
> predictions include the Ginger suite, several google extensions (like
> Grammarly which actually does sentence prediction), Read and Write for
> Google, and others. It will depend on which features they are looking for.
> It might be worthwhile to try Read and Write for Google (
> https://www.texthelp.com/products/read-and-write-education/) to see how
> the combination of tools benefits her (speech input, word prediction etc).
> There is a free 30 day trial on the extension. She might also find the
> text-to-speech and highlighting tools useful. I would also look at some
> different trackballs/mice that might be less fatiguing and faster. Typing
> with an on-screen keyboard and a mouse is going to be pretty tiring.
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> The other question is if this is a physical barrier (i.e. accessing the
> keyboard) or a cognitive one (knowing what to write and how to write it).
> It might be a combo of both--which might lead you to other technologies...
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> If you have access to an AT Act program near you--you may be able to find
> a specialist to help the student learn what works best for them (
> https://www.at3center.net/stateprogram).
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> Best of luck...
>
> Karen
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> On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 7:20 PM Monica Olsson <molsson at sbctc.edu> wrote:
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> Looks like* co:Writer*
> <https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cowriter-universal-app/lahlmdogjpblkonckkgbljegkiijjbag?hl=en>
> is still a thing.
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> behalf of Dan Comden <danc at uw.edu>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2022 3:46 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] AT solution for student with brain injury
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> Hey Justin,
>
> I'd look at a couple of different approaches for this student, esp if
> fatigue is a factor. They can switch between methods to reduce fatigue that
> could result from a single approach.
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> Something like a head pointer, on-screen keyboard (with word prediction)
> can give hands/arms a rest.
>
> Combine that with something that allows for word prediction (is Co:Writer
> still a thing?) in using standard input.
>
> There's always switch input as a fallback but from your description, it
> may not be needed.
>
>
>
> Based on your summary, I don't think pursuing speech input makes much
> sense. If basic dictation in Windows is not working well, it's likely that
> Dragon will be just as frustrating. Certainly going with a headset
> microphone would be the first step. I keep seeing folks struggling with
> speech trying to use the crappy built-in microphones on their laptops.
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> I've been playing with LipSurf <https://www.lipsurf.com/> a bit -- it's a
> really cool extension for the Chrome browser that works much better than
> Dragon for browsing. Again, I'd recommend a headset over a desktop/laptop
> microphone. Could be this is a solution for general web browsing but if
> speech is difficult, it may not be worth spending a bunch of time pursuing.
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> -*- Dan
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> On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:46 AM Romack, Justin <
> justinr at disability.tamu.edu> wrote:
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> Howdy assistive technology aficionados!
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>
>
> I’m working with a student who has damage to their brain stem as a result
> of cancer and treatment.
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> This student’s noted barrier is in writing. Their speech and dexterity /
> motor control has been impacted. I can have a conversation with this
> student and understand them reasonably well, but I do have concerns about
> Dragon’s effectiveness. They did mention trying the built-in speech
> recognition inside of MS Word and stated this solution was not useful. They
> also have difficulty using a mouse or keyboard for extended periods of time.
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> We will look at Dragon as an option, but I’m curious what other solutions
> or strategies you all might suggest?
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> Always grateful!
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> Thanks,
>
> J
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