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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Agreeing with Robert. There are sites that no longer work at all with IE, visually or with a screen reader. My local paratransit service’s website is an example.
You just get a blank screen when you access it with IE, and I mean visually blank!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">So far I haven’t found anything that works better with Edge, though Microsoft keeps trying.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I think the reason such a matrix does not exist is how both browsers and screen readers are in constantly-changing active development.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">So much that was once true about web access is no longer so. For example, I got a worried note from a dean of distance education at our sister college. She had
reviewed some instructor courseware and he had OMG TABLES! Tables, she knew were not accessible, based on a web accessibility seminar she’d attended 20 years ago when she was an instructor and not a dean and where they used Lynx to demonstrate accessibility.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I assured her that this instructor’s tables were fine.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Spangler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 19, 2018 7:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Screen Reader/Browser Combination<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm no longer a student, but at one time I was - a blind student! At that time I was using Firefox with NVDA but nowadays I am using Chrome, since it has improved to a usable level. I would never suggest Internet Explorer as most development
work now is put towards Firefox/Chrome and improving their access with screen readers. Basically, you should be OK with JAWS/NVDA with Firefox and Chrome. I use Chrome as my main browser, with Firefox as my secondary in case something doesn't work well with
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chrome is much snappier in performance than Firefox, even since the Quantum update. This has been my experience, at least.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Castiglione, Deb A <<a href="mailto:deb.castiglione@cengage.com" target="_blank">deb.castiglione@cengage.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I’ve asked previously about a screen reader/browser combination matrix, which does not appear to exist. It has been suggested that testing be performed
on the current and prior version of JAWS and <span style="color:black;background:white">
Internet Explorer, NVDA and Firefox, and VoiceOver on iOS. I’m also familiar with the WebAIM survey and results.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black;background:white">I was curious, however, what the most popular combination is for students in higher education. And, are HE students using
Chrome? Any input you can provide is greatly appreciated.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black;background:white">Thanks.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black;background:white">Deb</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">What is “essential for some” is almost always “good for all” (Meyer, Rose, and Gordon, 2014).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Deb Castiglione, EdD, ATP</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Director, Universal Design & Accessible Technologies</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Learning Center of Excellence</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Cengage</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">5191 Natorp Boulevard, Mason, OH 45040</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">513-229-1654 / 513-309-6262</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="mailto:deb.castiglione@cengage.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">deb.castiglione@cengage.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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