<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"><base href="x-msg://180/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; ">> We currently have a full time staff person writing out all equations in narrative form, </span><div><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; ">> so that they can be read by the DAISY reader. Has anyone come up with a solution </span></div><div><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; ">> (software?) for this issue?</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; "> If so, what has the student experience been using the software?</span></div><div><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;">Hi Rachael,</span></font></div><div><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;">Complex math equations are a bit problematic in how TTS systems render the equation in a manner that is meaningful to the student. We had a situation recently in which a graduate student wanted the equation to be read in one way if it was in-line with the text of the document, but read in a different way if it was part of a larger equation on the page.</span></font></div><div><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;">The best we have been able to develop from a software solution model is to create the equation in MathType as part of a MS Word document. From this, we can create a full-text/full-audio DAISY book that speaks the math equations based on the MathDAISY rendering. Unfortunately, this may not be what the student prefers to hear as the math verbosity does not always match how students/faculty communicate the math expressions. Most of the students decide they would rather not listen to the math part and just focus on the text part of the document.</span></font></div><div><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;">If you want to go down the path of MathDAISY, you need to have documents authored using MathType + MS Word as DOCX. You can then use the Save-As-DAISY plugin with MathDAISY (from Design Science) installed to convert to the DAISY book. </span></font><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; "> </span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; ">For simple equations (algebra, some calculus), this process has worked okay. It's when you get to the really complex math that the overly verbose nature of the TTS can be distracting to reading the math equations.</span></div><div><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;">You could also try submitting the MathType + MS Word DOCX file to the Sensus Access tool (</span></font><a href="http://sensusaccess.com/">http://sensusaccess.com/</a><span style="font-size: 15px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">) as this will also </span><span style="font-size: 15px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">create</span><span style="font-size: 15px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> a full-text/full-audio DAISY book with TTS math support. No need to install the MathDAISY tool or Save-As-DAISY plug-in.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 15px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 15px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Take care,</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 15px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Sean</span></div><div><br></div><div apple-content-edited="true"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>Sean Keegan</div><div>Associate Director, Assistive Technology</div><div>Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University</div></div><div><br></div></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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