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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I have had difficulty convincing the student that his emotional attachment to his MAC (which will not, as he claims, work math with Voice Over) should be abandoned in favor of actual access to the material. Stubbornness be dam*ed!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Wink<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Teresa Haven<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Athen] math speak for MAC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hey, Wink. We are using MathType for input, creating HTML with MathML content (MathPage), then having students use Internet Explorer (sorry, on PC) with MathPlayer enabled along with JAWS to listen to full math. Has worked really well for several of our blind students, but I haven’t yet found anything quite as full-featured for Mac. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Teresa<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Teresa LW Haven, Ph.D.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Supervisor, Alternative Format Services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Disability Resource Center<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Arizona State University<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Wink Harner<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] math speak for MAC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=PT-BR>Hi all Athenites,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=PT-BR><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Any of you out there able to use Math Type for input method and Math Speak for output for a student who is blind? Is there a version of math speak for MACs? Voice Over for the MAC does OK with words, not so much with math & symbols. Student is enrolled in MAT 120 – Intermediate Algebra.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for any directions (you can point me in one!) or suggestions.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Blessings,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Wink<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ms. Wink Harner<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Manager<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Disability Resources & Services<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Mesa Community College<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>1833 W. Southern Avenue<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=PT-BR>Mesa AZ 85202<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=PT-BR><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=PT-BR>480-461-7447<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=PT-BR>Fax: 480-461-7907<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>