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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Voice Over on Mac still doesn’t have as many accessibility features as its Windows counterparts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It’s an Apple issue. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Forms is one area where its usefulness is limited.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I believe you can learn more about Voice Over’s capabilities (ha ha, really, should be lack-of-capabilities) on the <a href="http://www.WebAim.org">www.WebAim.org</a> forum where folks post their questions and findings on accessibility tech topics like this.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>An option would be an HTML-based web version of the form, but I’m not sure even that would overcomes VO’s shortcomings with forms. Maybe, but not sure.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>—Bevi<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>(SU alumna)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal>Bevi Chagnon, founder/CEO <b><span style='color:#AEAAAA'>|</span></b> <a href="mailto:Bevi@PubCom.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Bevi@PubCom.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>PubCom: <span style='color:#C00000'>Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing</span><o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal>consulting <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> training <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> development <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> design <span style='color:#D0CECE'>•</span> sec. 508 services<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Upcoming classes</b> at www.PubCom.com/classes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael T Grattan<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 21, 2018 9:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Fillable PDF Forms and VoiceOver<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We are using on the Adobe Acrobat on both Windows 10 and High Sierra.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:9.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:13.5pt;margin-left:0in'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#D44500'>Michael T Grattan</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#333333'><br>Access Technology Specialist <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:9.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:13.5pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Office of Disability Services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:9.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:13.5pt;margin-left:0in'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#333333'>T</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#333333'> 315.443.4498 <b>F</b> 315.443.1312<br><a href="mailto:mtgratta@syr.edu">mtgratta@syr.edu</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:9.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#333333'>804 University Ave. 3<sup>rd</sup> Floor, Syracuse NY, 13244<br>disabilityservices.syr.edu<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#D44500'>Syracuse University</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Karlen Communications<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 21, 2018 9:37 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Fillable PDF Forms and VoiceOver<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864'>What application are you using to view the PDF? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864'>Cheers, Karen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael T Grattan<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 21, 2018 9:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'athen-list@u.washington.edu' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Fillable PDF Forms and VoiceOver<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Hello All,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>We have been creating a number of Fillable PDF forms here at the university. The forms are 100% accessible on the PC side using JAWS for Windows 2018, NVDA, and ZoomText Fusion 2018. When I try working with the same PDF forms using a MacBook with the High Sierra operating system and VoiceOver, I am not able to access any radio buttons or signature fields. All other edit fields and checkboxes are accessible.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>The forms were created using Adobe Acrobat Pro DC version 2018.001.2040. An accessibility check was ran on each form as well as proper labels and annotations for tags.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>I would be very grateful for any help in learning how to fix and avoid this issue in the future. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Thank you for all your help.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Michael<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:9.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:13.5pt;margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#D44500'>Michael T Grattan</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#333333'><br>Access Technology Specialist <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:9.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:13.5pt;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Office of Disability Services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:9.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:13.5pt;margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#333333'>T</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#333333'> 315.443.4498 <b>F</b> 315.443.1312<br><a href="mailto:mtgratta@syr.edu">mtgratta@syr.edu</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:9.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:9.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#333333'>804 University Ave. 3<sup>rd</sup> Floor, Syracuse NY, 13244<br>disabilityservices.syr.edu<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#D44500'>Syracuse University</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>