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<p><big><font color="#000000" face="Arial">Very interesting. I posted
a message to our faculty listserv sharing the information about R as an
alternative to SPSS yesterday evening. </font></big></p>
<p><big><font color="#000000" face="Arial">Today, I received an email
from Kyle Weeks, </font></big><small><font color="navy" face="Arial"
size="2"><small><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><big><big><font
color="#000000">Director of Product Strategy for
the PASW Statistics (formerly SPSS). He was asking what problems
screen reader had using PASW (formerly SPSS) and stating they tested
extensively with JAWS. I suggested that if he was interested in
learning more about the user experience, he might consider contacting
AFB to see about conducting a survey of screen reader users who use
their product.</font></big></big></span></small></font></small></p>
<p><small><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><small><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"></span></small></font></small></p>
<p><small><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><small><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><big><big><font
color="#000000">It seems like a rather odd way to do public
relations. But if any of you do want to share first-hand experiences,
he can be contacted at: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:kweeks@spss.com">kweeks@spss.com</a><br>
</font></big></big></span></small></font></small></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"></span></small></font></small></p>
<p><small><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><small><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><big><big><font
color="#000000">Melanie</font></big></big></span></small></font></small></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"></span></font></p>
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John Gardner wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:4A411701.5020503@orst.edu" type="cite">Apparently
there is a lot of interest in R, since I have had several inquiries
from my post yesterday. Unfortunately I really am pretty ignorant of
statistics - I was just parroting what I have heard on other lists.
However I can tell you that R is free software for doing statistical
computations, graphing, printing the graphics, etc. It is claimed that
R can do anything that SPS can do.
<br>
<br>
There are R versions for Unix, Mac, and Windows. Following Melanie's
URL below I found a Windows FAQ for R:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cran.r-project.org/bin/windows/base/rw-FAQ.html">http://cran.r-project.org/bin/windows/base/rw-FAQ.html</a>
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which may be helpful. At least this FAQ tells you how to obtain and
install the Windows version of R. There is a manual and help files, so
presumably one can learn to use it if one knows about statistical
computation.
<br>
<br>
I have asked Jonathan Godfrey for more information and will forward it
to this list if/when I hear back. All I know for sure is that he uses
R in terminal mode and finds it very accessible to screen readers.
Terminal mode is old-fashioned, so most non-disabled users will use the
fancy GUI interface. But the terminal mode can do anything that can be
done with the GUI interface.
<br>
<br>
John
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On 6/23/2009 9:13 AM, Melanie Thornton wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite"> This discussion triggered a discussion on
our campus and someone
<br>
posted this link for "R" with web interfaces. I have no idea how
helpful
<br>
they are but wanted to pass the link along:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cran.r-project.org/doc/FAQ/R-FAQ.html#R-Web-Interfaces">http://cran.r-project.org/doc/FAQ/R-FAQ.html#R-Web-Interfaces</a>
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<br>
Melanie Thornton
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John Gardner wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hello James. This subject is discussed
frequently on the Blind Math
<br>
list. Yes SPS works with Jaws, but no it is not useful. At least that
<br>
is my synthesis of the discussions. As seems common these days, SPS is
<br>
accessible only in principle. ie it's nearly impossible to use unless
<br>
you are a real computer geek. And if you are really a computer geek,
<br>
you use "R" instead. It is free, works great, and is really
<br>
accessible. Jonathan Godfrey, a blind faculty member from New Zealand,
<br>
is the lists's R expert, and I'm happy to put you in contact if you
<br>
need help with R.
<br>
<br>
John
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On 6/22/2009 1:59 PM, James Bailey wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">I seem to be conflicting info as to
whether JAWS works with SPSS.
<br>
What's the consensus of the group?
<br>
<br>
Thanks,
<br>
<br>
James
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