<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>And I really like Gaier's solution, BTW! Empowerment and self-advocacy are the key.<br><br>Wink<br><br><br><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Wink Harner" <winkharner@mesacc.edu><br><b>To: </b>"Access Technology Higher Education Network" <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, November 8, 2011 6:03:21 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [Athen] Firefly question related to assisting general education population<br><br>Just an FYI the books in digital format directly from publishers are NOT<br>pdf reader accessible or compatible and nothing our offices can do can<br>crack the code to make a screen reader work on them. Sorry to be the<br>bearer of discouraging news...you've got such a great array of programs<br>and are so enthusiastic about finding a resource for these undiagnosed low<br>readers. When students get a CD/DVD format book, all it really allows them<br>to do is read it on a computer instead of in paper format.<br><br><br>Wink<br><br>Ms. Wink Harner<br>Manager<br>Disability Resources & Services<br>Mesa Community College<br>1833 W. Southern Avenue<br>Mesa AZ 85202<br><br>480-461-7447<br>Fax: 480-461-7907<br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu<br>[mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Dawes,<br>Brenda<br>Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 5:53 PM<br>To: athen-list@u.washington.edu<br>Subject: [Athen] Firefly question related to assisting general education<br>population<br><br>I'm new to the list - please forgive if the answer has been discussed<br>already, but the Firefly topic fits along with the current issue I'm<br>working on which is figuring out how to use literacy software at the<br>college level to help struggling students that are not diagnosed with a<br>print disability and not receiving services from university student<br>disability services. Do you have advice on what the best steps are for<br>obtaining their textbook in digital format since they won't be eligible<br>for Bookshare? Can one successfully use "fair use" to scan chapters of the<br>textbook and convert it to use in one of these literacy software tools? We<br>have WYNN, Kurzweil, Read Write Gold, and Read Outloud, Cowriter, Write<br>Outloud, Draft Builder, and just learned about University Read Ou loud and<br>Cowriter today. Is it best to have the student request the book store<br>request the publisher's digital format - i.e. PDF, Html, etc. ? Any advice<br>on what the favorite software tools are for students who can benefit from<br>these literacy support products?<br><br>Brenda Dawes, Oklahoma ABLE Tech<br>Program Manager<br>1514 W. Hall of Fame Stillwater, OK 74078<br>405.744.5170 or 800.257.1705<br>brenda.dawes@okstate.edu<br>http://okabletech.okstate.edu<br>_______________________________________________<br>athen-list mailing list<br>athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu<br>http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list<br>_______________________________________________<br>athen-list mailing list<br>athen-list@mailman1.u.washington.edu<br>http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list<br></div><br></div></body></html>