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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I agree. OCR is free, so it is a bit non-intuitive that someone might want to go to the expense and trouble of an actual suit. Other factors may come into play, however.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>OCR does not go through a full-scale investigation process with every case brought to them. They will do a preliminary investigate, and if they feel that the campus can fix the problem quickly or that there is really no case for whatever reason, OCR may not engage a full-scale process.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Also, OCR does not necessarily grant damages. Most of the time the OCR resolution asks that the college fix the problem and cover legal fees. There may be fairly limited pay-outs to the students (usually less than $50,000), but not always even that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In this particular case, NFB has become involved, so I suspect that they believe that it will be a strong case that will send a strong message to the colleges. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich<br>HTCTU Director<br>408-996-6047</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>S A. Marositz<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Section 508 Refresh - Now In Effect?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi All <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The recent case against LACCD got me thinking, what reason would an individual not first file a complaint with The Office of Civil Rights before fileing a suit?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/20761833/Roy_Payan,_et_al_v_Los_Angeles_Community_College_District,_et_alDo">https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/20761833/Roy_Payan,_et_al_v_Los_Angeles_Community_College_District,_et_alDo</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Stephen Alexander Marositz J.D.<br>Assistive Technology Specialist, Pasadena City College<br>Phone: (626) 585-7242<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:steve.noble@louisville.edu">steve.noble@louisville.edu</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 21, 2017 12:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Section 508 Refresh - Now In Effect?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>I would suspect the link to 508-related lawsuits in a post-secondary setting would be either through:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>(1) Suits brought under state law (only a few states, like Kentucky, have these) which mandate compliance with Section 508 and give individuals the right to sue state-supported institutions for injunctive relief; or<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>(2) Breach-of-contract suits brought by institutions against vendors who certified their products as compliant with Section 508, when the product was later found to be non-compliant.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>A suit brought against a university by an individual with a disability concerning inaccessible technology would normally be constructed around the ADA and Section 504, although it would be expected that part of the evidence provided would be lack of compliance with "generally accepted" accessibility standards, such as WCAG and Section 508.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>--Steve Noble<br><a href="mailto:steve.noble@louisville.edu">steve.noble@louisville.edu</a><br>502-969-3088<br><a href="http://louisville.academia.edu/SteveNoble" target="_blank">http://louisville.academia.edu/SteveNoble</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div id=divRpF648404><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> athen-list [athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] on behalf of Jennifer Sutton [jsuttondc@gmail.com]<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:chagnon@pubcom.com">chagnon@pubcom.com</a>; Access Technology Higher Education Network<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Section 508 Refresh - Now In Effect?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span style='color:black'>Perhaps some of you who know 508 (both new and old) better than I do can clarify this for me. But I'm a little concerned at the mention of "lawsuits" below, especially since there's already plenty of fear, uncertainty, and doubt in the higher ed. space, due to lawsuits . . .<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'>Are there really likely to be 508-related lawsuits? As I understood things, it would take a *long* time for anything 508-related to turn into a lawsuit. Mostly, they're complaints that people with disabilities must file, and then, the Federal agency (or other institution, if it falls under 508) must take action, etc. In other words, I don't think 508 functions like filing something against a company or institution that turns into a DoJ agreement (if the organization doesn't take satisfactory action, of course).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'>I hope this is clear, and that someone else can clarify further. I'm not saying 508 isn't important; I'm just not so sure it's going to result in a deluge of lawsuits beginning in 2018.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'>Does anybody have a list of the lawsuits that have happened under the old 508? I'd be interested to see it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'>Jennifer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On 3/21/2017 9:31 AM, Chagnon | PubCom wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Yes, Sec. 508 goes into effect today, March 21.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>It becomes enforceable on January 18, 2018.