From justinr at disability.tamu.edu Sun May 1 16:15:18 2022 From: justinr at disability.tamu.edu (Romack, Justin) Date: Sun May 1 16:15:24 2022 Subject: [Athen] Any Capti campuses out there? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm very interested in seeing replies to this. Please post to list, if you would. We, like many, have been evaluating other options aside from Read&Write. Our license agreement jumped in price quite radically this year, and while we have renewed through 2024, we'll continue to explore other options to see if there's a better fit financially without sacrificing the ease of use and flexibility offered by R&W. What I like about R&W is that it can be used just about anywhere with the click of a button. Many solutions we've tested require users to upload or open their media in the reading solution itself and this extra step seems unnecessary. There's a lot to be said about the simplicity and versatility of R&W. I'm eager to hear of other campuses who have looked into Capti or are using it with their students. Thanks y'all! Be well, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman Sent: Friday, April 29, 2022 10:03 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Any Capti campuses out there? We are considering a shift from Read&Write to Capti. I'd love to hear from those of you who currently have a Capti license. How is it going for you? Anything you particularly like or don't like about it? If you use the secure ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. 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However, others, like me, prefer lots of tabs, "tabittis"; they can right click or (on windows keyboards, context menu key) or another custom or browser command (e.g. command click in Safari) to open in a new tab. Lastly, much of the default behavior of opened links and tabs/windows can be customized per the browser settings. Chris Johnson Accessibility Consultant expressABLE 150 East B St #44 Casper, WY 82602 chris@expressable.org Facebook Twitter LinkedIn "Express, Educate & Employ your Abilities with the right technology and training!" On 4/22/22 10:28 AM, glen walker wrote: > The general result of many WCAG success criteria is that they don't > define *exactly* what passes or fails.? This is where experience comes > in but is still subjective.? All I was saying is that when you click > on a link, you expect a change of context.? That's the whole point of > a link.? Does WCAG require notifying the user that it opens in the > same tab vs a new tab?? Again, subjective.? The "change of context > " link within the > normative definition of WCAG 3.2.2 makes the definition normative > too.? And that definition includes other definitions (user agent, > viewport, and content) which makes those definitions normative.? So > you're getting closer to having an *exact* meaning but not quite.? For > example, the viewport definition > is "object in which the > user agent presents content".? That seems kind of vague.? And then a > subsequent note says > "Viewports include windows, frames, loudspeakers, and virtual > magnifying glasses".? Loudspeakers?? They lost me there.? But > "windows", maybe that's closer to what we're talking about. > > So I try to be careful if I state that WCAG *requires* something or > doesn't require something in absolute terms. It's usually not that simple. > > Should you indicate a link opens in a new window?? Does it matter if > WCAG requires it or not?? Does WCAG need to be the big stick to > convince you to have a "new window" indicator? What if you just > discussed it from a UX perspective?? If you think it'll be good for > your user, then do it (provided it doesn't make the interface > inaccessible to some people). > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danc at uw.edu Mon May 2 14:19:40 2022 From: danc at uw.edu (Dan Comden) Date: Mon May 2 14:20:09 2022 Subject: [Athen] Website accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: "marketing best practice" made me laugh out loud. Thank you for making a Monday better. Good discussion. Hyperlinks take the user to a new page or within the same page which is expected behavior. IF they open a new context (tab, window, application) this should be announced/indicated. An alternate "rule" is links within a site should not open new windows/tabs. I have dozens of tabs open at a time but they should be site-unique unless I choose otherwise. Leave it up to the user, don't reinvent a typical browser experience without a very good (and explained) reason. 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Discover Helperbird and its literacy support tools to help individuals to succeed when working online or within Google files including Docs and Slides and PDFs. Some of the features include, Immersive Reader by Microsft, Text adjustments, Reader Mode, sticky notes, word prediction, natural text to speech and over 32 other features. Also get to ask its Founder, any questions you might have. Registration is NOW OPEN - Visit the N.O.A.T. Events Site for more information and to register Hoping to see everyone online Friday, May 6th at 1:30pm Eastern! Take care, Doug Mantle, Founder | The Network of Assistive Technologists www.NOAT.ca | in...@NOAT.ca [https://www.kings.uwo.ca/kings/assets/Image/email/accessibility-counselling.png] King?s University College is committed to accessibility for persons with disabilities. 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In my opinion, they have significantly different features. Especially when it comes to writing support (CAPTI doesn't have any). It may be helpful to make a list of the features that your students are using/or what support you WANT them to use, and then look to see which product best fits your needs. K On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 7:16 PM Romack, Justin wrote: > I?m very interested in seeing replies to this. Please post to list, if you > would. > > > > We, like many, have been evaluating other options aside from Read&Write. > Our license agreement jumped in price quite radically this year, and while > we have renewed through 2024, we?ll continue to explore other options to > see if there?s a better fit financially without sacrificing the ease of use > and flexibility offered by R&W. > > > > What I like about R&W is that it can be used just about anywhere with the > click of a button. Many solutions we?ve tested require users to upload or > open their media in the reading solution itself and this extra step seems > unnecessary. There?s a lot to be said about the simplicity and versatility > of R&W. > > > > I?m eager to hear of other campuses who have looked into Capti or are > using it with their students. > > > > Thanks y?all! > > > > Be well, > > J > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > *Justin Romack* | Assistive Technology Coordinator > > Disability Resources | Texas A&M University > > 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 > > > > ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > *DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS *| One Division. One Mission. > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman > *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2022 10:03 AM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [Athen] Any Capti campuses out there? > > > > We are considering a shift from Read&Write to Capti. I?d love to hear from > those of you who currently have a Capti license. How is it going for you? > Anything you particularly like or don?t like about it? If you use the > secure > > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > > *This Message Is From an External Sender * > > This message came from outside your organization. > > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > > We are considering a shift from Read&Write to Capti. I?d love to hear from > those of you who currently have a Capti license. How is it going for you? > Anything you particularly like or don?t like about it? 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Personally I always enable automatic captions on zoom and I always request them when I see the option. I know they are not perfect and especially when folks with non-US accents speak it does a very poor job but if an org doesn't have the resources to invest in CART, I think it's much better than nothing. Otter.ai does a really great job of captioning and when you pay for the subscription you can actually add your own dictionary so it does a much better job of picking up names and any very specific terminology that you may be using as long as it's in the dictionary. On Thu, May 5, 2022, 16:17 Tiffany Kennell wrote: > Hello, > > We are having conversations on campus about the pros and cons of > automatic captions. I would like to hear from you- is your school using > automatic captions on a regular basis, or automatic transcripts for remote > classes or events? What do you think about automatic captions? I > look forward to hearing from you. > > Kind regards, > > Tiffany Kennell, BS > Chemeketa Community College > Student Accessibility Services > tiffany.kennell@chemeketa.edu > 503.399.5192 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wulfcx at jmu.edu Fri May 6 05:36:29 2022 From: wulfcx at jmu.edu (Wulf, Christina - wulfcx) Date: Fri May 6 05:36:40 2022 Subject: [Athen] Any Capti campuses out there? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Regarding Capti: We are not a "Capti school" per se, but my office provides individual Capti accounts to students with accommodations for alternative formats. Capti has some downsides (what program doesn't?), but overall we've been very pleased, and it offers a lot of independence, organizational support, and control to students. These elements have been particularly useful: *Having an individual Capti account allows students to keep all their readings in their Capti "library." We can upload book files to our Capti admin account & give students immediate access. (They don't have to come into our office & pick a USB or fiddle around with file exchanges). The books just appear in their library. *Students can independently upload a variety of formats from various sources to their Capti library. They log in from the web--no additional software required. *Capti's mobile app is quite good & easy to use. Students can access everything in their library & much of Capti's web functionality. *Control of the adaptable display appearance is terrific -- good enlargement capabilities, color options, font, text display (such as showing just a few lines at a time), etc. *We can't view the content that students upload to their own accounts, so they have some privacy. But we can tell the last time a student logged in, which is helpful for suspending accounts that aren't in use. *Easy integration with Bookshare. This is a big plus for us. Students can independently download from Bookshare into their personal Capti library & then manipulate appearance, voice/speed, etc. as needed. *An individual account is extremely affordable ($29.99/year for premium version), so it's quite feasible for a student to purchase & continue using Capti after graduation. I think this is very important. *Handy notetaking/study tools. In my experience, the students who use these tools LOVE these tools. All that said, we just purchased several stand-alone Read&Write licenses because there are things it can do that Capti can't. One negative about Capti. They redesign the layout and organization of the program with far too much frequency, sometimes making unannounced changes or hiding crucial tools and doing away with useful methods of organizing content. It's really frustrating (really, really, really frustrating). They launched the last big revision last August (yes, August) without updating their own training materials to reflect the changes. If any of you are in discussion with Capti about purchasing their product, maybe you could mention this concern. Some of the changes they made are fabulous -- like adding dictation tools -- but some changes seem arbitrary and undermine the useability of the product (imho). That said, their tech support folks are wonderful, and they have been responsive to fixing some of these problems. I hope that's helpful! 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(Karen Latimer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 10:25:51 -0400 From: Karen Latimer To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Any Capti campuses out there? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi all, I would suggest that you carefully analyze the features of both. In my opinion, they have significantly different features. Especially when it comes to writing support (CAPTI doesn't have any). It may be helpful to make a list of the features that your students are using/or what support you WANT them to use, and then look to see which product best fits your needs. K On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 7:16 PM Romack, Justin wrote: > I?m very interested in seeing replies to this. Please post to list, if you > would. > > > > We, like many, have been evaluating other options aside from Read&Write. > Our license agreement jumped in price quite radically this year, and while > we have renewed through 2024, we?ll continue to explore other options to > see if there?s a better fit financially without sacrificing the ease of use > and flexibility offered by R&W. > > > > What I like about R&W is that it can be used just about anywhere with the > click of a button. Many solutions we?ve tested require users to upload or > open their media in the reading solution itself and this extra step seems > unnecessary. There?s a lot to be said about the simplicity and versatility > of R&W. > > > > I?m eager to hear of other campuses who have looked into Capti or are > using it with their students. > > > > Thanks y?all! > > > > Be well, > > J > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > *Justin Romack* | Assistive Technology Coordinator > > Disability Resources | Texas A&M University > > 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 > > > > ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > *DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS *| One Division. One Mission. > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman > *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2022 10:03 AM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [Athen] Any Capti campuses out there? > > > > We are considering a shift from Read&Write to Capti. I?d love to hear from > those of you who currently have a Capti license. How is it going for you? > Anything you particularly like or don?t like about it? If you use the > secure > > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > > *This Message Is From an External Sender * > > This message came from outside your organization. > > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > > We are considering a shift from Read&Write to Capti. I?d love to hear from > those of you who currently have a Capti license. How is it going for you? > Anything you particularly like or don?t like about it? If you use the > secure exam feature, I?d love to hear about that too. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman (he, him, his) > Assistant Director, Disability Resources > SUNY Cortland > Memorial Library, Room B-204 > P.O. 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I?ve tried searching for FAQ PDF thinking I would get the shorter documents but keep getting templates for FAQ documents. I have two documents I have been using but both are on COVID-19 and I want to start moving away from these and use more generic FAQ or short PDFs. One of the documents I currently use has a lot of lists in it so gives students lots of practice manually building lists. The other has headings and links as well as lists. I do have one document that I can still use that has a good example of a table needing remediation so just need some shorter documents, either tagged or untagged to use for assignments 1 and 2. Any contributions would be appreciated! BTW, most of my store of PDFs are too long for beginners to work on. ? Cheers, Karen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Does anyone happen to know > anyone who can Braille in Hindi? Any referral would be appreciated > > Thank you > > Michael Canale > UMBC > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From help at nationaldeafcenter.org Tue May 10 06:21:47 2022 From: help at nationaldeafcenter.org (National Deaf Center) Date: Tue May 10 06:22:17 2022 Subject: [Athen] Are you using automatic captions? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Greetings Tiffany, When you say ?We are having conversations on campus?? an important consideration is centering the people who ultimately are the end-users of such technology to see if it is effective for them. For example, we often see deaf1 students struggling with access because their schools will rely on auto-caption features and will not provide professional speech-to-text service providers (i.e. CART, C-Print, or TypeWell captionists) and/or quality captions for videos. With poor accuracy rates among other concerns, automatic speech recognition (ASR) technology must be carefully considered where and when it is implemented. Generally speaking, it is not recommended for use with classroom access or live events when deaf people are present because of the risk of misunderstandings. We recommend reviewing: Auto Captions and Deaf Students: Why Automatic Speech Recognition Technology Is Not the Answer (Yet) . However, there may be certain use cases where ASR technology could be useful such as, but not limited to: - A tool when creating transcripts to edit when captioning pre-recorded videos. Editing ASR transcripts can be more efficient than creating a transcript from scratch. - An accommodation for people with mobility and/or dexterity disabilities to type independently. - A stop-gap tool for one-on-one situations when deaf and hearing people need to communicate. - As a note taking tool for some students. We hope this helps provide considerations on using ASR technology on campus. We also would encourage you to post your question on the NDC Listserv to ask colleagues who may frequently interact with captioning requests on campus to learn more about their strategies. To join the NDC listserv, sign up at nationaldeafcenter.org/signup . Should you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to reach out to us for more information on this topic. Additional Resources - Does Auto Captioning Effectively Accommodate Deaf People? (Webinar Recording) - Captioned Media: Automatic Captions - Speech-to-Text Services (STTS) vs. Automatic Speech Recognition (ASR) 1NDC uses the term deaf in an all-inclusive manner, to include people who may identify as deaf, deafblind, deafdisabled, hard of hearing, late-deafened, and hearing impaired. *NDC | help team* help@nationaldeafcenter.org [image: https://www.nationaldeafcenter.org/] Subscribe to our newsletter ! NDC is a technical assistance and dissemination center funded by the U.S. Department of Education's Office of Special Education Programs #H326D210002. Project Officer: Dr. Louise Tripoli. Disclaimers: 1) The contents of this email do not necessarily represent the positions or policies of the federal government. 