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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I’ll let others address math-reading software.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>But in terms of giving a PDF versus a Word versus a text document, I’d go for the PDF. That is, if it is tagged correctly for full accessibility.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>A lousy PDF is a nightmare, but a well-tagged PDF with the correct reading order can be an excellent experience.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Word has its accessibility problems: one key problem for textbooks is that text boxes that are often used for pull quotes and sidebar material are not accessible in Word. But they can be made accessible in a PDF.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Text files shouldn’t even be considered because that file format lacks so much:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>n<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Headings, which are critical for comprehension and understanding, as well as for navigating the book quickly.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>n<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Alt-text on graphics, which most likely will be the formulas and equations.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>n<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Hyperlinks for accessing websites, cross-references, tables of content, footnotes, indexes, and anything else that should be clickable. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><o:p> </o:p></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'>However, before going further, I suggest you investigate 2 things about the PDF the student was already given:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'>1. Is it fully accessible? That is, does it have the correct tags, reading order, alt-text, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'>2. Does the student know how to use JAWS? A short briefing in how to access documents quickly via keyboard shortcuts could help.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'>3. And does her computer have software to specifically assist with reading math, science, etc.?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'>There are plenty of us on this list who could probably test the PDF for you. Just ask.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'>--Bevi Chagnon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#D9D9D9'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Bevi Chagnon </span></b></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>| </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span><a href="http://www.pubcom.com/"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>www.<b>PubCom</b>.com</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Technologists, Consultants, Trainers, Designers, and Developers<o:p></o:p></span></i></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>for publishing & communication<o:p></o:p></span></i></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>| Acrobat PDF | Print | EPUBS | Sec. 508 Accessibility |<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#D9D9D9'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0pt 0pt 0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jiron, Randi<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 9, 2016 6:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network (athen-list@u.washington.edu) <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] JAWS and PDF/Word/Text files<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hello,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We have a new student who is blind and requested alternate format for her books. She is a JAWS user and first requested PDF files but then said JAWS wouldn’t work well with the PDF and asked for Word docs. We provided the Word docs and she says her computer froze up while trying to access. She is now asking for TEXT files, one of the books is a math book. She is working with Commission for the Blind, who has provided her with the laptop and the software that she is using. I suggested that she contact her advisor at Commission to ensure the computer is working properly and to see if there is tech support through that organization. Other than that, do you have some suggestions for us on providing electronic text for this student especially the math book? Isn’t there special software for converting the math portion of the math text book? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you for your time.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:20.0pt;font-family:Harrington;color:#7030A0'>Randi Jiron</span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Candara",sans-serif;color:#7030A0'>,</span></i></b><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Candara",sans-serif;color:#7030A0'> </span></i><i><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Candara",sans-serif;color:#7030A0'>MBA/TM</span></i><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Candara",sans-serif;color:#7030A0'><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Disability Services Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Josephine County<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Rogue Community College<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Gadugi",sans-serif'>541-956-7214 Redwood Campus<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Gadugi",sans-serif'>541-471-3550 FAX<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Gadugi",sans-serif'>7-1-1 OTRS (Oregon Telecom Relay Service)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Gadugi",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.roguecc.edu/DisabilityServices/"><span style='color:blue'>www.roguecc.edu/DisabilityServices/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>