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--></style></head><body lang=EN-CA link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>This is me shrieking!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Do not use Text Boxes to imitate a table! Do not draw a Table!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>When you do, the content might look like a table but there is no relationship between the text boxes or drawn table elements. A drawn table is even more “offensive” because adaptive technology has no idea what it is and says nothing when confronted with it. It also ends up being a giant tornado vortex that draws other content into it and you can’t separate it again. Quite messy!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Just because a document author wants something done, doesn’t mean it is either good design or even plausible/possible in terms of document design never mind accessible document design. Oddly enough, I’m involved in a similar conversation on another list…a document author wants to do something illogical and is frustrated that they can’t. Sigh.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Tables are tables and there is a way to read them and a way not to. Just create a table! Maybe think about the design of the content before you begin plunking tables and text boxes everywhere.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I know this is not the answer you hoped for…apologies if I sound terse…it is the shrieking! LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Maybe take a look at the proper use of tables and how to create accessible placeholders in PowerPoint:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a href="http://www.karlencommunications.com/OfficeForWindowsAccessibility.html">http://www.karlencommunications.com/OfficeForWindowsAccessibility.html</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Perhaps if the document author understood a bit more about the barriers being created, they might learn how to do something other than tables? She said hopefully….<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers, Karen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adam Kosakowski<br><b>Sent:</b> December 30, 2015 9:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Changing Reading Order of Tables<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Hello wise Athen-ers!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Happy New Year! A colleague of mine is learning how to make accessible PowerPoints, but she likes tables. She wants her tables to be screen read column by column, top to bottom instead of row by row, left to right. After some Google searching I came up with pretty much nothing. Is this reasonably feasible or should I encourage her to learn to love an alternative like text boxes that look like the columns she desires?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Thanks in advance!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<b><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Adam Kosakowski, M.Ed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Assistive Technology Specialist and Math Specialist, University Assistant<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>AccessAbility Services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Western Connecticut State University<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>181 White Street, Higgins Annex 017<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Danbury, CT 06810<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Telephone: 203-837-8225 TTY:<b> </b>203-837-3235 FAX: 203-837-8848<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Email: <a href="mailto:kosakowskia@wcsu.edu">kosakowskia@wcsu.edu</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.wcsu.edu/accessability">www.wcsu.edu/accessability</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=98 height=70 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D142E8.06A975F0" alt="Description: cid:71F5102F-6703-4051-9EA1-5024DA46B6E4"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>The information contained in this email is privileged and confidential. 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