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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I know this thread started out helping a deaf-blind student, but as I’m taking Spanish in the Fall, I’ve been researching more.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">K1000 can do automatic language detection but it’s only at the page or paragraph level. Works great when reading a document that has a bit of prose or poetry
in another language. It doesn’t work so great if you are reading a phrase or lesson book where two languages appear on one line.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">K1000 also can recognize with multiple languages, which is different than language detection. Detection is handled in the “reading” settings while recognition
settings let you check multiple languages for recognition purposes. But recognizing multiple languages with its built-in FineReader engine was disabled after K1000 V14.9. A licensing issue, perhaps? OmniPage – the real product as well as the engine built
in to K1000 and K3000 can be set to recognize multiple languages, and accuracy is improved when that is configured.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">In Word, and Duxbury (and thanks to great tutoring from Gaier) you can switch the proofing language so that screen readers and Read and Write will automatically
switch languages on the Word level. Look for tutorials on how to switch to a different proofing language; highlight text in the foreign language and make the change. It’s actually a faster process for a keyboard user than it is for a mouse user, but it’s still
tedious.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Balabolka also seems to notice the tags in Word files to change languages, but I couldn’t get TextAloud to do it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If you wish to read supposedly accessible but unremediated books with speech, GOOD LUCK! I downloaded several dozen books from my local libraries in epub and
PDF, both in German and Spanish. If the entire book is in the foreign language you can just switch your AT to read that language, no problem. But for lessons, none of the files, though otherwise mostly accessible, were tagged so that my AT could identify
changes from one language to the other. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Also, because automatic language identification seems to not work below the paragraph level, AT doesn’t help much when reading lessons.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The experience is far better with Braille, at least with Latin languages, because the tables are similar enough. Even if table switching doesn’t occur, you can
easily see how the words are spelled.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">So I hope your language learners do read visually or tactually; learning just using speech is far from simple!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah Armstrong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 18, 2019 1:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> llewis@paciellogroup.com; Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Foreign language for blind students<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Here’s a page from JAWS support you can use to test Nvda, Narrator and JAWS with speech and Braille.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.freedomscientific.com_Training_Surfs-2DUp_Languages.htm&d=DwMGaQ&c=WORo6LNFtQOb4SPVta8Jsg&r=K_2Yg4I05GGnHlSOevlp3QeE5-JEqtmoUnmP0YVj9ZM&m=wGWjD3_L2wqhtMwSEJCuQaZKEncOYkeiGV1d1M__BNg&s=U7dD9XLEq50Nh0QamuJv9qPdZDP6GvSACCaZ4swaFy4&e=">https://support.freedomscientific.com/Training/Surfs-Up/Languages.htm</a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">It explains how JAWS switches languages automatically if tags are correct. If JAWS or another screen reader auto-switches with the samples on this page but not
with *<b>YOUR</b>* samples there’s a problem with your samples.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">There also used to be a JAWS bug that kept JAWS from switching back to English because JAWS was expecting a tag to tell it to return to English when in fact the
web standards say that it’s enough to have a tag at the top of the document stating that English is the primary language.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I think they’ve fixed this bug, but if you have an older version you might want to watch out for it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Be aware there are also two kinds of foreign language Braille. Just as we have Grade 2, UEB and computer Braille, foreign languages have their own contracted
Braille. But, when one is learning the language, the standard is to transcribe the foreign language portion in Grade 1 uncontracted Braille and just include the accent signs.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">German contracted Braille for example is just as complex as our grade 2, and though I speak German I read the contractions with great difficulty. This is because
I only learned it for a year when I was nineteen so I’m terrible at it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">But reading German by setting my display to use the computer Braille table is easy for me because it is just the alphabet and the special accented letters.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">For the above explanations, I’m neither a Braille transcriber nor an HTML wiz, so I’ve simplified some of this explanation so it makes sense to us average folk!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Larry L. Lewis, Jr.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 18, 2019 10:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Foreign language for blind students<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">As a blind, Braille user who has also taken foreign languages, I would say that you are on the right track by providing accessible PDF’s with the appropriate language tags
present throughout the documentation. You’ll also want to make sure that the student is using the appropriate Braille tables with JAWS to accurately reflect these Language Changes. His Braille output will need to be set to computer Braille. You can pick a
primary Braille Table for the primary language being used, but can then switch to other preferred Braille tables for alternative languages. I’m fairly certain that when JAWS switches to the alternative Language, the alternative Braille table will also be in
use. Whereas this individual is deaf-blind, solid Braille Access will be imperative for him to be successful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pfau, Jillian<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 18, 2019 9:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Foreign language for blind students<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi ATHENites,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’m reaching out regarding any experience you may have with providing alternate format materials for foreign language courses. For Fall 19, we have a deaf/blind student registered for Italian. He uses braille
and JAWS and typically requests accessible .pdfs, but I’m wondering if this will be sufficient considering the particular challenges related to learning a foreign language.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Any advice would be greatly appreciated… and feel free to contact off-list at
<a href="mailto:jillian.pfau@montgomerycollege.edu">jillian.pfau@montgomerycollege.edu</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Jillian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F497D">Jillian Pfau<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F497D">Coordinator of Assistive Technology, college-wide<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F497D">Disability Support Services<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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College</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1F497D">Tel. 240-567-5224<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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