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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jess Thompson, Zach Lattin, and Nicolaas Matthijs gave a presentation at Ac= cessing Higher Ground about this topic. Ally: Accessibility training, and r= emediation, and tracking. Oh my!<http://accessinghigherground.org/ally-acce= ssibility-training-and-remediation-and-tracking-oh-my/> Powerpoint is at th= e bottom of the page in the link. You asked specifically about web accessibility. Ally does identify some web= accessibility issues like headings or missing alt text. But it is always w= ithin the context of a learning management system. Ally will not address pu= blic facing websites. There are other automated tools that focus on non-lea= rning management content that Terrill Thompson described in his blog post<h= ttp://terrillthompson.com/blog/730>. There are 2 cautions I yielded from others. First, no automated tool can ca= pture every error (definitely not fix every error), nor determine the usabi= lity of the site. You still need humans for that. Second, you will need to = train human regardless if you use a tool like Ally or not. Often with autom= ated tools, you are training people in (a) using the tool and (b) accessibi= lity principles. Ally does a nice job of introducing someone to basic acces= sibility best practices, but it is virtually impossible to think that one t= ool can explain all the nuances of an entire industry to an vast diverse au= dience (Ally touches thousands of faculty, IT professionals, disability pro= fessionals, administrators, learning technologists, etc. Everyone has a dif= ferent level of technical and accessibility and usability knowledge). I strongly recommend building your support structure for answering question= s that will come from faculty using Ally before a massive implantation. Krista KRISTA GREEAR Assistant Director Disability Resources for Students 011 Mary Gates Hall Box 352808 Seattle, WA 98195-2808 Direct: 206.221.4136 / Main: 206.543.8924 greeark@uw.edu<mailto:greeark@uw.edu>/ http://disability.uw.edu<http://disa= bility.uw.edu/> From: The EDUCAUSE IT Accessibility Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:ITAC= CESS@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Keener, Emily Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 7:09 AM To: ITACCESS@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [ITACCESS] Blackboard Ally feedback Good morning. Our university is considering adopting Blackboard Ally and I wonder if anyo= ne here is using it and has any feedback to share. We understand that Ally = won't solve all of our accessibility concerns, but how does it do in terms = helping faculty identify common web accessibility issues and helping the IT= and student support offices understand where we need to focus our training= efforts? Any words of warning or praise from this group? 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Oh my!</a> Pow= erpoint is at the bottom of the page in the link. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">You asked specifically about web acce= ssibility. Ally does identify some web accessibility issues like headings o= r missing alt text. But it is always within the context of a learning management system. Ally will not address public faci= ng websites. There are other automated tools that focus on non-learning man= agement content that <a href=3D"http://terrillthompson.com/blog/730">Terrill Thompson described = in his blog post</a>. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">There are 2 cautions I yielded from o= thers. <b>First</b>, no automated tool can capture every error (definitely not fix= every error), nor determine the usability of the site. You still need huma= ns for that. <b>Second</b>, you will need to train human regardless if you use a tool li= ke Ally or not. Often with automated tools, you are training people in <b>(a)</b> using the tool and <b>(b)</b> accessibility principles. Ally doe= s a nice job of introducing someone to basic accessibility best practices, = but it is virtually impossible to think that one tool can explain all the n= uances of an entire industry to an vast diverse audience (Ally touches thousands of faculty, IT profession= als, disability professionals, administrators, learning technologists, etc.