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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Amen to everything Gaeir says, and one more note: definitely work with the student to find out if tactiles are useful or desired no matter how much you think
they might be beneficial. I had a student awhile back who was a fine and fluent Braille reader but absolutely hated tactiles – would rather have nothing at all, and would simply skip the graphics in a book rather than try to work with them no matter how simple
or how well rendered, in 2D or 3D. On the other hand, I have a student now taking extremely technical courses who begs us to survey her books and provide the graphics in tactile format FIRST if we can’t get them to her at the same time as the Braille; to
her they are more important than the text because as she says, she can always scan the text and OCR it herself or have a classmate read something to her, but the graphics need to come to her in a way she can use them.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Lucia’s materia</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">ls are gold, definitely learn what you can from her!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Supervisor, Alternative Format Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Disability Resource Center<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Arizona State University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gaeir Dietrich<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 05, 2012 2:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Athen] Tactile Graphics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Probably the reason you are not getting more responses is that few colleges actually do tactiles. So, here is more info…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Just as a rule of thumb, graphics that show relationships are often presented best as tactile graphics include the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">* mathematical charts and graphs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">* maps
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">* scientific diagrams
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Ironically, it often works out that the more technical a subject is, the more the tactile graphics are necessary.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Teresa is absolutely right that other than those situations, the best solution is most often a good description.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Also be aware that if a student has not had experience with tactile graphics, s/he may not be particularly comfortable with them. You can help with the learning
curve by creating more three-dimensional tactiles, using collage techniques.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">As an example of what I mean, one of our alt media specialists was working with a blind student who was taking anatomy and physiology. The student was not used to
using tactile graphics and found the PIAF versions too hard to understand. What they ended up doing is working first with the 3-D models the campus owned, then creating representative collage graphics (gluing things on paper—for the female reproductive system,
for instance, they used narrow rubber tubing for the fallopian tubes and cotton balls for the ovaries, etc.), and then transitioning to the PIAF versions. The student was able to “grok” how the graphics worked and was fine with the PIAF versions after that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">BANA now has guidelines (thanks to my hero, Lucia!!! ;-) for tactile graphics:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"><a href="http://www.brailleauthority.org/tg/index.html">http://www.brailleauthority.org/tg/index.html</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Also be aware that American Printing House for the Blind (APH) has an image library for tactile graphics:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"><a href="http://www.aph.org/tgil/">http://www.aph.org/tgil/</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">They also sell premade tactile graphics. The anatomy tactiles are particularly useful for college-level work.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">A great product that they sell allows you to create quick tactile graphics on the fly, as well as being suitable for students to use. APH calls it the Draftsman
Tactile Drawing Board. I have used a similar product for years called the Sewell Raised Line Drawing Kit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Finally, APH has a two-video set called the “Good Tactile Graphic” that is a very useful primer on creating tactile graphics. When I was doing tactile graphics trainings,
I would actually use the videos because they gave such a great overview of how one needs to think in order to create tactiles.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Hope this helps!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich<br>
High Tech Center Training Unit of the<br>
California Community Colleges<br>
De Anza College, Cupertino, CA<br>
<a href="http://www.htctu.net/"><span style="color:black;text-decoration:none">www.htctu.net</span></a> <br>
408-996-6043<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julie Balassa<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Athen] Tactile Graphics</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We use Adobe Illustrator to create the graphics and PIAF to output them (thanks for the tip some years back Gaeir, that system has worked really well!) Whether
you give the student TG or a description really depends on the complexity of the graphics and the preference and skill set of the student.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Harlow Solid Italic";color:#005024">jkb<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Harlow Solid Italic";color:#005024"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Harlow Solid Italic";color:#005024">Julie K. Balassa</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005024"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005024">Assistant Director, Office for Students with Disabilities<br>
Valencia College<br>
Mail Code 3-31<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005024">701 N Econlockhatchee Trail<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005024">Orlando, FL 32825<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005024">office: building 5 suite 216<br>
east: 407.582.2039<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005024">west: 407.582.1603<br>
vp east: 407.374.1562<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005024">vp west: 407-992-8941<br>
</span></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00602B">fax: 407.582.8908<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00602B"><a href="mailto:jbalassa@valenciacollege.edu">jbalassa@valenciacollege.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00602B">http://valenciacc.edu/osd<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Please note that Valencia’s name changed to Valencia College on July 1, 2011. Therefore, all college email addresses have changed. My new email address
is <a href="mailto:jbalassa@valenciacollege.edu"><span style="color:black">jbalassa@valenciacollege.edu</span></a>. Please send all email to me at this new address. As of September 2011, all email sent to
<a href="mailto:jbalassa@valenciacc.edu"><span style="color:black">jbalassa@valenciacc.edu</span></a> will be returned as undeliverable.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Teresa Haven<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Athen] Tactile Graphics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi, Karen and all. We use a couple of different technologies: a PIAF and swell paper, or a Tiger embosser, both used by people trained in producing tactile
graphics. For many graphics tactiles are not necessary; the content in the image can be appropriately described in text by trained personnel.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hope this helps,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Teresa<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Supervisor, Alternative Format Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Disability Resource Center<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Arizona State University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu</a>
<a href="mailto:%5bmailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu%5d">[mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu]</a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Karen Sorensen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 05, 2012 11:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Tactile Graphics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi -<br>
Thanks to Gaeir for the reply. What do others do to make graphics accessible to blind and low-vision students?
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Wink - Gaeir is the only person who replied. What have you used in the past? Are there services that people outsource graphics to?
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Thanks,<br>
Karen<br>
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<span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"">Karen M. Sorensen<br>
Instructional Technology Specialist <br>
Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses<br>
Portland Community College<br>
971-722-4720</span><br>
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Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:49:46 -0700 (MST)<br>
From: "Wink Harner" <<a href="mailto:winkharner@mesacc.edu">winkharner@mesacc.edu</a>><br>
Subject: RE: [Athen] tactile graphics<br>
To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'"<br>
<<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
Message-ID: <008801cccb2a$c688c9a0$<o:p></o:p></p>
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Did you find anyone to answer your questions yet, Karen?<br>
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Wink<br>
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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:24:11 -0800<br>
From: "Gaeir Dietrich" <<a href="mailto:gdietrich@htctu.net">gdietrich@htctu.net</a>><br>
Subject: RE: [Athen] tactile graphics<br>
To: "'Access Technology Higher Education Network'"<br>
<<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:6AE2716D4AE64AD79AE0CD4443907AC4@htctu.fhda.edu">6AE2716D4AE64AD79AE0CD4443907AC4@htctu.fhda.edu</a>><br>
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I do like the IVEO system for creating talking tactile graphics for<br>
students. One of my favorite features is the fact that you can add text to<br>
your graphic that will then be read as text-to-speech. Some of the competing<br>
products only allow recorded audio in the talking graphic, which I find much<br>
more cumbersome.<br>
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Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich<br>
High Tech Center Training Unit of the<br>
California Community Colleges<br>
De Anza College, Cupertino, CA<br>
<<a href="http://www.htctu.net/" target="_blank">http://www.htctu.net/</a>> <a href="http://www.htctu.net/" target="_blank">
www.htctu.net</a><br>
<a href="tel:408-996-6043">408-996-6043</a><br>
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<o:p></o:p></p>
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