[Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 220, Issue 4

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Yes! I'm trying to download two titles. The Status hasn't changed from 'In Progress' for at least 15 minutes!

Best,
Venus

Venus M. Leidy
(she, her, hers)
Testing and Accessibility Coordinator
Student Accessibility Services

Good Hall, #216
Direct Line: 814-641-5316

JUNIATA COLLEGE
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I just went there, did a search and selected a title to Read Now. All was well.

Best
George

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Hello!
Is anyone having trouble with Bookshare at the moment?

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Does anyone have a good process for working with epubs with videos embedded?
George mentioned the Daisy tool didn't handle videos well, and we've had the same problem with videos going from ePub to PDF using Calibre.

Thanks,

Eric Matson | Assistant Director - Assistive Technology & Accommodation Operations Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho
Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson at uidaho.edu|<mailto:ecmatson at uidaho.edu%7C>
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Subject: Re: [Athen] EPUB to Word utility

I am able to create ePub 3s with Word with Mathtype files using SensusAccess, if I have not made any mistakes in my creation of the mathtype. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Health and Wellness Services

I am able to create ePub 3s with Word with Mathtype files using SensusAccess, if I have not made any mistakes in my creation of the mathtype.

Susan Kelmer
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Subject: Re: [Athen] EPUB to Word utility

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This is great! Thank you!

Ramya Karthikeyan
Alternative Format Specialist
UCLA Center for Accessible Education
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Subject: RE: [Athen] EPUB to Word utility

Hi,

We at epubtest.org are updating the test books and MathML will be in the fundamental titles. We now expect all EPUB reading systems to pass. Let's see how the testing will go! This should start in June.

Best

George

From: Karthikeyan, Ramya
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Subject: Re: [Athen] EPUB to Word utility

Hello George,

Thank you for the info on how to get to EPUB to Word utility. Can't wait to try it out!

I have been experimenting with WordtoEPUB especially for Math documents in conjunction with Mathpix. Math doesn't seem to work well on all read aloud EPUB readers though. Thorium with Mathjax enabled and Books app for iOS works really well with these EPUBs and accessible.

Best,

Ramya

Ramya Karthikeyan

Alternative Format Specialist

UCLA Center for Accessible Education

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Subject: [Athen] EPUB to Word utility

Dear All,

Sorry for cross posting.

I thought folks here would be interested in this functionality.

The WordToEPUB add-in for Word, which is freely available from the DAISY Consortium, also has a EPUB to Word function.

After installing WordToEPUB:
https://daisy.org/activities/software/wordtoepub/<https://urldefense.com/v3/
__https:/daisy.org/activities/software/wordtoepub/__;!!JYXjzlvb!llkKoI0Fnq5f
yujYoQVE9WXTN66gQa8XLNMC9mn6kvcQrJ6YWAZCSuEr53mLlVcmNWEAOGJYzPXpeBWWxVp0j3PI
IZhz-w$>

When on Windows File explorer, and being on a EPUB file, the context menu will show EPUB to word. This will launch the utility. I tested with simple documents and with more complex publications. I also tested with EPUB that has MathML. It worked great.

I did have a fail with a title that had videos.

Also, WordToEPUB has the Word to HTML functionality.

Of course, the WordTOEPUB produces great, clean EPUB.

I thought there were a variety of functions for this. It might be easier to fix alt text or add long descriptions to a Word docx and then remake the EPUB. Also, having it in Word could allow for other functions.

I tested with EPUB from Bookshare.

Best

George

Best

George

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-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

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GJYzPXpeBWWxVp0j3ODD8xHLA$>

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Subject: Re: [Athen] EPUB to Word utility
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<< we've had the same problem with videos going from ePub to PDF >>

We do not recommend embedding A/V clips in PDFs at this time. The problem begins with the PDF and PDF/UA standards themselves, which were improved only recently with version 2 and are not yet fully adopted and in play by the industry. Embedding an a/v player inside the PDF file itself is troublesome, as well.

Instead, we recommend placing a static image in the EPUB/PDF that is hyperlinked to a permanent URL location where the video can be viewed with whatever the end user has set up in their device or browser. This method is pretty much seamless.

- Bevi Chagnon

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Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 3:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [Athen] EPUB to Word utility

Does anyone have a good process for working with epubs with videos embedded?
George mentioned the Daisy tool didn't handle videos well, and we've had the same problem with videos going from ePub to PDF using Calibre.

Thanks,

Eric Matson | Assistant Director - Assistive Technology & Accommodation Operations

Center for Disability Access and Resources

Division of Student Affairs

The University of Idaho

Phone: 208.885.6307 | <mailto:ecmatson at uidaho.edu%7C> ecmatson at uidaho.edu| Bruce M. Pitman Center 127

Fax: 208.885.9404

Campus Zip: 4257

Treasurer - Idaho Partnership on Higher Education and Disability

Pronouns: He / Him / His

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Subject: Re: [Athen] EPUB to Word utility

I am able to create ePub 3s with Word with Mathtype files using SensusAccess, if I have not made any mistakes in my creation of the mathtype. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Health and Wellness Services

I am able to create ePub 3s with Word with Mathtype files using SensusAccess, if I have not made any mistakes in my creation of the mathtype.

