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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Ah, the catch 22 of government legalize.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>(You gotta love us here in Washington!)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Yes, the law applies only to federal government information, not private sector. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>But be careful of the definition of “private sector.” Private schools are in that category along with corporations and other business entities, but usually state schools are not. They’re in a gray area right now unless their state has adopted the federal accessibility guidelines and trickled them down through the state hierarchy. Others have covered this concept in previous posts.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>But even the fully private “private sector” will eventually be covered by Sec. 508, probably within the next 5 years. DOJ is already floating its ANPRN “announcements of proposed rulemaking” for information on corporate websites. Accessible ICT will follow the same pattern that ABA (architectural barrier access) took; government buildings were the first to have wheelchair ramps, handicapped bathrooms, etc., but now the ABA applies to your local Wal-Mart and your college/university.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>As wonderful as the Access Board is, they are only the government office that writes the regulations. It’s DOJ that enforces the regs and thereby decides who is covered by them and to what extent the law applies. Our judicial system always fine-tunes our laws over time. The Access Board can’t say much about where to draw the line: that’s DOJ’s job.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Just trying to advise list members from my firm’s experience on the front line …<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The catch 22 (or loophole) is at #5 in the Access Board’s list at </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span><a href="https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/25-508-standards/720-questions-answers-about-section-508-of-the-rehabilitation-act-amendments-of-1998#5"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/25-508-standards/720-questions-answers-about-section-508-of-the-rehabilitation-act-amendments-of-1998#5</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>“</span>Section 508 requires that when Federal agencies develop, procure, maintain, or use electronic and information technology…”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>That’s the catch. As soon as your university/college gives the federal agency the research done under the federal grant, voila, it must now be accessible. That’s because the agency is “using” your research information. And it is, in a way, “procuring” the information from you via the grant.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Right now, some agencies are more strict about this than others and write accessibility requirements into the grant paperwork. Sometimes the agency springs it on the researcher at the last minute. <o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>My firm gets about 2-3 requests a month from entities that have received federal grants; they include researchers at universities, nonprofits providing social services, think tanks, and some corporate “advisors.” Submitted 2 proposals earlier today.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Each the same: the federal agency that gave the grant money required accessibility of the electronic deliverables (or the ICT).<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Signing off from this thread…you can tell that we’ve got a lot of work to do! <o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>--Bevi Chagnon<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#D9D9D9'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Bevi Chagnon </span></b></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>| </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span><a href="http://www.pubcom.com/"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>www.<b>PubCom</b>.com</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Technologists, Consultants, Trainers, Designers, and Developers<o:p></o:p></span></i></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>for publishing & communication<o:p></o:p></span></i></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>| Acrobat PDF | Print | EPUBS | Sec. 508 Accessibility |<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#D9D9D9'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0pt 0pt 0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Gaeir Dietrich [mailto:gdietrich@htctu.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 21, 2017 5:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> chagnon@pubcom.com; 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Athen] Section 508 Refresh - Now In Effect?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Unless something has changed, Section 508 does not follow the money as Section 504 does. We were told that very specifically when the Section 508 Standards first came out, and if you check the Access Board website, they also say that very clearly:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/25-508-standards/720-questions-answers-about-section-508-of-the-rehabilitation-act-amendments-of-1998#3">https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/25-508-standards/720-questions-answers-about-section-508-of-the-rehabilitation-act-amendments-of-1998#3</a>) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><a name="3)"><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:inherit;color:#1D4579;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0pt'>3) To whom does Section 508 apply?</span></b></a><span style='mso-bookmark:"3\)"'></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0pt;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Section 508 applies to Federal departments and agencies.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><a name="4)"><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:inherit;color:#1D4579;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0pt'>4) Does Section 508 apply to the private sector?</span></b></a><span style='mso-bookmark:"4\)"'></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0pt;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>No, it does not regulate the private sector and does not apply to recipients of Federal funds.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Gaeir (rhymes with "fire") Dietrich<br>HTCTU Director<br>408-996-6047</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0pt 0pt 0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chagnon | PubCom<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 21, 2017 2:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Section 508 Refresh - Now In Effect?