= Everyone has a different level of technical and accessibility and usabilit= y knowledge). <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I strongly recommend building your su= pport structure for answering questions that will come from faculty using A= lly <b>before</b> a massive implantation. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Krista<o:p></o:p></span></p> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot= ;Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">KRISTA GREEAR</span></b><span styl= e=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F4= 97D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Assistant Director</span><span style= =3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Disability Resources for Students </span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans= -serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">011 Mary Gates Hall</span><span style= =3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></= span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Box 352808 <br> Seattle, WA 98195-2808<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Direct: 206.221.4136 / Main: 206.543.= 8924<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a href=3D"mailto:greeark@uw.edu">gre= eark@uw.edu</a>/ <a href=3D"http://disability.uw.edu/">http://disability.uw.edu</a></span><u= ><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif= ;color:blue"> </span></u><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",= sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif;color:#000099"><img border=3D"0" width=3D"200" heigh= t=3D"16" style=3D"width:2.0833in;height:.1666in" id=3D"Picture_x0020_1" src= =3D"cid:image001.gif@01D36A7F.2E4D3900" alt=3D"cid:image001.gif@01D33387.74= 2D8C60"></span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri&qu= ot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in = 0in 0in"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot= ;Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;= font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> The EDUCAUSE IT Accessibility = Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:ITACCESS@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Keener, Emily<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 1, 2017 7:09 AM<br> <b>To:</b> ITACCESS@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<br> <b>Subject:</b> [ITACCESS] Blackboard Ally feedback<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <div id=3D"divtagdefaultwrapper"> <p><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">G= ood morning.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><= o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">O= ur university is considering adopting Blackboard Ally and I wonde= r if anyone here is using it and has any feedback to share. We underst= and that Ally won't solve all of our accessibility concerns, but how does it do in terms helping faculty identify common web acces= sibility issues and helping the IT and student support offices underst= and where we need to focus our training efforts? Any words of warning or pr= aise from this group? Thanks so much for any insight you can give!