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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I’ve had this problem for more than a month. Since the first iteration of JAWS 18. I am using the Office 365 desktop applications with fast insider builds and the behaviour has not changed since the first iteration of JAWS 18.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It is similar to what I experience using JAWS with PDF documents since JAWS 17…JAWS tells me there are no images in the PDF document despite the fact that there are and I’ve given them Alt Text. In the case of the PDF documents, none of the JAWS graphics related keyboard commands can “find” any graphics in my documents.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers, Karen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pratik Patel<br><b>Sent:</b> February 22, 2017 10:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Word 2016 and JAWS/NVDA Image ALT text<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Can I ask the following to those experiencing the issues?<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span lang=EN-US>What exact version of JAWS are you running?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span lang=EN-US>What specific version of Word 2016 are you using?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>This could be related to a potential change that the Office team has made recently. A month or so ago, the Office team had discussed fixing the alt and image issues in Word.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Pratik<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Karlen Communications<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 22, 2017 8:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Word 2016 and JAWS/NVDA Image ALT text<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864'>We have to continue to add the Alt Text for images. JAWS is not the only adaptive technology being used by people. There are other screen readers and Text-to-Speech tools that can access the Alt text. We have to focus on the best practices/standards, and not a specific adaptive technology where a tool/feature might be broken from one version to another. Also, as indicated by someone, the reading of Alt text is working for them using the same version of JAWS, so this may be a device problem or something else that is going on.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864'>Bottom line is that we make documents as accessible as they can be using the tools in the document format/application and when something breaks from one version to another, we let the adaptive technology developers know and lobby for getting it fixed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864'>In this case, even though JAWS is not reading the Alt Text for the images in a Word document, if I press Ctrl + Shift + letter O, I get a list of objects and the images are listed by their Alt Text. It is just when I go through the document in a logical manner that the problem surfaces.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864'>Cheers, Karen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Preast, Vanessa<br><b>Sent:</b> February 22, 2017 8:05 AM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Word 2016 and JAWS/NVDA Image ALT text<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>If this is the case…. How does this change our recommendations/instructions for alt text in Word?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>I’m about to distribute some instructions to our institution on how to add Alt text to Word document images. I want to make sure my instructions are accurate and functional.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Should I tell them to add the description in 1) The title, 2) the description box, or 3) both? Until this point, it sounded like #2 is what most accessibility experts are recommending.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Vanessa<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Karlen Communications<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 21, 2017 1:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Word 2016 and JAWS/NVDA Image ALT text<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864'>Yes, in my case JAWS 18 either says nothing or says “question” when it comes across an image with Alt Text…so not in your imagination…it isn’t consistently reading the Alt text.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864'>Cheers, Karen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joseph Sherman<br><b>Sent:</b> February 21, 2017 1:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Word 2016 and JAWS/NVDA Image ALT text<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>In Word 2016, using JAWS 18 standard settings, JAWS will not read the ALT text that is in the Description box. If there is text in the description box it simply reads “Blank”. It will read text in the Title box if it exists.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>NVDA on the other hand, will read text in the Description box, and only read Title box if no Description exists.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Am I doing something wrong or is this a JAWS bug?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Joseph <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>