<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Bear in mind that the Windows version of Safari is still a beta. <div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#666666">_______________</font></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#666666">Charles Silverman, M.Ed.</font></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#666666">SNOW Coordinator - <a href="http://snow.utoronto.ca">http://snow.utoronto.ca</a></font></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#666666">Adaptive Technology Resource Centre</font></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#666666">Faculty of Information, University of Toronto</font></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 15px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><i style="font-family: Arial; font-style: italic; ; font-size: 15px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2" style="font-size: 12px; ; font-family: Arial; font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#666666">"</font></span></font></i></font><i style="font-style: italic; ; font-size: 15px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2" style="font-size: 12px; ; font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#666666">'I would buy a Mac if I didn't work for Microsoft" </font></span></font></i></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 15px; "><i style="font-style: italic; ; font-size: 15px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2" style="font-size: 12px; ; font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#666666"> -</font></span></font></i><i style="font-style: italic; ; font-size: 15px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2" style="font-size: 12px; ; font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#666666">James Allchin- Microsoft</font></span></font></i><i style="font-style: italic; ; font-size: 15px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2" style="font-size: 12px; ; font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#666666"> development chief who oversaw Vista</font></span></font></i></div><div><br><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Message: 4</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:15:10 -0500</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">From: DickBanks <<a href="mailto:dick.banks@gmail.com">dick.banks@gmail.com</a>></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Subject: Re: [Athen] Apple Safari Accessibility?</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">To: Access Technologists in Higher Education Network</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><<a href="mailto:athen@athenpro.org">athen@athenpro.org</a>></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:466ed40f.63c7481b.4d02.2cd5@mx.google.com">466ed40f.63c7481b.4d02.2cd5@mx.google.com</a>></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">You are correct Kevin. Safari for Windows is not usable with speech.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Shouldn't be a surprise.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Dick<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">"Kevin Price" <<a href="mailto:pricek@uic.edu">pricek@uic.edu</a>> wrote:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">(06/12/2007 12:05)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I just downloaded the new Web browser Apple Safari and think it looks<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">nice</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">visually but all my accessibility concerns are there. Just tried JAWS<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">and I</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">hear nothing.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Is this another slick product that left accessibility behind?</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Kevin Price MSW, ATP</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Assistive Technology Specialist</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Disability Resource Center (MC 321)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">University of Illinois at Chicago</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Suite 1190, Student Services Building</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1200 West Harrison Street</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Chicago, Illinois<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>60607-7163</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">(312) 413-0886 <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Fax (312) 413-7781</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Email:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:pricek@uic.edu">pricek@uic.edu</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; 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