2) NDC does not provide legal advice and any information shared should not be considered as such. 3) NDC does not endorse any specific products/services/vendors and any information shared should not be considered as such. On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 8:25 PM Victoria Ch?vez wrote: > Personally I always enable automatic captions on zoom and I always request > them when I see the option. I know they are not perfect and especially when > folks with non-US accents speak it does a very poor job but if an org > doesn't have the resources to invest in CART, I think it's much better than > nothing. Otter.ai does a really great job of captioning and when you pay > for the subscription you can actually add your own dictionary so it does a > much better job of picking up names and any very specific terminology that > you may be using as long as it's in the dictionary. > > On Thu, May 5, 2022, 16:17 Tiffany Kennell > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> We are having conversations on campus about the pros and cons of >> automatic captions. I would like to hear from you- is your school using >> automatic captions on a regular basis, or automatic transcripts for remote >> classes or events? What do you think about automatic captions? I >> look forward to hearing from you. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Tiffany Kennell, BS >> Chemeketa Community College >> Student Accessibility Services >> tiffany.kennell@chemeketa.edu >> 503.399.5192 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tiffany.kennell at chemeketa.edu Tue May 10 15:10:42 2022 From: tiffany.kennell at chemeketa.edu (Tiffany Kennell) Date: Tue May 10 15:10:58 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] athen-list Digest, Vol 196, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for your reply NDC. We do not consider any AI generated transcripts or captioning an appropriate substitution for communication access accommodations. My question is about the use of AI when there is not an accommodation for communication access. Tiffany Kennell, BS Chemeketa Community College Student Accessibility Services tiffany.kennell@chemeketa.edu 503.399.5192 On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 12:04 PM < athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu> wrote: > Send athen-list mailing list submissions to > athen-list@u.washington.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-list-owner@mailman12.u.washington.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Are you using automatic captions? (National Deaf Center) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 08:21:47 -0500 > From: National Deaf Center > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: Re: [Athen] Are you using automatic captions? > Message-ID: > W4d2Ty6_cQMCkWPH9vjVfX9q4bfXiQTUzQCFfpuw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Greetings Tiffany, > > When you say ?We are having conversations on campus?? an important > consideration is centering the people who ultimately are the end-users of > such technology to see if it is effective for them. For example, we often > see deaf1 students struggling with access because their schools will rely > on auto-caption features and will not provide professional speech-to-text > service providers (i.e. CART, > C-Print, or TypeWell captionists) and/or quality captions > for > videos. > With poor accuracy rates among other concerns, automatic speech recognition > (ASR) technology must be carefully considered where and when it is > implemented. Generally speaking, it is not recommended for use with > classroom access or live events when deaf people are present because of the > risk of misunderstandings. We recommend reviewing: Auto Captions and Deaf > Students: Why Automatic Speech Recognition Technology Is Not the Answer > (Yet) > < > https://www.nationaldeafcenter.org/news/auto-captions-and-deaf-students-why-automatic-speech-recognition-technology-not-answer-yet > > > . > > However, there may be certain use cases where ASR technology could be > useful such as, but not limited to: > > - > > A tool when creating transcripts to edit when captioning pre-recorded > videos. Editing ASR transcripts can be more efficient than creating a > transcript from scratch. > - > > An accommodation for people with mobility and/or dexterity disabilities > to type independently. > - > > A stop-gap tool for one-on-one situations when deaf and hearing people > need to communicate. > - > > As a note taking > > tool for some students. > > > We hope this helps provide considerations on using ASR technology on > campus. We also would encourage you to post your question on the NDC > Listserv to ask colleagues who may frequently interact with captioning > requests on campus to learn more about their strategies. To join the NDC > listserv, sign up at nationaldeafcenter.org/signup > . > > Should you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to reach > out to us for more information on this topic. > > Additional Resources > > - > > Does Auto Captioning Effectively Accommodate Deaf People? > (Webinar Recording) > > > - > > Captioned Media: Automatic Captions > > - > > Speech-to-Text Services (STTS) vs. Automatic Speech Recognition (ASR) > > > > 1NDC uses the term > deaf in > an all-inclusive manner, to include people who may identify as deaf, > deafblind, deafdisabled, hard of hearing, late-deafened, and hearing > impaired. > > *NDC | help team* > help@nationaldeafcenter.org > [image: https://www.nationaldeafcenter.org/] > > > > > > > Subscribe to our newsletter ! > > NDC is a technical assistance and dissemination center funded by the U.S. > Department of Education's Office of Special Education Programs > #H326D210002. Project Officer: Dr. Louise Tripoli. Disclaimers: 1) The > contents of this email do not necessarily represent the positions or > policies of the federal government. 2) NDC does not provide legal advice > and any information shared should not be considered as such. 3) NDC does > not endorse any specific products/services/vendors and any information > shared should not be considered as such. > > > On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 8:25 PM Victoria Ch?vez > wrote: > > > Personally I always enable automatic captions on zoom and I always > request > > them when I see the option. I know they are not perfect and especially > when > > folks with non-US accents speak it does a very poor job but if an org > > doesn't have the resources to invest in CART, I think it's much better > than > > nothing. Otter.ai does a really great job of captioning and when you pay > > for the subscription you can actually add your own dictionary so it does > a > > much better job of picking up names and any very specific terminology > that > > you may be using as long as it's in the dictionary. > > > > On Thu, May 5, 2022, 16:17 Tiffany Kennell < > tiffany.kennell@chemeketa.edu> > > wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> We are having conversations on campus about the pros and cons of > >> automatic captions. I would like to hear from you- is your school using > >> automatic captions on a regular basis, or automatic transcripts for > remote > >> classes or events? What do you think about automatic captions? 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I have a student who is sighted, but cannot use a screen due to migraines and needs to learn VoiceOver quickly. Robin Cole | she/her | Alternate Format & Assistive Technology Manager OAE | CONNECT | Office of Accessible Education Stanford University - 563 Salvatierra Walk - Stanford, CA 94305 650-723-0942 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Thu May 12 18:24:38 2022 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Thu May 12 18:24:43 2022 Subject: [Athen] VoiceOver training In-Reply-To: <5A26261B-1BC8-452E-A0D7-BD642D2F3749@contoso.com> References: <5A26261B-1BC8-452E-A0D7-BD642D2F3749@contoso.com> Message-ID: <7F159770-0F09-47D2-9BC6-79A205D29413@gmail.com> I?ve never had a student with migraines or a concussion I needed to go full screen reader with. Have you had them use the smart invert to set up a text on the screen so it?s white and black? Usually between that and using the text to speech tools for reading it gets them by. Plus most students I?ve met with that have difficulty with screen time and headaches or migraines also have difficulty when they?re experiencing those headaches with sound. When they start getting the headaches they just need to take a break for a while. Jeff Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation feature. > On May 12, 2022, at 8:43 PM, Robin Cole wrote: > > ? > Does anyone have any VoiceOver for MacOS resources that you have used successfully with students? I have a student who is sighted, but cannot use a screen due to migraines and needs to learn VoiceOver quickly. > > > Robin Cole | she/her | Alternate Format & Assistive Technology Manager > OAE | CONNECT | Office of Accessible Education > Stanford University - 563 Salvatierra Walk - Stanford, CA 94305 > 650-723-0942 > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hkramer at ahead.org Thu May 12 18:48:41 2022 From: hkramer at ahead.org (Howard Kramer) Date: Thu May 12 18:49:20 2022 Subject: [Athen] Looking for person who could advise on creating an open source code community In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Lucy. I'll contact Mike. -Howard On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 5:13 PM Lucy GRECO wrote: > hi: i would check in with Mike Gifford and see if > he could help lucy > > > Berkeley IT > > Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist > > Campus IT Experience > Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | > https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces > > We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 9:51 AM Howard Kramer wrote: > >> Hello All: >> >> A colleague of mine is looking for someone who could advise on creating >> an open source code community. This would involve PhET: Free online >> physics, chemistry, biology, earth science and math simulations and a plan >> to develop more of an open source community around PhET?s codebase. >> >> If you're interested or know of someone, please let me know. >> -- >> Regards, >> Howard >> >> Howard Kramer >> Conference Coordinator >> Accessing Higher Ground >> 303-492-8672 >> cell: 720-351-8668 >> >> Sign up to access the recordings from the *2020 Accessing Higher >> Ground Conference >> * and >> for AHG 2021 'Watch Parties >> .' >> >> >> Sign up to our mailing list to receive announcements >> . >> >> >> >> Complete program information and registration is open for AHEAD's full >> line-up of Spring 2021 webinars >> >> . >> >> >> >> Not yet a member of AHEAD? *We welcome you to join AHEAD now. >> * >> >> _______________________________________________ >> athen-list mailing list >> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >> > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Regards, Howard Howard Kramer Conference Coordinator Accessing Higher Ground 303-492-8672 cell: 720-351-8668 Sign up to access the recordings from the *2020 Accessing Higher Ground Conference * and for AHG 2021 'Watch Parties .' 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Thanks for your insight, NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 - Note: Working remotely, off-campus, until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services Accessibility and Inclusion are shared institutional responsibilities. #ally #highered #inclusion Confidential - Do Not Copy or Distribute: This message may contain confidential information. It is intended only for the individuals(s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this email in error) please notify the sender immediately. This message may also be legally privileged. If you are not the named addressee(s), you must delete this email immediately. Do not disseminate, distribute, or copy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glen.walker at gmail.com Fri May 13 10:51:08 2022 From: glen.walker at gmail.com (glen walker) Date: Fri May 13 10:51:27 2022 Subject: [Athen] VPAT? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It'd be nice if, when comparing multiple VPATs, you could get a "score" and then just choose the highest score but it doesn't work like that. You could potentially tally up the number of "supports", "partially supports" and "does not support" values and maybe create a score. But a VPAT with a lot of "partially supports" might actually be more accessible than a product with a lot of "supports" if the latter also has a lot of "does not support". The "not applicable" values should count against a product. With a WCAG 2.1 VPAT/ACR, you should have 30 rows in the A table and 20 rows in the AA tables (50 combined). Suppose the VPAT has 25 "supports", 15 "partially supports", 7 "does not support", and 3 "not applicable". Is that a 50% score? 25 "supports" out of a total of 50? The "partially supports" should also help the "score". It's a tough call. Ideally, the product with the most "supports" and "partially supports" should win. But you might have to evaluate the "does not support" items. It could be that the parts that aren't supported are in a part of the product that you won't be using, so the fact that it doesn't work doesn't matter. Sometimes you have to pick the product that is "least worst". That is, all the VPATs could be bad but if that's all you have to choose from, try to use the one that sucks the least. But hopefully if that happens, you have the option of choosing none of them and doing more research for other products. Glen https://www.linkedin.com/in/glen-walker/ On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 11:08 AM Normajean.Brand wrote: > Hello All, and good Friday! > > > > When looking at a VPAT (and I?m not sure I?m even asking the question > correctly), what would be the baseline of acceptable accessibility ? 75%, > 85%, or something else ? as to whether your college would accept and vet a > product for use? I know we would all like for products to be 100% > accessible, but what is your baseline? > > > > I hope this makes sense, because I was asked by an academic department > looking at procuring new software, what would be acceptable. > > > > Thanks for your insight, > > NJ > > > > *NJ Brand, **BAAS-Psych, **ATAC* > > (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This > > *ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician*, Center for Learning Innovation > ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, > off-campus, until further notice > > ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS > ? 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Click Options directly after Speak Selection" to set options, i.e. highlight Word, Sentence, Word and Sentences and set highlight color. Set shortcut key. To read more about this feature, go to: https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/mac-help/mh27448/mac I hope this helps. Have a great weekend everyone, Russell From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robin Cole Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 6:43 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] VoiceOver training You don't often get email from rlcole@stanford.edu. Learn why this is important EXTERNAL: Use caution. Does anyone have any VoiceOver for MacOS resources that you have used successfully with students? I have a student who is sighted, but cannot use a screen due to migraines and needs to learn VoiceOver quickly. 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Respectfully, Jeanna Turay Office of Student Success College of Adult and Graduate Studies Colorado Christian University online.ccu.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 11:08 AM To: ATHEN Subject: [EXTERNAL EMAIL] [Athen] VPAT? WARNING: This email is from outside CCU. Do not click any link and do not open attachments unless you can verify the sender. Please report any possible suspicious emails by clicking on the ?Report Phish? button on the email?s menu bar. Hello All, and good Friday! When looking at a VPAT (and I?m not sure I?m even asking the question correctly), what would be the baseline of acceptable accessibility - 75%, 85%, or something else - as to whether your college would accept and vet a product for use? I know we would all like for products to be 100% accessible, but what is your baseline? I hope this makes sense, because I was asked by an academic department looking at procuring new software, what would be acceptable. 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It'd be nice if, when comparing multiple VPATs, you could get a "score" and then just choose the highest score but it doesn't work like that. You could potentially tally up the number of "supports", "partially supports" and "does not support" values and maybe create a score. But a VPAT with a lot of "partially supports" might actually be more accessible than a product with a lot of "supports" if the latter also has a lot of "does not support". The "not applicable" values should count against a product. With a WCAG 2.1 VPAT/ACR, you should have 30 rows in the A table and 20 rows in the AA tables (50 combined). Suppose the VPAT has 25 "supports", 15 "partially supports", 7 "does not support", and 3 "not applicable". Is that a 50% score? 25 "supports" out of a total of 50? The "partially supports" should also help the "score". It's a tough call. Ideally, the product with the most "supports" and "partially supports" should win. But you might have to evaluate the "does not support" items. It could be that the parts that aren't supported are in a part of the product that you won't be using, so the fact that it doesn't work doesn't matter. Sometimes you have to pick the product that is "least worst". That is, all the VPATs could be bad but if that's all you have to choose from, try to use the one that sucks the least. But hopefully if that happens, you have the option of choosing none of them and doing more research for other products. Glen https://www.linkedin.com/in/glen-walker/ On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 11:08 AM Normajean.Brand > wrote: Hello All, and good Friday! When looking at a VPAT (and I?m not sure I?m even asking the question correctly), what would be the baseline of acceptable accessibility ? 75%, 85%, or something else ? as to whether your college would accept and vet a product for use? I know we would all like for products to be 100% accessible, but what is your baseline? I hope this makes sense, because I was asked by an academic department looking at procuring new software, what would be acceptable. Thanks for your insight, NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, off-campus, until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services Accessibility and Inclusion are shared institutional responsibilities. #ally #highered #inclusion Confidential - Do Not Copy or Distribute: This message may contain confidential information. It is intended only for the individuals(s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this email in error) please notify the sender immediately. This message may also be legally privileged. If you are not the named addressee(s), you must delete this email immediately. 