<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><= o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">-= Emily<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><= o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div id=3D"Signature"> <div id=3D"divtagdefaultwrapper"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-famil= y:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">-----------------------------= ---------------------------------------------<br> <strong><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Emily Ke= ener</span></strong><br> <strong><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Instruct= ional Designer</span></strong><br> <a href=3D"http://www.siue.edu/its/idlt/index.shtml" id=3D"LPNoLP">Instruct= ional Design & Learning Technologies</a><br> Information Technology Services<br> Southern Illinois University Edwardsville<br> Phone: 618-650-5776<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri&quot= ;,sans-serif;color:black">-------------------------------------------------= -------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">********** Participation and subscription informatio= n for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at <a href=3D"http://www.educause.edu/discuss" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ed= ucause.edu/discuss</a>. <o:p></o:p></p> </div> ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Con= stituent Group discussion list can be found at <a href=3D"http://www.educause.edu/discuss" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ed= ucause.edu/discuss</a>. <p></p> </body> </html> --_000_CY4PR08MB3573ECE3873C030F9D7C2787CF390CY4PR08MB3573namp_-- --_004_CY4PR08MB3573ECE3873C030F9D7C2787CF390CY4PR08MB3573namp_ X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: 1;CY4PR08MB3573;27:UdWtsHPxHq0xRV+f+iHW2Yh+AppFiGS8GeEUsrDTjmCvP30pwLKM+UHzCq89mdqIqEHcae18ZXsas6htI0GXAvlx1T9VtwJ6J5EAtF+iVeBxs23b++Ihkz3Wsx4SFL9C X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info: LXjChfuu+uKvzvtyT0ZQfsE5LZN/Iiraej9TwKXMhPX2ZbD5TJoiA6KBcl6WMbq1ZO01W4hLgrOKIaF/yx4GHQhlbM1VM5uy4yuy2yUaOWA= Content-Type: image/gif; name="image001.gif" Content-Description: image001.gif Content-Disposition: inline; filename="image001.gif"; size=1303; creation-date="Fri, 01 Dec 2017 16:48:22 GMT"; modification-date="Fri, 01 Dec 2017 16:48:22 GMT" Content-ID: <image001.gif@01D36A7F.2E4D3900> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 R0lGODlhyAAQANUAAP////Lx9vXw9/Dw8OTk5OLi4uPh4tnW4dvV39nV49bW1tDF1sbGxsrGx8S4 zMG6yr66ycG4ybq6ury4ubi4uLSrwLWrw6ysrKqdt6edtZycnKGOrp2OrZGRkZSQkZKOj46OjpKB oY+BpZCBoIKCgoN0lYVzmXNzc3VlinpjkXlki2ZmZmpYgm1VhVpYWVhXVVpWV19Jd11KeF9IfEpK SlU6bTs7Oz87PEMvZEcvY0crZTEtLjEtLDohWj8gXCEhISH5BAAHAP8ALAAAAADIABAAAAb/QE5v SBwCAKah6tgq9jjHqHRKrVqv2Kx2y+16v2Cq0GkE1Ia6I8sJDbvf8Lh8/t4UffgegFA8AJpFbXSD hIWGh1MjRDhRFUUZRwFDIoiVlpeYWBFFCUcqRSlHEEMOVAofHwUAFx8Mqx8KRxqwAA0gGgCnHwOv CgOowEcdwxq8RwMaIBe8BKgDBSAgwB8AqK4NHRdbCh2xUsOuFyATAAUduLJTFLexv6mvFADuqhQf DbKtUawf2gAM0/aOdYBBgkCUaLzMdTgi4NERHT6IpAEwAk+AKjRWHJlwg5eCHzQ2hpR3gxwAGBpX wThC4kSDBiNJ0LiwYocqAC5WfLB5hAaJ/1o0YJ6YsGPVj1gKeHjDImEFCAlTNPzgxeDHPQA2rhr4 YRIA0Qs00Mk88tHYWHk/bPDiyGsADRoSpB651cDqLHkZG5zgcVMqNQArfh6JQWRJAjIGz8ywAuNv g5VHfuwAUQvyyasXigI40Q/VsSMfIO/4axWAgSguqA3g1XjPERgnNv/NYqOrlAE/oEr4Qa3AjShS Yx9x8fMmABCWf0QZGOUHj5+PQfMwFk9e5M8abKAWXvdotdkV8aTBQKYCnx4hGDtOrmGHgQYuosDQ +sPVDmOeFdwMjRbdDRrGvDbbSQN+9EFHVSDTzwRcBSgFbACQ8N8qwgHgk2bV7HAVaMlFwf9fZAwq EB0AOwhWhXLymdjeEY/BsJJnRzxQxAJr1KADESVYMMQC6rHYoYsjXhaFTwrEB9oPSF71AQ8v7ACD MQrsoKF8A7YmxQk/9DOFAjdkdkEBJ+zQgYPA/dblDwWsUJ0BNmwFlTww8OYhknR62OEKQUFWWi4f oHNdFKNFUZePW80ymyREjGECCkTUkIQePVbWnGk/kGDZfGWS4Gd++wXFg5Zw7ukCZVROMWgVXRJ4 nGVUFJBlSDtkBtwKDdxQIQBSCfYhAChWYySv5eywgp5vWmhbrxbOtpuPGZIwIGFOVEAeETn00MIV VgaJ4gc/XLrhRzYYBNqA1byo3RQ0/AX/w0KlSnHqlijOFKGJGP2AS5gV3uAiDTxMcSCHkwL8p1SQ 0VAhpgEfsUJKEY40og1yRiECGQIgQIYgVJwAIK4M90rDpa5EMaGHf/XD3AA8oFOMhehYKaCpyEZR 1QBRsgYqFST8YBAFuZH1Wzlc5aKNByN50KHAwPb0Aov19RTyn0y3EyuztUQcoxMyHFFtEQhcMYAN NrhggzcXZEkWZFHeqmkUbtngIoo1xbKTLz/850Jb/xkzQN5X/lDdFDYs7M0NS1WhwEi4GbOCWrmA NACWLiiFF+Nla+MWgpWT9WtmMNCww1KZAyesDRWuwIO4Jww4gBMjeFJEDlq8lMmWhccxNMCGexdy eyEMPI1FAQ0Yt4UMRZQCQAagzK68FgqwsvzzW0TAwfSCELAB9TxCr32K23cPQBAAOw== --_004_CY4PR08MB3573ECE3873C030F9D7C2787CF390CY4PR08MB3573namp_-- ]