<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Greg et al,</div><div><br></div><div>I'm interested in being part of this effort as well.<br><br>Terrill Thompson</div><div>Technology Accessibility Specialist </div><div>University of Washington</div><div><br>On May 10, 2011, at 10:48 AM, "Ron Stewart" <<a href="mailto:ron@ahead.org">ron@ahead.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks for those of you who stepped up to the plate on this, Greg since you already volunteered do you want to pull something together. Before we move forward under the ATHEN umbrella I want to make sure everyone is on the same page. It probably would be best to setup a smaller discussion group on this topic as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ron <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu</a> [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gunderson, Jon R<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 10, 2011 7:57 AM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Athen] Repost: Google Apps Evaluation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If we coordinate our accessibility efforts with Google we will be able to prioritize the accessibility features they work on and be able to help Google understand that this is a long term effort and responsibility.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu</a> [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>scott williams<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:21 AM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Repost: Google Apps Evaluation<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The University of Michigan is in contract negotiations with Google. We told them that we were holding off negotiations until they could show us an accessible version of Google Apps. I expect to be a member of the pilot here on campus so I can evaluate its accessibility before a campus-wide rollout. They are trying to publish a more accessible version of Google Apps by fall. I am going to wait to evaluate the updated version (or a substantial number of micro-upgrades). I do know that they are working closely with the NFB to reach a settlement, so I do expect real change, but the proof is in the pudding. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I think we surprised them with our firm stance, but we told them that even though the NFB is happy with Google's progress, that wouldn't stop the NFB from coming at us should a student file a complaint here. And that is not a risk we're going to take. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I would be very interested in participating in this group. I agree with Jon and Greg that Google would welcome the effort, and it will help keep them on the right track. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Scott<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Greg Kraus <<a href="mailto:greg_kraus@ncsu.edu"><a href="mailto:greg_kraus@ncsu.edu">greg_kraus@ncsu.edu</a></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Ron,<br><br>I've been talking with some members of the Google Apps for Education<br>Team about this and have offered to coordinate with ATHEN an<br>accessibility interest group to work with Google like we have done<br>with Blackboard and Elluminate/Blackboard. We are a Google Apps campus<br>so we definitely have a vested interest in this. So far Google has not<br>taken me up on this offer.<br><br>I can say that Google is keenly aware of the issue and is trying to<br>address it. We at NC State have built some relationships with the<br>Google Apps for Education Team so I am happy to coordinate an ATHEN<br>interest group if others are interested in participating.<br><br>Greg<br><span style="color:#888888"><br>--<br>Greg Kraus<br>University IT Accessibility Coordinator<br>Office of Information Technology<br>North Carolina State University<br><a href="tel:919.513.4087">919.513.4087</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><br>On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Sean J Keegan <<a href="mailto:skeegan@stanford.edu"><a href="mailto:skeegan@stanford.edu">skeegan@stanford.edu</a></a>> wrote:<br>> Good morning folks, hope you are staying above water!<br>><br>> I have received several request for ATHEN or another unbiased group to do an<br>> objective evaluation of the accessibility of the current version of Google<br>> Apps. This would be of a similar nature of our work on the iTunes work we<br>> did a few years back. If you are aware of anyone who has already done a<br>> compressive, cross disability evaluation that is great and I will pass that<br>> on to those who have inquired.<br>><br>> At this point I am needing someone who has the time and available bandwidth<br>> to take a project of this nature on and to be the leader of the project.<br>><br>> Ron Stewart<br>><br>> ************************************************************************<br>> Ron Stewart<br>> Managing Consultant<br>> Altformat Solutions LLC<br>><br>> 8300 West Weller St<br>> Yorktown, IN 47396<br>> Mobile: <a href="tel:609%20213-2190">609 213-2190</a><br>> Fax: <a href="tel:765%20405-1484">765 405-1484</a><br>><br>> <a href="mailto:ron@altformatsolutions.com"><a href="mailto:ron@altformatsolutions.com">ron@altformatsolutions.com</a></a><br>> <a href="http://www.altformatsolutions.com" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.altformatsolutions.com">www.altformatsolutions.com</a></a><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> athen-list mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu"><a href="mailto:athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu">athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu</a></a><br>> <a href="http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list" target="_blank"><a href="http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list">http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list</a></a><br>><br>_______________________________________________<br>athen-list mailing list<br><a href="mailto:athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu"><a href="mailto:athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu">athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu</a></a><br><a href="http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list" target="_blank"><a href="http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list">http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list</a></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Scott Williams<br>Web Accessibility Coordinator<br>Office of Institutional Equity<br>University of Michigan<br>734.764.0051<br><a href="mailto:swims@umich.edu" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:swims@umich.edu">swims@umich.edu</a></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><ATT00001.c></div></blockquote></body></html>