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I once reviewed some audio editing software where the VPAT admitted there was no support for captions and audio descriptions. Since the lab using that software was literally only for sound quality improvement, that was okay. Moreover, the lack of support for deaf and hard of hearing issues was deemed less critical given the need for hearing for the job. * And while I applaud the optimism of the 100% accessible, they are in for a harsh reality. Although products are improving a lot a in recent years, I don?t think I?ve ever seen a 100% WCAG 2 AA compliant application. And that?s just compliance. WCAG has a huge support gap when it comes to a lot of cognitive disabilities. Katherine ?Kate? Deibel, PhD Library Accessibility Specialist Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky From: athen-list On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 4:08 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] VPAT? Thank you, Glen! And Jeanna! This. This is what I?m trying to teach the faculty and others, including procurement, about VPATs. It?s not a ?score? or ?percentage?. It seems we have a newly enthusiastic procurement person who is now team 100% accessible or we don?t use it. I applaud the enthusiasm though. Sometimes I?m battling a department that just won?t budge on their choice of product. I appreciate your thoughts, wisdom, and help. This is above my paygrade but if asked I?m chiming in ? because accessibility and usability matters to everyone. Thanks! Have a wonderful weekend, NJ From: athen-list > On Behalf Of glen walker Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 12:51 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] VPAT? It'd be nice if, when comparing multiple VPATs, you could get a "score" and then just choose the highest score but it doesn't work like that. You could potentially tally up the number of "supports", "partially supports" and "does not support" values and maybe create a score. But a VPAT with a lot of "partially supports" might actually be more accessible than a product with a lot of "supports" if the latter also has a lot of "does not support". The "not applicable" values should count against a product. With a WCAG 2.1 VPAT/ACR, you should have 30 rows in the A table and 20 rows in the AA tables (50 combined). Suppose the VPAT has 25 "supports", 15 "partially supports", 7 "does not support", and 3 "not applicable". Is that a 50% score? 25 "supports" out of a total of 50? The "partially supports" should also help the "score". It's a tough call. Ideally, the product with the most "supports" and "partially supports" should win. But you might have to evaluate the "does not support" items. It could be that the parts that aren't supported are in a part of the product that you won't be using, so the fact that it doesn't work doesn't matter. Sometimes you have to pick the product that is "least worst". That is, all the VPATs could be bad but if that's all you have to choose from, try to use the one that sucks the least. But hopefully if that happens, you have the option of choosing none of them and doing more research for other products. Glen https://www.linkedin.com/in/glen-walker/ On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 11:08 AM Normajean.Brand > wrote: Hello All, and good Friday! When looking at a VPAT (and I?m not sure I?m even asking the question correctly), what would be the baseline of acceptable accessibility ? 75%, 85%, or something else ? as to whether your college would accept and vet a product for use? I know we would all like for products to be 100% accessible, but what is your baseline? I hope this makes sense, because I was asked by an academic department looking at procuring new software, what would be acceptable. Thanks for your insight, NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, off-campus, until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services Accessibility and Inclusion are shared institutional responsibilities. #ally #highered #inclusion Confidential - Do Not Copy or Distribute: This message may contain confidential information. It is intended only for the individuals(s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this email in error) please notify the sender immediately. This message may also be legally privileged. If you are not the named addressee(s), you must delete this email immediately. 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A very common scenario is having say two VPATs (ACRs) - one says "Conforms" for all success criterion (and has no supporting comments), while another (honestly) reports varying conformance levels and details various barriers that exist in their solution. Which product would you choose? At face value, the one that purports to have 100% conformance would be the "winner." Is that likely to be true in the real world? Not at all. So, then, what to do? It depends. Usually, to get any real sense of conformance levels - you need to go beyond simply accepting what is written in a VPAT (ACR) by doing one or more of the following activities: * Have a scripted demos (where you ask the vendor to demo critical functionality using assistive technology, and/or keyboard-only use) * Perform your own hand-on testing (e.g., get a sandbox, test drive the solution) * Have a vendor provide accessibility conformance testing results (optimally performed by a reputable, neutral, 3rd party vendor) * Ask the vendor to substantiate their claims of conforms by providing detailed responses that will show whether they do (or do not) understand the criterion involved * Reach out to accessibility experts (e.g., via places like this Listserv) to see if anyone can share real-world experience/knowledge about the solutions' actual level of conformance * Ask questions about the company's accessibility testing processes/accessibility training for developers, etc. Best, Tom Siechert, CPWA CSU Stanislaus ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Normajean.Brand Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 1:08 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] VPAT? Thank you, Glen! And Jeanna! This. This is what I?m trying to teach the faculty and others, including procurement, about VPATs. It?s not a ?score? or ?percentage?. It seems we have a newly enthusiastic procurement person who is now team 100% accessible or we don?t use it. I applaud the enthusiasm though. Sometimes I?m battling a department that just won?t budge on their choice of product. I appreciate your thoughts, wisdom, and help. This is above my paygrade but if asked I?m chiming in ? because accessibility and usability matters to everyone. Thanks! Have a wonderful weekend, NJ From: athen-list On Behalf Of glen walker Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 12:51 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] VPAT? It'd be nice if, when comparing multiple VPATs, you could get a "score" and then just choose the highest score but it doesn't work like that. You could potentially tally up the number of "supports", "partially supports" and "does not support" values and maybe create a score. But a VPAT with a lot of "partially supports" might actually be more accessible than a product with a lot of "supports" if the latter also has a lot of "does not support". The "not applicable" values should count against a product. With a WCAG 2.1 VPAT/ACR, you should have 30 rows in the A table and 20 rows in the AA tables (50 combined). Suppose the VPAT has 25 "supports", 15 "partially supports", 7 "does not support", and 3 "not applicable". Is that a 50% score? 25 "supports" out of a total of 50? The "partially supports" should also help the "score". It's a tough call. Ideally, the product with the most "supports" and "partially supports" should win. But you might have to evaluate the "does not support" items. It could be that the parts that aren't supported are in a part of the product that you won't be using, so the fact that it doesn't work doesn't matter. Sometimes you have to pick the product that is "least worst". That is, all the VPATs could be bad but if that's all you have to choose from, try to use the one that sucks the least. But hopefully if that happens, you have the option of choosing none of them and doing more research for other products. Glen https://www.linkedin.com/in/glen-walker/ On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 11:08 AM Normajean.Brand > wrote: Hello All, and good Friday! When looking at a VPAT (and I?m not sure I?m even asking the question correctly), what would be the baseline of acceptable accessibility ? 75%, 85%, or something else ? as to whether your college would accept and vet a product for use? I know we would all like for products to be 100% accessible, but what is your baseline? I hope this makes sense, because I was asked by an academic department looking at procuring new software, what would be acceptable. Thanks for your insight, NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 ? Note: Working remotely, off-campus, until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services Accessibility and Inclusion are shared institutional responsibilities. #ally #highered #inclusion Confidential - Do Not Copy or Distribute: This message may contain confidential information. It is intended only for the individuals(s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this email in error) please notify the sender immediately. This message may also be legally privileged. If you are not the named addressee(s), you must delete this email immediately. 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Nor was I allowed access to the product to test with assistive tech. NJ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Tom Siechert Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 3:26 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] VPAT? The other fundamental thing to keep in mind when reviewing any VPAT (ACR) is the validity of the reported conformance levels. If the person(s) completing the VPAT (ACR) do not have the appropriate skills and expertise, then what is reported is mostly, if not entirely, meaningless. Also, vendors all too often have an incentive to not be entirely truthful, as accurately reporting status levels may put them at a competitive disadvantage (e.g. in a Procurement bidding / scoring process.) A very common scenario is having say two VPATs (ACRs) - one says "Conforms" for all success criterion (and has no supporting comments), while another (honestly) reports varying conformance levels and details various barriers that exist in their solution. Which product would you choose? At face value, the one that purports to have 100% conformance would be the "winner." Is that likely to be true in the real world? Not at all. So, then, what to do? It depends. Usually, to get any real sense of conformance levels - you need to go beyond simply accepting what is written in a VPAT (ACR) by doing one or more of the following activities: * Have a scripted demos (where you ask the vendor to demo critical functionality using assistive technology, and/or keyboard-only use) * Perform your own hand-on testing (e.g., get a sandbox, test drive the solution) * Have a vendor provide accessibility conformance testing results (optimally performed by a reputable, neutral, 3rd party vendor) * Ask the vendor to substantiate their claims of conforms by providing detailed responses that will show whether they do (or do not) understand the criterion involved * Reach out to accessibility experts (e.g., via places like this Listserv) to see if anyone can share real-world experience/knowledge about the solutions' actual level of conformance * Ask questions about the company's accessibility testing processes/accessibility training for developers, etc. Best, Tom Siechert, CPWA CSU Stanislaus ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Normajean.Brand > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 1:08 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] VPAT? Thank you, Glen! And Jeanna! This. This is what I?m trying to teach the faculty and others, including procurement, about VPATs. It?s not a ?score? or ?percentage?. It seems we have a newly enthusiastic procurement person who is now team 100% accessible or we don?t use it. I applaud the enthusiasm though. Sometimes I?m battling a department that just won?t budge on their choice of product. I appreciate your thoughts, wisdom, and help. This is above my paygrade but if asked I?m chiming in ? because accessibility and usability matters to everyone. Thanks! Have a wonderful weekend, NJ From: athen-list > On Behalf Of glen walker Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 12:51 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] VPAT? It'd be nice if, when comparing multiple VPATs, you could get a "score" and then just choose the highest score but it doesn't work like that. You could potentially tally up the number of "supports", "partially supports" and "does not support" values and maybe create a score. But a VPAT with a lot of "partially supports" might actually be more accessible than a product with a lot of "supports" if the latter also has a lot of "does not support". The "not applicable" values should count against a product. With a WCAG 2.1 VPAT/ACR, you should have 30 rows in the A table and 20 rows in the AA tables (50 combined). Suppose the VPAT has 25 "supports", 15 "partially supports", 7 "does not support", and 3 "not applicable". Is that a 50% score? 25 "supports" out of a total of 50? The "partially supports" should also help the "score". It's a tough call. Ideally, the product with the most "supports" and "partially supports" should win. But you might have to evaluate the "does not support" items. It could be that the parts that aren't supported are in a part of the product that you won't be using, so the fact that it doesn't work doesn't matter. Sometimes you have to pick the product that is "least worst". That is, all the VPATs could be bad but if that's all you have to choose from, try to use the one that sucks the least. But hopefully if that happens, you have the option of choosing none of them and doing more research for other products. Glen https://www.linkedin.com/in/glen-walker/ On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 11:08 AM Normajean.Brand > wrote: Hello All, and good Friday! When looking at a VPAT (and I?m not sure I?m even asking the question correctly), what would be the baseline of acceptable accessibility - 75%, 85%, or something else - as to whether your college would accept and vet a product for use? I know we would all like for products to be 100% accessible, but what is your baseline? I hope this makes sense, because I was asked by an academic department looking at procuring new software, what would be acceptable. Thanks for your insight, NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? Spring Branch Campus ? Suite RC12/13 - Note: Working remotely, off-campus, until further notice ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services Accessibility and Inclusion are shared institutional responsibilities. #ally #highered #inclusion Confidential - Do Not Copy or Distribute: This message may contain confidential information. It is intended only for the individuals(s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this email in error) please notify the sender immediately. This message may also be legally privileged. If you are not the named addressee(s), you must delete this email immediately. 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Other support includes, but is not limited to, referrals to campus resources, academic coaching, and assisting students with developing problem-solving strategies. This position acts as an advocate for students with disabilities to ensure they are afforded an equal opportunity to benefit from, and participate in, any program sponsored by the university. As part of the SDC professional staff this position encompasses the role of liaison, active consultant, and representative of the office to other entities on and off campus as well as an active team member with the office and within the CSU community. For full consideration application materials must be submitted by 5/30/2022 at 11:59 p.m. MST. For full details please visit https://jobs.colostate.edu/postings/104416 CSU?is an EO/EA/AA employer and conducts background checks on all final candidates. Allison Swanson AT-IT Coordinator & Accessibility Facilitator [CBS8mbI0AM8N0XtHecA+I5472edEflZ8LcRRyQi8d+OSOKIRCQegUjiiEQkHoFI4ohEJCKEyP8D+cillr8apMoAAAAASUVORK5CYII=] 308 Occupational Therapy Building 970-491-0625 allison.r.swanson@colostate.edu Assistive Technology Resource Center Accessibility By Design -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 12262 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From normajean.brand at hccs.edu Fri May 13 13:51:35 2022 From: normajean.brand at hccs.edu (Normajean.Brand) Date: Fri May 13 13:51:57 2022 Subject: [Athen] VPAT? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, Katherine! When I?ve been asked to evaluate a product, and actually received a VPAT to look at, tested/spot-checked, and found the product to be supported or not, and level A or AA, I ask * Who is going to be using it? * for how long * is there another product that could satisfy the needs of all users present and future, not just a few users? * how will the department address any areas that are not accessible? * how will they ensure a student or employee can work, with or without accommodations, independently and not have someone else do the work for them? Those aren?t the only questions I?ve learned to ask but it?s a start, and hopefully a meaningful conversation with the requestor. Thank you for your input and insights, Katherine! Gratitude for this community! NJ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Katherine Deibel Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 3:24 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] VPAT? I?ll just add a few things. * It?s always worth it to spot check even the ?fully supports? items. I wish I could say I?ve not experienced incorrectly filled out VPATs, but the reality is that more than half had such errors. Sometimes, the people filling out the VPAT don?t know how to do the proper testing. Other times, I suspect deliberate lying. * In terms of weighting the VPAT entries, I always put heavier weights on the level A elements. If those are missing, the fundamentals are going to be lacking. * It?s always important to consider the contextual factors. Sometimes, the software is for a niche purpose. I once reviewed some audio editing software where the VPAT admitted there was no support for captions and audio descriptions. Since the lab using that software was literally only for sound quality improvement, that was okay. Moreover, the lack of support for deaf and hard of hearing issues was deemed less critical given the need for hearing for the job. * And while I applaud the optimism of the 100% accessible, they are in for a harsh reality. Although products are improving a lot a in recent years, I don?t think I?ve ever seen a 100% WCAG 2 AA compliant application. And that?s just compliance. WCAG has a huge support gap when it comes to a lot of cognitive disabilities. Katherine ?Kate? Deibel, PhD Library Accessibility Specialist Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 4:08 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] VPAT? Thank you, Glen! And Jeanna! This. This is what I?m trying to teach the faculty and others, including procurement, about VPATs. It?s not a ?score? or ?percentage?. It seems we have a newly enthusiastic procurement person who is now team 100% accessible or we don?t use it. I applaud the enthusiasm though. Sometimes I?m battling a department that just won?t budge on their choice of product. I appreciate your thoughts, wisdom, and help. This is above my paygrade but if asked I?m chiming in ? because accessibility and usability matters to everyone. Thanks! Have a wonderful weekend, NJ From: athen-list > On Behalf Of glen walker Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 12:51 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] VPAT? It'd be nice if, when comparing multiple VPATs, you could get a "score" and then just choose the highest score but it doesn't work like that. You could potentially tally up the number of "supports", "partially supports" and "does not support" values and maybe create a score. But a VPAT with a lot of "partially supports" might actually be more accessible than a product with a lot of "supports" if the latter also has a lot of "does not support". The "not applicable" values should count against a product. With a WCAG 2.1 VPAT/ACR, you should have 30 rows in the A table and 20 rows in the AA tables (50 combined). Suppose the VPAT has 25 "supports", 15 "partially supports", 7 "does not support", and 3 "not applicable". Is that a 50% score? 