<div dir="ltr">Hey Liz,<div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">We are currently piloting Ally with our Canvas instance. Ally is capable of automatically scanning content in the LMS for accessibility issues, after which it generates a comprehensive institutional report. It currently includes all PDF, Word, Powerpoint, OpenOffice and image files, and they’re in the process of rolling out HTML support as well (which I'm really excited about). Also, I believe the intention is to provide a tool </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">for instructors through direct feedback on the content they upload and assistance in remediation.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">UDOIT to provide a direct comparison. I can say that t</span><span style="font-size:12.8px">he integration for our pilot was pretty straightforward to set up and thus far the report has provided some interesting and detailed insights.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Best,</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Ryan</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:01 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:athen-list-request@mailman13.u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list-request@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send athen-list mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Accessibility Checkers for Canvas (Prickett, Elizabeth)<br>
2. Re: Accessibility Checkers for Canvas (Scott Williams)<br>
3. Re: Accessibility Checkers for Canvas (Makoto Tsuchitani)<br>
4. Re: VHL Central web site with blind students (Normajean.Brand)<br>
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:08:06 +0000<br>
From: "Prickett, Elizabeth" <<a href="mailto:Elizabeth.Prickett@victoriacollege.edu">Elizabeth.Prickett@<wbr>victoriacollege.edu</a>><br>
To: "'<a href="mailto:altmedia@htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu">altmedia@htclistserv.htctu.<wbr>fhda.edu</a>'"<br>
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Subject: [Athen] Accessibility Checkers for Canvas<br>
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Good evening!<br>
<br>
We are in the middle of transitioning to Canvas from Blackboard. We would like to utilize an accessibility checking tool as we review our online courses. I've talked with the folks who created UDOIT<<a href="https://online.ucf.edu/teach-online/resources/udoit/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://online.ucf.edu/<wbr>teach-online/resources/udoit/</a>> at InstructureCon and they offer a lot of guidance on their pages. I know that someone on one of the listservs recently posted and inquiry about Ally - Making course content accessible<<a href="http://ally.ac/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://ally.ac/</a>>, too, which seems like it may offer something similar.<br>
<br>
Has anyone tried Ally yet? Has anyone run a comparison of the two? I could be wrong, but UDOIT seems like a tool that would be more useful for instructors and guiding them to make courses more accessible, and the Ally tool may be better at running reports for admins. However, I'm not really sure since they (Ally) have such little info online. And, I'm definitely not sure how accurate an algorithm generated alt format is! Also, as far as I know, UDOIT is free, and I don't know if the other tool is free or not.<br>
<br>
Thanks for any insight! Have an excellent week,<br>
<br>
Liz Prickett<br>
Alternative Media Specialist<br>
Center for Academic & Professional Excellence (CAPE) Victoria College<br>
2200 E. Red River Street<br>
Victoria, TX 77901<br>
<a href="tel:%28361%29%20573-3291%20x3243" value="+13615733291">(361) 573-3291 x3243</a><br>
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 08:48:18 -0400<br>
From: Scott Williams <<a href="mailto:swims@umich.edu">swims@umich.edu</a>><br>
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network<br>
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Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessibility Checkers for Canvas<br>
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Hi Liz,<br>
<br>
I have recommended to our IT department that we adopt UDOIT for our Canvas<br>
implementation. I can vouch for the good folks at UCF, having worked<br>
closely with them. They have been very helpful and knowledgeable. UDOIT<br>
makes it extremely easy for faculty to fix basic but important<br>
accessibility errors without intimidating them. I'm not so concerned about<br>
running reports, and I have not looked at the Ally tool.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Scott<br>
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On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Prickett, Elizabeth <<br>
<a href="mailto:Elizabeth.Prickett@victoriacollege.edu">Elizabeth.Prickett@<wbr>victoriacollege.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Good evening!<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> We are in the middle of transitioning to Canvas from Blackboard. We would<br>
> like to utilize an accessibility checking tool as we review our online<br>
> courses. I?ve talked with the folks who created UDOIT<br>
> <<a href="https://online.ucf.edu/teach-online/resources/udoit/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://online.ucf.edu/teach-<wbr>online/resources/udoit/</a>> at InstructureCon<br>
> and they offer a lot of guidance on their pages. I know that someone on one<br>
> of the listservs recently posted and inquiry about Ally ? Making course<br>
> content accessible <<a href="http://ally.ac/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://ally.ac/</a>>, too, which seems like it may offer<br>
