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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Hmm.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I’d ask a different question.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>How much time it would take to make the Word, PowerPoint, PDF documents the right way by the authors? Then there would be little need to remediate the PDFs. The answer to that question is “not much longer than what authors are spending now doing it the wrong way.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>So why build lousy PDFs to begin with? Why not make documents the right way from the start?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>You can instead:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Design templates in Word, PowerPoint, Adobe InDesign, etc. so that authors can create accessible documents themselves.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Give a short course to your faculty on how to created accessible documents using your templates.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Create an online user guide on how to use the templates.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>End up with PDFs from your faculty that are compliant or need minor remediation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>In case you still want an answer to your original question, our firm does remediation and our estimate is usually “it depends.” Depends upon:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>How complex the document is.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>How well the author knew Word, PowerPoint, InDesign’s tools.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>How many hyperlinks, graphics, tables, footnotes, text boxes, etc. are in the document.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>There are so many variables that it’s difficult to have a ”stock” per page estimate.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Our firm also teaches authors how to create accessible documents. We create templates for them to use. And we teach support staff how to make templates for their staff/faculty to use. And we write user guides. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>We’d rather teach people how to do it right rather than continually remediate documents over and over and over and over and over and …<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>--Bevi Chagnon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#D9D9D9'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Bevi Chagnon </span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>| </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="http://www.pubcom.com/"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#0563C1'>www.<b>PubCom</b>.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Technologists, Consultants, Trainers, Designers, and Developers<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>for publishing & communication<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>| Acrobat PDF | Print | EPUBS | Sec. 508 Accessibility |<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#D9D9D9'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0pt 0pt 0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Preast, Vanessa<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 21, 2016 7:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Time estimates for remediation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Hello ATHENites,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>I’d really appreciate if the experienced document and content remediators out there can help me estimate how long a person (probably a faculty member) can expect to spend making each of the following accessible. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>These estimates would help me to report some estimated timeline and resource needs for us to make our online course content accessible. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>How many hours are each of the following likely to require?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>     </span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>A 30-slide PowerPoint with images, animated shapes, color contrast challenges</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>     </span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>A 2-page Word document with text boxes, images, tables, lists, no headings</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>     </span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>A 2-page PDF document made from above Word document</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>     </span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>A 10-page PDF journal article from a publisher</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>5.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>     </span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Captioning a 2-minute video</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>6.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>     </span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>300-word Course Welcome message in HTML built in the Learning Management System’s HTML-editor (possible misuse of color, link naming, font sizes/types and headings)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Vanessa<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>