25 "supports" out of a total of 50? The "partially supports" should also help the "score". It's a tough call. Ideally, the product with the most "supports" and "partially supports" should win. But you might have to evaluate the "does not support" items. It could be that the parts that aren't supported are in a part of the product that you won't be using, so the fact that it doesn't work doesn't matter. Sometimes you have to pick the product that is "least worst". That is, all the VPATs could be bad but if that's all you have to choose from, try to use the one that sucks the least. But hopefully if that happens, you have the option of choosing none of them and doing more research for other products. Glen https://www.linkedin.com/in/glen-walker/ On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 11:08 AM Normajean.Brand > wrote: Hello All, and good Friday! When looking at a VPAT (and I?m not sure I?m even asking the question correctly), what would be the baseline of acceptable accessibility ? 75%, 85%, or something else ? as to whether your college would accept and vet a product for use? I know we would all like for products to be 100% accessible, but what is your baseline? I hope this makes sense, because I was asked by an academic department looking at procuring new software, what would be acceptable. Thanks for your insight, NJ NJ Brand, BAAS-Psych, ATAC (she/her/hers) <--- What Is This ADA Tech/Assistive Technology Technician, Center for Learning Innovation ? 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The good: * Easy to use for a one person disability office. * AI which gamifies quizzes called Word Challenge. * Instructors will be given control of the game questions in near future. * Built in accommodations for instructors/disability offices. * Integration into Canvas (imports documents from ?files?). * Web based or mobile app (iOS only). * Multiple voices! * Translate words into native language (for international students). * Accommodates retention students automatically. * Accommodates EOP students automatically. * Accommodates non-reporting dyslexic students automatically. * Integrates a secured browser instead of a proctoring service. * Universal design, inclusive classrooms, and helps reduce ableism. The bad: * CaptiVoice importing of documents is absolute. You can not alter what you?ve imported or what it has done to OCR the content. * Sometimes reads periods as ?dot?. * See images with text in it? Yep, that?s most likely going to be read aloud. * Similar to Kurzweil issues. * The highlights of words on PDF?s is a little broken. * Parsing of text is broken * No offline support (with exception of iOS devices) * No Android app * No math support For reading course content, where I?m not needing to edit, I like using Capti (or Kurzweil). When reading and editing content, I like to use other TTS software like Read&Write or ClaroRead. Each have small differences that I take advantage of in different cases. Sometimes I?ll use the ClaroRead OCR for content I want from readings, importing that into Capti. I can also submit it through SensusAccess to be converted to DOCX, where I remove the content I don?t want read aloud before importing into Capti. Christina, reach out to me offline. I can help you with that issue, it?s one of the items I?m discussing with them now. (NO UPGRADES OR UPDATES DURING AN ACADEMIC YEAR). Yevgen (Capti) is very open to roll backs or making adjustments as needed. Best, Joshua Hori Accessible Technology Coordinator University of California, Davis Information Education Technology Academic Technology Services 50 Hutchinson Davis, CA 95616 jhori@ucdavis.edu From: athen-list on behalf of Wulf, Christina - wulfcx Date: Friday, May 6, 2022 at 5:41 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] Any Capti campuses out there? Regarding Capti: We are not a "Capti school" per se, but my office provides individual Capti accounts to students with accommodations for alternative formats. Capti has some downsides (what program doesn't?), but overall we've been very pleased, and it offers a lot of independence, organizational support, and control to students. These elements have been particularly useful: *Having an individual Capti account allows students to keep all their readings in their Capti "library." We can upload book files to our Capti admin account & give students immediate access. (They don't have to come into our office & pick a USB or fiddle around with file exchanges). The books just appear in their library. *Students can independently upload a variety of formats from various sources to their Capti library. They log in from the web--no additional software required. *Capti's mobile app is quite good & easy to use. Students can access everything in their library & much of Capti's web functionality. *Control of the adaptable display appearance is terrific -- good enlargement capabilities, color options, font, text display (such as showing just a few lines at a time), etc. *We can't view the content that students upload to their own accounts, so they have some privacy. But we can tell the last time a student logged in, which is helpful for suspending accounts that aren't in use. *Easy integration with Bookshare. This is a big plus for us. Students can independently download from Bookshare into their personal Capti library & then manipulate appearance, voice/speed, etc. as needed. *An individual account is extremely affordable ($29.99/year for premium version), so it's quite feasible for a student to purchase & continue using Capti after graduation. I think this is very important. *Handy notetaking/study tools. In my experience, the students who use these tools LOVE these tools. All that said, we just purchased several stand-alone Read&Write licenses because there are things it can do that Capti can't. One negative about Capti. They redesign the layout and organization of the program with far too much frequency, sometimes making unannounced changes or hiding crucial tools and doing away with useful methods of organizing content. It's really frustrating (really, really, really frustrating). They launched the last big revision last August (yes, August) without updating their own training materials to reflect the changes. If any of you are in discussion with Capti about purchasing their product, maybe you could mention this concern. Some of the changes they made are fabulous -- like adding dictation tools -- but some changes seem arbitrary and undermine the useability of the product (imho). That said, their tech support folks are wonderful, and they have been responsive to fixing some of these problems. I hope that's helpful! Christina Christina Wulf, MA CPACC | she/her Assistant Director, ODS Coordinator, Accessible Media & Technology ODS number: (540) 568-6705 Home office: (540) 324-3396 wulfcx@jmu.edu Office of Disability Services James Madison University Facebook | Instagram | Twitter ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 3:01 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 196, Issue 3 CAUTION: This email originated from outside of JMU. 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(Karen Latimer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 10:25:51 -0400 From: Karen Latimer To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Any Capti campuses out there? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi all, I would suggest that you carefully analyze the features of both. In my opinion, they have significantly different features. Especially when it comes to writing support (CAPTI doesn't have any). It may be helpful to make a list of the features that your students are using/or what support you WANT them to use, and then look to see which product best fits your needs. K On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 7:16 PM Romack, Justin wrote: > I?m very interested in seeing replies to this. Please post to list, if you > would. > > > > We, like many, have been evaluating other options aside from Read&Write. > Our license agreement jumped in price quite radically this year, and while > we have renewed through 2024, we?ll continue to explore other options to > see if there?s a better fit financially without sacrificing the ease of use > and flexibility offered by R&W. > > > > What I like about R&W is that it can be used just about anywhere with the > click of a button. Many solutions we?ve tested require users to upload or > open their media in the reading solution itself and this extra step seems > unnecessary. There?s a lot to be said about the simplicity and versatility > of R&W. > > > > I?m eager to hear of other campuses who have looked into Capti or are > using it with their students. > > > > Thanks y?all! > > > > Be well, > > J > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > *Justin Romack* | Assistive Technology Coordinator > > Disability Resources | Texas A&M University > > 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 > > > > ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > *DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS *| One Division. One Mission. > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman > *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2022 10:03 AM > *To:* athen-list@u.washington.edu > *Subject:* [Athen] Any Capti campuses out there? > > > > We are considering a shift from Read&Write to Capti. I?d love to hear from > those of you who currently have a Capti license. How is it going for you? > Anything you particularly like or don?t like about it? If you use the > secure > > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > > *This Message Is From an External Sender * > > This message came from outside your organization. > > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > > We are considering a shift from Read&Write to Capti. I?d love to hear from > those of you who currently have a Capti license. How is it going for you? > Anything you particularly like or don?t like about it? If you use the > secure exam feature, I?d love to hear about that too. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jeremy Zhe-Heimerman (he, him, his) > Assistant Director, Disability Resources > SUNY Cortland > Memorial Library, Room B-204 > P.O. 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The rest is signature/quote.) [image: Austin Community College District Logo] Sean Loraas (he/his/him) Accessibility Technician Alternative Text and Media Student Affairs Eastview Campus Office: 2140 Email: sloraas@austincc.edu ?The Mind is Everything. What You Think, You Become.? ? Siddhartha Gautama -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Tue May 24 18:41:28 2022 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Tue May 24 18:41:32 2022 Subject: [Athen] Japanese Language Course accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Did intro to Japanese courses for a student around 11 or 12 years ago. You can probably find postings about it in the Athan archive. I can send you some more information about it when I get in the office tomorrow. Jeff Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation feature. > On May 24, 2022, at 8:49 PM, Sean Loraas wrote: > > ? > Greetings Colleagues, > I'm in need of some of your knowledge and expertise in providing accessible materials (Screen reader accessible) for a student in a beginning Japanese course. Does anyone have experience remediating mixed English/Japanese language material for screen reader access (student prefers using VO on an iPhone)? Much of the Japanese content is image based and not proper Japanese characters. If anyone is aware of document remediation services that can produce mixed language English/Japanese documents in screen reader accessible formats, I'd be grateful. Or if anyone has experience remediating such materials, that could provide some guidance for workflows, that would be very helpful. Thank you all in advance for your help. Stay safe! Respectfully, Sean Loraas (EOM. The rest is signature/quote.) > > Sean Loraas (he/his/him) > Accessibility Technician > Alternative Text and Media > Student Affairs > Eastview Campus > Office: 2140 > Email: sloraas@austincc.edu > > ?The Mind is Everything. > What You Think, You Become.? ? Siddhartha Gautama > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreydell99 at gmail.com Wed May 25 06:38:47 2022 From: jeffreydell99 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Dell) Date: Wed May 25 06:39:58 2022 Subject: [Athen] Japanese Language Course accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For the materials What we did was we ran OCR on the textbook to get the basic text. We purchased an Eastern Asian version of Iris for recognizing Japanese but we ended up not using it. We grabbed the English text and then had a student who was from Japan type in the Japanese characters. You can setup the computer to recognize romanji and convert it to Hiragana or Katakana. There is also an IME selection tool for inputing Kanji. I think I spelled those right. You may need help from your Japanese instructor to understand the language better. It is nothing like English. Beginning language textbooks are complex in the way that they use tables and switch languages on a dime. You are better off using formats for materials which you can set language on a character by character basis like Word. Some Japanese courses use Romanji which is a romanized character set for the japanese words. It is easier for students to learn and read. Some programs use the actual character sets for Japanese characters and have a strong writing component for learning the words. For this the student would either need to use tactile graphics or use the keyboard to type the words. They can also use Tenji which is a Japanese character set for Braille. I am attaching the tables I created for the Hiragana chacters for the language for if your student uses Braille. They have the Hiragana character, english in print, English Braille, and Tenji Braille in the table. You need to have the Duxbury Braille font to see the Braille correctly. VoiceOver also has a Braille table for Japanese. I have not tried it. My student was using the Japanese localization of JAWS on PC at that time. I was just using VoiceOver on my phone to read characters off of my phone. I don't know enough of Japanese myself to tell you if it was reading words correctly but it was reading the Hiragana characters correctly. The student will likely need to turn down the speech rate for Japanese because it reads the syllables so fast that it is unintelligible at the speech rates we use for English. You can also add keyboards for Japanese to your list of keyboards. I just used this and it auto switched languages to read the characters on the keyboard. This also would need to be tested more thoroughly with the Japanese instructor. The student I worked with had to type some Kanji, which are whole words in one character. For this they would need to start typing the word using Romanji and Hiragana and then select the Kanji character. There are many homophones and I am not sure if it gives the correct contextual details for selecting the character in iOS. In Windows when using the IME character selection with the Japanese Localization of JAWS it gave additional context so you would know you are selecting the correct character. It is very complex but can be a lot of fun to work with the student on how they will take this class. There are also plenty of opportunities to get creative with the accommodations for a class like that. Hopefully that is helpful in getting you started. Best regards, Jeff On 5/24/22, Jeffrey Dell wrote: > Did intro to Japanese courses for a student around 11 or 12 years ago. You > can probably find postings about it in the Athan archive. I can send you > some more information about it when I get in the office tomorrow. > Jeff > > Sent from my iPhone. please excuse errors from using Apple's dictation > feature. > >> On May 24, 2022, at 8:49 PM, Sean Loraas wrote: >> >> ? >> Greetings Colleagues, >> I'm in need of some of your knowledge and expertise in providing >> accessible materials (Screen reader accessible) for a student in a >> beginning Japanese course. Does anyone have experience remediating mixed >> English/Japanese language material for screen reader access (student >> prefers using VO on an iPhone)? Much of the Japanese content is image >> based and not proper Japanese characters. 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This added the following 3 items that were not there previously: 1. http://www.aiim.org/pdfua/ns/id 2. Dublin Core Properties (dc, http://purl.org.dc/elements/1.1/) 3. http://www.aiim.org/pdfa/ns/extension/ PAC3 verified that the PDF/UA Identifier was set. I then deleted http://www.aiim.org/pdfua/ns/id. PAC3 verified that the PDF/UA Identifier was no longer set. I then deleted http://www.aiim.org/pdfa/ns/extension/, which made no different that I can tell. I was not able to delete the Dublin Core Properties, but again this didn't seem to make any difference. Hopefully, that should give you enough information to fix your document. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd -----Original Message----- From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of Karen McCall Sent: 25 May 2022 15:14 To: webaim-forum@list.webaim.org Cc: ATHEN Subject: [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC Morning Everyone! I have a PDF from a scanned image that I cannot make accessible and someone has put the PDF/UA identifier on it. How do I remove the PDF/UA identifier from a PDF document? I can't find any information on how to do this online. Thanks in advance for your help! Cheers, Karen _______________________________________________ To manage your subscription, visit http://list.webaim.org/ List archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org From lsnider at gmail.com Wed May 25 08:10:45 2022 From: lsnider at gmail.com (L Snider) Date: Wed May 25 08:11:00 2022 Subject: [Athen] [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had to do this a couple of times a year or so ago. I went into Acrobat Pro, Properties, Additional Metadata and then I deleted the PDF/UA entry and saved it and it gets rid of the PDF/UA identifier. That is the only way I could do it. Cheers Lisa On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:14 AM Karen McCall wrote: > Morning Everyone! > > I have a PDF from a scanned image that I cannot make accessible and > someone has put the PDF/UA identifier on it. How do I remove the PDF/UA > identifier from a PDF document? > > I can't find any information on how to do this online. > > Thanks in advance for your help! > > Cheers, Karen > _______________________________________________ > To manage your subscription, visit http://list.webaim.org/ > List archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives > Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From K4mccall at outlook.com Wed May 25 09:16:41 2022 From: K4mccall at outlook.com (Karen McCall) Date: Wed May 25 09:16:46 2022 Subject: [Athen] [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks everyone! That worked! I seldom go into those property areas and forget they exist. Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of L Snider Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 11:11 AM To: WebAIM Discussion List Cc: ATHEN Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC I had to do this a couple of times a year or so ago. I went into Acrobat Pro, Properties, Additional Metadata and then I deleted the PDF/UA entry and saved it and it gets rid of the PDF/UA identifier. That is the only way I could do it. Cheers Lisa On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:14 AM Karen McCall wrote: > Morning Everyone! > > I have a PDF from a scanned image that I cannot make accessible and > someone has put the PDF/UA identifier on it. 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The article I read then goes on to talk about the importance of tagging documents and such. It sounds like the PDF/UA attribute is a good thing. Why would someone want to remove it? Thanks, Robert On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 12:17 PM Karen McCall wrote: > Thanks everyone! > > That worked! I seldom go into those property areas and forget they exist. > > Cheers, Karen > > -----Original Message----- > From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of L > Snider > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 11:11 AM > To: WebAIM Discussion List > Cc: ATHEN > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC > > I had to do this a couple of times a year or so ago. I went into Acrobat > Pro, Properties, Additional Metadata and then I deleted the PDF/UA entry > and saved it and it gets rid of the PDF/UA identifier. That is the only way > I could do it. > > Cheers > > Lisa > > On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:14 AM Karen McCall > wrote: > > > Morning Everyone! > > > > I have a PDF from a scanned image that I cannot make accessible and > > someone has put the PDF/UA identifier on it. How do I remove the > > PDF/UA identifier from a PDF document? > > > > I can't find any information on how to do this online. > > > > Thanks in advance for your help! > > > > Cheers, Karen > > _______________________________________________ > > To manage your subscription, visit > > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist. > > webaim.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed8108da3e60c9f0%7 > > C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637890882701015586%7CUnkno > > wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL > > CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JIBfd0fMjRI6NiOcPq0XaE3XcEvLH2 > > AL4coo0p%2Bc9Lw%3D&reserved=0 List archives at > > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebai > > m.org%2Fdiscussion%2Farchives&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed > > 8108da3e60c9f0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6378908827 > > 01015586%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiL > > CJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=edzQw4f9yhcX88 > > KxKZ%2BxpcrhVy53C4SLjGRKU8LwEDk%3D&reserved=0 > > Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org > > > _______________________________________________ > To manage your subscription, visit > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist.webaim.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed8108da3e60c9f0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637890882701015586%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JIBfd0fMjRI6NiOcPq0XaE3XcEvLH2AL4coo0p%2Bc9Lw%3D&reserved=0 > List archives at > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebaim.org%2Fdiscussion%2Farchives&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed8108da3e60c9f0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637890882701015586%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=edzQw4f9yhcX88KxKZ%2BxpcrhVy53C4SLjGRKU8LwEDk%3D&reserved=0 > Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist Office of Learning Resources Ryan C. 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URL: From lsnider at gmail.com Wed May 25 09:43:18 2022 From: lsnider at gmail.com (L Snider) Date: Wed May 25 09:43:34 2022 Subject: [Athen] [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Robert, In this case, the PDF is not accessible in any way, as it is just image without any alternative text. Cheers Lisa On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 1:39 PM Robert Spangler wrote: > Hello, unsure of what PDF/UA is, I looked it up and see that it's > PDF/Universal Access. The article I read then goes on to talk about the > importance of tagging documents and such. It sounds like the PDF/UA > attribute is a good thing. Why would someone want to remove it? > > Thanks, > Robert > > > On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 12:17 PM Karen McCall > wrote: > >> Thanks everyone! >> >> That worked! I seldom go into those property areas and forget they exist. >> >> Cheers, Karen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of L >> Snider >> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 11:11 AM >> To: WebAIM Discussion List >> Cc: ATHEN >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC >> >> I had to do this a couple of times a year or so ago. I went into Acrobat >> Pro, Properties, Additional Metadata and then I deleted the PDF/UA entry >> and saved it and it gets rid of the PDF/UA identifier. That is the only way >> I could do it. >> >> Cheers >> >> Lisa >> >> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:14 AM Karen McCall >> wrote: >> >> > Morning Everyone! >> > >> > I have a PDF from a scanned image that I cannot make accessible and >> > someone has put the PDF/UA identifier on it. 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URL: From steve.green at testpartners.co.uk Wed May 25 09:44:31 2022 From: steve.green at testpartners.co.uk (Steve Green) Date: Wed May 25 09:44:38 2022 Subject: [Athen] [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The PDF/UA identifier doesn?t make the document accessible ? it simply declares that it is. You are only supposed to set the PDF/UA identifier if the document is PDF/UA conformant. Karen?s document wasn?t conformant, but someone had set the identifier when they should not have done. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: 25 May 2022 17:39 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC Hello, unsure of what PDF/UA is, I looked it up and see that it's PDF/Universal Access. The article I read then goes on to talk about the importance of tagging documents and such. It sounds like the PDF/UA attribute is a good thing. Why would someone want to remove it? Thanks, Robert On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 12:17 PM Karen McCall > wrote: Thanks everyone! That worked! I seldom go into those property areas and forget they exist. Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: WebAIM-Forum > On Behalf Of L Snider Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 11:11 AM To: WebAIM Discussion List > Cc: ATHEN > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC I had to do this a couple of times a year or so ago. I went into Acrobat Pro, Properties, Additional Metadata and then I deleted the PDF/UA entry and saved it and it gets rid of the PDF/UA identifier. That is the only way I could do it. Cheers Lisa On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:14 AM Karen McCall > wrote: > Morning Everyone! > > I have a PDF from a scanned image that I cannot make accessible and > someone has put the PDF/UA identifier on it. How do I remove the > PDF/UA identifier from a PDF document? > > I can't find any information on how to do this online. > > Thanks in advance for your help! > > Cheers, Karen > _______________________________________________ > To manage your subscription, visit > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist. > webaim.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed8108da3e60c9f0%7 > C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637890882701015586%7CUnkno > wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL > CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JIBfd0fMjRI6NiOcPq0XaE3XcEvLH2 > AL4coo0p%2Bc9Lw%3D&reserved=0 List archives at > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebai > m.org%2Fdiscussion%2Farchives&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed > 8108da3e60c9f0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6378908827 > 01015586%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiL > CJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=edzQw4f9yhcX88 > KxKZ%2BxpcrhVy53C4SLjGRKU8LwEDk%3D&reserved=0 > Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org > _______________________________________________ To manage your subscription, visit https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist.webaim.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed8108da3e60c9f0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637890882701015586%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JIBfd0fMjRI6NiOcPq0XaE3XcEvLH2AL4coo0p%2Bc9Lw%3D&reserved=0 List archives at https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebaim.org%2Fdiscussion%2Farchives&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed8108da3e60c9f0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637890882701015586%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=edzQw4f9yhcX88KxKZ%2BxpcrhVy53C4SLjGRKU8LwEDk%3D&reserved=0 Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist Office of Learning Resources Ryan C. 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URL: From rspangler1 at udayton.edu Wed May 25 09:45:41 2022 From: rspangler1 at udayton.edu (Robert Spangler) Date: Wed May 25 09:45:56 2022 Subject: [Athen] [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OH OK, so is PDF/UA simply a designation that the document is accessible, and in this case it was inaccurate? On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 12:44 PM L Snider wrote: > Hi Robert, > > In this case, the PDF is not accessible in any way, as it is just image > without any alternative text. > > Cheers > > Lisa > > On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 1:39 PM Robert Spangler > wrote: > >> Hello, unsure of what PDF/UA is, I looked it up and see that it's >> PDF/Universal Access. The article I read then goes on to talk about the >> importance of tagging documents and such. It sounds like the PDF/UA >> attribute is a good thing. Why would someone want to remove it? >> >> Thanks, >> Robert >> >> >> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 12:17 PM Karen McCall >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks everyone! >>> >>> That worked! I seldom go into those property areas and forget they exist. >>> >>> Cheers, Karen >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of >>> L Snider >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 11:11 AM >>> To: WebAIM Discussion List >>> Cc: ATHEN >>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC >>> >>> I had to do this a couple of times a year or so ago. I went into Acrobat >>> Pro, Properties, Additional Metadata and then I deleted the PDF/UA entry >>> and saved it and it gets rid of the PDF/UA identifier. That is the only way >>> I could do it. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Lisa >>> >>> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:14 AM Karen McCall >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Morning Everyone! >>> > >>> > I have a PDF from a scanned image that I cannot make accessible and >>> > someone has put the PDF/UA identifier on it. How do I remove the >>> > PDF/UA identifier from a PDF document? >>> > >>> > I can't find any information on how to do this online. >>> > >>> > Thanks in advance for your help! >>> > >>> > Cheers, Karen >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > To manage your subscription, visit >>> > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist. >>> > webaim.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed8108da3e60c9f0%7 >>> > C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637890882701015586%7CUnkno >>> > wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL >>> > CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JIBfd0fMjRI6NiOcPq0XaE3XcEvLH2 >>> > AL4coo0p%2Bc9Lw%3D&reserved=0 List archives at >>> > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebai >>> > m.org%2Fdiscussion%2Farchives&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed >>> > 8108da3e60c9f0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6378908827 >>> > 01015586%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiL >>> > CJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=edzQw4f9yhcX88 >>> > KxKZ%2BxpcrhVy53C4SLjGRKU8LwEDk%3D&reserved=0 >>> > Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To manage your subscription, visit >>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist.webaim.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed8108da3e60c9f0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637890882701015586%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JIBfd0fMjRI6NiOcPq0XaE3XcEvLH2AL4coo0p%2Bc9Lw%3D&reserved=0 >>> List archives at >>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebaim.org%2Fdiscussion%2Farchives&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed8108da3e60c9f0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637890882701015586%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=edzQw4f9yhcX88KxKZ%2BxpcrhVy53C4SLjGRKU8LwEDk%3D&reserved=0 >>> Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> athen-list mailing list >>> athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list >>> >> >> >> -- >> Robert Spangler >> Disability Services Technical Support Specialist >> Office of Learning Resources >> Ryan C. 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Karen?s document wasn?t conformant, but > someone had set the identifier when they should not have done. > > > > Steve Green > > Managing Director > > Test Partners Ltd > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Robert Spangler > *Sent:* 25 May 2022 17:39 > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat > Pro DC > > > > Hello, unsure of what PDF/UA is, I looked it up and see that it's > PDF/Universal Access. The article I read then goes on to talk about the > importance of tagging documents and such. It sounds like the PDF/UA > attribute is a good thing. Why would someone want to remove it? > > > > Thanks, > > Robert > > > > > > On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 12:17 PM Karen McCall > wrote: > > Thanks everyone! > > That worked! I seldom go into those property areas and forget they exist. > > Cheers, Karen > > -----Original Message----- > From: WebAIM-Forum On Behalf Of L > Snider > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 11:11 AM > To: WebAIM Discussion List > Cc: ATHEN > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC > > I had to do this a couple of times a year or so ago. I went into Acrobat > Pro, Properties, Additional Metadata and then I deleted the PDF/UA entry > and saved it and it gets rid of the PDF/UA identifier. That is the only way > I could do it. > > Cheers > > Lisa > > On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:14 AM Karen McCall > wrote: > > > Morning Everyone! > > > > I have a PDF from a scanned image that I cannot make accessible and > > someone has put the PDF/UA identifier on it. How do I remove the > > PDF/UA identifier from a PDF document? > > > > I can't find any information on how to do this online. > > > > Thanks in advance for your help! > > > > Cheers, Karen > > _______________________________________________ > > To manage your subscription, visit > > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist. > > webaim.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed8108da3e60c9f0%7 > > C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637890882701015586%7CUnkno > > wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL > > CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JIBfd0fMjRI6NiOcPq0XaE3XcEvLH2 > > AL4coo0p%2Bc9Lw%3D&reserved=0 List archives at > > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebai > > m.org%2Fdiscussion%2Farchives&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed > > 8108da3e60c9f0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6378908827 > > 01015586%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiL > > CJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=edzQw4f9yhcX88 > > KxKZ%2BxpcrhVy53C4SLjGRKU8LwEDk%3D&reserved=0 > > Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org > > > _______________________________________________ > To manage your subscription, visit > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist.webaim.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed8108da3e60c9f0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637890882701015586%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JIBfd0fMjRI6NiOcPq0XaE3XcEvLH2AL4coo0p%2Bc9Lw%3D&reserved=0 > List archives at > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebaim.org%2Fdiscussion%2Farchives&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed8108da3e60c9f0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637890882701015586%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=edzQw4f9yhcX88KxKZ%2BxpcrhVy53C4SLjGRKU8LwEDk%3D&reserved=0 > Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > > > > > -- > > Robert Spangler > > Disability Services Technical Support Specialist > > Office of Learning Resources > > Ryan C. 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URL: From K4mccall at outlook.com Wed May 25 09:49:45 2022 From: K4mccall at outlook.com (Karen McCall) Date: Wed May 25 09:49:49 2022 Subject: [Athen] [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The PDF/UA identifier is voluntary and "validates" that the PDF does comply with the international standard. With that identifier comes expectations that the PDF is actually accessible. Since someone must physically put the PDF/UA identifier/sticker on the PDF, anyone can claim PDF/UA conformance, even on a PDF that is not accessible. It is up to the PDF remediator or the content author converting the content to tagged PDF to be honest enough to only put the identifier on accessible conforming PDF. I have a PDF that I cannot make accessible but someone has put the PDF/UA identifier on it saying that the PDF IS accessible. I need to be able to remove that claim so that people don't expect an accessible PDF when they open the document. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 12:39 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC Hello, unsure of what PDF/UA is, I looked it up and see that it's PDF/Universal Access. The article I read then goes on to talk about the importance of tagging documents and such. It sounds like the PDF/UA attribute is a good thing. Why would someone want to remove it? Thanks, Robert On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 12:17 PM Karen McCall > wrote: Thanks everyone! That worked! I seldom go into those property areas and forget they exist. Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: WebAIM-Forum > On Behalf Of L Snider Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 11:11 AM To: WebAIM Discussion List > Cc: ATHEN > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC I had to do this a couple of times a year or so ago. I went into Acrobat Pro, Properties, Additional Metadata and then I deleted the PDF/UA entry and saved it and it gets rid of the PDF/UA identifier. That is the only way I could do it. Cheers Lisa On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:14 AM Karen McCall > wrote: > Morning Everyone! > > I have a PDF from a scanned image that I cannot make accessible and > someone has put the PDF/UA identifier on it. How do I remove the > PDF/UA identifier from a PDF document? > > I can't find any information on how to do this online. > > Thanks in advance for your help! > > Cheers, Karen > _______________________________________________ > To manage your subscription, visit > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist. > webaim.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed8108da3e60c9f0%7 > C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637890882701015586%7CUnkno > wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL > CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JIBfd0fMjRI6NiOcPq0XaE3XcEvLH2 > AL4coo0p%2Bc9Lw%3D&reserved=0 List archives at > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebai > m.org%2Fdiscussion%2Farchives&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed > 8108da3e60c9f0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6378908827 > 01015586%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiL > CJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=edzQw4f9yhcX88 > KxKZ%2BxpcrhVy53C4SLjGRKU8LwEDk%3D&reserved=0 > Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org > _______________________________________________ To manage your subscription, visit https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist.webaim.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed8108da3e60c9f0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637890882701015586%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JIBfd0fMjRI6NiOcPq0XaE3XcEvLH2AL4coo0p%2Bc9Lw%3D&reserved=0 List archives at https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebaim.org%2Fdiscussion%2Farchives&data=05%7C01%7C%7C65d020e4ade946d8ed8108da3e60c9f0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637890882701015586%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=edzQw4f9yhcX88KxKZ%2BxpcrhVy53C4SLjGRKU8LwEDk%3D&reserved=0 Address list messages to webaim-forum@list.webaim.org _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -- Robert Spangler Disability Services Technical Support Specialist Office of Learning Resources Ryan C. 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Click the Fix button at the lower right (another blue wrench icon). -Bevi - - - Bevi Chagnon | Designer, Accessibility Technician | Chagnon@PubCom.com - - - PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting . training . development . design . sec. 508 services Upcoming classes at www.PubCom.com/classes - - - Latest blog-newsletter - Simple Guide to Writing Alt-Text From: athen-list On Behalf Of Karen McCall Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 12:50 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC The PDF/UA identifier is voluntary and "validates" that the PDF does comply with the international standard. With that identifier comes expectations that the PDF is actually accessible. Since someone must physically put the PDF/UA identifier/sticker on the PDF, anyone can claim PDF/UA conformance, even on a PDF that is not accessible. It is up to the PDF remediator or the content author converting the content to tagged PDF to be honest enough to only put the identifier on accessible conforming PDF. I have a PDF that I cannot make accessible but someone has put the PDF/UA identifier on it saying that the PDF IS accessible. I need to be able to remove that claim so that people don't expect an accessible PDF when they open the document. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Spangler Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 12:39 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC Hello, unsure of what PDF/UA is, I looked it up and see that it's PDF/Universal Access. The article I read then goes on to talk about the importance of tagging documents and such. It sounds like the PDF/UA attribute is a good thing. Why would someone want to remove it? Thanks, Robert On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 12:17 PM Karen McCall > wrote: Thanks everyone! That worked! I seldom go into those property areas and forget they exist. Cheers, Karen -----Original Message----- From: WebAIM-Forum > On Behalf Of L Snider Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 11:11 AM To: WebAIM Discussion List > Cc: ATHEN > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Removing the PDF/UA Identifier in Acrobat Pro DC I had to do this a couple of times a year or so ago. I went into Acrobat Pro, Properties, Additional Metadata and then I deleted the PDF/UA entry and saved it and it gets rid of the PDF/UA identifier. That is the only way I could do it. Cheers Lisa On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:14 AM Karen McCall > wrote: > Morning Everyone! > > I have a PDF from a scanned image that I cannot make accessible and > someone has put the PDF/UA identifier on it. 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Please be advised that this email is only monitored during office hours. During peak times of the academic year, replies may be delayed. If a reply is not received within 3 business days, please resend your message. If your matter is urgent, please contact the Accessibility, Counselling and Student Development office at acsd@kings.uwo.ca King's University College is situated on the traditional lands of the Anishinaabeg, Haudenausaune, Lenaapeewak, and Attawandaron peoples. This territory also covers lands connected to the London Township Treaty and Sombra Treaty 1796, and the Dish with One Spoon Wampum. May we honour their teachings and stewardship of the land. ________________________________ Good morning everyone, We wish to congratulate Charles Levasseur, Regional Manager / Assistive Technology and Learning Disability Specialist with Neil Squire Society as the winner of the AT3 survey. Congratulations Charles! We wanted to provide an update on the progress of the AT3 Whitepaper/Discussion Paper. We anticipate the paper will be completed by the end of spring. Hopefully, this will give you some time during the summer to digest the content and consider incorporating some of the findings into your work as we head into the fall. As a teaser, here is a little data to process in anticipation of the release of the Whitepaper/Discussion Paper: [image.png] Text version of the teaser image: AT3: An AT survey for AT's by AT's In 2022, over 100 AT's from 5 continents answered a survey on virtual/remote AT support 1. Sector - >60% of AT's work in post-secondary education 2. experience - 50% of AT's have greater than 6 years of experience. 3. Remote - Surprisingly, >22% of AT's were already supporting their clients remotely before COVID-19 The full Whitepaper/Discussion Paper will be released in late Spring 2022 Thank you to everyone for your time in answering the survey as well as your contribution to this initiative. The AT3 Team -- Lyle Williams AT @ Centennial College - Toronto [https://www.kings.uwo.ca/kings/assets/Image/email/accessibility-counselling.png] King's University College is committed to accessibility for persons with disabilities. Please contact us if you have any particular accommodation requirements or require information in an alternate format. ________________________________ Confidentiality Notice: The contents of this communication, including any attachment(s), are confidential and may be privileged. 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URL: From M.Deeprose at soton.ac.uk Fri May 27 04:35:37 2022 From: M.Deeprose at soton.ac.uk (Matthew Deeprose) Date: Fri May 27 04:35:44 2022 Subject: [Athen] Creating and delivering a presentation as a blind student Message-ID: Hi Colleagues Our student disability and inclusion team are supporting a blind masters student who will be undertaking a 90 minute viva. Part of this is the delivery of a 30 minute presentation using visual aids such as a PowerPoint presentation. The student has never done an activity such as this before, and is not familiar with PowerPoint. I would be interested to hear any experiences, tips, or strategies that can be used by the student and those who support the student. And any suggestions of software that might help. The student is reasonably confident using Narrator and Jaws, but this is more for consuming content and writing emails and documents. Thanks Matt This email has been checked for accessibility. Want to know how to make your email accessible? 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I use JAWS and find it doable, while not the easiest to do. Creating the content is not difficult, formatting to be pretty is what can take some time and thought. There are some basics to understand about using JAWS with PowerPoint. I suggest the student first create his content in Word using heading styles. Each new slide should start with a heading 1 style. When the file is pulled into PowerPoint, it will automatically create a new slide each time there is A heading 1 encountered. Heading 2 will be the main bullet points of the slide and heading3 will be the subpoints. You can go deeper than that if needed, up to a level 6. I personally have never found the need to do this. When in PowerPoint, the F5 key will launch slide show mode. Once in this mode, SPACEBAR will advance a slide and BACKSPACE will go back a slide. The ESC key will exit slide show mode and return to the normal view for editing. While in normal view for editing, TAB will move between the placeholders on the slide, ENTER will start edit mode on that placeholder, and ESC will exit edit mode for that placeholder. PAGEUP/PAGEDOWN will move between slides. CTRL+M makes a new slide which will have the default format or sometimes the same format as the previous slide. CTRL+N creates a new presentation. As always, CTRL+S will save the slide and CTRL+O will open a presentation. Feel free to contact me if you have further questions. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list On Behalf Of Matthew Deeprose Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 6:36 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: [EXT][Athen] Creating and delivering a presentation as a blind student CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hi Colleagues Our student disability and inclusion team are supporting a blind masters student who will be undertaking a 90 minute viva. Part of this is the delivery of a 30 minute presentation using visual aids such as a PowerPoint presentation. The student has never done an activity such as this before, and is not familiar with PowerPoint. I would be interested to hear any experiences, tips, or strategies that can be used by the student and those who support the student. And any suggestions of software that might help. The student is reasonably confident using Narrator and Jaws, but this is more for consuming content and writing emails and documents. Thanks Matt This email has been checked for accessibility. Want to know how to make your email accessible? Matthew Deeprose He/Him/His Digital Learning iSolutions University of Southampton JISC Community Chamption 2022 EdTech Awards 2022 Finalist: Edtech author / speaker or podcaster My accessibility presentations, blog posts, and projects [Digital Leaning Team Logographic.] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 5159 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From justinr at disability.tamu.edu Fri May 27 06:07:18 2022 From: justinr at disability.tamu.edu (Romack, Justin) Date: Fri May 27 06:07:33 2022 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] Creating and delivering a presentation as a blind student In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Howdy Matt! Tagging onto Robert's excellent overview of PowerPoint with a screen reader: If using JAWS, your student can also add and access Speaker Notes for reference while giving their presentation. Much like a sighted user would use their computer display to discretely review notes while the presentation is in focus on the projected screen, JAWS can discretely reveal the student's notes by pressing CTRL + Shift + N while in presentation mode. Pressing this once while on a slide will reveal the Speaker Notes, while pressing a second time will toggle back to the slide content. A lot of presenting as a blind professional is being comfortable with your content, the space where you're presenting, and the awareness of and connection with your audience. I would encourage this student to rehearse how they might take cues from JAWS while speaking and/or transitioning between slides, as this has always proven the most challenging part of presenting for me. Always happy to be a contact point if you or the student have questions! Thanks, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 7:52 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] Creating and delivering a presentation as a blind student Matt, I am blind and give PowerPoint presentations all the time. I even create the content myself. Once I have it the way I "think" it should be, I have sighted colleagues review it to make sure everything does look good. I use ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd Matt, I am blind and give PowerPoint presentations all the time. I even create the content myself. Once I have it the way I "think" it should be, I have sighted colleagues review it to make sure everything does look good. I use JAWS and find it doable, while not the easiest to do. Creating the content is not difficult, formatting to be pretty is what can take some time and thought. There are some basics to understand about using JAWS with PowerPoint. I suggest the student first create his content in Word using heading styles. Each new slide should start with a heading 1 style. When the file is pulled into PowerPoint, it will automatically create a new slide each time there is A heading 1 encountered. Heading 2 will be the main bullet points of the slide and heading3 will be the subpoints. You can go deeper than that if needed, up to a level 6. I personally have never found the need to do this. When in PowerPoint, the F5 key will launch slide show mode. Once in this mode, SPACEBAR will advance a slide and BACKSPACE will go back a slide. The ESC key will exit slide show mode and return to the normal view for editing. While in normal view for editing, TAB will move between the placeholders on the slide, ENTER will start edit mode on that placeholder, and ESC will exit edit mode for that placeholder. PAGEUP/PAGEDOWN will move between slides. CTRL+M makes a new slide which will have the default format or sometimes the same format as the previous slide. CTRL+N creates a new presentation. As always, CTRL+S will save the slide and CTRL+O will open a presentation. Feel free to contact me if you have further questions. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Matthew Deeprose Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 6:36 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [EXT][Athen] Creating and delivering a presentation as a blind student CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hi Colleagues Our student disability and inclusion team are supporting a blind masters student who will be undertaking a 90 minute viva. Part of this is the delivery of a 30 minute presentation using visual aids such as a PowerPoint presentation. The student has never done an activity such as this before, and is not familiar with PowerPoint. I would be interested to hear any experiences, tips, or strategies that can be used by the student and those who support the student. And any suggestions of software that might help. The student is reasonably confident using Narrator and Jaws, but this is more for consuming content and writing emails and documents. Thanks Matt This email has been checked for accessibility. Want to know how to make your email accessible? Matthew Deeprose He/Him/His Digital Learning iSolutions University of Southampton JISC Community Chamption 2022 EdTech Awards 2022 Finalist: Edtech author / speaker or podcaster My accessibility presentations, blog posts, and projects [Digital Leaning Team Logographic.] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Tagging onto Robert's excellent overview of PowerPoint with a screen reader: If using JAWS, your student can also add and access Speaker Notes for reference while giving their presentation. Much like a sighted user would use their computer display to discretely review notes while the presentation is in focus on the projected screen, JAWS can discretely reveal the student's notes by pressing CTRL + Shift + N while in presentation mode. Pressing this once while on a slide will reveal the Speaker Notes, while pressing a second time will toggle back to the slide content. A lot of presenting as a blind professional is being comfortable with your content, the space where you're presenting, and the awareness of and connection with your audience. I would encourage this student to rehearse how they might take cues from JAWS while speaking and/or transitioning between slides, as this has always proven the most challenging part of presenting for me. Always happy to be a contact point if you or the student have questions! Thanks, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 7:52 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] Creating and delivering a presentation as a blind student Matt, I am blind and give PowerPoint presentations all the time. I even create the content myself. Once I have it the way I "think" it should be, I have sighted colleagues review it to make sure everything does look good. I use ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd Matt, I am blind and give PowerPoint presentations all the time. I even create the content myself. Once I have it the way I "think" it should be, I have sighted colleagues review it to make sure everything does look good. I use JAWS and find it doable, while not the easiest to do. Creating the content is not difficult, formatting to be pretty is what can take some time and thought. There are some basics to understand about using JAWS with PowerPoint. I suggest the student first create his content in Word using heading styles. Each new slide should start with a heading 1 style. When the file is pulled into PowerPoint, it will automatically create a new slide each time there is A heading 1 encountered. Heading 2 will be the main bullet points of the slide and heading3 will be the subpoints. You can go deeper than that if needed, up to a level 6. I personally have never found the need to do this. When in PowerPoint, the F5 key will launch slide show mode. Once in this mode, SPACEBAR will advance a slide and BACKSPACE will go back a slide. The ESC key will exit slide show mode and return to the normal view for editing. While in normal view for editing, TAB will move between the placeholders on the slide, ENTER will start edit mode on that placeholder, and ESC will exit edit mode for that placeholder. PAGEUP/PAGEDOWN will move between slides. CTRL+M makes a new slide which will have the default format or sometimes the same format as the previous slide. CTRL+N creates a new presentation. As always, CTRL+S will save the slide and CTRL+O will open a presentation. Feel free to contact me if you have further questions. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Matthew Deeprose Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 6:36 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [EXT][Athen] Creating and delivering a presentation as a blind student CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hi Colleagues Our student disability and inclusion team are supporting a blind masters student who will be undertaking a 90 minute viva. Part of this is the delivery of a 30 minute presentation using visual aids such as a PowerPoint presentation. The student has never done an activity such as this before, and is not familiar with PowerPoint. I would be interested to hear any experiences, tips, or strategies that can be used by the student and those who support the student. And any suggestions of software that might help. The student is reasonably confident using Narrator and Jaws, but this is more for consuming content and writing emails and documents. Thanks Matt This email has been checked for accessibility. Want to know how to make your email accessible? Matthew Deeprose He/Him/His Digital Learning iSolutions University of Southampton JISC Community Chamption 2022 EdTech Awards 2022 Finalist: Edtech author / speaker or podcaster My accessibility presentations, blog posts, and projects [Digital Leaning Team Logographic.] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I did a presentation at AHG two years ago on "Word to PowerPoint to Word" showing how to create your presentation in Word, bling it up in PowerPoint, then create the alternate format from the finished PowerPoint presentation. I've just finished developing curriculum for a Mohawk College micro credential course on accessible PowerPoint, Outlook and Excel. Will send links once the courses are live. Even I was amazed at the "bling" I could add to a presentation using a screen reader or just the keyboard. The attached documents are free tutorials from my website. I found a resource on the Microsoft site: Use a screen reader to show your presentation with PowerPoint (microsoft.com) Let me know if you have any questions! Cheers, Karen From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Robert Beach Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 8:52 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] Creating and delivering a presentation as a blind student Matt, I am blind and give PowerPoint presentations all the time. I even create the content myself. Once I have it the way I "think" it should be, I have sighted colleagues review it to make sure everything does look good. I use JAWS and find it doable, while not the easiest to do. Creating the content is not difficult, formatting to be pretty is what can take some time and thought. There are some basics to understand about using JAWS with PowerPoint. I suggest the student first create his content in Word using heading styles. Each new slide should start with a heading 1 style. When the file is pulled into PowerPoint, it will automatically create a new slide each time there is A heading 1 encountered. Heading 2 will be the main bullet points of the slide and heading3 will be the subpoints. You can go deeper than that if needed, up to a level 6. I personally have never found the need to do this. When in PowerPoint, the F5 key will launch slide show mode. Once in this mode, SPACEBAR will advance a slide and BACKSPACE will go back a slide. The ESC key will exit slide show mode and return to the normal view for editing. While in normal view for editing, TAB will move between the placeholders on the slide, ENTER will start edit mode on that placeholder, and ESC will exit edit mode for that placeholder. PAGEUP/PAGEDOWN will move between slides. CTRL+M makes a new slide which will have the default format or sometimes the same format as the previous slide. CTRL+N creates a new presentation. As always, CTRL+S will save the slide and CTRL+O will open a presentation. Feel free to contact me if you have further questions. Robert Lee Beach Assistive Technology Specialist - Student Accessibility & Support Services Kansas City Kansas Community College 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 rbeach@kckcc.edu From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Matthew Deeprose Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 6:36 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: [EXT][Athen] Creating and delivering a presentation as a blind student CAUTION: This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu. Hi Colleagues Our student disability and inclusion team are supporting a blind masters student who will be undertaking a 90 minute viva. Part of this is the delivery of a 30 minute presentation using visual aids such as a PowerPoint presentation. The student has never done an activity such as this before, and is not familiar with PowerPoint. I would be interested to hear any experiences, tips, or strategies that can be used by the student and those who support the student. And any suggestions of software that might help. The student is reasonably confident using Narrator and Jaws, but this is more for consuming content and writing emails and documents. Thanks Matt This email has been checked for accessibility. Want to know how to make your email accessible? Matthew Deeprose He/Him/His Digital Learning iSolutions University of Southampton JISC Community Chamption 2022 EdTech Awards 2022 Finalist: Edtech author / speaker or podcaster My accessibility presentations, blog posts, and projects [Digital Leaning Team Logographic.] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So there are still times when we need to be able to refer to a specific location in the process of creating a formula. If the data is located on a sheet other than where the formula resides, the only way we have been able to enter the cell address in the formula is by PRE-locating the cell, then eventually typing the cell address into the formula. This is cumbersome, time-consuming and a distraction from the flow of accounting thought. So we are still hoping for a better way. I?ve attached two of our accounting files, (both the original file and the completed file) in case you want to forward them to your contact, but I?m not sure how useful they are without some explanation. [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass] Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington ? 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Perhaps you could turn to Microsoft?s Disability Answer Desk for help with this, since it?s a Microsoft product. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/enterprise-answer-desk _____ Michael Vaughn (he/him/his) Associate Director of Digital Accessibility Yale University, Information Technology Services 25 Science Park, 542 | 203.432.9620 accessibility.yale.edu From: athen-list on behalf of Monica Olsson Date: Friday, May 27, 2022 at 10:36 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Excel accessibility wizard needed! ATHEN colleagues, I need your help! Are you or anyone you know an Excel accessibility wizard? I am working with an Accounting professor that has done an incredible job redesigning her materials to be accessible to a blind student in her class. She has sent me specific questions about her excel files and there is a need for deeper support that is beyond my current knowledge. Her question is below and I have attached the mentioned files as well. >From professor: While we have recently discovered a feature that lets a student efficiently use range names to create formulas (eliminating the need to know WHERE a given piece of data is actually located), there are times when naming ranges is not efficient. So there are still times when we need to be able to refer to a specific location in the process of creating a formula. If the data is located on a sheet other than where the formula resides, the only way we have been able to enter the cell address in the formula is by PRE-locating the cell, then eventually typing the cell address into the formula. This is cumbersome, time-consuming and a distraction from the flow of accounting thought. So we are still hoping for a better way. I?ve attached two of our accounting files, (both the original file and the completed file) in case you want to forward them to your contact, but I?m not sure how useful they are without some explanation. [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass]Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington ? Facebook: @WASBCTC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Outlook-Title_ SBC.png Type: image/png Size: 22679 bytes Desc: Outlook-Title_ SBC.png URL: From K4mccall at outlook.com Fri May 27 08:03:17 2022 From: K4mccall at outlook.com (Karen McCall) Date: Fri May 27 08:03:25 2022 Subject: [Athen] Excel accessibility wizard needed! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: One of the things I recommend I is using named ranges or a defined name for a cell to create links to specific topics in an Excel worksheet or workbook. I typically teach that row 1 is reserved for accessibility support: cell A1 contains a description of the worksheet with any oddities. Cells B1 horizontally across row 1 contains links to specific cells in the worksheet so that someone can easily get to the point that they want. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list On Behalf Of Monica Olsson Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 10:31 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Excel accessibility wizard needed! ATHEN colleagues, I need your help! Are you or anyone you know an Excel accessibility wizard? I am working with an Accounting professor that has done an incredible job redesigning her materials to be accessible to a blind student in her class. She has sent me specific questions about her excel files and there is a need for deeper support that is beyond my current knowledge. Her question is below and I have attached the mentioned files as well. >From professor: While we have recently discovered a feature that lets a student efficiently use range names to create formulas (eliminating the need to know WHERE a given piece of data is actually located), there are times when naming ranges is not efficient. So there are still times when we need to be able to refer to a specific location in the process of creating a formula. If the data is located on a sheet other than where the formula resides, the only way we have been able to enter the cell address in the formula is by PRE-locating the cell, then eventually typing the cell address into the formula. This is cumbersome, time-consuming and a distraction from the flow of accounting thought. So we are still hoping for a better way. I've attached two of our accounting files, (both the original file and the completed file) in case you want to forward them to your contact, but I'm not sure how useful they are without some explanation. [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass]Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate - Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu * o: 360-704-3922 * c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu * Twitter: @SBCTCWashington * Facebook: @WASBCTC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 22672 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It?s really the manufacturers of products who should be confirming accessibility or the platform maintainers who should be working on this. In the example below, I knew beforehand the platform was accessible, but one aspect is tricky and I haven?t fully figured it out yet. From: Deborah Armstrong Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 8:27 AM To: certificates@cs50.harvard.edu Cc: accessibility@edx.org Subject: FW: [edX] Re: CS50P and CodeSpaces I originally sent this accessibility query to the accessibility email address at Edx and was, as you can see from the below email, redirected to you. I don?t know who handles accessibility for this course, but my query should be passed on to them. In the meanwhile, I have figured out a partial solution. Though the normal way to get to Settings in CodeSpaces is to click on the ?gear icon? the keystroke is control-comma, that is the comma key pressed together with control. After that an accessible tree view opens. The user arrows down to editor, and then in to the accessibility subgroup. There, Screen reader is set to Auto. This works with VSCode on the desktop, but not in CodeSpaces because there, VSCode has no way of determining whether the user has a screen reader running. It has to be set to on, which automatically turns all the other screen reader choices in that subgroup to on as well. This also makes the editor work well with a Braille display. After that, the screen reader does read the terminal output. However I still have not figured out how to paste from the terminal ? I need to paste my public key. Pasting in to the terminal works fine. Luckily I already know Linux so I just have to find some sort of work-around there. I suggest that accessibility instructions for screen reader users be included in one of the help topics for the course. Most students will be beginners and if they cannot figure out accessibility will drop the course and perhaps never enter this field. At a conference I attended, it was my understanding that both Harvard and Edx have full-time accessibility experts, so it seems to me they should be doing their job and writing these help topics! Respectfully, Deborah Armstrong (User ID DebeeArmstrong) Milpitas, CA From: edX accessibility > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 6:48 PM To: Deborah Armstrong > Subject: [edX] Re: CS50P and CodeSpaces ##- Please type your reply above this line -## [Image removed by sender. edx logo] Your inquiry (CS50P and CodeSpaces) has been closed with the message below. If you wish to reopen this request, simply reply to this email. [Image removed by sender.] Maria (edX) May 26, 2022, 8:47 PM CDT Hello Deborah, Thank you for your participation with edX. We appreciate your enrollment in CS50. We understand that being redirected when asking for help is inconvenient. However, support for this course is handled by the Harvard course staff outside of edX. For support with your CS50 course, please contact the CS50 team directly at certificates@cs50.harvard.edu for assistance. Thank you. Best Regards, Maria the edX team Find more answers in our edX Help Center [Image removed by sender.] Deborah Armstrong May 26, 2022, 5:07 PM CDT I am a screen reader user on Windows. I know all three popular screen readers on this platform. I?m taking CS50, the Python version of the course. I already know how to write code, but not in Python and not in a cloud-based environment. To do my project assignments I understand I use codespaces on github. I also understand this cloud environment is accessible. However, I cannot read the terminal output. I did a little searching and understand that an environment variable for screen readers needs to be set to True. I am not experienced enough to know if I can do this myself, or even how to do it. Can this be documented with the beginner in mind, or can you reply to my email with instructions? 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I did > a presentation at AHG two years ago on ?Word to PowerPoint to Word? showing > how to create your presentation in Word, bling it up in PowerPoint, then > create the alternate format from the finished PowerPoint presentation. > > > > I?ve just finished developing curriculum for a Mohawk College micro > credential course on accessible PowerPoint, Outlook and Excel. Will send > links once the courses are live. > > > > Even I was amazed at the ?bling? I could add to a presentation using a > screen reader or just the keyboard. > > > > The attached documents are free tutorials from my website. > > > > I found a resource on the Microsoft site: > > Use a screen reader to show your presentation with PowerPoint > (microsoft.com) > > > > > Let me know if you have any questions! > > > > Cheers, Karen > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Robert Beach > *Sent:* Friday, May 27, 2022 8:52 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] [EXT] Creating and delivering a presentation as a > blind student > > > > Matt, > > > > I am blind and give PowerPoint presentations all the time. I even create > the content myself. Once I have it the way I ?think? it should be, I have > sighted colleagues review it to make sure everything does look good. I use > JAWS and find it doable, while not the easiest to do. Creating the content > is not difficult, formatting to be pretty is what can take some time and > thought. > > > > There are some basics to understand about using JAWS with PowerPoint. I > suggest the student first create his content in Word using heading styles. > Each new slide should start with a heading 1 style. When the file is pulled > into PowerPoint, it will automatically create a new slide each time there > is A heading 1 encountered. Heading 2 will be the main bullet points of the > slide and heading3 will be the subpoints. You can go deeper than that if > needed, up to a level 6. I personally have never found the need to do this. > > > > When in PowerPoint, the F5 key will launch slide show mode. Once in this > mode, SPACEBAR will advance a slide and BACKSPACE will go back a slide. The > ESC key will exit slide show mode and return to the normal view for editing. > > > > While in normal view for editing, TAB will move between the placeholders > on the slide, ENTER will start edit mode on that placeholder, and ESC will > exit edit mode for that placeholder. PAGEUP/PAGEDOWN will move between > slides. > > > > CTRL+M makes a new slide which will have the default format or sometimes > the same format as the previous slide. CTRL+N creates a new presentation. > As always, CTRL+S will save the slide and CTRL+O will open a presentation. > > > > Feel free to contact me if you have further questions. > > > > > > *Robert Lee Beach* > > *Assistive Technology Specialist* ? Student Accessibility & Support > Services > > > > *Kansas City Kansas Community College* > > 7250 State Ave. - Suite # 3384 - Kansas City, KS 66112 > > O 913-288-7671 | F 913-288-7678 > > rbeach@kckcc.edu > > > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Matthew Deeprose > *Sent:* Friday, May 27, 2022 6:36 AM > *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [EXT][Athen] Creating and delivering a presentation as a blind > student > > > > *CAUTION:** This email originated outside KCKCC. Do not click links or > open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Please forward all > suspicious emails to support@kckcc.edu .* > > Hi Colleagues > > > > Our student disability and inclusion team are supporting a blind masters > student who will be undertaking a 90 minute viva. Part of this is the > delivery of a 30 minute presentation using visual aids such as a PowerPoint > presentation. > > > > The student has never done an activity such as this before, and is not > familiar with PowerPoint. > > > > I would be interested to hear any experiences, tips, or strategies that > can be used by the student and those who support the student. And any > suggestions of software that might help. The student is reasonably > confident using Narrator and Jaws, but this is more for consuming content > and writing emails and documents. > > > > Thanks > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > This email has been checked for accessibility. Want to know how to make > your email accessible? > > > > > *Matthew Deeprose* > > He/Him/His > > > Digital Learning > > > iSolutions > > University of Southampton > > > > JISC Community Chamption 2022 > > > EdTech Awards 2022 Finalist: Edtech author / speaker or podcaster > > > My accessibility presentations, blog posts, and projects > > > > > [image: Digital Leaning Team Logographic.] