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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Michele.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">When I went to take a look, it basically wanted my credit card info. It is only free up to 1000 uses, from what I can tell. So we’d use it up on two chapters
of a calc book, which makes this unsustainable for most people, I think. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Susan Kelmer<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Disability Services<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">University of Colorado Boulder<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michele Bromley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 3, 2019 4:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Equatio price increase<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I haven't done a lot of testing with
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Mathpix OCR</a> yet, but coupled with MathType, their <a href="https://secure-web.cisco.com/1-sdlQS_B4PNw45G710XIZdX-G4Zj8dqaIr13XZK4w5wNaKz9NgXYVAsz3TLBDmdCsoolwEpKnQ2IcFIq6690r-H1NsEeGDc0Sw5Xyjs-_7oJ0rQrNiMt3eoAqSV-IkrUHEDKjrEVNZPZ86Z57zwEtCQ3EfFmKJlpZ5T27eGbCkUFJliI3ceKWSDNyBA71xo6vOGMtccul1X7B5eqk_ed6ToKSZ9BIiKdk_fPA1nmxtSG5Su6Q_85v2w3rYevxjjnjFFXTAJofeyvAlxBI_jPEglx0I7ZF7nrpq_ew0XPl6XBKnmNRfOcOmWGi1fVbytUZqpEyklAQEwSKGqmLIITTvZ5CiegDRe6EIsLLHkTJo9tPF3fAoum9bfXkzdSqtw---FoG9tnL3Us4JyigOBhYGS30O3GphSw3tcGCw_MQYTRp3NqWCrXc_8hBI2OkRDfkMYqFdSwM3bCTSTLsXunNxcHoU9WwbwHeiN2N1BQ0LU/https%3A%2F%2Fmathpix.com%2Fwin_app%2Fmathpix_snipping_tool_setup.exe">
Windows snipping tool</a> appears to be solid alternative to EquatIO for the alt. formats production side of things.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="http://www.pdx.edu/" target="_blank">Portland State University (PSU)</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><a href="http://www.pdx.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1155CC;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="165" height="35" style="width:1.7187in;height:.3645in" id="_x0000_i1025" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/lj1A5ZXvYbHV5IMKZjHJgTpMO6eYdmPuwao1NAaf7m9CCbbtiyc1LFKJt9Fwtx-LZ48zcev5cBsgHjr3zGNXxbnjayNMRZq4bsZeBUZ5mBVXtjGuOidT2uWDm8vL5u3uQyAYFqHN" alt="The Portland State University logo includes intertwined letters P, S, and U that represent the interconnectedness of the university to the city, region, and world."></span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:michele.bromley@pdx.edu" target="_blank">michele.bromley@pdx.edu</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Website:
<a href="http://www.pdx.edu/accessibility" target="_blank">www.pdx.edu/accessibility</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">“The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect.” ~ Tim Berners-Lee</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 10:09 AM Cassandra L Tex <<a href="mailto:cassandra.tex@humboldt.edu" target="_blank">cassandra.tex@humboldt.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">presented, we jumped on the EquatIO ship (we are also a Read&Write campus). Our subscription will renew in July, and I have not heard of a pricing change. Perhaps this pricing change is for new customers? I’m sorry to hear that they
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On Thursday, May 30, 2019, Wink Harner <<a href="mailto:foreigntype@gmail.com" target="_blank">foreigntype@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is discouraging when we are finally presented with Susan Kelmer identified as "a game changer" in alt-text conversion technology for math and the developer prices it out of reach, so much so that it becomes an unjustifiable expense.
What a shame TextHelp has deliberately changed their pricing structure on Equatio. You and I and many hundreds of others who are in alt-text production to make materials accessible for students with disabilities are intermediaries in the sales & marketing
pitch from TextHelp --their aim is large scale, open site licenses on campuses for their students...Not for us making things accessible for the students. Perhaps TH sees us as incidental in their sales plan? As hard as we in DSS work to forecast tech needs
for our departments and our students, how much of a challenge it is for us to plan our department budgets over years' (mine was prepared in 1-3-5 year cycles), to plan our staff time based on cost to produce accessible materials, staff time etc., our break
even point is now out of sight! I hope someone at TextHelp pays attention to this thread and they reconsider this pricing structure.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry to hear this news from you. Many of us in the production field were looking forward to using and promoting this app. I introduced it in this year's grad class curriculum at CUNY, but may consider shelving it with the "also ran" apps
--with a BIG disclaimer about the pricing. I try to provide students with alternatives such as free, low cost, or open source software available to the big ticket software to explore as part of the class. There are few alternatives to making math accessible
for BVI or those with reading disabilities who need bi-modal text & audio output. I won't be able to give anything to compare it to, so it may be take out of my curriculum. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 8:57 AM Leyna Bencomo <<a href="mailto:lbencomo@uccs.edu" target="_blank">lbencomo@uccs.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I am very disappointed in the TextHelp people right now. They have completely revamped their pricing for Equatio. They initially told me $1500 for 150 licenses per year. That
was the minimum. I was planning to get our Math college, Office of IT and Disability Services to pay for it. After hearing how we Alternate Media departments are planning to use the licenses, TextHelp has changed their minds now and decided they have to
treat it like Read & Write enterprise licensing. Since we have 12,000 students at UCCS and since we do subscribe to Read & Write they are now planning to charge us $3690 per year to subscribe. If we didn’t have R&W, they’d charge $4920 per year. We can’t
afford that just to remediate a couple of math books a year. I’m going to recommend we don’t purchase it. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We truly would only use 2 licenses in Alt Media and at this point 1 student license for a math student who can’t use his hands to write. I can’t justify the expense. Oh well,
so much for new technology. Hopefully, one of their competitors will come up with similar tech soon at a more reasonable price. For now, back to MathType for us.
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