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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">We’ll see if this will occur again with Macmillan. Hopefully with enough of us going back and forth with the publishers, they will distribute the format we request
 and not the one they want to give us.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jennifer McDowell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 20, 2018 12:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Macmillan publisher<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have also run into this problem with Macmillan, though I have actually had success in getting PDFs from Christine (though it took a little while and some follow up on my part). My argument/concern was that we have a Read&Write site license
 on our campus that a majority of students use for text-to-speech, and as of now, Read&Write does not read EPUBs. 
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<p class="MsoNormal">That worked (though I had to forward the email from TextHelp support proving what I said was true), and she sent the PDFs to me (through Dropbox I think). So it is possible, the PDFs do still exist, there are just some extra hoops to jump
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good luck, and happy Friday all!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 20, 2018, at 11:44 AM, Andrea L. Dietrich <<a href="mailto:adietrich@cornell.edu">adietrich@cornell.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I've encountered the same thing with some files. The lack of page numbers is the biggest problem, in my opinion. It's not too hard to convert an epub to a PDF, if that's what
 the student needs -- many would probably be fine using the epub directly, and there are actually some things I personally PREFER about epubs, but not having page numbers that correspond to the original text is a big deal breaker, IMO.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Does anyone know if there's a way to easily add page numbers to an epub file?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">BTW, for conversion, I use Calibre. I think I've seen others mention it on here, so you probably already know about it, but it's a great program for converting ebooks between
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">athen-list
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 Bryon<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, April 20, 2018 11:00 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[Athen] Macmillan publisher<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Yesterday, I received EPUB3 files from Macmillan instead of PDF files. The problem with the EPUB3 files, is each individual page of a chapter is a separate xhtml file and there
 are no page numbers. When I sent a request through Access Text for the PDF version of the file, I received the following response:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hi Christine, while the EPUB3 may more accessible by nature, there are no page numbers and the individual files are more difficult to navigate for students rather than individual
 chapter PDF files. I think you need to reconsider not producing accessible PDF files. I expect other Disability Services providers will most likely have the same opinion as I do.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">While I understand the reasoning behind Pearson and Macmillan wanting to use EPUB files, the format they are providing is making it more work for me, and there are no page
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