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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#993366;letter-spacing:.5pt">Greetings,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#993366;letter-spacing:.5pt">I agree with David that effective literacy help solutions depend on the individual and their current
contextual needs. Many of my students generally prefer R&WG to Kurzweil 3000 for reading. However, some who have more profound difficulties with writing find Kurzweil fits their needs better when taking writing-assignment-heavy courses.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#993366;letter-spacing:.5pt">FYI here's a link to a comparison chart; it's a little dated, but it gives you a nice "bird's eye
view" feature comparison of Kurzweil, R&WG, ClaroRead and WYNN:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#993366;letter-spacing:.5pt">Fortunately, we have the luxury of employing both systems at Lone Star College, but it'd be a hard
call if I had to choose one or the other. If pressed, I would probably go with R&WG, simply because:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#993366;letter-spacing:.5pt">- I can use the Managed version in our assessment center instead of providing a human reader, and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#993366;letter-spacing:.5pt">However, I'd definitely miss Kurzweil's more extensive writing help features like draft and outline
templates, as well as its versatile mind-mapping options. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#993366;letter-spacing:.5pt">Let me know if you have any questions. Hope it helps!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#993366"><a href="mailto:joseph.m.nast@lonestar.edu"><span style="color:#993366;text-decoration:none">Joseph M. Nast</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#993366">Assistive Technology Lab Coordinator<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Schwarte, David M.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 20, 2016 5:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Literacy software<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Until recently, we used both RWG and K3000. We are now using RWG and a DAISy reader. I was fortunate to have student staff on both sides of this question a
few years ago. I could really try to get an idea of why there was a difference of opinion. Students who are more easily distractible seem to prefer a closed environment, such as Kurzweil 3000. Everything the student uses in Kurzweil 3000 has exactly the
same interface. Other students seem to prefer Read & Write Gold, since they can read text without moving it or opening it in another program. My observations are far from being scientific, but since we had the DAISy option for our students who have visual
issues, I decided to actually talk with new e-text users, instead of just telling them what they should use. The students who are most concerned about distractions, complex formatting, lots of colors etc., seem to do better with the DAISy Reader with a more
simple interface. I always leave the final choice up to the student. Students who I thought would do better with the DAISy reader, but decided to use Read & Write gold, usually come back to discuss their options later. I should mention that I am not part
of a DSS office and I don’t have access to any information about a student’s disability diagnosis. Some students who tell me they have ADD or ADHD still do better with Read & Write Gold. I usually listen for comments like “I really hate books with lots of
sidebars and multi-column text.” <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I think of this similarly to the early days of text-to-speech systems, where they were all designed for people who had visual impairments. Some students who
had other types of disabilities felt programs like Kurzweil 3000 and WYNN were great steps forward. I tried to make my life more simple by finding a compromise program that would work for everyone. I eventually decided I needed to support two programs.
I think I am in the same boat again. Instead of the difference being a basic diagnosis, the dividing line between the two types of e-text readers will need to be based more on the specific user.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">David Schwarte<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">David Schwarte<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Assistive Technology Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">128 Memorial Mall Dr. Rm. 111<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">West Lafayette, IN 47907<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Phone: 765-494-4387<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">E-mail:
<a href="mailto:Schwarte@purdue.edu">Schwarte@purdue.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Carolyn Dorr<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 17, 2016 9:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Literacy software<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Colleagues,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(Sorry for cross-posting)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m looking for comparisons of Read&Write Gold and Kurzweil 3000. If your institution has provided both, which is preferred? Our campus currently provides RWG on all lab computers and also offers it for download for personal computers on
our campus. Our Student Disability Services reports that some students are struggling with RWG and prefer Kurzweil 3000 that they used in high school. Any guidance is appreciated!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carolyn Dorr<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">IT Accessibility Coordinator<br>
Information Technology-Client Services<br>
University of Northern Iowa<br>
Cedar Falls, IA 50614-0301<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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