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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F4E79">As an update to the below re: punctuation, the point that iOS VoiceOver doesn’t read punctuation is incorrect. This might be something this group already knows, but
 here’s my notes on this: <o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F4E79">I just played around with it now, to turn on punctuation in VoiceOver<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F4E79">In the VoiceOver settings, under Rotor, make sure there is a checkmark beside Punctuation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F4E79"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">       
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F4E79">Use the Rotor (two fingers doing a clockwise or counter clockwise motion to move to each next tick of the rotor) to select punctuation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F4E79"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">       
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F4E79">Swipe up or down to hear “All punctuation”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F4E79"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">       
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F4E79">Now VoiceOver should read parentheses and brackets (I only tested with parentheses read as “right paren” and “left paren”)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F4E79"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F4E79">Here’s the webpages I found that helped:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><a href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/viphone/QbwG7ZipMgU"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Google groups question re: punctuation</span></a><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F4E79"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><a href="https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204783"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Apple help page re: punctuation and rotor</span></a><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F4E79"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F4E79">Have a good weekend,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F4E79">Julia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-CA">Julia Foster, </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-CA">MScOT,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-CA">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-CA"> Foster, Julia
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<b>Sent:</b> August 23, 2016 4:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Math on a Mac -- updates? Is Office 2016 an option?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi everyone,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">A question came up from a student re: using a Mac and VoiceOver and reading/writing stats homework (e.g. for a statistics course)? Here’s what I’ve gathered so far from previous mailouts and asking :
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</span></span></span><![endif]>Accessibility office creates HTML files in MathML (I’m asking for more info on this)<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]>Student reads using VoiceOver and Safari for iOS EXCEPT brackets and parentheses aren’t read which is a huge issue – I think this is the combo is the only solution suggested on the Math Support Finder
<a href="http://msf.mathmlcloud.org/">http://msf.mathmlcloud.org/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]>Best combination is on Windows determined is Windows + NVDA + Mathplayer + FireFox (and incorporating a link to the MAthjax library in the HTML code – though I’m not entirely sure what this means)
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<p class="MsoNormal">Some questions:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]>Any updates to this? Likely not since the last emails on this list were only a few months ago<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]>Has anyone tried out Office 2016 for Mac yet? We don’t have it, but it’s supposed to be accessible to VoiceOver, though I’m not sure if that includes equations and also not sure how efficient that would be on its own.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Julia<o:p></o:p></p>
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