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 5159 bytes Desc: not available URL: From molsson at sbctc.edu Fri May 27 12:02:19 2022 From: molsson at sbctc.edu (Monica Olsson) Date: Fri May 27 12:02:30 2022 Subject: [Athen] Excel accessibility wizard needed! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, Karen. I am mostly tracking your suggestions...and think this may be close to what the professor is already doing. Do you have an example excel file I could look at, please? Or would you consider a brief conversation with me on Zoom? Thanks again! [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass] Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington ? Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Karen McCall Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 8:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Athen] Excel accessibility wizard needed! One of the things I recommend I is using named ranges or a defined name for a cell to create links to specific topics in an Excel worksheet or workbook. I typically teach that row 1 is reserved for accessibility support: cell A1 contains a description of the worksheet with any oddities. Cells B1 horizontally across row 1 contains links to specific cells in the worksheet so that someone can easily get to the point that they want. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list On Behalf Of Monica Olsson Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 10:31 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Excel accessibility wizard needed! ATHEN colleagues, I need your help! Are you or anyone you know an Excel accessibility wizard? I am working with an Accounting professor that has done an incredible job redesigning her materials to be accessible to a blind student in her class. She has sent me specific questions about her excel files and there is a need for deeper support that is beyond my current knowledge. Her question is below and I have attached the mentioned files as well. >From professor: While we have recently discovered a feature that lets a student efficiently use range names to create formulas (eliminating the need to know WHERE a given piece of data is actually located), there are times when naming ranges is not efficient. So there are still times when we need to be able to refer to a specific location in the process of creating a formula. If the data is located on a sheet other than where the formula resides, the only way we have been able to enter the cell address in the formula is by PRE-locating the cell, then eventually typing the cell address into the formula. This is cumbersome, time-consuming and a distraction from the flow of accounting thought. So we are still hoping for a better way. I?ve attached two of our accounting files, (both the original file and the completed file) in case you want to forward them to your contact, but I?m not sure how useful they are without some explanation. [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass]Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington ? Facebook: @WASBCTC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 10667 bytes Desc: image003.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Perhaps you could turn to Microsoft?s Disability Answer Desk for help with this, since it?s a Microsoft product. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/enterprise-answer-desk _____ Michael Vaughn (he/him/his) Associate Director of Digital Accessibility Yale University, Information Technology Services 25 Science Park, 542 | 203.432.9620 accessibility.yale.edu From: athen-list on behalf of Monica Olsson Date: Friday, May 27, 2022 at 10:36 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Excel accessibility wizard needed! ATHEN colleagues, I need your help! Are you or anyone you know an Excel accessibility wizard? I am working with an Accounting professor that has done an incredible job redesigning her materials to be accessible to a blind student in her class. She has sent me specific questions about her excel files and there is a need for deeper support that is beyond my current knowledge. Her question is below and I have attached the mentioned files as well. >From professor: While we have recently discovered a feature that lets a student efficiently use range names to create formulas (eliminating the need to know WHERE a given piece of data is actually located), there are times when naming ranges is not efficient. So there are still times when we need to be able to refer to a specific location in the process of creating a formula. If the data is located on a sheet other than where the formula resides, the only way we have been able to enter the cell address in the formula is by PRE-locating the cell, then eventually typing the cell address into the formula. This is cumbersome, time-consuming and a distraction from the flow of accounting thought. So we are still hoping for a better way. I?ve attached two of our accounting files, (both the original file and the completed file) in case you want to forward them to your contact, but I?m not sure how useful they are without some explanation. [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass]Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington ? Facebook: @WASBCTC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Outlook-Title_ SBC.png Type: image/png Size: 22679 bytes Desc: Outlook-Title_ SBC.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I am mostly tracking your suggestions...and think this may be close to what the professor is already doing. Do you have an example excel file I could look at, please? Or would you consider a brief conversation with me on Zoom? Thanks again! [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass]Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate - Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu * o: 360-704-3922 * c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu * Twitter: @SBCTCWashington * Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Karen McCall > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 8:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Athen] Excel accessibility wizard needed! One of the things I recommend I is using named ranges or a defined name for a cell to create links to specific topics in an Excel worksheet or workbook. I typically teach that row 1 is reserved for accessibility support: cell A1 contains a description of the worksheet with any oddities. Cells B1 horizontally across row 1 contains links to specific cells in the worksheet so that someone can easily get to the point that they want. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Monica Olsson Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 10:31 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Excel accessibility wizard needed! ATHEN colleagues, I need your help! Are you or anyone you know an Excel accessibility wizard? I am working with an Accounting professor that has done an incredible job redesigning her materials to be accessible to a blind student in her class. She has sent me specific questions about her excel files and there is a need for deeper support that is beyond my current knowledge. Her question is below and I have attached the mentioned files as well. >From professor: While we have recently discovered a feature that lets a student efficiently use range names to create formulas (eliminating the need to know WHERE a given piece of data is actually located), there are times when naming ranges is not efficient. So there are still times when we need to be able to refer to a specific location in the process of creating a formula. If the data is located on a sheet other than where the formula resides, the only way we have been able to enter the cell address in the formula is by PRE-locating the cell, then eventually typing the cell address into the formula. This is cumbersome, time-consuming and a distraction from the flow of accounting thought. So we are still hoping for a better way. I've attached two of our accounting files, (both the original file and the completed file) in case you want to forward them to your contact, but I'm not sure how useful they are without some explanation. [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass]Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate - Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu * o: 360-704-3922 * c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu * Twitter: @SBCTCWashington * Facebook: @WASBCTC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 22672 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 10667 bytes Desc: image003.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Karen McCall Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 12:12 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Athen] Excel accessibility wizard needed! This is the file I use in my accessible Excel training. I also recommend creating a linked TOC as the first worksheet. By creating the links, using your example of the instructor already creating named ranges, you could only link to the major topic areas, not all the named ranges. This would provide flexibility in either seeing all the named ranges or using the links to see/go to specific ones. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list On Behalf Of Monica Olsson Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 3:02 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Excel accessibility wizard needed! Thanks, Karen. I am mostly tracking your suggestions...and think this may be close to what the professor is already doing. Do you have an example excel file I could look at, please? Or would you consider a brief conversation with me on Zoom? Thanks again! [Title: SBCTC logo - Description: Compass]Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers) Policy Associate ? Accessible IT Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges molsson@sbctc.edu ? o: 360-704-3922 ? c: 206-914-7187 sbctc.edu ? Twitter: @SBCTCWashington ? Facebook: @WASBCTC ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Karen McCall > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 8:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Athen] Excel accessibility wizard needed! One of the things I recommend I is using named ranges or a defined name for a cell to create links to specific topics in an Excel worksheet or workbook. I typically teach that row 1 is reserved for accessibility support: cell A1 contains a description of the worksheet with any oddities. Cells B1 horizontally across row 1 contains links to specific cells in the worksheet so that someone can easily get to the point that they want. Cheers, Karen From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Monica Olsson Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 10:31 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Excel accessibility wizard needed! ATHEN colleagues, I need your help! Are you or anyone you know an Excel accessibility wizard? I am working with an Accounting professor that has done an incredible job redesigning her materials to be accessible to a blind student in her class. She has sent me specific questions about her excel files and there is a need for deeper support that is beyond my current knowledge. Her question is below and I have attached the mentioned files as well. >From professor: While we have recently discovered a feature that lets a student efficiently use range names to create formulas (eliminating the need to know WHERE a given piece of data is actually located), there are times when naming ranges is not efficient. So there are still times when we need to be able to refer to a specific location in the process of creating a formula. If the data is located on a sheet other than where the formula resides, the only way we have been able to enter the cell address in the formula is by PRE-locating the cell, then eventually typing the cell address into the formula. This is cumbersome, time-consuming and a distraction from the flow of accounting thought. So we are still hoping for a better way. 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Deibel, PhD Library Accessibility Specialist Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky From: athen-list On Behalf Of Lucy GRECO Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 12:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] looking for ideas on how to stop smap on a complaint form hello: we are getting a lot of fauls smap messages on our report a n access problem form. does any one have any godd ideas on how to have a report a problem form that can't be abused but can remain anonamiss if needed. thanks lucy Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lgreco at berkeley.edu Tue May 31 11:45:24 2022 From: lgreco at berkeley.edu (Lucy GRECO) Date: Tue May 31 11:46:05 2022 Subject: [Athen] looking for ideas on how to stop smap on a complaint form In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: sadly its not bot spam its reely people filling in the form for no access related problems. for example today i got some one filling in the form say they were bored sadly Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 11:27 AM Katherine Deibel wrote: > Honeypot techniques are pretty popular anti-spam methods that avoid the > captcha access problem. > > > > Katherine ?Kate? Deibel, PhD > > Library Accessibility Specialist > > Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky > GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Lucy GRECO > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 31, 2022 12:16 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] looking for ideas on how to stop smap on a complaint > form > > > > hello: > > we are getting a lot of fauls smap messages on our report a n access > problem form. does any one have any godd ideas on how to have a report a > problem form that can't be abused but can remain anonamiss if needed. > thanks lucy > > > > *Berkeley IT* > > *Lucy Greco*, Web Accessibility Evangelist > > Campus IT Experience > Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | > https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces > > *We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. 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Most notably, the web limiting feature of LanSchool does not seem to persist / intermittently and unexpectedly disabled's, restoring access to web traffic for the user. It also seems that, when an admin (or a user managing settings through the teacher client) enables a feature on a student machine, only that admin can disable the setting (which causes concern with the sustainability of this solution across a large organization like ours). I can spell out specifics if you use this product, but am hoping this gives enough info to know whether or not your context aligns with ours. On a semi-related note: I'm curious if your office uses a similar product to manage web and application access on testing center computers - and if so, which solution you use? Grateful for y'all! Thanks, J - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Justin Romack | Assistive Technology Coordinator Disability Resources | Texas A&M University 1224 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-1224 ph: 979.845.1637 | justinr@disability.tamu.edu | disability.tamu.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIVISION OF STUDENT AFFAIRS | One Division. One Mission. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kndeibel at metageekery.org Tue May 31 14:08:35 2022 From: kndeibel at metageekery.org (Katherine Deibel) Date: Tue May 31 14:08:40 2022 Subject: [Athen] looking for ideas on how to stop smap on a complaint form In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh? yeah. That?s hard. When I coordinated an alt format request service for a library, we had a lot of people requesting despite not being eligible for print accommodation. I?m not well aware of jerk filtering. Anonymity makes that really hard. Katherine ?Kate? Deibel, PhD Library Accessibility Specialist Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky From: athen-list On Behalf Of Lucy GRECO Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 2:45 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] looking for ideas on how to stop smap on a complaint form sadly its not bot spam its reely people filling in the form for no access related problems. for example today i got some one filling in the form say they were bored sadly Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate. On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 11:27 AM Katherine Deibel > wrote: Honeypot techniques are pretty popular anti-spam methods that avoid the captcha access problem. Katherine ?Kate? Deibel, PhD Library Accessibility Specialist Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Lucy GRECO Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 12:16 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] looking for ideas on how to stop smap on a complaint form hello: we are getting a lot of fauls smap messages on our report a n access problem form. does any one have any godd ideas on how to have a report a problem form that can't be abused but can remain anonamiss if needed. thanks lucy Berkeley IT Lucy Greco, Web Accessibility Evangelist Campus IT Experience Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. 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When I coordinated an alt format request service > for a library, we had a lot of people requesting despite not being eligible > for print accommodation. > > > > I?m not well aware of jerk filtering. Anonymity makes that really hard. > > > > Katherine ?Kate? Deibel, PhD > > Library Accessibility Specialist > > Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky > GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Lucy GRECO > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 31, 2022 2:45 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] looking for ideas on how to stop smap on a > complaint form > > > > sadly its not bot spam its reely people filling in the form for no access > related problems. for example today i got some one filling in the form say > they were bored sadly > > > > *Berkeley IT* > > *Lucy Greco*, Web Accessibility Evangelist > > Campus IT Experience > Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | > https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces > > *We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. We innovate.* > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 11:27 AM Katherine Deibel < > kndeibel@metageekery.org> wrote: > > Honeypot techniques are pretty popular anti-spam methods that avoid the > captcha access problem. > > > > Katherine ?Kate? Deibel, PhD > > Library Accessibility Specialist > > Twitter: https://twitter.com/metageeky > GitHub: https://github.com/metageeky > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Lucy GRECO > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 31, 2022 12:16 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] looking for ideas on how to stop smap on a complaint > form > > > > hello: > > we are getting a lot of fauls smap messages on our report a n access > problem form. does any one have any godd ideas on how to have a report a > problem form that can't be abused but can remain anonamiss if needed. > thanks lucy > > > > *Berkeley IT* > > *Lucy Greco*, Web Accessibility Evangelist > > Campus IT Experience > Phone: (510) 289-6008 | Email: lgreco@berkeley.edu | > https://webaccess.berkeley.edu Follow me on twitter @accessaces > > *We champion diversity. We act with integrity. We deliver. 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