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Translation: All ICT (information communication technology) published from January 18 and forward must be compliant. The lawsuits will begin on January 18, 2018. You have 9 months to get your act together. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>See: </span><span style='color:black'><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.federalregister.gov_documents_2017_03_02_2017-2D04059_information-2Dand-2Dcommunication-2Dtechnology-2Dict-2Dstandards-2Dand-2Dguidelines&d=AwMDaQ&c=SgMrq23dbjbGX6e0ZsSHgEZX6A4IAf1SO3AJ2bNrHlk&r=4WMck1ZVLo4tV0IVllcBNKXCSGU6lUERtx_4HD4DqmE&m=e9GPfqS2Zsu_QJYY04S9snLxbUSmbvQLtAfEdSpdTpk&s=YIu1Q4jJX8fSzT3gDVpnytVRJDPTGj_oD1qiULIAkj0&e=" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/03/02/2017-04059/information-and-communication-technology-ict-standards-and-guidelines</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Quoted from the Federal Register:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>“DATES:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The effective date of the final rule published on January 18, 2017 at 82 FR 5790 is delayed to March 21, 2017. However, compliance with the section 508-based standards is not required until January 18, 2018, which is one year after the final rule's original publication date. Compliance with the section 255-based guidelines is not required until the guidelines are adopted by the Federal Communications Commission. The incorporation by reference of certain publications listed in the final rule published on January 18, 2017 at 82 FR 5790 is approved by the Director of the Federal Register as of March 21, 2017.”</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>If you are a US-based institution, then yes, Sec. 508 is the law you must follow.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>However, understand the difference between laws and standards. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>This law does not define the standards for accessibility for some ICT but does for others:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>For websites, digital media, and documents like Word and PDFs, the law “includes by reference” the international accessibility standards WCAG 2.0 and PDF/UA-1.</span> <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>For Sec. 255 technologies, especially telecom, cell phones, kiosks, and software, it defines the standards but they are currently delayed.</span> <o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>We recommend that our clients follow WCAG 2.0 for all website information.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Document-based ICT, including PDFs that are posted on websites, is more accessible if you follow PDF/UA (PDF Universal Accessibility) guidelines as the WCAG guidelines really don’t work for PDFs. PDF and HTML technologies are not the same. A recent blog explains the differences between these two technologies and standards: </span><span style='color:black'><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.pubcom.com_blog_2017-2D01-2D03_wcag-2Dpdf-2Dstandards.html&d=AwMDaQ&c=SgMrq23dbjbGX6e0ZsSHgEZX6A4IAf1SO3AJ2bNrHlk&r=4WMck1ZVLo4tV0IVllcBNKXCSGU6lUERtx_4HD4DqmE&m=e9GPfqS2Zsu_QJYY04S9snLxbUSmbvQLtAfEdSpdTpk&s=NPqurNazLb_fysGkqFrOQENUn4R6ERsFmybcQ6jzIo8&e=" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>http://www.pubcom.com/blog/2017-01-03/wcag-pdf-standards.html</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>--Bevi Chagnon</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu" target="_blank">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kressin, Lori L. (llk2t)<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> ATHEN <a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" target="_blank"><athen-list@u.washington.edu></a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Section 508 Refresh - Now In Effect?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Good morning all, <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Here we are on March 21, 2017. Does that mean that the refresh of Section 508 is now in effect? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I have not heard anything to contrary, but I certainly could have missed something.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>What is the general thought - is this the standard that you and your institution will now follow?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thanks for your input,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Lori<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;color:#5E5E5E'>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span style='font-size:8.5pt;color:black'><br><b>Lori Kressin</b><br></span><span style='font-size:8.5pt;color:#5E5E5E'>Coordinator of Academic Accessibility</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;color:#5E5E5E'>Office of the Executive VP and Provost • Univ. of Virginia</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;color:#5E5E5E'>102 Cresap Rd • POB 400199 • Charlottesville, VA • 22903</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;color:#5E5E5E'>[434] 982-5784</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><pre><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:black'>athen-list mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:black'><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mailman13.u.washington.edu_mailman_listinfo_athen-2Dlist&d=AwMDaQ&c=SgMrq23dbjbGX6e0ZsSHgEZX6A4IAf1SO3AJ2bNrHlk&r=4WMck1ZVLo4tV0IVllcBNKXCSGU6lUERtx_4HD4DqmE&m=e9GPfqS2Zsu_QJYY04S9snLxbUSmbvQLtAfEdSpdTpk&s=H-caYsj2dTaDSvlhwDC2Z9q_321cBH128SKzKk6D29M&e=" target="_blank">http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>