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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I respectfully disagree. I have used the service for almost two years now. The agents receive training on how to give directions, training that was developed by an O&M instructor. I was able to navigate the Dallas/Fort Worth airport with the help of Aira instead of being shoved into a wheel chair. When I moved into a new place agents helped me label my stove and figure out how to operate my microwave and thermostat. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Mary<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lucy Greco<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 7, 2018 6:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Opinion: is Aira killing or improving independence<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i do not use the service i am actualy vary aposed to it there take on privisy and confidentiality is offal. when i did try and use it they sucked me in by saying sure we can help you do things on your computer like edit a video well needliss to say they could not i was better able to learn what i needed with out them and a reel person sitting next to me and helping me lable controles. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> when i used the service to find my way when ubers let me off in the rong place they sent me in the wrong direction and made me more lost. the service is offal and i think to many blind people are willing to show there agents bank account numbers and medacal information and so on i dislike the service and there hard push to get it payed for by every one and that a low income populiss is targeted with a service that is pour quolaty and over rated because people thinks it might make then more indapendint when it just makes you look like a google glass ..... with cords hanging from your face and wires every wair <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Lucia Greco<br>Web Accessibility Evangelist <br>IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration<br>University of California, Berkeley<br>(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco<br><a href="http://webaccess.berkeley.edu" target="_blank">http://webaccess.berkeley.edu</a><br>Follow me on twitter @accessaces<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 2:49 PM Deborah Armstrong <<a href="mailto:armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu">armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I’ve noticed that many colleges are now supplementing help for blind students using Aira. Aira is a service that enables one to use either their phone’s camera or special glasses to show a sighted agent what they are having difficulty with and the agent assists. The agent can help the user navigate, read signs, understand study materials such as charts and graphs, and do anything else that “requires” sight.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Aira is also popular with newly-blinded folk, because it’s an easy way to get instant help.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Their website is here<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="https://aira.io/" target="_blank">https://aira.io/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>And a an edited description of the new plans is here:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>“AIRA Killing Unlimited Plan, Raising Prices for Others, Adding $29 Intro Plan”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Reported by Blind Bargains<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <a href="https://www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=19611" target="_blank">https://www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=19611</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Copying from that page’s pricing info:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>New Plans<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>• Intro: 30 minutes for $29 a month. 97 cents per minute.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>• Standard: 120 minutes for $99 a month. 83 cents per minute.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>• Advanced: 300 minutes for $199 a month. 66 cents per minute.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>• Premium (not advertised on website): 700 minutes for $329 a month. 47 cents per minute.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Former Legacy Plans<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>• Basic: 100 minutes for $89 a month. 89 cents per minute.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>• Plus: 200 minutes for $129 a month. 65 cents per minute.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>• Pro: 400 minutes for $199 a month. 50 cents per minute.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>• Unlimited: unlimited minutes for $329 a month. 47 cents per minute.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Other Notes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>• Additional minutes can be purchased for $50 for 50 minutes, or a dollar per minute, which is higher than the cost of minutes on any of the current plans.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>• All plans except Intro can be shared with up to 2 other users.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>• Those wishing to use the Horizon glasses also will need to pay an additional $25 a month for 24 months or $600 one-time. Horizon is also not available<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>on the Intro plan.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>• The plan for NFB members also remains, which is 140 minutes for $99 a month, so essentially 20 additional minutes.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>What bothers me about Aira is that it’s tempting to use it to simply save time, which works great if you already know how to do something on your own. If you need to make sure you put tuna in the sandwich and not cat food, or you need to understand the anatomy textbook to prepare for an exam, Aira can be a lifesaver. I have friends who know how to use their phone to identify packages, and they know how to ask for directions to navigate an unfamiliar area. But they use Aira because it’s more convenient than struggling. It’s nice to have an Aira agent tell you if your colors match or you really are at the right restaurant. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>However, what happens when using Aira becomes a substitute for learning to do things on your own? Nobody’s talking about this, but just as notetakers are often used when a student would do better with notetaking technologies like Sonocent, my concern is that Aira will become the easy but pricey fix. Technology does this too – the modern taxi driver seems unable to cope when his GPS goes down. So maybe I’m just a luddite. Still, when I FaceTime my girlfriend in Walmart to check the color of a garment before purchasing it, I’m glad I don’t need Aira to function.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>--Debee<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>athen-list mailing list<br><a href="mailto:athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a><br><a href="http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list" target="_blank">http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>