> something similar.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Has anyone tried Ally yet? Has anyone run a comparison of the two? I could<br>
> be wrong, but UDOIT seems like a tool that would be more useful for<br>
> instructors and guiding them to make courses more accessible, and the Ally<br>
> tool may be better at running reports for admins. However, I?m not really<br>
> sure since they (Ally) have such little info online. And, I?m definitely<br>
> not sure how accurate an algorithm generated alt format is! Also, as far as<br>
> I know, UDOIT is free, and I don?t know if the other tool is free or not.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Thanks for any insight! Have an excellent week,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Liz Prickett<br>
><br>
> Alternative Media Specialist<br>
><br>
> Center for Academic & Professional Excellence (CAPE) Victoria College<br>
><br>
> 2200 E. Red River Street<br>
><br>
> Victoria, TX 77901<br>
><br>
> <a href="tel:%28361%29%20573-3291%20x3243" value="+13615733291">(361) 573-3291 x3243</a><br>
><br>
> Elizabeth.Prickett@<wbr>VictoriaCollege.edu<br>
><br>
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:43:18 +0000<br>
From: Makoto Tsuchitani <<a href="mailto:mako@stanford.edu">mako@stanford.edu</a>><br>
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network<br>
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Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessibility Checkers for Canvas<br>
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Hi Liz,<br>
<br>
We did some early investigation of Ally this past Spring. In addition to providing metrics/reports, Ally also supports document conversion to alt formats. We had our Accommodations Coordinator review the converted ?output? that Ally produced to help us determine whether it would be appropriate to pilot Ally at that time. She found that Ally?s converted documents were less usable than the alt format documents produced by other stand alone tools. That being said, Ally was very responsive with regards to seeking input to fine tune their conversion algorithms. So the experience with the current version of Ally may differ from what we experienced 6 months ago.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Makoto<br>
<br>
Makoto Tsuchitani<br>
Director of Platforms<br>
Office of the Vice Provost for Teaching and Learning<br>
Stanford University<br>
408 Panama Mall, Room 023<br>
Stanford, CA 94305-2260<br>
ph: <a href="tel:650.799.1561" value="+16507991561">650.799.1561</a><br>
fx: <a href="tel:650.725-4685" value="+16507254685">650.725-4685</a><br>
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From: athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman13.<wbr>u.washington.edu</a>> on behalf of "Prickett, Elizabeth" <<a href="mailto:Elizabeth.Prickett@victoriacollege.edu">Elizabeth.Prickett@<wbr>victoriacollege.edu</a>><br>
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Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 3:08 PM<br>
To: "'<a href="mailto:altmedia@htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu">altmedia@htclistserv.htctu.<wbr>fhda.edu</a>'" <<a href="mailto:altmedia@htclistserv.htctu.fhda.edu">altmedia@htclistserv.htctu.<wbr>fhda.edu</a>>, "'<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>'<wbr>" <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
Subject: [Athen] Accessibility Checkers for Canvas<br>
<br>
Good evening!<br>
<br>
We are in the middle of transitioning to Canvas from Blackboard. We would like to utilize an accessibility checking tool as we review our online courses. I?ve talked with the folks who created UDOIT<<a href="https://online.ucf.edu/teach-online/resources/udoit/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://online.ucf.edu/<wbr>teach-online/resources/udoit/</a>> at InstructureCon and they offer a lot of guidance on their pages. I know that someone on one of the listservs recently posted and inquiry about Ally ? Making course content accessible<<a href="http://ally.ac/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://ally.ac/</a>>, too, which seems like it may offer something similar.<br>
<br>
Has anyone tried Ally yet? Has anyone run a comparison of the two? I could be wrong, but UDOIT seems like a tool that would be more useful for instructors and guiding them to make courses more accessible, and the Ally tool may be better at running reports for admins. However, I?m not really sure since they (Ally) have such little info online. And, I?m definitely not sure how accurate an algorithm generated alt format is! Also, as far as I know, UDOIT is free, and I don?t know if the other tool is free or not.<br>
<br>
Thanks for any insight! Have an excellent week,<br>
<br>
Liz Prickett<br>
Alternative Media Specialist<br>
Center for Academic & Professional Excellence (CAPE) Victoria College<br>
2200 E. Red River Street<br>
Victoria, TX 77901<br>
<a href="tel:%28361%29%20573-3291%20x3243" value="+13615733291">(361) 573-3291 x3243</a><br>
Elizabeth.Prickett@<wbr>VictoriaCollege.edu<mailto:<a href="mailto:Elizabeth.Prickett@VictoriaCollege.edu">Eli<wbr>zabeth.Prickett@<wbr>VictoriaCollege.edu</a>><br>
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 18:01:03 +0000<br>
From: "Normajean.Brand" <<a href="mailto:normajean.brand@hccs.edu">normajean.brand@hccs.edu</a>><br>
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network<br>
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Thanks Kirk! Excellent timing... unfortunately for Miami though. However, we can all learn from this one as well as other more recent ones.<br>
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Regards,<br>
<br>
NJ Brand<br>
______________________________<wbr>__<br>
NJ Brand, ATAC<br>
Houston Community College<br>
ADA/Assistive Technology Technician<br>