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Remember, Sec. 508 covers all ICT created with a federal tax dollar. That includes ICT created by:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0pt' type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Federal government agencies themselves.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Their contractors, whether hired full-time or on a contract basis.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Recipients of federal research grants (which includes most universities and colleges).<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Recipients of federal service grants (which includes a lot of community nonprofits and colleges)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Institutions that receive any federal money (which includes most universities and colleges)<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Jennifer S wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>“</span><span style='color:black'>Does anybody have a list of the lawsuits that have happened under the old 508? I'd be interested to see it.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Being in Washington DC, we do a lot of work in the federal government sector and there have been hundreds of complaints and a few dozen lawsuits brought against agencies. In the federal area, generally a formal complaint is filed first, and the lawsuit follows if the deficiencies aren’t corrected. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>So the public isn’t likely to hear about the complaints: they don’t make it into the news. My firm has helped several government agencies and contractors retool their workflow and ICT products to rectify the problems with their ICT. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Public lawsuits where the DOJ is involved generally are citing a government agency, municipality, nonprofit, college/university, or corporation. Here’s a reputable list of lawsuits:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="http://www.karlgroves.com/2011/11/15/list-of-web-accessibility-related-litigation-and-settlements/">http://www.karlgroves.com/2011/11/15/list-of-web-accessibility-related-litigation-and-settlements/</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Just scan down the third column in the table to see the defendants.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>This list, however, covers only websites. With the new Sec. 508 refresh and its clarifying language that now specifies documents in addition to websites, we can expect a lot more legal action in the future.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Jennifer S. wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>“</span><span style='color:black'>I'm not saying 508 isn't important; I'm just not so sure it's going to result in a deluge of lawsuits beginning in 2018.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I’ve already heard from close sources about work being done to bring some major precedent-setting lawsuits after January 2018. And then there are the tort trolls in the legal profession.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I guess you could just wait and see what happens to your university/college!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>But really, I’d like everyone to have full access to everything they need, and having been in academia for several decades, I hate to see colleges/universities spend so much money on fighting lawsuits and fixing ICT problems after the fact. It’s really expensive! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Isn’t it more cost-effective to prevent the lawsuits? It’s so much cheaper to get everyone trained in how to make accessible ICT than it is to fix the problems down the road after paying off the lawyers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>--Bevi Chagnon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#D9D9D9'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Bevi Chagnon </span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>| </span><a href="http://www.pubcom.com/"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>www.<b>PubCom</b>.com</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Technologists, Consultants, Trainers, Designers, and Developers<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>for publishing & communication<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>| Acrobat PDF | Print | EPUBS | Sec. 508 Accessibility |<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#D9D9D9'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0pt 0pt 0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:steve.noble@louisville.edu">steve.noble@louisville.edu</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Section 508 Refresh - Now In Effect?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>I would suspect the link to 508-related lawsuits in a post-secondary setting would be either through:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>(1) Suits brought under state law (only a few states, like Kentucky, have these) which mandate compliance with Section 508 and give individuals the right to sue state-supported institutions for injunctive relief; or<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>(2) Breach-of-contract suits brought by institutions against vendors who certified their products as compliant with Section 508, when the product was later found to be non-compliant.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>A suit brought against a university by an individual with a disability concerning inaccessible technology would normally be constructed around the ADA and Section 504, although it would be expected that part of the evidence provided would be lack of compliance with "generally accepted" accessibility standards, such as WCAG and Section 508.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>--Steve Noble<br><a href="mailto:steve.noble@louisville.edu">steve.noble@louisville.edu</a><br>502-969-3088<br><a href="http://louisville.academia.edu/SteveNoble" target="_blank">http://louisville.academia.edu/SteveNoble</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='color:black'><hr size=3 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div id=divRpF648404><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> athen-list [athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu] on behalf of Jennifer Sutton [jsuttondc@gmail.com]<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:chagnon@pubcom.com">chagnon@pubcom.com</a>; Access Technology Higher Education Network<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Section 508 Refresh - Now In Effect?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span style='color:black'>Perhaps some of you who know 508 (both new and old) better than I do can clarify this for me. But I'm a little concerned at the mention of "lawsuits" below, especially since there's already plenty of fear, uncertainty, and doubt in the higher ed. space, due to lawsuits . . .