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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;color:#2F5496">Hi Karen,<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;color:#2F5496">Are you using the Power PDF Advanced or Power PDF Standard?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;color:#2F5496">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#2F5496">Anne Carpenter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#2F5496">Coordinator, Assistive Technology Services
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#2F5496">carpenta@evergreen.edu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Karlen Communications<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 11, 2019 12:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Update on PDF Remediation Tools<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864">Currently, both PowerPDF and Foxit are one time purchases instead of subscription. They still run on an upgrade program rather than a monthly fee.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864">Since the Canadian government is not going to be using Adobe Acrobat as of May…I think this was posted on this list or WebAIM a few months ago…I decided
to take a look at both products to see how they stacked up with Acrobat.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864">Cheers, Karen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>From:</b> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Comden<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 11, 2019 1:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Update on PDF Remediation Tools<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Thanks Karen,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I haven't looked at the Nuance PDF product for years. Thank you for the update. It would be great if we could find an alternative to Acrobat Pro for PDF remediation. Last I checked, the pricing was not much different
between the Nuance option and Acrobat, sadly. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I would be nervous about the Nuance product in terms of stability and accessibility over time based on my experience with how they release updates totheir speech recognition products. They have a tendency to make
significant UI changes with little thought to accessibility as well as basic user experience. Their user support also doesn't have a good reputation. But if it offers any competition to Adobe, it would be a good starting point to consider, in my opinion.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">-*- Dan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 6:03 AM Karlen Communications <<a href="mailto:info@karlencommunications.com">info@karlencommunications.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864">As some of you know, I've been trying out Nuance PowerPDF Advanced and Foxit Phantom for Business.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864">I had two documents that are forms which means a lot of underline and boxes to visually represent where you enter information.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864">When I used the Acrobat Pro DC (current release/update) ability to auto tag the documents, about 85% of the lines, boxes and bits of the background were tagged as <figures>
requiring Alt Text and only about 15% of the actual text was tagged. When I deleted the Tags, went to Nuance's PowerPDF and retagged the document, NONE of the background bits, lines or boxes were tagged. ONLY the text on the page was tagged. I had minimal
remediation to make the text of the forms accessible (mostly rearranging the question order and separating parts of a question to fit the form controls in).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864">This saved me hours of work I was facing in making most of the things in the Tags Tree Artifacts manually and trying to manually Tag the text in the forms. Nuance PowerPDF
does have a Forms Ribbon but I am on a deadline so will try it out once this project is finished.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864">Foxit is trying to get me to not give up on their product but I really can't face another 2-5 days of lost time trying to gain control of my computer, so we are still talking
about getting my money back. Their position is that everything I’ve experienced should not be happening with their software.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864">BTW, for those of you who are either trying or buying Nuance PowerPDF Advanced, their help docs are out of date. They now have a button in the Tags Panel to the left of the
Options button that will auto Tag a PDF document. I’ve added this to my notes for a tutorial…I spent about 15 minutes yesterday trying to remember where the button was. LOL</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F3864">Cheers, Karen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:danc@washington.edu" target="_blank">danc@uw.edu</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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