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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=868254822-23012007>Hi Kathy,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=868254822-23012007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=868254822-23012007>Thanks for the information. I wanted to
distinguish between following a "standard" vs. making the PDF accessible to
AT. I can see your challenge not having access to the original
documents that may have begun as MS Word or other word processing files and then
attempting to make everything accessible via Adobe Acrobat.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=868254822-23012007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=868254822-23012007>You can add/remove tags to a PDF document without using
the Accessibility Checker.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=868254822-23012007>- Open the untagged PDF document.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=868254822-23012007>- Use the Add Tags to Document option (under Advanced
> Accessibility)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=868254822-23012007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=868254822-23012007>If there are already tags for the document, then you
will just need to check how the content is organized. I generally do this
with the TouchUp Reading Order tool.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=868254822-23012007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=868254822-23012007>- Turn on the TouchUp Reading Order tool (under
Advanced > Accessibility)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=868254822-23012007>- Visually scan the document for any major overlaps in
content of text/equations on the page. You can rezone the content using
the reading order palette for content vs.
equations/images/etc.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=868254822-23012007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=868254822-23012007>If there are equations, these may be initially
represented as "Table" or "Figure - No alternative text exists" after adding
tags to the PDF document. You can reclassify equations as "Formulas" and
then go back and add alternative text (or leave them classified as Figures and
add the appropriate text description).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=868254822-23012007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=868254822-23012007>You can also create tags manually (well, semi-manually)
by using the TouchUp Reading Order tool on a page-by-page basis. Content
that you zone and then set using the reading order palette automatically gets a
tag created in the Tags tab.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=868254822-23012007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=868254822-23012007>Hope this helps. Let me know if you have tried
this and it is not working.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT><SPAN
class=868254822-23012007>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><BR><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Take
care,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class=868254822-23012007><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Sean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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class=868254822-23012007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Kathleen Cahill
[mailto:kcahill@MIT.EDU] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 23, 2007 12:13
PM<BR><B>To:</B> skeegan@htctu.net; 'Access Technologists in Higher Education
Network'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Athen] PDF Accessibility
questions<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Hi
Shawn;</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Let me answer your
questions below</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2> (my
answers are in dark purple -- hope it comes through)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>: </FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us>
</SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [<A
href="mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org">mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org</A>]
On Behalf Of Sean Keegan<BR>Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:05 PM<BR>To:
'Access Technologists in Higher Education Network'<BR>Subject: Re: [Athen] PDF
Accessibility questions</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Hi
Kathy,</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>> I am working with
an MIT department that uses a lot of PDF files and am</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>trying to
help</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>> them get the
"cleanest" PDF files possible.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Not sure if I quite
understand what you mean. Do you mean a PDF document</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>that is "tagged"
according to a certain specification or do you mean a PDF</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>document that works
with assistive computer technology (or a bit of both)?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana color=#993366 size=2>My
answer: </FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us> <FONT face=Verdana color=#993366
size=2>I mean a PDF document that is tagged in Acrobat</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us> <FONT face=Verdana color=#993366 size=2>so it will work better with
AT. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us> </SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>> Sometimes, after
running the accessibility check, I get an error message</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>that
"Acrobat</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>> was unable to make
this document accessible because it could not save page</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>structure</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>> (incorrect
structure was found in PDF file). Could not save
changes."</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Have you
ever</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>> received a similar
message and what did you do?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>I am assuming that you
are referring to the Accessibility Checker in AA 7.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>The short answer is
that I tend to avoid using the accessibility checker -</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>yes, it has gotten
better, but it still gives a lot of "You may need to</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>check this" type
responses. Also, you can get messages like "Provide</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Missing Unicode
Encodings" and this cannot be fixed from within AA - not</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>very
helpful.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>I prefer to save the
PDF document as a Text (Accessible) file and then open</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>the file in a text
editor/word processor. I spot check the document as to</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>where I have concerns
with the reading order of the content. Content that a</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>screen-reader may
interpret will be identified in brackets "[ ]".</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana color=#993366 size=2>Kathy's
answer:</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us> <FONT face=Verdana color=#993366
size=2>That probably won't work very well if I can't use the accessibility
checker in Adobe Acrobat 7.0.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us> <FONT
face=Verdana color=#993366 size=2> Many of these documents have math notation in
them. I realize that screen readers will not read the math and science
notation but if</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us> <FONT face=Verdana color=#993366
size=2>I’m</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana color=#993366
size=2> trying to also apply some structure to the PDF, I don't know how else do
that in Acrobat unless</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us> <FONT face=Verdana
color=#993366 size=2>I</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana
color=#993366 size=2> use the accessibility checker. I don't have access
to the source documents for these PDFs.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us> <FONT face=Verdana color=#993366 size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us> </SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>> 2. After
running an accessibility check, sometimes I get a message that</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>"there are x >
number of words with characters that do not map to Unicode."</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>....Any
possible</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>> solutions or
suggestions on this?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>How are you creating
your PDF documents? If I begin in something like MS</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Word (or InDesign) and
go to PDF, I do not seem to encounter this issue.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2> </FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us>
</SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana color=#993366 size=2>Kathy's
answer: </FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us> <FONT face=Verdana color=#993366