Technology and Instructional Computing<br>
VM/Office: <a href="tel:713.718.5604" value="+17137185604">713.718.5604</a> ???????????????????<br>
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From: athen-list [mailto:<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@<wbr>mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] On Behalf Of Corey, Kirk<br>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:46 PM<br>
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Athen] VHL Central web site with blind students<br>
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Just a quick follow-up on this-- the Miami University consent decree published today (<a href="https://www.ada.gov/miami_university_cd.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ada.gov/miami_<wbr>university_cd.html</a>) calls out Vista Higher Learning specifically. Perhaps an opportunity to re-engage with the vendor on the topic?<br>
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Kirk<br>
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From: athen-list [mailto:<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@<wbr>mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] On Behalf Of Normajean.Brand<br>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 1:23 PM<br>
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Athen] VHL Central web site with blind students<br>
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Unfortunately, we could not come up with a reasonable solution using vhl, and the blind student decided to drop the class even after we were able to find a faculty member who would tutor him. He just found it too stressful. I've cautioned the faculty who use vhl that doing so with students who have visual impairments, or who are deaf/hoh, is seriously problematic. We also found much of the videos or slide presentations used that have voice-over were not captioned. Vhl has still not addressed my concerns to date.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
NJ Brand<br>
______________________________<wbr>__<br>
NJ Brand, ATAC<br>
Houston Community College<br>
ADA/Assistive Technology Technician<br>
Technology and Instructional Computing<br>
VM/Office: <a href="tel:713.718.5604" value="+17137185604">713.718.5604</a> ???????????????????<br>
FAX: <a href="tel:713.718.5430" value="+17137185430">713.718.5430</a><br>
Email: <a href="mailto:normajean.brand@hccs.edu">normajean.brand@hccs.edu</a><br>
<a href="http://hccs.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">hccs.edu</a><br>
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From: athen-list [mailto:<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@<wbr>mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] On Behalf Of Maria Bohn<br>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 9:51 AM<br>
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Athen] VHL Central web site with blind students<br>
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Norma Jean ? did you have any work around or solution? Thanks for the reply<br>
<br>
Maria Bohn<br>
Senior Resource Accommodations Specialist Assistive Technology Office of Specialized Services Bergen Community College<br>
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On 10/12/16, 6:19 PM, "athen-list on behalf of Normajean.Brand" <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman13.<wbr>u.washington.edu</a> on behalf of <a href="mailto:normajean.brand@hccs.edu">normajean.brand@hccs.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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Hello Maria,<br>
<br>
We've tried unsuccessfully using JAWS with vhl.central for several of our blind and low vision students over the past two years. I even tried to contact their tech support and webmaster, with no response. Total circle/loop on "your site is not accessible, particularly with JAWS..."<br>
<br>
NJ Brand<br>
______________________________<wbr>__<br>
NJ Brand, ATAC<br>
Houston Community College<br>
ADA/Assistive Technology Technician<br>
Technology and Instructional Computing<br>
VM/Office: <a href="tel:713.718.5604" value="+17137185604">713.718.5604</a><br>
FAX: <a href="tel:713.718.5430" value="+17137185430">713.718.5430</a><br>
Email: <a href="mailto:normajean.brand@hccs.edu">normajean.brand@hccs.edu</a><br>
<a href="http://hccs.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">hccs.edu</a><br>
<br>
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From: athen-list [mailto:<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@<wbr>mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] On Behalf Of Maria Bohn<br>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:15 PM<br>
To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
Subject: [Athen] VHL Central web site with blind students<br>
<br>
Has anyone used this website: <a href="http://vhlcentral.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://vhlcentral.com</a> successfully with JAWS? It is for a Spanish course using the book Portales Spanish 1, and the students I am working with ? one blind and one low vision are having an extremely difficult time with accessing this ? I have had an in class support person working with them but they are struggling. I wanted to see if anyone else was able to access this successfully or not<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Ryan DiGiondomenico<br>Senior Manager of Design, Development, & Accessibility <br>Berkeley Resource Center for Online Education (BRCOE)<br>1995 University Ave.<br>Berkeley, CA 94704-7000<br>(510) 643-2409<br><a href="mailto:rdigiondomenico@unex.berkeley.edu" target="_blank">rdigiondomenico@berkeley.edu</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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