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<div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, sans-serif; ">Adam,</div>
<div><font face="Times,sans-serif" style="font-size: 14px; ">It looks like the tool used to</font> create and export the PDF is adding garbage to the tag tree. Perhaps both the good text and the gibberish are in the tag tree, and when you re-order them the
good tags are getting moved. Have you looked at the tag tree as well as the reading order?</div>
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<div>Finding the original document and either making it accessible or figuring out a better way to export it are probably your best options. </div>
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<div>-Madeleine</div>
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<div>National Center for Accessible Media at WGBH</div>
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<div>madeleine_rothberg@wgbh.org</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Adam Kosakowski <<a href="mailto:kosakowskia@wcsu.edu">kosakowskia@wcsu.edu</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span>Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Thursday, December 3, 2015 2:24 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a href="mailto:'athen-list@u.washington.edu">'athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>'" <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>[Athen] Touch Up Reading Order issue on Adobe Acrobat Pro<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am working on making a student survey form accessible, but I am having issues with assigning a logical reading order. When I first open the PDF file, Read and Write’s PDF Aloud can read it OK (just in a bad order), but after I start reordering
it, it begins to be read as jibberish! I attached a screen shot pointing out what I mean. Just in case if the attachment doesn’t go through, something that used to be read as “Fall 2015 Student Satisfaction Survey” is now being read as “FGHHIJKLMNOPQRSOING…”
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have been unable to find any mention online of “PDF tagging changes read text to jibberish” and in general I am not sure what to enter into Google here! Any insight would be appreciated! In the mean time I am going to see if I can get
my hands on the original file, maybe it was not a PDF file originally and I can make the original file accessible instead.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Adam Kosakowski, M.Ed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Assistive Technology Specialist and Math Specialist, University Assistant<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">AccessAbility Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Western Connecticut State University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">181 White Street, Higgins Annex 017<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Telephone: 203-837-8225 TTY:<b> </b>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.wcsu.edu/accessability">www.wcsu.edu/accessability</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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