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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/28/2015 12:22 PM, Leyna Bencomo
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The other
industry standard I’ve heard for assistive is adaptive. I
don’t think either are offensive. Just my 1 cent. ;)
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Leyna
Bencomo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Assistive
Technology Specialist, Information Technology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">(719)
255-4202<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">University
of Colorado Colorado Springs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> athen-list
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Gjolmesli<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 28, 2015 12:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu"><athen-list@u.washington.edu></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Alternate and Assistive<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I agree. The
barriers are not in the words necessarily. I’ve been in the
field of disability for over 30 years and have seen trends
come and go…it’s the attitudes and bias and discrimination
that remain. As John states, why mess with standard
terminology? It does totally confuse the general population
who are nob savvy enough to get the nuances.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">That’s my two
cents as well.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">S.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Susan
Gjolmesli, Director</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Disability
Resource Center, B132</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Phone: (425)
564-2498</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Elmer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:11 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Alternate and Assistive</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I am not sure I
agree with your premise. Is that based on feedback to that
effect from students?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">To me, it
embraces the model that a disability means something is
wrong/bad, that there is something to be ashamed of. It is a
stigma. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Not the way I
see it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The terms are
“industry” standards. To arbitrarily rename them can also
create confusion. Example: Someone decided that our
department name should have no reference to disability. We
were renamed the Educational Assistance Center. People now
thing we are the campus “help desk”. Further, if someone is
looking for services for students with disabilities in a
directory or on a campus map, it’s not there.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">My 2 cents.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">John</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Cyrus Hamilton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ATHEN List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Alternate and Assistive</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good Afternoon:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I am researching alternate phrases for,
“assistive technology”, and “alternate formats”, and thought
this would be an excellent forum for the discussion. There’s a
lot of meaning in words, and I feel that “assistive” and
“alternate” are words that can have the unintended consequence
of further stigmatizing individuals. I understand that
technically, all technology is assistive, but I think there
has to be a better way to identify technologies like
VoiceDream, Kurzweil 3000, and Dragon Naturally Speaking. Am
I over thinking this, or do others share my concern? Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Cyrus<o:p></o:p></p>
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My take is that adapt means the THING is lacking something to reach
everyone.<br>
I think assistive means the person is inadequate and needs
assistance.<br>
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Either way it is a mismatch between the thing and its user<br>
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