size=2>Some of the documents were probably created in Matlab or Latex, if they
have math notation in them. </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>I suppose I am
asking: What is your workflow for PDF document creation
for</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>both text and
math-based documents?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana color=#993366 size=2>Kathy's
answer: </FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us> <FONT face=Verdana color=#993366
size=2>Many of the text-based documents were created in MS Word but probably not
with structure.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>> 3. I've also
gotten error messages that say, "x number of elements were</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>not
contained</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>> within the
structure tree." Say what?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Wow - very helpful
message. I have gotten this once before where some page</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>content could not be
added to the tagged structure. It was not text-based,</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>so that may have been
the problem (AA could not identify what it was). </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us> </SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana color=#993366 size=2>Kathy's
comment: Again, this could be due to math/science notation in the document
that Acrobat doesn't know what to do with.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us> <FONT face=Verdana color=#993366 size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-us> </SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>> 4. I've also
run OCR on a PDF that looked like it was an image only PDF</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>with
some</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>> math
notation. When I have run an accessibility check on the
allegedly</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>OCR'ed
file,</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>> the report says
there are no problems, which is hardly the case when there</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>is
math</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>>
notation.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Hmmm - I am not sure I
understand. Was there text on the page? Did that</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>content get OCR'ed
correctly or did nothing get recognized? Do you have an</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>example I can play
with?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana color=#993366 size=2>Kathy's
comment: There was text on the page. It seems like even after Paper
Capture (OCR) was run in Acrobat, it still retains its characteristics of an
image-only file.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us> <FONT face=Verdana
color=#993366 size=2> I will email you the file separately to look
at.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>It sounds as if you are
attempting to create PDF documents containing math</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>notation AND have these
documents be accessible. I am not aware of any</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>assistive computer
technologies that can read native math equations within a</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>PDF document. I
know that Design Science was interested in doing some work</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>on this, but I do not
know how far they have progressed.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana color=#993366 size=2>Kathy's
comment: I realize that screen readers cannot read math content. I
am trying to get the text part of the PDF to be as accessible as
possible.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us> <FONT face=Verdana color=#993366
size=2> The departments that create the</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT
face=Verdana color=#993366 size=2>se</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT
face=Verdana color=#993366 size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us> <FONT
face=Verdana color=#993366 size=2>documents</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us> <FONT
face=Verdana color=#993366 size=2>are going to need to create descriptive ALT
tags that go with the math notation to make it meaningful, or find some other
format. We are trying to push the departments to consider MathML but so
far, no takers on a department level.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us> <FONT
face=Verdana color=#993366 size=2><BR><BR>Thank you for your
help,<BR>Kathy</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-us></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Take
care,</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Sean</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Sean
Keegan</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Web Accessibility
Instructor</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>High Tech Center
Training Unit of the California Community Colleges </FONT></SPAN></P><BR>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>-----Original
Message-----</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>From:
athen-bounces@athenpro.org [<A
href="mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org">mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org</A>]
On</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Behalf Of Kathleen
Cahill</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Sent: Tuesday, January
23, 2007 8:32 AM</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>To: 'Access
Technologists in Higher Education Network'</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Subject: [Athen] PDF
Accessibility questions</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Dear
Colleagues;</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>I am working with an
MIT department that uses a lot of PDF files and am</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>trying to help them get
the "cleanest" PDF files possible. I would love to</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>get some feedback from
those of you who regularly use the Adobe Acrobat 7.0</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>accessibility checkers
and do lots of tagging and alterations of document</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>structure.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>I have some questions
regarding files that originate in Microsoft Office or</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Latex format (full of
math notation):</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>1. Sometimes,
after running the accessibility check, I get an error message</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>that "Acrobat was
unable to make this document accessible because it could</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>not save page structure
(incorrect structure was found in PDF file). Could</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>not save
changes." Have you ever received a similar message and what
did</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>you
do?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>2. After running
an accessibility check, sometimes I get a message that</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>"there are x number of
words with characters that do not map to Unicode."</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Acrobat suggests the
user use a different font, recreate the PDF with a</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>newer version of
Distiller or use the latest Adobe Post Script driver to</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>create a Post Script
file, then a new PDF file. Usually, this error message</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>come through on a
document with lots of math notation. Any possible</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>solutions or
suggestions on this?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>3. I've also
gotten error messages that say, "x number of elements were not</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>contained within the
structure tree." Say what?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>4. I've also run
OCR on a PDF that looked like it was an image only PDF</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>with some math
notation. When I have run an accessibility check on the</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>allegedly OCR'ed file,
the report says there are no problems, which is</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>hardly the case when
there is math notation.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>If you have suggestions
for me to try or know of any folks at Adobe I can</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>contact, I'd greatly
appreciate it.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Thank
you,</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Kathy
Cahill</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>**************************</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Kathleen
Cahill</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>MIT ATIC (Adaptive
Technology) Lab</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Verdana size=2>77 Mass. Ave.
7-143</FONT></SPAN></P>
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