<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'>Are there really likely to be 508-related lawsuits? As I understood things, it would take a *long* time for anything 508-related to turn into a lawsuit. Mostly, they're complaints that people with disabilities must file, and then, the Federal agency (or other institution, if it falls under 508) must take action, etc. In other words, I don't think 508 functions like filing something against a company or institution that turns into a DoJ agreement (if the organization doesn't take satisfactory action, of course).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'>I hope this is clear, and that someone else can clarify further. I'm not saying 508 isn't important; I'm just not so sure it's going to result in a deluge of lawsuits beginning in 2018.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'>Does anybody have a list of the lawsuits that have happened under the old 508? I'd be interested to see it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'>Jennifer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On 3/21/2017 9:31 AM, Chagnon | PubCom wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Yes, Sec. 508 goes into effect today, March 21.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>It becomes enforceable on January 18, 2018.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Translation: All ICT (information communication technology) published from January 18 and forward must be compliant. The lawsuits will begin on January 18, 2018. You have 9 months to get your act together. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>See: </span><span style='color:black'><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.federalregister.gov_documents_2017_03_02_2017-2D04059_information-2Dand-2Dcommunication-2Dtechnology-2Dict-2Dstandards-2Dand-2Dguidelines&d=AwMDaQ&c=SgMrq23dbjbGX6e0ZsSHgEZX6A4IAf1SO3AJ2bNrHlk&r=4WMck1ZVLo4tV0IVllcBNKXCSGU6lUERtx_4HD4DqmE&m=e9GPfqS2Zsu_QJYY04S9snLxbUSmbvQLtAfEdSpdTpk&s=YIu1Q4jJX8fSzT3gDVpnytVRJDPTGj_oD1qiULIAkj0&e=" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/03/02/2017-04059/information-and-communication-technology-ict-standards-and-guidelines</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Quoted from the Federal Register:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>“DATES:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>The effective date of the final rule published on January 18, 2017 at 82 FR 5790 is delayed to March 21, 2017. However, compliance with the section 508-based standards is not required until January 18, 2018, which is one year after the final rule's original publication date. Compliance with the section 255-based guidelines is not required until the guidelines are adopted by the Federal Communications Commission. The incorporation by reference of certain publications listed in the final rule published on January 18, 2017 at 82 FR 5790 is approved by the Director of the Federal Register as of March 21, 2017.”</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>If you are a US-based institution, then yes, Sec. 508 is the law you must follow.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>However, understand the difference between laws and standards. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>This law does not define the standards for accessibility for some ICT but does for others:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0pt' type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;margin-left:0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>For websites, digital media, and documents like Word and PDFs, the law “includes by reference” the international accessibility standards WCAG 2.0 and PDF/UA-1.</span> <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;margin-left:0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>For Sec. 255 technologies, especially telecom, cell phones, kiosks, and software, it defines the standards but they are currently delayed.</span> <o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>We recommend that our clients follow WCAG 2.0 for all website information.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Document-based ICT, including PDFs that are posted on websites, is more accessible if you follow PDF/UA (PDF Universal Accessibility) guidelines as the WCAG guidelines really don’t work for PDFs. PDF and HTML technologies are not the same. A recent blog explains the differences between these two technologies and standards: </span><span style='color:black'><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.pubcom.com_blog_2017-2D01-2D03_wcag-2Dpdf-2Dstandards.html&d=AwMDaQ&c=SgMrq23dbjbGX6e0ZsSHgEZX6A4IAf1SO3AJ2bNrHlk&r=4WMck1ZVLo4tV0IVllcBNKXCSGU6lUERtx_4HD4DqmE&m=e9GPfqS2Zsu_QJYY04S9snLxbUSmbvQLtAfEdSpdTpk&s=NPqurNazLb_fysGkqFrOQENUn4R6ERsFmybcQ6jzIo8&e=" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>http://www.pubcom.com/blog/2017-01-03/wcag-pdf-standards.html</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>--Bevi Chagnon</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0pt 0pt 0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu" target="_blank">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kressin, Lori L. (llk2t)<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> ATHEN <a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" target="_blank"><athen-list@u.washington.edu></a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Section 508 Refresh - Now In Effect?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Good morning all, <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Here we are on March 21, 2017. Does that mean that the refresh of Section 508 is now in effect? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I have not heard anything to contrary, but I certainly could have missed something.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>What is the general thought - is this the standard that you and your institution will now follow?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thanks for your input,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Lori<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;color:#5E5E5E'>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span style='font-size:8.5pt;color:black'><br><b>Lori Kressin</b><br></span><span style='font-size:8.5pt;color:#5E5E5E'>Coordinator of Academic Accessibility</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;color:#5E5E5E'>Office of the Executive VP and Provost • Univ. of Virginia</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;color:#5E5E5E'>102 Cresap Rd • POB 400199 • Charlottesville, VA • 22903</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;color:#5E5E5E'>[434] 982-5784</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></body></html>