<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span></span></div><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">After those before me had some inconsistent and unprofessional-looking results with foil and some other techniques, I learned from Gaeir how to use PIAF with Illustrator. The paper is expensive so you have to get your technique down but the results are fantastic. I once had someone at an AT conference produce some TG (tactile graphics) for me with a fancy embosser and when I showed the students they preferred the TG I produced with PIAF. </span></div><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Illustrator is a robust, complex program so if you're not a graphic artist there will be a learning curve. If you have many other responsibilities like I did and can't spend all your time in production, you can try to find a student in the graphics program to at least create some templates for you but students who are adept with Illustrator will still need a great deal of guidance regarding what should be produced as a TG and what should be omitted. You'll use textures to delineate the different elements of the graphic and there are only so many textures that feel different enough. Too much tactile graphic is confusing for students and some can't make heads or tails out of an overly complex TG. Determining what to include and what to omit may require a meeting with the instructor - I loved involving faculty in alt format production anyway and developed some great relationships that way. Like much of alt format production, TG is an art, not a science. I added the Braille with Duxbury. Worked out great, thanks Gaeir, for PIAF and so much more.<br><br>Julie K Balassa</span><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Sent from my iPad</span></div></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><b>From:</b> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Elmer<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Question on tactile graphics<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><o:p> </o:p>On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:16 PM, "Linda Petty" <<a href="mailto:linda.petty@utoronto.ca">linda.petty@utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:</span></font></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font color="#000000"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><h1><font color="#000000" size="3"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Any feedback on the PIAF Pictures in a Flash Graphic Maker?<o:p></o:p></span></font></h1><h1><font color="#000000" size="3"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Or other tactile graphics systems that are particularly good with graphs, line drawings, more of the math/science component, for post-secondary?<o:p></o:p></span></font></h1><h1><font color="#000000" size="3"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></h1><h1><font color="#000000" size="3"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></h1><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><b>Linda Petty, O.T. 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(Ont.)<br></b>Assistive Technology Consultant<br>Access<i>Ability</i> Services<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">a division of Student Affairs<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br><b>UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO SCARBOROUGH<br></b>Science Wing, Room SW302G<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a href="x-apple-data-detectors://6/0" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="address" x-apple-data-detectors-result="6/0">1265 Military Trail, Toronto, Ontario M1C 1A4</a><br>Direct Line: <a href="tel:416-208-5144" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result="6/1">416-208-5144</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Tel/TTY (appointments): <a href="tel:416-287-7560" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result="7">416-287-7560</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font color="#000000"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Fax: <a href="tel:416-287-7334" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result="8">416-287-7334</a><br></span></font></p></blockquote></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><font color="#000000" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a href="http://www.utsc.utoronto.ca/ability" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">www.utsc.utoronto.ca/ability</a></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><br></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>