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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Ditto. The comments below I think hold true for a lot of us. STEM is absolutely the biggest problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Shahida Khaliq<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Teresa Haven<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 02, 2014 10:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’ll third all of what Susan and Kathleen said. Also, even when students do know what works best for them, faculty often don’t understand how to create an accessible document or just think that because it’s
digital it’s automatically accessible. Getting the faculty educated in how to do things right from the beginning (so that they can post last-second content without needing conversion), without also having to teach each one of them individually, is a growing
challenge. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Teresa<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Teresa Haven, Ph.D.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Accessibility Analyst<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Northern Arizona University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">(928) 523-6042<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kathleen Cahill<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 02, 2014 7:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Susan, you summed it up so well. Especially Penguin and Random House. I would also add that science simulations online are difficult to make accessible and students with disabilities lose out
on those important teaching tools.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">STEM alt format is challenging since there are a number of ways to do it, all of which are somewhat convoluted and difficult. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Our faculty sometimes provides course materials and class slides with little to no lead time for conversion. Getting them to think ahead more is tough. I second Susan’s comment about the difficulties
of what DAISY books work with what readers. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Susan’s point about professors and teaching staff thinking they understand how to provide alt format is also true. We’ve had issues where the professors think they get it, the student isn’t always
clear about their needs and the exam isn’t the right format. We try to iron out these issues ahead of time, but it doesn’t always happen.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Kathleen Cahill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">MIT Assistive Technology Information Center (ATIC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><a href="mailto:kcahill@mit.edu">kcahill@mit.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Susan Kelmer <<a href="mailto:Susan.Kelmer@Colorado.EDU">Susan.Kelmer@Colorado.EDU</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Access Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, April 2, 2014 at 10:13 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Access Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Athen] AltFormat Survey<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Penguin</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Random House</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Only half kidding. Actually, not kidding at all. These two publishers give me the biggest grief. Aside from that:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Publishers and others assuming that Bookshare is good enough. It is good for certain types of students, but not for all of them.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Difficulty in STEM alt format – the conversion process, how much manual labor is involved, how complex the tools are.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">The assumption that an alt format person is also a content expert.
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">A hundred different formats for a hundred different reasons, and needing specialized software to access some of them (Learning Ally and Bookshare and ePub and Daisy and and and) rather than the tools
the student may already have.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Professors and teaching staff that don’t understand how important alternate format is, and how they can provide it easily themselves without our intervention.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Those would be my top five. I’m interested to see what others come up with.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Susan Kelmer</span></i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Disability Services</span></i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">University of Colorado</span></i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">303-735-4836</span></i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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