<html><head><base href="x-msg://6/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>For what it's worth, the iPad version actually is an online version. On the FAQ page (<a href="http://www.coursesmart.com/go/ipad/FAQ.html">http://www.coursesmart.com/go/ipad/FAQ.html</a>) I read:</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><b>"Do I need the internet to use the app?"</b><br>Yes. CourseSmart is authorized to provide access to eTextbooks on a subscription basis. We need the internet to verify your free student or instructor account.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>...so I gather that the books may not actually reside on the iPad itself, as with Apple's iBooks, but "in the cloud".</div><div><br></div><div>Also, the "We Apologize..." statement applies to all their eBooks, not just the iPad version. There's a tiny "Accessibility" link at the bottom of their homepage.</div><div><br></div><div>- Shelley</div><div><br></div><div>
<div><div><div><div>_____________________________</div><div>Shelley Haven ATP, RET</div><div>Assistive Technology Consultant</div><div><a href="http://www.TechPotential.net">www.TechPotential.net</a></div></div><div><br></div></div></div>
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<br><div><div>On Apr 11, 2010, at 6:44 AM, Pratik Patel wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Verdana; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">This statement concerns me: "</span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', serif; ">We apologize for any inconvenience and request your patience while CourseSmart develops an online application that will provide an accessible eTextbook user experience. Please contact the publisher directly to request accessible versions of the textbooks featured on CourseSmart."<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', serif; ">In my opinion, it is not adequate to have a separate system for students with disabilities. If apple has managed to find a way to make iBooks accessible, then it is possible for the iPad version of this software and the associated content to be accessible. A separate webified version does not serve the same purpose nor would provide the same type of usability features on the iPad as the app.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', serif; ">Pratik<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">athen-bounces@athenpro.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ron Stewart<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:12 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'Access Technology Higher Education Network'<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Athen] CourseSmart textbooks on the iPad - but...<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Will have to check it out, unfortunately the conversations with CourseSmart started over three years ago and still no progress and last time I checked no real progress either.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Ron Stewart<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">athen-bounces@athenpro.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Shelley Haven<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, April 11, 2010 1:02 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Access Technology Higher Education Network<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Athen] CourseSmart textbooks on the iPad - but...<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I thought this would be of interest -- at any rate, something to keep an eye on. CourseSmart released an iPad app that allows students to not only read their textbooks on an iPad, but also add and edit notes while they read and hunt for information with keyword searches. Great!<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><a href="http://www.coursesmart.com/go/ipad/index.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.coursesmart.com/go/ipad/index.html</a><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Though you need a CourseSmart account and e-textbook subscription to actually use it, the app includes a free demo with samples from five college-level textbooks (you can read text and notes, but can't take new notes).<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">However, I also noticed an important caveat in the "fine print":<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><h1 style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 24pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(1, 32, 67); ">Accessibility<o:p></o:p></span></h1><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">Users with disabilities may experience difficulty with accessing the current version of CourseSmart. We apologize for any inconvenience and request your patience while CourseSmart develops an online application that will provide an accessible eTextbook user experience.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">Please contact the publisher directly to request accessible versions of the textbooks featured on CourseSmart.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">So I guess they are getting to where we want them to be, but are not quite there yet.</span></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">- Shelley</span></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">_____________________________<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">Shelley Haven ATP, RET<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">Assistive Technology Consultant<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><a href="http://www.TechPotential.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.TechPotential.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Athen mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Athen@athenpro.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Athen@athenpro.org</a><br><a href="http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org</a><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></body></html>