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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">As far as I can remember, the PDF pages are identical to the printed version of the book. If I’ve come across one that didn’t match, I can’t recall it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Robert Lee Beach<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Assistive Technology Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Kansas City Kansas Community College<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Kansas City, KS 66112<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Phone: 913-288-7671<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Spangler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 3, 2018 2:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Pagination issues in Alt Format<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello, I've never gotten any complaints about this but I do inform the students that the pagination may not always match. If I request a PDF version of an alternative text from the publisher, either through ATN or the publisher directly,
do the pages usually match up with the text?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Susan Kelmer <<a href="mailto:Susan.Kelmer@colorado.edu" target="_blank">Susan.Kelmer@colorado.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Have you asked the publisher why the EPUB files do not have correct pagination? They should. Students
may get assignments that say “read pages 22 through 78” but if the page numbers in the EPUB aren’t correct, then they aren’t reading the appropriate material. As a student, this would be a major frustration.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Also, no, it is not unusual for a student to be using BOTH inputs for reading. Many of my students
are letting the computer read out loud while their eyes are on the books.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Alternate Format Production Program Manager</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">University of Colorado Boulder</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> athen-list [mailto:<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Corazon Napolis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 03, 2018 11:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Pagination issues in Alt Format</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">We have been making much better use of EPUB files for students requesting alt format of textbooks. For students that prefer to use Kurzweil
3000, we've loaded EPUB files and saved to their Universal Library. Some students have complained that the EUPB pagination does not match the print book. I've communicated that content is the same while pagination may differ and that the bookmark/search features
can assist with navigation. The only other alternative to having pagination match exactly would be to scan in the physical textbook which we prefer not to do if accessible versions exist.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Disability Services Technical Support Specialist<br>
<a href="mailto:rspangler1@udayton.edu" target="_blank">rspangler1@udayton.edu</a><br>
Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023<br>
Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC)<br>
University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 <br>
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