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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks Tom it seems that it all still has a way to go. I will
keep collecting information and hopefully the process will continue to move
forward.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom
Whalen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 08, 2009 9:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> athen@athenpro.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Athen] MathML<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I wanted to note
that my experience with MathType was less than favorable, although I was trying
to create nemeth, as opposed to audio Math. Scientific Notebook did a far
superior job, as MsthType rendered many errors in producing problem sets for a
developmental Algebra class. I contacted the folks at Duxbury and they agreed
that there were still some bugs in the transition from MathType to nemeth.<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:58:13 -0400<br>
From: "Ron Stewart" <ron@ahead.org><br>
Subject: Re: [Athen] MathML<br>
To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'"<br>
<athen@athenpro.org><br>
Cc: 'John Paul Harris' <John.P.Harris@Colorado.EDU><br>
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One more comment on this, I am moving totally away from Scientific Notebook<br>
and entirely to MathType and Infty. The feedback I have been getting in
the<br>
last few months is that SN does not give a full enough symbol set. I
would<br>
like to hear from other perspectives on this. <br>
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Ron <br>
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From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On<br>
Behalf Of Catherine M. Stager Kilcommons<br>
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 6:29 PM<br>
To: athen@athenpro.org<br>
Cc: John Paul Harris<br>
Subject: [Athen] mathml<br>
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<br>
I had to play with this quite a bit this year- we were not getting
very<br>
good results. We were creating the LATex with Scientific Notebook, then<br>
ended putting it into Nemeth despite our student's preference, because she<br>
was not able to get JAWS to read the MathML we created this way. The MathML<br>
rendered correctly visually but did not read right with MathPlayer or with<br>
Mozilla (Opera still has some major rendering bugs - errors - evidently).<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
However, I was able to get both Read and Write and JAWS to read the the<br>
MathML at <a href="http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/">http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/</a>
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Using the itex subset of LaTex then using itextomml, you can get good<br>
MathML. The rendering in Mozilla becomes JAWS friendly at that point<br>
(Firefox 3.0). From the above listed page.<br>
<br>
---SNIP----<br>
<br>
"Posts with this logo use MathML. To see the equations, you either need<br>
Mozilla or a MathML plugin for IE/Win. You will also need to install some<br>
fonts.<br>
<br>
The posts were authored in itex (an extension of WebTeX) using the itexToMML<br>
Text Filter plugin for MovableType (the README file). "<br>
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Hope there is other good news out there on this front!<br>
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Best,<br>
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Cath<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:31:44 -0700<br>
From: "Wink Harner" <wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu><br>
Subject: [Athen] online readiness surveys<br>
To: "ATHEN" <athen@athenpro.org>, DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU<br>
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Hi all ATHENites and DSSHEs,<br>
<br>
Have any of you run across or developed an online readiness survey for your<br>
students with disabilities to take in advance of their signing up for online<br>
classes? Can you recommend questions to ask? I'm working on a research project<br>
for our CTL (center for teaching & learning) to add info. for the faculty<br>
from a student readiness perspective.<br>
<br>
Any surveys or info you can provide is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance<br>
for your collective wisdom.<br>
<br>
Blessings in abundance,<br>
<br>
Wink<br>
Ms. Wink Harner<br>
Manager<br>
Disability Resources & Services<br>
Mesa Community College<br>
Mesa AZ<br>
480-461-7447<br>
wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 15:49:19 +1000<br>
From: Paul Harpur <p.harpur@qut.edu.au><br>
Subject: Re: [Athen] online readiness surveys<br>
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen@athenpro.org>,<br>
"DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU" <DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU><br>
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Gday Wink,<br>
<br>
I?m totally blind so from a print disability perspective I found important
questions were:<br>
<br>
Is there a prescribed textbook and are the readings available electronically;<br>
If they are color blind they should make sure they tell the professor so they
can avoid putting green and reed on power points;<br>
If the professor is referring to power points ask the professor to either make
the power points available before class or make sure they read out the content
in the class.<br>
<br>
I?m now in academia but some problems I find other students have are:<br>
Not all rooms have sufficient power sockets for every laptop so I used to carry
a power board;<br>
Make sure the student can access the website using their adaptive
technology. If they are not up to speed with that they are in major
problems. There are people who can provide training on adaptive
technology and it is great to get trained.<br>
Leave sufficient time to get mobilized around campus.<br>
<br>
I attach a short manual I developed for law students at my university,<br>
<br>
Paul.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
________________________________________<br>
From: athen-bounces@athenpro.org [athen-bounces@athenpro.org] On Behalf Of Wink
Harner [wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu]<br>
Sent: Saturday, 6 June 2009 11:31 AM<br>
To: ATHEN; DSSHE-L@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU<br>
Subject: [Athen] online readiness surveys<br>
<br>
Hi all ATHENites and DSSHEs,<br>
<br>
Have any of you run across or developed an online readiness survey for your<br>
students with disabilities to take in advance of their signing up for online<br>
classes? Can you recommend questions to ask? I'm working on a research project<br>
for our CTL (center for teaching & learning) to add info. for the faculty<br>
from a student readiness perspective.<br>
<br>
Any surveys or info you can provide is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance<br>
for your collective wisdom.<br>
<br>
Blessings in abundance,<br>
<br>
Wink<br>
Ms. Wink Harner<br>
Manager<br>
Disability Resources & Services<br>
Mesa Community College<br>
Mesa AZ<br>
480-461-7447<br>
wink.harner@mcmail.maricopa.edu<br>
<br>
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