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<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Hi Shawn;</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Let me answer your questions below</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana"> (my answers are in dark purple -- hope it comes through)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">: </FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> </SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [<A HREF="mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org">mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org</A>] On Behalf Of Sean Keegan<BR>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:05 PM<BR>
To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'<BR>
Subject: Re: [Athen] PDF Accessibility questions</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Hi Kathy,</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">> I am working with an MIT department that uses a lot of PDF files and am</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">trying to help</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">> them get the "cleanest" PDF files possible.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Not sure if I quite understand what you mean. Do you mean a PDF document</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">that is "tagged" according to a certain specification or do you mean a PDF</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">document that works with assistive computer technology (or a bit of both)?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">My answer: </FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">I mean a PDF document that is tagged in Acrobat</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">so it will work better with AT. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> </SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">> Sometimes, after running the accessibility check, I get an error message</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">that "Acrobat</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">> was unable to make this document accessible because it could not save page</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">structure</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">> (incorrect structure was found in PDF file). Could not save changes."</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Have you ever</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">> received a similar message and what did you do?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">I am assuming that you are referring to the Accessibility Checker in AA 7.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">The short answer is that I tend to avoid using the accessibility checker -</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">yes, it has gotten better, but it still gives a lot of "You may need to</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">check this" type responses. Also, you can get messages like "Provide</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Missing Unicode Encodings" and this cannot be fixed from within AA - not</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">very helpful.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">I prefer to save the PDF document as a Text (Accessible) file and then open</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">the file in a text editor/word processor. I spot check the document as to</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">where I have concerns with the reading order of the content. Content that a</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">screen-reader may interpret will be identified in brackets "[ ]".</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Kathy's answer:</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">That probably won't work very well if I can't use the accessibility checker in Adobe Acrobat 7.0.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana"> Many of these documents have math notation in them. I realize that screen readers will not read the math and science notation but if</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">I’m</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana"> trying to also apply some structure to the PDF, I don't know how else do that in Acrobat unless</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">I</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana"> use the accessibility checker. I don't have access to the source documents for these PDFs.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> </SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">> 2. After running an accessibility check, sometimes I get a message that</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">"there are x > number of words with characters that do not map to Unicode."</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">....Any possible</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">> solutions or suggestions on this?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">How are you creating your PDF documents? If I begin in something like MS</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Word (or InDesign) and go to PDF, I do not seem to encounter this issue.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana"> </FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> </SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Kathy's answer: </FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Some of the documents were probably created in Matlab or Latex, if they have math notation in them. </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">I suppose I am asking: What is your workflow for PDF document creation for</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">both text and math-based documents?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Kathy's answer: </FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Many of the text-based documents were created in MS Word but probably not with structure.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">> 3. I've also gotten error messages that say, "x number of elements were</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">not contained</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">> within the structure tree." Say what?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Wow - very helpful message. I have gotten this once before where some page</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">content could not be added to the tagged structure. It was not text-based,</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">so that may have been the problem (AA could not identify what it was). </FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> </SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Kathy's comment: Again, this could be due to math/science notation in the document that Acrobat doesn't know what to do with.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> </SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">> 4. I've also run OCR on a PDF that looked like it was an image only PDF</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">with some</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">> math notation. When I have run an accessibility check on the allegedly</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">OCR'ed file,</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">> the report says there are no problems, which is hardly the case when there</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">is math</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">> notation.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Hmmm - I am not sure I understand. Was there text on the page? Did that</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">content get OCR'ed correctly or did nothing get recognized? Do you have an</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">example I can play with?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Kathy's comment: There was text on the page. It seems like even after Paper Capture (OCR) was run in Acrobat, it still retains its characteristics of an image-only file.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana"> I will email you the file separately to look at.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">It sounds as if you are attempting to create PDF documents containing math</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">notation AND have these documents be accessible. I am not aware of any</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">assistive computer technologies that can read native math equations within a</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">PDF document. I know that Design Science was interested in doing some work</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">on this, but I do not know how far they have progressed.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Kathy's comment: I realize that screen readers cannot read math content. I am trying to get the text part of the PDF to be as accessible as possible.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana"> The departments that create the</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">se</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">documents</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">are going to need to create descriptive ALT tags that go with the math notation to make it meaningful, or find some other format. We are trying to push the departments to consider MathML but so far, no takers on a department level.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT COLOR="#993366" SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana"><BR>
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Thank you for your help,<BR>
Kathy</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Take care,</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Sean</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Sean Keegan</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Web Accessibility Instructor</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">High Tech Center Training Unit of the California Community Colleges </FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">-----Original Message-----</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [<A HREF="mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org">mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org</A>] On</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Behalf Of Kathleen Cahill</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:32 AM</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">To: 'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Subject: [Athen] PDF Accessibility questions</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Dear Colleagues;</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">I am working with an MIT department that uses a lot of PDF files and am</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">trying to help them get the "cleanest" PDF files possible. I would love to</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">get some feedback from those of you who regularly use the Adobe Acrobat 7.0</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">accessibility checkers and do lots of tagging and alterations of document</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">structure.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">I have some questions regarding files that originate in Microsoft Office or</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Latex format (full of math notation):</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">1. Sometimes, after running the accessibility check, I get an error message</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">that "Acrobat was unable to make this document accessible because it could</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">not save page structure (incorrect structure was found in PDF file). Could</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">not save changes." Have you ever received a similar message and what did</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">you do?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">2. After running an accessibility check, sometimes I get a message that</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">"there are x number of words with characters that do not map to Unicode."</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Acrobat suggests the user use a different font, recreate the PDF with a</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">newer version of Distiller or use the latest Adobe Post Script driver to</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">create a Post Script file, then a new PDF file. Usually, this error message</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">come through on a document with lots of math notation. Any possible</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">solutions or suggestions on this?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">3. I've also gotten error messages that say, "x number of elements were not</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">contained within the structure tree." Say what?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">4. I've also run OCR on a PDF that looked like it was an image only PDF</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">with some math notation. When I have run an accessibility check on the</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">allegedly OCR'ed file, the report says there are no problems, which is</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">hardly the case when there is math notation.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">If you have suggestions for me to try or know of any folks at Adobe I can</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">contact, I'd greatly appreciate it.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Thank you,</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Kathy Cahill</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">**************************</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">Kathleen Cahill</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Verdana">email: kcahill@mit.edu</FONT></SPAN></P>
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