<html><head><base href="x-msg://3/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Teresa,<div><br></div><div>Can you send an example of a PowerPoint presentation that has the problem? If you don't want to post it to the list you can send it to me directly.</div><div><br></div><div>Greg</div><div><br></div><div><div>On Sep 29, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Teresa Haven wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" vlink="purple" link="blue"><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="970470217-29092010"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Hi, Sharon. Another person and I were just having that same conversation off-list. The thing is, this doesn't appear to be a case of textboxes being used, which is why I'm stumped...</font></span></div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="970470217-29092010"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="970470217-29092010"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Thanks for the input, though, it's always something to share with faculty to help them with the process.</font></span></div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="970470217-29092010"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="970470217-29092010"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Teresa</font></span></div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="970470217-29092010"><p style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</font></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D.</font></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">Supervisor, Alternate Format Program</font></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">Disability Resource Center</font></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">Arizona State University<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font></span><br><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</font></span></p></span></div><br><div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"><hr tabindex="-1"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sharon Trerise [mailto:trerise@cayuga-cc.edu]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:01 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Teresa Haven<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: PowerPoint slides question<br></font><br></div><div></div><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">If you add text to a slide using Insert / Textbox, then the text will not show up on the outline and it will not be available to a screen reader. If you only use the boxes that appear on the template, then all the text should be accessible. … at least that is my experience with PPT 2003 version.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Sharon<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Sharon Trerise<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Coordinator of Disability Services<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Cayuga Community College<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">197 Franklin St.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Auburn, NY 13021<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">315-294-8606<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-width: medium; border-right-style: none; border-right-color: initial; padding-right: 0in; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-style: solid; padding-left: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; border-left-width: medium; border-left-style: none; border-left-color: initial; padding-top: 3pt; border-bottom-width: medium; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-color: initial; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">athen-bounces@athenpro.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:athen-bounces@athenpro.org]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Teresa Haven<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:20 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Access Technology Higher Education Network<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Athen] PowerPoint slides question<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Aloha, all. I have an odd question that I hope someone can help with. I'm regularly asked to review various professors' Blackboard sites for the accessibility of their course content. I've recently started to see Powerpoint slide shows where some slides have all the text accessible, some slides have only part of the text accessible and part not, and some slides are completely inaccessible (blank in Outline view). In almost every case, the prof will have been using the same basic template for every slide, and producing very "clean" slides -- just a title at the top and three or four bullet points of text. Some profs are using Office 2007 and a few may still be using Office 2003. Does anyone have a clue what could be causing this erratic accessibility issue, and more importantly, suggestions on how to resolve it? I'm trying very hard to coach faculty to produce accessible materials in the first place, and they're trying to comply, but this problem is growing and retrofitting by re-typing the slide content into Word docs and distributing to students is not a reasonable solution at this time. </span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Many thanks for any ideas you might be able to share,</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Teresa</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "> <o:p></o:p></div></div><p style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D.</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Supervisor, Alternate Format Program</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Disability Resource Center</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Arizona State University<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; "> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Athen mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Athen@athenpro.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Athen@athenpro.org</a><br><a href="http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://athenpro.org/mailman/listinfo/athen_athenpro.org</a><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br><div>
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