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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">A use case for burned-in (or “open captions”) is for videos that are created to post on social media sites that have no support for closed captions. (Twitter, for instance.) It should be
consider a work-around rather than a desirable solution. If you do need to use open captions, try to position them on the screen so you leave room for closed captions or subtitles, e.g. for other languages, at the bottom without overlap.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bossley, Peter A.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 04, 2018 10:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Checking for Captions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I should have probably clarified that we discourage burned in captions for all the good reasons others have put forward here, but we do still occasionally see
them; and if I had to choose between no captions or burned in ones, I’ll take the burned in ones.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Director, Digital Accessibility Center<br>
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950 Lincoln Tower, 1800 Cannon Dr, Columbus, OH 43210<br>
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<a href="mailto:bossley.5@osu.edu"><span style="background:white">bossley.5@osu.edu</span></a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Schipul, Dan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 2, 2018 6:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Checking for Captions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">"Burned in" text can obstruct closed captions if you ever add them in, so they become hard to see, defeating the purpose of both.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
on behalf of <a href="mailto:chagnon@pubcom.com">chagnon@pubcom.com</a> <<a href="mailto:chagnon@pubcom.com">chagnon@pubcom.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 2, 2018 6:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Checking for Captions</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">Peter B wrote: “
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">But if a video has burned-in captions, there wouldn’t be a way for a screen reader user to detect those.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">That’s correct. Burned in captions are like photos with text in them. A T can’t determine which pixels create text letters and which create the background graphic.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bossley, Peter A.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 2, 2018 5:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Checking for Captions</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Many video players do have accessible caption toggles and some make the text accessible to screen readers. But if a video has burned-in captions, there wouldn’t
be a way for a screen reader user to detect those.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Spangler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 1, 2018 6:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Checking for Captions</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">Hello, is it possible for a blind person to check if there are captions in a video? Everything I know tells me not, but I want to ask anyway in case there is some way that I am unaware of. The captions are
displayed in the actual video content, which is not readable by a screen reader. I know on YouTube, I might be able to tell by whether the captions button is present or not, but I'm not sure if that button is always there or just when captions are available.
Even then, I don't think I would be able to evaluate the captions anyway.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">Robert Spangler<br>
Disability Services Technical Support Specialist<br>
<a href="mailto:rspangler1@udayton.edu" target="_blank">rspangler1@udayton.edu</a><br>
Office of Learning Resources (OLR) - RL 023<br>
Ryan C. Harris Learning & Teaching Center (LTC)<br>
University of Dayton | 300 College Park | Dayton, Ohio 45469-1302 <br>
Phone: 937-229-2066<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">Ohio Relay: 711 (available for individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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