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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Cassandra Tex [<a href="mailto:clt3@humboldt.edu">mailto:clt3@humboldt.edu</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 23, 2018 3:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Athen] Converting Math Books</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Has anybody used the (newish) Texthelp product, EquatIO? I participated in a webinar last week, and it looks promising. It’s free for educators, and works with Windows, Mac, and Google Docs and Sheets, and the resulting documents are readable by Read&Write. As best as I can tell, when you put an equation into a document, the math goes in as an image with the alt text of the image being how one would speak the math.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">With EquatIO, you can enter the math in several different ways. For more information: <a href="https://www.texthelp.com/en-us/products/equatio/">https://www.texthelp.com/en-us/products/equatio/</a></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I’m still trying to wrap my head around a workflow. Just wondering if this will make math easier for us in the future? </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">By the way, I’m having trouble with EquatIO for Windows…the technical support from Texthelp told me my computer didn’t meet the specs that EquatIO expects to have (which I found odd since I thought I had a pretty high-end machine), but EquatIO seems to be working well in Google Docs.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Cassandra Tex</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Assistive Technology Specialist</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Humboldt State University</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> athen-list [<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu">mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Noble,Stephen L.<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 23, 2018 1:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Converting Math Books</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper"><p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Yes...but it isn't so easy. To get Read&Write to read math expressions in a textbook, you'll need to...</span></p><p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">1) Create the book so that the end product is HTML where all the math expressions are created as MathML (e.g., use MathType's "publish mathpage" command).</span></p><p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">2) Load the book in IE11 on a windows PC which has MathPlayer installed</span></p><p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">3) Use the "Read the web" setting in R&W, but be sure to turn off the setting to automatically read the next block of text</span></p><p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p><p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">You may find it simpler to create the textbook as a Word doc (no need to export to HTLM) where the math expressions are either MathType expressions or native Word OMML expressions (either is fine for consumption), and then have the student use the free Central Access Reader to read the Word doc on their PC. While it doesn't have all the nice features of R&W, it will probably be simpler in the long run. </span></p><p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p><p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Hope that helps,</span></p><p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p><p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">--Steve Noble<br></span><a href="mailto:steve.noble@louisville.edu"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">steve.noble@louisville.edu</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><br>502-969-3088<br></span><a href="https://exchange.louisville.edu/owa/redir.aspx?C=CdhMttRtdkSZAY1GqZCRu5k28cp7bNAIPUU6wKc1De8y-_GlninyxASwkrwRp4PfcJ9J6C2iqrk.&URL=http%3a%2f%2flouisville.academia.edu%2fSteveNoble" target="_blank" id="LPNoLP"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">http://louisville.academia.edu/SteveNoble</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><hr size="2" width="98%" align="center"></span></div><div id="divRplyFwdMsg"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> athen-list <</span><a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">athen-list-bounces@mailman13.u.washington.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">> on behalf of Robert Spangler <</span><a href="mailto:rspangler1@udayton.edu"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">rspangler1@udayton.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 23, 2018 4:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network<br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Converting Math Books</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Hello all:</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Currently we have a textbook that we are editing and splitting into chapters. It is an engineering book with many mathematical symbols throughout.</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Our student workers use Abbyy FineReader for editing the books. Generally, they will convert text by selecting it and choosing text, or selecting it and choosing picture. It is easier to choose picture in a paragraph that contains a lot of symbols; otherwise, they would have to go through and convert all of the symbols as pictures. This, however, results in the paragraph not being readable by TTS.</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">What do folks do for converting math and engineering books? Our students use Read and Write for reading their books. I think, since most of them have reading disabilities, they primarily use TTS for reading the text but actually look at the math symbols when working out the problems. Is what we are doing now sufficient? Is there actually a way to make Read and Write read out the mathematical symbols? I understand that if this book were being prepared for a blind person such as myself a lot more work would be involved. We have not had to do this yet, but when we do I'm sure I'll be depending a lot on the expertise of people on this list.</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks so much!</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Robert<br><br clear="all"></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><br>-- </span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Robert Spangler<br>Disability Services Technical Support Specialist<br></span><a href="mailto:rspangler1@udayton.edu" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">rspangler1@udayton.edu</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><br>Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023<br>Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC)<br>University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 <br>Phone: 937-229-2066</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Fax: 937-229-3270</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing)</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Web Site: </span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__go.udayton.edu_learning&d=DwMFaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=67olWPWhVEsI50vpRdydglG2RHA1T81UHrTuRDeUqW4&m=umwUFIcpmU2sWnC1dtbSCm7sefPAmO290-QeRUnV3rg&s=JnF0mxIT5ZLZQlIOvEPzfSqFJs_otuF4Nu5yXgd2Dno&e=" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">http://go.udayton.edu/learning</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>