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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Peter B wrote: “ </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>But if a video has burned-in captions, there wouldn’t be a way for a screen reader user to detect those.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> “<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>That’s correct. Burned in captions are like photos with text in them. A T can’t determine which pixels create text letters and which create the background graphic. Always best to keep text live, not “burned in” graphics or videos or any other form of graphical communication.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Machines like screen readers can only access and process live text.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Bevi Chagnon, founder/CEO <b><span style='color:#AEAAAA'>|</span></b> <a href="mailto:Bevi@PubCom.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Bevi@PubCom.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>PubCom: <span style='color:#C00000'>Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing</span><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>consulting </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#D0CECE'>•</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> training </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#D0CECE'>•</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> development </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#D0CECE'>•</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> design </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#D0CECE'>•</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> sec. 508 services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Upcoming classes</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> at <a href="http://www.pubcom.com/classes"><span style='color:#0563C1'>www.PubCom.com/<b>classes</b></span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#D0CECE'>— — —<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="https://mailchi.mp/ff5bd323ea45/newsletter-accessibility-fonts-design-upcoming-classes-2901237"><b><span style='color:#0563C1'>Latest</span></b><span style='color:#0563C1'> blog-newsletter</span></a> – Accessibility Tips at <a href="http://www.PubCom.com/blog"><span style='color:#0563C1'>www.PubCom.com/blog</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bossley, Peter A.<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 2, 2018 5:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Checking for Captions<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Many video players do have accessible caption toggles and some make the text accessible to screen readers. But if a video has burned-in captions, there wouldn’t be a way for a screen reader user to detect those.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Spangler<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 1, 2018 6:41 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Checking for Captions<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hello, is it possible for a blind person to check if there are captions in a video? Everything I know tells me not, but I want to ask anyway in case there is some way that I am unaware of. The captions are displayed in the actual video content, which is not readable by a screen reader. I know on YouTube, I might be able to tell by whether the captions button is present or not, but I'm not sure if that button is always there or just when captions are available. Even then, I don't think I would be able to evaluate the captions anyway.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Robert<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Robert Spangler<br>Disability Services Technical Support Specialist<br><a href="mailto:rspangler1@udayton.edu" target="_blank">rspangler1@udayton.edu</a><br>Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023<br>Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC)<br>University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 <br>Phone: 937-229-2066<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Fax: 937-229-3270<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Web Site: <a href="http://go.udayton.edu/learning" target="_blank">http://go.udayton.edu/learning</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>