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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Hahahaha! We should discuss how to do this at AHG ---we could get rich and retire.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>;>)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Wink Harner<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>foreigntype@gmail.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Heidi Scher<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 05, 2014 9:07 AM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hey there, Sean,<br><br>According to the tech at Bookshare, they use the Save As DAISY plug-in. So not sure why we can't get it to work but they can. For GoRead, it doesn't want all the SMIL files either. But since we're swamped right now, I've moved on since my MacGyver solution has worked! But, if things ever slow down, I'll revisit the issue - unless someone else can figure out what we haven't.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Wink, I SOOOO wish we had an easy button for conversion! <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Heidi<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>+++++++++++++++<br>Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC<br>Associate Director<br>Center for Educational Access<br>University of Arkansas<br>ARKU 104<br>Fayetteville, AR 72701<br>479.575.3104<br>479.575.7445 fax<br>479.575.3646 tdd<br>+++++++++++++++<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Sean Keegan <<a href="mailto:skeegan@stanford.edu" target="_blank">skeegan@stanford.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Heidi,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>From what I understand about the DAISY XML file produced by the Save As DAISY plugin is that it is not exactly a text-only DAISY DTB as it is lacking the NCX or SMIL files. It is, essentially, a precursor to producing a DTB. That said, most DAISY reading apps can handle a DAISY XML file. Perhaps the issue is that the Go Read app will only support a complete DAISY 3 DTB and not the DAISY XML file? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Glad you were able to get it to work with the ePub conversion with Calibre. It's probably what MacGyver would use instead of his swiss army knife if he did alt media production...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Take care,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sean<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Heidi Scher <<a href="mailto:hascherdss@gmail.com" target="_blank">hascherdss@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Thank you everyone for the feedback! I'm passing every little tidbit along to our lab coordinator.<br><br>I need to clarify a couple of points. We are not converting Bookshare books, but are converting the student's course materials. We already do full DAISY as most all of our students love using full DAISY. I'm not having trouble converting to text-only DAISY. The files are converting and work fine with AMIS. BUT, for students who want to use the GoRead DAISY app for Android, the text-only DAISY that works in AMIS does not work in GoRead. <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Yesterday I got a wild hair and decided to go a different route. I combined all the Word Docx files that we use for DAISY conversion into one large file. Then ran it through Calibre for ePub. AND...drumroll....it now reads out loud in GoRead!<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Just more information to put into our arsenal for future reference! <br><br>Thank you again one and all!<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Heidi<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>+++++++++++++++<br>Heidi Scher, M.S., CRC<br>Associate Director<br>Center for Educational Access<br>University of Arkansas<br>ARKU 104<br>Fayetteville, AR 72701<br><a href="tel:479.575.3104" target="_blank">479.575.3104</a><br><a href="tel:479.575.7445" target="_blank">479.575.7445</a> fax<br><a href="tel:479.575.3646" target="_blank">479.575.3646</a> tdd<br>+++++++++++++++<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ron Stewart <<a href="mailto:ron@ahead.org" target="_blank">ron@ahead.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>That may be an option, and it still works. Unfortunately Kris is no longer supporting it as far as I am aware.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ron Stewart</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> athen-list [mailto:<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gaeir Dietrich<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>You can also use Tech Adapt’s free TAMC program: </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/" target="_blank">http://accessiblemediacenter.techadapt.com/</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich<br><a href="tel:408-996-6047" target="_blank">408-996-6047</a> or <a href="tel:408-996-4636" target="_blank">408-996-4636</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> athen-list <a href="mailto:[mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu]" target="_blank">[mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Neal Sorensen<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] text-only DAISY conversion</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hello Heidi,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Bookshare books are surprisingly easy to convert to Text Only. Here’s a quick how-to…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p>1.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>Unzip the file downloaded from Bookshare, and open the extracted folder.<o:p></o:p></p><p>2.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>Look for the file ending in .XML and open it in an internet browser (I recommend Firefox)<o:p></o:p></p><p>3.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>Copy the full text from the browser and paste it into a word processor.<o:p></o:p></p><p>4.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>Breathe easy<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>XML file contains the full text, often with Images, with some rich text formatting and pages indicated. XML usually contains styles too, but I don’t think that is included in the Bookshare XML.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I have noticed that newer versions of Mac OS X have had compatibility issues with Bookshare software. Read:OutLoud hasn’t run successfully for me in almost a year on Macs. This is the best method I have discovered for working around that issue, and still using Bookshare content with those students.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hope this helps!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Neal Sorensen</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Specialist of Assistive Technology</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Office of Disability Resources</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Naropa University: Boulder, CO</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:nsorensen@naropa.edu" target="_blank">nsorensen@naropa.edu</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Phone: <a href="tel:303-546-3560" target="_blank">303-546-3560</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The Machine is Us/ing Us:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>"A wonderful exploration of how new types of text are changing the world…"<o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>This semester we've had several students who are needing text-only DAISY so that they can access DAISY on their Android devices. Is anyone out there converting to text-only DAISY? We've been in contact with Bookshare and they use the Save As DAISY plug-in for Word. But we aren't having any luck getting that to work.<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>Anyone have any ideas??<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>Thanks in advance!!<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>Heidi<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>athen-list mailing list<br><a href="mailto:athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a><br><a href="http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list" target="_blank">http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>athen-list mailing list<br><a href="mailto:athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a><br><a href="http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list" target="_blank">http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>athen-list mailing list<br><a href="mailto:athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu">athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a><br><a href="http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list" target="_blank">http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="100%" noshade style='color:gray' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8160 - Release Date: 09/05/14<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>