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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Feel free to look at our accessibility website, and see what our timeline and progress is after the DOJ can knocking on our door about our inaccessibility. I believe it is incredibly
important to be proactive, and to make sure that ANYTHING that is being put up now and in the future, is accessible. This is because remediation is fire-fighting (and expensive in both dollars and time), and being proactive is preventive (and cheaper in both
dollars and time). You should always opt for being preventive when possible. Waiting until a student asks for accommodations is not really providing equal access and honestly, that attitude is really outdated and needs to find its way out of our processes
on college campuses. We should be providing accessible materials up front, before anyone needs them and negating the need for a student to ask for them. It is cost-effective, puts you on good moral and legal ground, and simply, is just the right thing to
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Susan Kelmer<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Alternate Format Production Program Manager<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Disability Services<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">University of Colorado Boulder<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joseph Sherman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 22, 2017 10:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Blackboard Ally and captioning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Can you point to any case or DOJ complaint where documents or content in an closed course were required to be accessible prior to a request by an enrolled student? What is currently required is timely and equally effective access.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Looking at the recent cases (note am not a practicing lawyer, and am describing the current situation as I understand it, not what should be the case):<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Berkeley was required to caption their open MOOCs because they were publicly available. Same with Harvard and MIT through EdX. Berkeley decided (unfortunately) to remove their MOOCs from public view to stop the lawsuit. If you look at any
of the College accessibility resolutions, like Miami University, it requires WCAG AA for all public web sites and documents. It requires accessibility for the LMS and any similar required tools. <a href="http://www.d.umn.edu/~lcarlson/atteam/lawsuits.html">http://www.d.umn.edu/~lcarlson/atteam/lawsuits.html</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">However, for course content, students must register with Disability Services and receive Timely equally effective communication of curricular materials. As far as I know, no one has yet been required to make all course materials accessible
from the outset for enrollment limited courses.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Joseph Sherman<br>
Accessibility Specialist<br>
CUNY Computing & Information Services<br>
395 Hudson St 6FL, 6-236<br>
<b>646-664-2167| <a href="mailto:Joseph.Sherman@cuny.edu"><span style="color:blue">Joseph.Sherman@cuny.edu</span></a></b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Kelmer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 22, 2017 12:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Blackboard Ally and captioning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I disagree, Joseph. At the very least, there should be a mandate in place that says all materials need to be accessible moving forward. Backward remediation of older materials
can be done upon demand or on a well-thought-out schedule, but anything that is put up currently or in the future should be accessible before it is put up.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">You are begging for the DOJ to come in and ding you, and they will not accept your excuse of the time and money involved to remediate. And they certainly won’t accept that you
haven’t been requiring that current and upcoming materials be accessible before they are released.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Susan Kelmer<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Alternate Format Production Program Manager<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Disability Services<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">University of Colorado Boulder<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">303-735-4836<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joseph Sherman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 22, 2017 9:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Blackboard Ally and captioning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Looking for thoughts: Given the current understanding that course content that is not public doesn’t need to be accessible until an accommodation is requested, how are folks justifying large outlays of cash for things like universal captioning
and Blackboard Ally? It’s got to be cheaper to rush caption and fix for accommodations than slow caption and fix everything when we have thousands of courses.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ideally, I’d want and love for all content to be captioned and completely accessible from the start. But I can’t propose spending money we don’t have without a really good reason.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Joseph<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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