Susan Kelmer

Alternate Format Production Program Manager

Disability Services

Health and Wellness Services

T 303 735 4836

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Subject: Re: [Athen] EPUB to Word utility

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This is great! Thank you!

Ramya Karthikeyan

Alternative Format Specialist

UCLA Center for Accessible Education

424-259-5339 (Zoom Phone)

310-825-1501 (CAE line)

<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.cae.ucla.edu/__;!!JYXjzlvb!llkKoI0Fnq
5fyujYoQVE9WXTN66gQa8XLNMC9mn6kvcQrJ6YWAZCSuEr53mLlVcmNWEAOGJYzPXpeBWWxVp0j3
PEv2PC8g$> http://www.cae.ucla.edu/

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Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 7:51:41 AM
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Subject: RE: [Athen] EPUB to Word utility

Hi,

We at epubtest.org are updating the test books and MathML will be in the fundamental titles. We now expect all EPUB reading systems to pass. Let's see how the testing will go! This should start in June.

Best

George

From: Karthikeyan, Ramya <rkarthikeyan at saonet.ucla.edu <mailto:rkarthikeyan at saonet.ucla.edu> >
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 8:44 AM
To: kerscher at montana.com <mailto:kerscher at montana.com> ; Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list at u.washington.edu <mailto:athen-list at u.washington.edu> >; ahead at ahead.org <mailto:ahead at ahead.org> ; DSSHE-L at LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU <mailto:DSSHE-L at LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU>
Subject: Re: [Athen] EPUB to Word utility

Hello George,

Thank you for the info on how to get to EPUB to Word utility. Can't wait to try it out!

I have been experimenting with WordtoEPUB especially for Math documents in conjunction with Mathpix. Math doesn't seem to work well on all read aloud EPUB readers though. Thorium with Mathjax enabled and Books app for iOS works really well with these EPUBs and accessible.

Best,

Ramya

Ramya Karthikeyan

Alternative Format Specialist

UCLA Center for Accessible Education

_____

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Subject: [Athen] EPUB to Word utility

Dear All,

Sorry for cross posting.

I thought folks here would be interested in this functionality.

The WordToEPUB add-in for Word, which is freely available from the DAISY Consortium, also has a EPUB to Word function.

After installing WordToEPUB:
https://daisy.org/activities/software/wordtoepub/
<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/daisy.org/activities/software/wordtoepub
/__;!!JYXjzlvb!llkKoI0Fnq5fyujYoQVE9WXTN66gQa8XLNMC9mn6kvcQrJ6YWAZCSuEr53mLl
VcmNWEAOGJYzPXpeBWWxVp0j3PIIZhz-w$>

When on Windows File explorer, and being on a EPUB file, the context menu will show EPUB to word. This will launch the utility. I tested with simple documents and with more complex publications. I also tested with EPUB that has MathML. It worked great.

I did have a fail with a title that had videos.

Also, WordToEPUB has the Word to HTML functionality.

Of course, the WordTOEPUB produces great, clean EPUB.

I thought there were a variety of functions for this. It might be easier to fix alt text or add long descriptions to a Word docx and then remake the EPUB. Also, having it in Word could allow for other functions.

I tested with EPUB from Bookshare.

Best

George

Best

George

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.daisy.org/__;!!JYXjzlvb!llkKoI0Fnq5fy
ujYoQVE9WXTN66gQa8XLNMC9mn6kvcQrJ6YWAZCSuEr53mLlVcmNWEAOGJYzPXpeBWWxVp0j3ODD
8xHLA$> http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

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5fyujYoQVE9WXTN66gQa8XLNMC9mn6kvcQrJ6YWAZCSuEr53mLlVcmNWEAOGJYzPXpeBWWxVp0j3
P69joRBg$> http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

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zZvg$> http://www.idpf.org

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

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ujYoQVE9WXTN66gQa8XLNMC9mn6kvcQrJ6YWAZCSuEr53mLlVcmNWEAOGJYzPXpeBWWxVp0j3OZ8
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Cell:+1 406/544-2466

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Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 17:21:47 +0000
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Subject: [Athen] Position Announcement: Assistive Technology
Specialist at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville
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The University of Tennessee, Knoxville, an R1 land-grant university with
36,000 students, is looking for an Assistive Technology Specialist who will assess, recommend, and provide assistive technology solutions for students with disabilities. The position will report to the Director of Student Disability Services and will also recruit, hire, train, and manage student and temporary staff. You can find more information on the position and a link to apply here:
https://ut.taleo.net/careersection/ut_system/jobdetail.ftl?job=24000000XL.
You can also reach out to me with any questions, such as in regard to UT's salary ranges. Apologies for cross postings.

Leigh Mosley
Accessibility Coordinator
University of Tennessee Libraries
1015 Volunteer Boulevard
Knoxville, TN 37996-1000
865-974-0011
lmosley1 at utk.edu

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