<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><base href="x-msg://146/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>While I think there were a number of factors that contributed to the success of the program over the years, one factor I would consider seriously if trying to replicate such a model is the timing of such a proposal. Prior to Gaeir and I joining the HTCTU, the California Community College system had experienced a statewide compliance review resulting in nine suggestions from OCR about specific areas of concern; the "Distance Education: Access Guidelines for Students with Disabilities" had been written; and funding was provided from the Chancellor's Office for alternate format production "deliverables" (for most colleges, this involved hiring staff). Not only was there statewide attention from a legal perspective, but there was funding made available to colleges who in turn needed training and support for these alt format and web accessibility services. This also happened at a time when California was doing much better financially than in the past seven years.</div><div><br></div><div>I am not too surprised that the model has not been replicated in other states as I think the California Community College system lends itself to such a program due to overall size, student body, funding mechanisms, etc. I don't know if the HTCTU program is something that could be replicated in other states as there may not be the same factors that would drive such program. Yes, there may be a desire for training and support at the local college level, but this is something that would need to be transcended to the state level and, potentially, all higher ed parties would have to agree on funding decisions.</div><div><br></div><div>If you are looking at different models, I would suggest also looking at how WebAIM is structured and organized. While not the same, there are some similarities to such a program that could offer ideas as to where to obtain funding, provide training, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>Take care,</div><div>Sean</div><div><br></div><div><div><br><div><div>On Jul 11, 2014, at 6:58 PM, "Gaeir Dietrich" <<a href="mailto:gdietrich@htctu.net">gdietrich@htctu.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">You weren’t wrong…Sean and I used to joke that he was the trainer with the most seniority—even if I was the more senior. ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Seriously, though, it was a great model. I do not know how voc rehab functions in other state, though, so I’m not sure how replicable it might be. The strategy that Carl proposed was that since computers and technology were clearly a growth industry and provided a very marketable skill it made sense for the dept of rehabilitation to leverage their resources by creating support for all the CCCs (about 102 at the time and 112 now).<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich<br>408-996-6047 or 408-996-4636</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>athen-list [mailto:athen-<a href="mailto:list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ron<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, July 11, 2014 6:45 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Access Technology Higher Education Network<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Athen] Statewide accessibility training center<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Its been a long time, so I stand corrected. :-)<o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Jul 11, 2014 8:28 PM, "Gaeir Dietrich" <<a href="mailto:gdietrich@htctu.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">gdietrich@htctu.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Happy to talk to you about it, Wink.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">(And, just FYI, Sean only “predated” me at the HTCTU by a couple of months. ;-)</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich<br><a href="tel:408-996-6047" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">408-996-6047</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>or<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="tel:408-996-4636" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">408-996-4636</a></span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>athen-list [mailto:<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ron<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, July 04, 2014 4:03 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Access Technology Higher Education Network<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Athen] Statewide accessibility training center</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">James Bailey would be a good person to talk to he was working in the area at the time and also knew Carl Brown. Also perhaps Sean Keegan. His time at the HTCTU predates Gaeir's. <o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">The Tech Act projects were designed to just this thing, but where never adequately funded. There are also some good models in the K-12 system but they are K-12 only. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">The funding challenge is going to be what target population will you serve, if it is all then you are going to have to figure out the political conflicts and the conflicts inherent in the various laws that govern public funding streams. Private public partnership would be the way to go in my mind.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Interesting concept, one many have tried, including me within the educational space. Let's keep the conversation going.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Ron Stewart<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br><br>On Thursday, July 3, 2014, Wink Harner <<a href="mailto:foreigntype@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">foreigntype@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Wouldn't that be wonderful! I'm sure Gaier can share how the High Tech center came into being. It's highly probable "we" (in the field) could write/apply for a grant to get it started. <br><br>Wink <o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Wink Harner<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=""><a href="mailto:foreigntype@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">foreigntype@gmail.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>Wink <o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Wink Harner<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><a href="mailto:foreigntype@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">foreigntype@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>_______________________________________________<br>athen-list mailing list<br><a href="mailto:athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a><br><a href="http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>athen-list mailing list<br><a href="mailto:athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu">athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a><br>http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list</div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>