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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the update on NVDA, Peter Bossley!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Wink<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Wink Harner<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Adaptive Technology Consulting & Training<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Alternative Media & Text Conversions<span style='text-transform:uppercase'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=PT-BR style='color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:foreigntype@gmail.com"><span lang=EN-US style='color:blue'>foreigntype@gmail.com</span></a></span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>This email was dictated with Dragon Naturally Speaking. Please forgive any omissions, errata or anomalies.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bossley, Peter A. (Pete)<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 11, 2015 6:06 AM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Math Content for PhD Student<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I agree with everything said below, just one note that the math changes were merged into NVDA 2015.2 There is no longer a special NVDA build.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Wink Harner<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 10, 2015 3:40 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Math Content for PhD Student<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Marcie, et al ATHENites,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Math Type does the best (IMHO) converting to math ml –in any case, it is somewhat simpler and easier to use than Scientific Notebook. There is a good math beta version of NVDA (screen reader) which works well with text files retyped with MATHTYPE and using Design Science’s Math Player.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Run the PDF book file through OCR using ABBYY Fine Reader. ABBYY has a better recognition for complex math, science and foreign languages than other OCR programs. Get a grad student or a student worker who has taken statistics to then retype the equations into the OCR converted text you’ve created. Save the file(s). (most cost effective). You may also consider buying or sending the alt text out to someone using INFINTY READER, the OCR software for math. (not as cost effective as doing it in house or even hiring out to an alt-text production company that knows how to produce mathtype/mathplayer/NVDA files).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The student needs to have NVDA math beta version, MathType (costs) and MathPlayer (does not cost) loaded on their computer. The NVDA commands work similarly to JAWS. You can download a keystroke file of the NVDA commands. Here are the links:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>1.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>MathType: <a href="https://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathtype/">https://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathtype/</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>2.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>MathPlayer 4, public beta version: <a href="https://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathplayer/download.htm?src=mplogo?src=mplogo">https://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathplayer/download.htm?src=mplogo?src=mplogo</a> find the link on this page and download. It’s free!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>3.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>NVDA math beta version link is on the same page as the MathPlayer (see above).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>4.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Here is a link via WebAIM for the NVDA keyboard shortcuts: <a href="http://webaim.org/resources/shortcuts/nvda">http://webaim.org/resources/shortcuts/nvda</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The charts, graphs and illustrations can be done by importing these images into Adobe Illustrator, clean up and label, then send to a raised line embosser or print them and have a student worker use a puff pen to outline.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hope this is helpful and somewhat useful. If others have additional information or suggestions, please chime in!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Wink<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Wink Harner<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Adaptive Technology Consulting & Training<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Alternative Text & Media Production<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The Foreigntype<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:foreigntype@gmail.com">foreigntype@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:winkharner1113@gmail.com">winkharner1113@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cooper Black","serif";color:#1F497D'>(Disclaimer: this email was dictated with Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive any quirks, mis-recognitions, or omissions.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dimac, Marcie<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 10, 2015 10:04 AM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network (<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>)<br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Math Content for PhD Student<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Afternoon all,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I sent out something about a week ago and got no replies so I’d like to try again in hopes that someone out there can help us!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Situation:</b> We have a doctoral candidate student, blind, JAWS user, who does not read Braille. The student is registered for a doctoral level quantitative statistics course and the book is available in PDF format but is about 50% equations and mathematical problems and 50% text content. We are trying to determine the best way to deliver the mathematical content to the student. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We have tried editing the math content in Scientific Notebook, but it then has to be exported to xhtml and we are finding that only JAWS 16 truly supports MathML (the student is on version 14). <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We cannot Braille the figures or equations as this student does not read Braille.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Question:</b> What is the best way to deliver the content to this student? We have spoken with the student and he is comfortable with us either properly formatting the current math content (Using SN or MathType) so he can listen to the content with JAWS or turning all mathematical content into textual content (i.e.<img border=0 width=21 height=17 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.png@01D0D42B.E1986E90"> would be written as “X sub one”).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Does anyone have any recommendations/best practices for <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in'>1.<span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span>A program to properly format mathematical content for JAWS<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in'>2.<span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span>The concept of turning mathematical content into textual content<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Any advice is welcomed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks, as always! <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Marcie Anne Dimac, M.A. Ed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Coordinator, Assistive Technology<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Student Accessibility Services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>DeWeese Health Center, Room 23<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Kent, Ohio 44242<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Email: <a href="mailto:mdimac@kent.edu">mdimac@kent.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Phone: 330-672-3391<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'>Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. 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