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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Karen, Phyllis and everyone else,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>First I don’t speak for “everyone else” and sometimes speaking for myself is even questionable (!), but here is my collection of information:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>IE 10 & 11 no longer support the Math Player Plugin from Design Science. DS has been in touch with MS about this and apparently MS has no plans on allowing plugs (of any kind) in their browsers. So the IE & Math ML reader with Math Player is no longer viable.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just a few days ago, Google announced it would no longer support math plugins for their Chrome Vox, although it still works to some extent, it is not a really viable option for any long term solution.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Others –Jayme, Sean, Terry, Ron, Greg and others—can pipe in about what DOES (sort of) work, but we are as technology specialists left pretty much dead in the water with options right now. There are some promising options coming along with accessible (audible) EPUB3 documents, but it is all in beta version to my knowledge.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I sure would like to see our brains come together with a viable option. Someone who can write HTML5 plugins could possibly work on writing a plugin that would work on an off-name alternate browser –and brave the crash factor.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am convinced this is not the news you’d hoped for, but perhaps by putting this out on the list with more ears & eyes on the dilemma, we might begin some of our own solutions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>OK, troops: consider the gauntlet thrown down!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Wink<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:foreigntype@gmail.com">foreigntype@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Wink Harner<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Assistive Technology Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Southern Oregon University<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>541-552-8442<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:harnerw@sou.edu"><span style='color:blue'>harnerw@sou.edu</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman1.u.washington.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Karen Sorensen<br><b>Sent:</b> terça-feira, 12 de novembro de 2013 12:13<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network<br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Google Chrome & math accessibility<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Wink and everyone else!<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Phyllis Petteys and I were just emailing about this Google pronouncement. So is that correct that screen readers (even ChromeVox) will no longer be able to read math if Google only uses MathJAX? That's what I was surmising, but it's never explicitly covered in the article. Some little piece of me was hoping maybe Google had another way. What happens if someone is using Chrome and the website has MathML? I wonder what ChromeVox will do with it? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We've been having a lot of trouble with IE and MathPlayer. Currently we can only make JAWS read MathML with IE 9 (32 bit edition). Now that IE is on version 11, this is getting more and more difficult! <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Someone mentioned Firefox has a MathPlayer plugin, so that's what we will test next.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>What are others recommending for a screen reader user to read math with? Oy! It shouldn't be this difficult! Why don't screen readers support the standard MathML? Why do we need plugins at all? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Never a dull day in this job! :-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Karen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>Karen M. Sorensen<br>Accessibility Advocate for Online Courses</span><br><a href="http://www.pcc.edu/access" target="_blank">www.pcc.edu/access</a><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><br>Portland Community College<br>971-722-4720</span><br><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>"The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.”</span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> Tim Berners-Lee</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>