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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sean and Krista,<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Like Sean, my experience has been that if you have a screen reader turned on, whether in iOS, Android (Kindle HDX or other), or Kindle for PC with Accessibility
Plugin, any book -- not just books with TTS enabled by the publisher -- will be able to be read by the TTS.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It appears Amazon is taking the very reasonable approach that if you are using a screen reader, you have a qualifying disability and you should be able to access
the book text with your screen reader/TTS. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sean Keegan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 28, 2014 7:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Online eBook Accessibility<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have been able to get a Kindle book that is not TTS enabled to read using NVDA in the Kindle for PC application as well as by using the copy/paste method into other applications. I also got it to work on a Kindle Fire HDX using the Accessibility
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am going to check into any specific settings to see if that may have been the difference. It may be a device-specific issue where the TTS support is either respected or ignored.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">take care,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">sean<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mar 28, 2014, at 4:00 PM, "KRISTA L. GREEAR" <<a href="mailto:greeark@uw.edu">greeark@uw.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">It is my understanding that yes, the book have to be TTS enabled by Amazon.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Access Text & Technology Manager<br>
Disability Resources for Students<br>
(206) 543-8924<br>
<a href="http://disability.wa.edu"><span style="color:purple">disability.wa.edu</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, March 28, 2014 12:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Access Technology Higher Education Network<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Athen] Online eBook Accessibility</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m glad to hear that Natural Reader worked for you, as I have many students who prefer that, but I’ve never been able to get it to work with Kindle to PC,
even with the Accessibility Plugin. Did the books have to be TTS enabled by Amazon?</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">KRISTA
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Access Technology Higher Education Network<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Athen] Online eBook Accessibility</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I had a similar situation with a student this week. They wanted to be able to use TTS with the Kindle books they purchased. They have the Kindle to PC w/ Accessibility Plug
in software on their Windows computer. I tested and was able to get Natural Reader, Balabolka and CAR (Central Access Reader) to read the Kindle book in the Kindle to PC software. The student doesn't want to have to learn how to use a screen reader (VoiceOver
or NVDA) as they are sighted and find the additional navigation cues annoying. Thankfully, using Kindle books in this manner prevented the student from having to learn how to use another piece of software as the 3 TTS engines worked for me. </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Access Text & Technology Manager<br>
Disability Resources for Students<br>
(206) 543-8924<br>
<a href="http://disability.wa.edu">disability.wa.edu</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Access Technology Higher Education Network<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[Athen] Online eBook Accessibility</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Anyone have any first-hand experience with the use of screen readers or TTS readers with online textbook sources such as:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">What experience do any of you have in the TTS capabilities on any of those e-book sources listed?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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